Valar Guild

May 3, 2009 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00?)
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Ar-Pharazon and Varda

Attending: (8)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Fladrifv, Eomer-(V)/IWF519, Eonwe Valar, Gil-galad-(V)/Xseanzee disco, pallandovalar, VardaValar1 (presiding)
    Luthien-(T): in the sim that we tried during the Tolkien section as the one who did the artwork for the sim, with computer help from Fladrif.

Meeting begins

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya Phar!
ArPharazonV: 2 more bosses down in Ulduar this week!
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
FladrifV has entered the room.
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya!
FladrifV: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: Heya
Xseanzee disco: heyheyhey
VardaValar1: Gil-galad! Been a while. :-)
Xseanzee disco: school...
VardaValar1: Aye :-)
Xseanzee disco: i'd rather be in the pits of angband
pallandovalar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Pallando!
VardaValar1: and hi Eonwe and Flad : )
VardaValar1: LotRO people are giving me suggestions of what to bring up and how to organize their part of the forum.

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: No new members.
VardaValar1: Do you folks have anything you'd like to bring up under Membership?
ArPharazonV: mah birthday in 3 days *nod*
IWF519 has entered the room.
IWF519: Aiya Valarim!
VardaValar1: Happy birthday, Phar, almost anyway. :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
IWF519: I am Eomer if you dont recall
VardaValar1: Aiya Eomer
VardaValar1: We're in the Membership section now, good timing.
VardaValar1: Did you have any membership news, personal news you'd like to share also?
IWF519: only that Hunt for Gollum came out
VardaValar1: That would be web or Tolkien news, but thanks.
IWF519: k
IWF519: zry
VardaValar1: If there is no further membership news?

VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: Eomer, please go ahead. Not all are familiar with that online movie. :-)
IWF519: it is a fan made movie about Aragorn's quest to find the creature formerly known as Smeagol
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: aiya all :-)
ArPharazonV: aiya
IWF519: it runs around 40-45 minutes long and is currently buffered in my web browser
IWF519: Aiya
IWF519: it looks to be quite special
ArPharazonV: all I get when I click that link is some file I can't play
VardaValar1: Is it still buffering maybe?
ArPharazonV: don't suppose there is an actual website?
ArPharazonV: nah, it's asking me to save a file or open a file
IWF519: i was getting that for a while as well
IWF519: try that is the actual movie
ArPharazonV: thanks, that works
IWF519: groovy
VardaValar1: On our own Tolkien Site, we have a new story:
VardaValar1: "Glorfindel of Gondolin" Short story by Jay of Lasgalen. "While cleaning the library of Imladris, Elrohir makes an interesting discovery." Elladan, Elrohir, Erestor, Glorfindel.
VardaValar1: Under Languages, we have a new translation of The Tale of Tinuviel into Sindarin by Luthien-T
VardaValar1: Under Art, we added a page for Luthien's YouTube videos, the ones she mentioned last time.
VardaValar1: Videos on
VardaValar1: Any further Web news? Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar: I've been working on stuff on the new server. Other than that, no.
VardaValar1: That would be quite a bit, and thanks!
VardaValar1: The domain name is still not pointing to the new server, so we are uploading to both servers to keep both current.
VardaValar1: Readers should have no problem.
VardaValar1: We've had a suggestion that we should be using the forum more for our News. But I think they may have just meant for gaming news.
VardaValar1: It's reasonable to ask for the scheduled runs to be posted there, and we should probably work that out and put them on there as soon as possible.
VardaValar1: We've also had a suggestion that the Forum could archive older threads, especially gaming threads.
VardaValar1: Do we have an archiving ability? Let's look into if we can do it or not.
VardaValar1: Eonwe, do you happen to know?
Eonwe Valar: Not off the top of my head, besides that I could lock older threads manually so they can't be posted to.
Eonwe Valar: I odn't think that's what they mean though.
Eonwe Valar: *don't
Eonwe Valar: What would be gained by "archiving" the threads that's lost by having them the way they are?
VardaValar1: Locking wasn't it, no. Just shove to one side out of sight.
VardaValar1: Easier to find the current events and news?
Eonwe Valar: Those should be at the top of the forum anyway due to being most recently posted, right below the stickies.
VardaValar1: What about deleting old, no longer needed questing threads after maybe 2 years?
Eonwe Valar: When I log in and I see stuff I haven't read yet, it has a little "new" icon next to the thread title.
VardaValar1: Aye, ok, so you're saying we can let the threads pile up since they are at the bottom. They don't take much space.
Eonwe Valar: I like having the old threads personally. I may want to reread them and say "oh yeah, I remember that run :}"
Eonwe Valar: I hope I'm not the only one, hehe.
ArPharazonV: always nice to have memories lying about :-)
VardaValar1: ok :-)
VardaValar1: I still feel bad about accidentally deleting some very cool threads, thinking I was moving them. gahh
VardaValar1: Also in Web news, Fladrif, could you tell about Valinor?
FladrifV: aye,
FladrifV: We are currently startingup the valinor server
FladrifV: Hopefully it is up and running during the meeting
FladrifV: the Idea is that we all by downloading a small client
FladrifV: can walk freely inside valinor
FladrifV: and later even update the envioriment to make it more our home
FladrifV: we plan to give the first live demonstration today lets see what happens
VardaValar1: It is still pretty basic, last I heard, but should have more details over time.
FladrifV: aye and the users can add detail
VardaValar1: Does it look like another hour maybe?
VardaValar1: O cool! :-)
FladrifV: something like that varda
VardaValar1: Guess Luthien's currently hard at work on it? :-)
FladrifV: aye we both actually
FladrifV: it has the option to fully change the way you look
VardaValar1: Thank you both! We'll let you get back to that.
VardaValar1: Any further web news?

VardaValar1: Gaming Report:
Gruntz, tabletops, LotRO, WoW Argent Dawn server, WoW Lothar server, WoW Uldaman Server, EVE Online, Chess
VardaValar1: What games have you folks played this last week not WoW or LotRO? :-)
ArPharazonV: I played a few levels of Gruntz
VardaValar1: Pippin and Maedhros played some pen and paper gaming.
ArPharazonV: fun puzzle game oriented around a few weird-looking creatures trying to find their way home by collecting pieces of warpstones
VardaValar1: Sauron and Gimli tabletop D&D. Pardon, Phar :-)
ArPharazonV: that's allright, just a brief summary :-)
ArPharazonV: go ahead
VardaValar1: Needed, thanks. I would have thought it was from the book about Orcs. ;-)
VardaValar1: Anyone else?
VardaValar1: Pallando?
VardaValar1: I think Pallando is afk. :-)
VardaValar1: Eomer, Pallando is the one to speak with about Eve Online if he shows back up.
VardaValar1: LotRO:
Xseanzee disco has left the room.
IWF519: I dont play EVE
IWF519: that was Forlong
VardaValar1: Pardon
IWF519: i beleive
VardaValar1: Last night we had a group running in Carn Dum.
VardaValar1: Various instance runs all during the week, and smaller groups and duos here and there.
VardaValar1: The Saturday and Sunday morning runs are starting to happen again, sometimes on Monday morning if a schedule went nutty.
IWF519 has left the room.
VardaValar1: Some are talking about doing special times for runs
VardaValar1: One suggestion was a wild run for mats for crafters on some night, just funness mainly.
VardaValar1: Quote: run amok gathering mats.
IWF519 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: One suggestion was a Saturday afternoon or evening Book questing night.
VardaValar1: On to WoW
VardaValar1: Arien, go ahead with Europe?
AriehnV: all right :-)
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AriehnV: On Friday i was visiting Argent Dawn for a couple of hours to gain level 63 for my hunter Failivrin
AriehnV: I needed a break from all the adrenalin and nerves flowing from some intriguing fight at Hellfire Fortifications on the Auchindoun server
AriehnV: :-) so i went hunting in peace and quiet , and promptly met Ar Pharazon and Menelvagor in valar channel
AriehnV: On the pvp side my non valar guild with Helm of the Valar guild we had a nice wee trip to Exodar .. doing what we wanted , causing a lot of chaos and panic amongst low level allies
AriehnV: we got into the seat of the Naaru before we thought it wise to retreat
AriehnV: losses were only our lower levels (under 60) and myself at the end ;-)
AriehnV: we gained a fair bit honor and reputation
AriehnV: end of report :-)
VardaValar1: Thank you, Arien. : )
VardaValar1: Pharazon, did you have anything to add?
ArPharazonV: Valar-wise? nope.... but I had some good fun last week, working on the various world events and finishing my Higher Learning achievement
ArPharazonV: and progressing further in Ulduar
ArPharazonV: so it was a good week for me anyway :-)
VardaValar1: Sounds fun. : )
VardaValar1: Moving on to WoW Americas: Lothar
VardaValar1: Eonwe, did you have a report?
Eonwe Valar: Not a very long one.
VardaValar1: Doesn't need to be long. : )
Eonwe Valar: I spent the week working on the Argent Tourney stuff as well as Noblegarden and Children's Week. Arwen and I did cross paths working on the Argent Tourney stuff though, so she grouped with myself and a friend of mine to do those.
Eonwe Valar: I've Seen Sauron, BIlbo, Fangorn, and Elwing on during the week as well as Arwen, and some Varda person at one point too :}
VardaValar1: heeh
Eonwe Valar: That's pretty much it for my report.
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe.
VardaValar1: The other folk you mentioned did group together as well.
VardaValar1: WoW Uldaman server has been very active. Go Horde!
VardaValar1: We added Death Knights to our mix and finally finished collecting enough money for our first bank page.
VardaValar1: We're way behind you other WoWers, but that made us feel good anyway. : )
VardaValar1: We also started implementing a new title, one Eonwe was considering.
VardaValar1: It's above Member but below Maia.
VardaValar1: Currently we're calling it Veteran til we have a more lore-appropriate name.
VardaValar1: End report.
ArPharazonV: hmmz.. lore-appropriate, eh
VardaValar1: As in going along with Meldo, Maia, Vala which are our other titles.
VardaValar1: Eonwe and I have been considering various possible Elvish words.
VardaValar1: I think Bilbo suggested Noble could be another version, but the Horde group pretty much agreed on Veteran for now.
VardaValar1: Pallando has a report for Eve Online. Go ahead.
pallandovalar: Valar Corp is up and running, though just enough so I can wave the flag and say "here I am!" recruitment in Eve is hard just for a run-of-the-mill corp.
VardaValar1: Congrats!
AriehnV: :-) grats sounds familiar
pallandovalar: The Pallando character has had something of a 2 year training break, but he's back into it. Money is plentiful, and skills are increasing.
pallandovalar: If your interested drop me a line, either email or ingame.
pallandovalar: 3 week free trial, plus if you're interested after that I'm more than willing to using some of my funds to buy you another month.
VardaValar1: Don't make him do that guys. He's not rich. : )
pallandovalar: Last (always free) expansion made the new player experience even more absurdly better.
pallandovalar: /me looks at his wallet ingame
pallandovalar: Well, I'm not entity, but I still have a half bil on me from my last money making run.
pallandovalar: /me grumbles something about new kids having it so easy these days
IWF519: lol how'd you do that?
IWF519: is EVE the space game?
VardaValar1: Yes
VardaValar1: We also have people playing StarCraft/BroodWar, Diablo name any version, and the Diablo Tolkien mod. : )
VardaValar1: Pallando, what is your Eve name?
VardaValar1: Forlong is explaining Eve to the LotRO group, hehe.
pallandovalar: That's, um. A great question.
VardaValar1: How does another player contact you?
pallandovalar: It ought to be Pallando Luneistar, but I now suspect I'm spelling it wrong.
VardaValar1: Probably Luin for blue?
VardaValar1: Do you check your email fairly often?
pallandovalar: I do.
pallandovalar: Pallando Luineistar.
pallandovalar: I always forget a vowel in there somewhere.
VardaValar1: Look on the Membership page for Pallando's email, still correct.
pallandovalar: So yeah. If you're interested, just drop me a line via email or aim, or ingame.
VardaValar1: Thank you.
VardaValar1: Are you alone out there in space currently?
pallandovalar: If you get in before next week I may not have blown all my main's cash on an overpriced cruiser, too.
VardaValar1: lol
pallandovalar: Don't count on it.
VardaValar1: Think we're related. : )
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Mirithel: Tell him if I get on this week I will build him a cruiser
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Oromeld: good to know there is a valat crew there, I messed around with the demo, but I was a bit overwhelmed, maybe I will look again
VardaValar1: Mirithel is Forlong-V, Oromeld is Orome-Valar.
pallandovalar: Anyways, yes. anaore (can't honestly recall his 'regular' name offhand) is out there but wanted to join a "real" corporation, which I can't blame him for. Getting somewhere in eve really requires it. We get one or two more people out though..
ArPharazonV: anarore?
ArPharazonV: Menelvagor?
pallandovalar: That's the one.
VardaValar1: He does that in WoW too, don't feel bad.
ArPharazonV: he has a shaman in WoW called Anarore :-)
ArPharazonV: *nod* well, so do I, though my actual guild is a small backwater community that doesn't do anything..
VardaValar1: Hard to build up when people run off elsewhere to something already established. But we try. : )
ArPharazonV: but still, it's the oldest guild on our server and my first home since entering WoW so I'm not leaving it for the world :-)
pallandovalar: Tell Forlong that he can't build fleet issue stabbers, and Orome that if he tried it out any more than a few months ago, they've really changed the introduction. Much better now. Besides, he's got friends to explain things now.
VardaValar1: Passed it on.
pallandovalar: That's all for me.
VardaValar1: Thank you, that's a lot!
VardaValar1: Do we have further gaming news, maybe Fladrif's chess tournament?
ArPharazonV: if the Ent's not asleep again :-)
VardaValar1: He's talking in a side-window, give him a sec. These ents. : )
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FladrifV has entered the room.
FladrifV: still in progress
FladrifV: my network lagged
VardaValar1: Good to hear you're still going, not knocked out of the Tourney. : )
FladrifV: hehe, no actually its still the same game
FladrifV: but Im 3 pawns ahead
VardaValar1: An Entish game indeed!
ArPharazonV: hah, was gonna say

Tolkien: we went for a stroll in Valinor
FladrifV: other news is, we are running the server now
FladrifV: you can message me for name
FladrifV: and pass
FladrifV: name consists of 2 parts
FladrifV: first and last
FladrifV: here you can download the client
VardaValar1: Ok, we might not want to use our Valar names since the Valar will be npcs
VardaValar1: Tough to have two Vardas running around for instance. : )
AriehnV: it really looks nice i have to say needs a bit exploring and trying out
AriehnV: i have logged in for a bit and i am set up
VardaValar1: Downloading now
ArPharazonV: I'm slowly setting it up, might be a little delayed though because I'm having a huge download-speed in my bittorrent and that doesn't happen very often so I'm leaving it on for now ;-)
ArPharazonV: got about 600 mb in the last half hour or so *grin*
FladrifV: hehe
VardaValar1: How many are trying this? Eonwe is afk
FladrifV: arien and you
ArPharazonV: I think I just got the actual viewer running
FladrifV: arphar did not request yet
ArPharazonV: so how does this work?
FladrifV: (12:30:06 AM) FladrifV: you can message me for name(12:30:08 AM) FladrifV: and pass(12:30:15 AM) FladrifV: name consists of 2 parts(12:30:18 AM) FladrifV: first and last
ArPharazonV: very small pushed away option in the corner says.. sign up for account
ArPharazonV: well, that's a start
ArPharazonV: we can choose our own name, or have you make one for us?
FladrifV: message me
ArPharazonV: with the name, or for the name?
VardaValar1: Message Flad with the name
VardaValar1: I have so much going on this little comp that it may go *phlop* any minute. : )
FladrifV: hehe
ArPharazonV: I'm.. in a mountain?
VardaValar1: You must be in that pit. ;-)
FladrifV: aye start position is not optimal
FladrifV: I invite all for a teleport to open land
ArPharazonV: I just saw a humanoid figure.. then it flew away
VardaValar1: What do we do for the people who may be emailing you?
VardaValar1: Mentions updated version. Want us to go for that?
ArPharazonV: haha, typing lag....
ArPharazonV: *eyes bittorrent*
VardaValar1: Guess I should
VardaValar1: WinRar is not free software.
VardaValar1: Weird way to update.
pallandovalar: WinRar is free.
VardaValar1: trial version I guess. Do we need this update?

pallandovalar: Also..just logged into Pallando for the first time in..awhile. He is not in a ship. [note: EVE Online]
pallandovalar: interesting.
VardaValar1: Floating in space?
pallandovalar: docked.
pallandovalar: He, in fact, is the proud owner of nothing. not recall this.
VardaValar1: Yikes
ArPharazonV: ouch
VardaValar1: Ticket a GM?
pallandovalar: No, I'm sure I just exploded everything an forgot about it.
pallandovalar: He has a few things.
VardaValar1: Corp still around?
pallandovalar: Now that I think about it he had nothing besides the ship, so I guess I lost that the last time I played him.
pallandovalar: Of course. corps don't die.
VardaValar1: O good :-)
pallandovalar: ..I'd ask if I was drunk when I did this..but I've never had a drop..why..does he have battlecruisers started?
pallandovalar: *scratches head*
VardaValar1: A corpsmate?
VardaValar1: You logged onto a different person than yourself? : )
pallandovalar: nope, definatly the right person.
pallandovalar: /me humms
IWF519: namarie all, i must be going
ArPharazonV: namarie
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ArPharazonV: would it be useful if we had Luthien in here for better conversation concerning this Valinor?
VardaValar1: Where is she? Is she in the Valinor Sim?
ArPharazonV: aye
VardaValar1: I'm in.
VardaValar1: Side of a mountain. See an island and cool stuff.
ArPharazonV: there's nothing like playing with your character's appearance to make you realise how ugly the human body actually is
ArPharazonV: by the way, for the sake of character appearance, any idea what Pharazon's hair-color was? I mean, "the golden" need not always refer to a person's hair
Eonwe Valar: If I recall, the Numenoreans typically had dark hair.
Eonwe Valar: I somehow doubt Pharazon would've been a blonde.
ArPharazonV: 't would be something, though...
ArPharazonV: he had the name Pharazon before his taking to the throne, I think
ArPharazonV: and Pharaz does mean gold
Eonwe Valar: He also gave away the treasures he got from sailing all over Middle-Earth, in order to win the favor of the people, if memory serves.
ArPharazonV: hmm, could be
ArPharazonV: still trying to read up on stuff
ArPharazonV: my god Fladrif's tall...
VardaValar1: Elongated like a proper ent. : )
FladrifV: *grin*
FladrifV: the landscape is more or less done
FladrifV: the scenery is at 0.1%
VardaValar1: laaaag
FladrifV: my internet connection is not the most powerfull in the world
ArPharazonV: how about facial hair?
ArPharazonV: did I have a beard? :-)
VardaValar1: I have to go join in a raid. Need to be there in 15 minutes. [note: LotRO]
Eonwe Valar: I'd imagine at some point Pharazon had a beard. Beards were more a symbol of wisdom and age at that point than a matter of fashion like they are now.
VardaValar1: I'd like more time to mess with this sim.
VardaValar1: I'll try again another time.
ArPharazonV: I just don't seem to find a beard-function in this thing...
VardaValar1: Namarie for now, will try again another time.
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ArPharazonV: namarie
Eonwe Valar: have fun.
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ArPharazonV: just quit the program, it's interesting, but a bit too designy for my taste
ArPharazonV: I never got the hang of simcity either *grin*
FladrifV: idea is that you dont need to design, just consume
FladrifV: but the ones who want can design
ArPharazonV: gonna save and send and go to sleep
Eonwe Valar: OK Phar. Sleep well.