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March 8, 2009 Meeting

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Ar-Pharazon and Varda

Attending: (7)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, arwenv1, Eonwe Valar (presiding), luthienathariel, pallandovalar,VardaValar1
    Beleg and Maedhros tried to participate from LotRO in the new Tolkien word-chain game.

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership:
    New Full Members:
       Pippin-(V)
       Brand-(V)
Web:
    Forum: Ballad of Maedhroc Thornhollow, to the tune of "Bilbo Baggins" the Leonard Nimoy video.
    Tolkien Site:
        Art
        Stories
    Gaming Site
Gaming:
    Eve Online
    Prince of Persia
    LotR Conquest
    WoW:
        Lothar: Beat Onyxia. Going after Onyxia again next Friday 6pm EST
        Uldaman
    LotRO
Tolkien:
    RP
    Tolkien word-association game invented today by Eonwe-(Valar).
        Beleg and Maedhros tried to participate from LotRO in this new Tolkien game. Next time we play such a game in the meeting, those wanting to play from a game could be included in the alphabetical list of players. This time was our first try and we had a lot of crashing, including of Eonwe who made up the game and needed to referee. Now that we have an idea of what we're doing, it should go faster, especially if we can keep from going afk or crashing. :)
       Word-chain:
            Anduril - Aragorn - Roheryn - Elessar/Elfstone - Estel - Beren - Luthien - Doriath - Menegroth - Nauglamir - Elendilmir - Earendil - Earendil - Elros - Maedhros - Alqualonde - Grey Havens - Ringbearer - barrelrider - Mirkwood - Thranduil - Legolas - Gimli - Gloin - Nanduhirion - Dimrill Dale - Weathertop - Kheled-zaram - orcs

Before-meeting:
You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
pallandovalar has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: egad, daylight savings
VardaValar1: Aiya Eonwe, Phar, and Pallando. :-)
ArPharazonV: sorry, in Naxx still
ArPharazonV: afk for a bit, going for KT
Eonwe Valar: Heya all.
VardaValar1: Aye, a terrible thing, both. :-)
pallandovalar: Hey, big ingame news in Eve right now
VardaValar1: Stay alive, Phar!
pallandovalar: We're partying it up
VardaValar1: Good just to hear you're getting to play Eve, Pallando!
VardaValar1: What's up?
VardaValar1: What's happening in Eve, I mean?
VardaValar1: Caranthir is in LotRO, less than 1 bar from leveling.
pallandovalar: Oh, uh.
pallandovalar: Summarizing as best I can:
pallandovalar: Minmatar Republic is tribal society. Long time ago, amarr come in and enslave them. They get freed with help from a different interstellar entity. However, there's a split among the tribes.
pallandovalar: Today, the last one just agreed to join the Republic.
pallandovalar: (I'm one of the Minmatar that was always a member)
Eonwe Valar: Interesting
VardaValar1: I'm passing on some of this to the LotRO people. Beleg just came online.
VardaValar1: Bless copy/paste. :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: VardaValar1: [Kinship] Bellegard: i played the trial to that game for a couple of days
VardaValar1: so at least he knows what you are talking about. :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe, sure, go ahead and chair.
VardaValar1: invited austeinm
Eonwe Valar: OK, looks like we've got as many people as are coming in, so let's begin.
VardaValar1: heh, pardon my typing in the wrong windows.
ArPharazonV: attempt 1: wipe, going for attempt 2
VardaValar1: I'm proxy for the LotRO lot. :-)
VardaValar1: eep! Good luck!
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Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
ArPharazonV: ended up tanking him, in dpsgear, with 2 adds on me, because so many others were dead
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: Two new members, Pippin and Brand, came in through LotRO this week.
VardaValar1: Active, too. :-)
Eonwe Valar: Pippin is a real life friend of Maedhros.
Eonwe Valar: Brand dislikes Instant messenger programs, so I guess we won't be seeing him at meetings, hehe.
Eonwe Valar: As long as he reads the transcript I guess :}
VardaValar1: Maybe if I keep up the proxy business.
Eonwe Valar: Luthien-(T) is still with us as a Tolkien Only member.
ArPharazonV: not coming to meetings?
ArPharazonV: or isn't she responding to invites?
Eonwe Valar: Not sure.
VardaValar1: She prefers the Tolkien part, and is happier with one on one than with group chat, which causes her problems.
VardaValar1: We could invite her for the Tolkien section.
Eonwe Valar: Is there any other Member News?
VardaValar1: She's still in the chat 99.9% more than other Tolkien-onlies.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, and some full members.
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: Ulmo is cross-guilding with a raid group called Elrond's Breakfast Club with one of his characters in LotRO.
VardaValar1: Kind of like Phar does. :-)
ArPharazonV: hehe
ArPharazonV: good name, good name
Eonwe Valar: If that's it for Member News,...
VardaValar1: Pallando?
VardaValar1: Phar?
VardaValar1: Guess not. :-)
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Eonwe Valar: Web:
Eonwe Valar: Varda, your floor.
VardaValar1: On the forum, Maedhros has added a take-off of the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins.
VardaValar1: It's based on his hobbit warden character in LotRO, amusing. :-)
VardaValar1: http://valarguild.proboards22.com/index.cgi?board=lotrogeneral&action=display&thread=866
VardaValar1: Art: Deepgroover-(T) has a lot of new models online now.
VardaValar1: Lists are on the News for March 4 and March 6, or see the Update section on his art cave.
VardaValar1: http://www.valar.game-host.org/varda/gallery/DeepGroover/caveDeepGroover.htm
VardaValar1: More is coming. :-)
VardaValar1: Stories: two new ones are online today.
VardaValar1: "The Third Bow" by Jay of Lasgalen.
VardaValar1: It is an epilogue to another story, but is also a stand-alone.
VardaValar1: I added a movie picture, not the one I was hoping to, but at least maybe it gets some of the mood.
VardaValar1: http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authorsT/JayofLasgalen/stories/WithFriendsLikeThese/WithFriendsLikeThese33.htm
VardaValar1: "Honor is Life" by Varda.
VardaValar1: It's for the heroic act drabble challenge from last Sunday. Only one turned in so far.
Eonwe Valar: Aw
VardaValar1: http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Varda/stories/HonorisLife.htm
VardaValar1: End Tolkien Site report. : )
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Varda.
pallandovalar: No member news here besides the ingame story, really.
Eonwe Valar: As far as the Gaming site goes, of course it's still got background work going on it, which will hopefully be done, or at least the current portion of it, so it will be implemented.
pallandovalar: The party is quickly becoming a party, if you catch my drift. hoping for a good barfight later..
VardaValar1: That is a lot of work, thank you, Eonwe!
VardaValar1: hehe Pallando
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Eonwe Valar: Gaming News:
Eonwe Valar: General:
Eonwe Valar: Still getting through Prince of Persia and LotR Conquest, so no reviews on them coming yet.
VardaValar1: We'd rather you finish before reviewing! :-)
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Lothar:
Eonwe Valar: This week, Elwing, Beline/Dracxil, and I went into Onyxia's Lair and slew the great dragon.
VardaValar1: (Maedhros just came online briefly, says hello to the meeting folk!)
Eonwe Valar: It was an interesting fight, and doing it with friends made it better.
VardaValar1: Did you go with a pug, I assume?
Eonwe Valar: No, it was just we three.
Eonwe Valar: This also marks the first time the Valar Guild has slain Onyxia.
Eonwe Valar: This was a guild function, and while other members have slain her a dozen times by now, it's the first time it was Valar who did it.
VardaValar1: Huzzah!
ArPharazonV: attempt nr 3 about to go
ArPharazonV: man, we are lousy in Naxx this week
VardaValar1: Getting yays from the LotRO group. :-)
Eonwe Valar: Yeah, I know, not impressive, people have done it a hundred times for the last four years, but the point is not how many people did it before us, but that *we* did it.
VardaValar1: I think it's impressive.
Eonwe Valar: Also of note is that Elwing won the Dragon's head :}
VardaValar1: aww cool!
VardaValar1: (Amroth just came online)
Eonwe Valar: Also in Lothar news this week, my Protection Paladin got his epic Charger this week.
VardaValar1: Woot!
Eonwe Valar: Thus ends the Lothar Report.
Eonwe Valar: Uldaman:
VardaValar1: (Ulmo's online)
Eonwe Valar: Not sure it was mentioned last week, but last week my Hunter there got to level 31 and got his Turtle pet. Fastitacalon is now his travelling Companion.
Eonwe Valar: *Fastitocalon
Eonwe Valar: Twenty points to anyone who knows that name without looking it up.
VardaValar1: turtle
VardaValar1: o pardon
Eonwe Valar: Hehe
VardaValar1: He's kind of sneaky. Lets people land on him like an island, then dumps them in the water.
VardaValar1: He's from a poem.
ArPharazonV: attempt 3 finally starting, will keep you posted
Eonwe Valar: If anyone else knew that before Varda, you get twenty points too :}
Eonwe Valar: *before Varda mentioned it
Eonwe Valar: To those who didn't, read more Tolkien :}
VardaValar1: Shall we go back to saying Valar Honors can't answer? :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe :}
Eonwe Valar: Elwing was also in Uldaman during the week.
Eonwe Valar: Unfortunately I didn't get much time to be there.
Eonwe Valar: Thus ends the Uldaman report.
VardaValar1: Yay Elwing!
Eonwe Valar: Lord of the Rings Online:
Eonwe Valar: I worked Monday night, my usual LotRO night, so I didn't get to do much more than char surf for mailbox checks.
Eonwe Valar: Varda, do you have a LotRO report?
VardaValar1: We have been running both low and high characters.
VardaValar1: Yesterday Gorlim and I completed all the quests in the Lothlorien border area.
VardaValar1: A number of us have been running with Pippin and Brand to help them with fellowship questing.
VardaValar1: Beleg is back. He's been out with back surgery, but able to play again now. :-)
VardaValar1: Mostly its little groups of us running together and crafting. Saturday and Sunday mornings are the big groups with the Melkorrim.
VardaValar1: Falathar and Melkor will be gone for a while. Melkor is on vacation til sometime in April.
VardaValar1: We would like to get more organized on times and finish up our radiance sets.
VardaValar1: Gorlim has two characters almost done with them, Fainan's been done a good while.
VardaValar1: There's more, but your eyes probably glazed over. : )
VardaValar1: End report.
Eonwe Valar: Thank you, Varda, for the report, not for ending early :}
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: I would also like to add for Lothar that we do intend to go after Onyxia next week as well, since Elwing asked so nicely after this week's :} If there are any Guild members on Lothar who are interested in Joining us, they're welcome so long as they can get in the instance.
VardaValar1: Friday about what time?
Eonwe Valar: Which means bring a 60ish char :}
Eonwe Valar: 6pm Server time roughly.
Eonwe Valar: That's eastern time, so 5pm central.
VardaValar1: Friday is tough. I'll ask around.
Eonwe Valar: NP, just an offer.
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news before we move to Tolkien?
VardaValar1: It's a good plan. Any other day besides Friday possible for you, Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar: Friday is the best day for me.
VardaValar1: okies
Eonwe Valar: It's not a long fight if that helps.
ArPharazonV: yay, KT dead
Eonwe Valar: Congrats Phar.
ArPharazonV: don't like the loot he dropped though!
VardaValar1: Grats for downing it, Phar!
AriehnV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: If that covers it for gaming, let's move to Tolkien.
ArPharazonV: hmmz, was the third week we downed him, so not that good... but it's not been a good week for raiding :-)
Eonwe Valar: Heya Arien
AriehnV: aiya all :-)
VardaValar1: Heya Arien :-)
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Eonwe Valar: Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar: RP:
Eonwe Valar: Mine and Menel's joint post should be ready soon.
ArPharazonV: don't forget to invite Luthien for Tolkien
VardaValar1: rp is not of interest to her, I don't think
ArPharazonV: perhaps not, but maybe after
Eonwe Valar: That's all I had for mention on the RP. I actually have something different in mind for Tolkien today.
Eonwe Valar: First, I need to know who all is here and ready to participate.
ArPharazonV: well
ArPharazonV: invite Luthien for that then :-)
ArPharazonV: we're done here, so will be ready
AriehnV: i am here
luthienathariel has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: yay Luthy
luthienathariel: howdy
Eonwe Valar: Heya.
VardaValar1: Welcome
luthienathariel: hannad :-)
AriehnV: aiya :-)
Eonwe Valar: Ok, so we have myself, Arien, Pharazon, Luthien, and Varda who are ready and able to participate in this?
luthienathariel: I'll not be attentive all the time, I am at my mother's ...
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, might be rough then.
luthienathariel: is there anything particular then?
VardaValar1: Hello to your mother. :-)
Eonwe Valar: This week, I thought we'd try a Tolkien word/name association game.
luthienathariel: thank you :-)
luthienathariel: oh, I didn't know that, sorry. I was not in here last week
Eonwe Valar: Neither was I :}
Eonwe Valar: We're going to go down the list alphabetically by screen name. The first person will name something, and the next person will name something that can be associated with that.
luthienathariel: ut I can try
luthienathariel: k
Eonwe Valar: If anyone sees something they don't know how it's associated, you can challenge that person to explain the link.
Eonwe Valar: For simplicity, let's use "challenge (person's name)" for that.
ArPharazonV: hmm, sounds interesting
Eonwe Valar: For added fun, I may choose to challenge anyone at any time to explain the link :}
ArPharazonV: ..doesn't everybody?
Eonwe Valar: The link only has to be between the person's named item/person/etc that came before.
ArPharazonV: how can we test if you know the association? :-)
Eonwe Valar: If someone names something that the association isn't obvious or doesn't exist, I suspect that there will be challenges by others :}
Eonwe Valar: I'm saying I personally may challenge even if I know the link :}
ArPharazonV: *grin* that's why I'm saying, we can't test if anyone knows the link, so anyone can challenge whether they know it or not :-)
ArPharazonV: but let's not make it more complicated!
Eonwe Valar: I'm trying not to :}
AriehnV: show how it works
AriehnV: :-) thats easiest
ArPharazonV: I guess Arien starts :-)
Eonwe Valar: If she wants, or I can go out of turn to kick it off.
VardaValar1: Is each one linked to the one before, or new each time?
AriehnV: aye best kick us off i dont know what to start with
ArPharazonV: each one linked to the one before I assume
Eonwe Valar: OK, here's the example/kickoff:
Eonwe Valar: Anduril
Eonwe Valar: Now, Arien has to name something/someone associated in some way with Anduril.
Eonwe Valar: Phar will name someone/something associated with who Arien names.
Eonwe Valar: And you can't reuse associations, so Anduril cannot be named again.
Eonwe Valar: This someone/something must be a Tolkien place/character/item etc.
AriehnV: Aragorn
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
ArPharazonV: Roheryn
VardaValar1: Going to be one of those crashing days, looks like. :-)
ArPharazonV: looks like it
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: Luthien's turn if she's there, or she can pass to the next.
luthienathariel: sry, what is Roheryn?
ArPharazonV: *is challenged by Luthien*
luthienathariel: no
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
luthienathariel: it is just a question .. never heard o fit
luthienathariel: of it
ArPharazonV: you want to know what it is, therefore you also wish to know the link :-)
luthienathariel: I know heryn is lady
VardaValar1: You can pass to the next person if you like.
ArPharazonV: Roheryn is Aragorn's horse
luthienathariel: \sure
luthienathariel: pass
luthienathariel: oh ok
VardaValar1: Pallando, you're up. :-)
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: whoops
VardaValar1: Nope.
VardaValar1: Ok, Phar, you get to name another.
ArPharazonV: I do?
ArPharazonV: another link to Aragorn?
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
ArPharazonV: allright, will go with the Elessar/Elfstone
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
ArPharazonV: I have a feeling the system's already running rampant :-)
VardaValar1: Luthien, do you want to take that one?
luthienathariel: is it my turn?
luthienathariel: I thought it went alphabetically
VardaValar1: We had to redo the last one, aye. Or you can pass. Phar said Elessar/Elfstone.
luthienathariel: oh ok - sure
luthienathariel: mom
luthienathariel: ent
VardaValar1: Which one?
luthienathariel: Estel
ArPharazonV: moment, Varda :-)
pallandovalar: Just like to interject that this party is going *really* well.
ArPharazonV: your turn, Pallando :-)
VardaValar1: heh
luthienathariel: ( I thought that mom. was acceptabe as abbreviation but then thought it also meant mother )
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
pallandovalar: Also, Estel..hmm.
pallandovalar: Beren
VardaValar1: Luthien : )
luthienathariel: how so Estel -> Beren ?
VardaValar1: And where did Luthien's turn go?
ArPharazonV: Luthien said Estel
ArPharazonV: come on, Varda, keep up :-)
VardaValar1: I thought that was her answer to Elfstone.
luthienathariel: nope ;-)
ArPharazonV: well, yes, and the next one has to associate with that, right?
VardaValar1: Then what was the answer to Elfsone?
luthienathariel: yes
ArPharazonV: Estel is both the answer to the last one and the leadup to the next one
VardaValar1: Eonwe's game. He's relogging and trying to return.
VardaValar1: okies
ArPharazonV: and yes, I too feel confused with the Estel-Beren assocation
ArPharazonV: *challenges Pallando*
VardaValar1: Also challenges Pallando. :-)
VardaValar1: There's a way to associate it, but he'll have to tell us now. : )
luthienathariel: well, obviously there is a lot of it to associate with Beren, but what *in particular* ?
VardaValar1: Aragorn - Roheryn - Elessat/Elfstone - Beren
VardaValar1: *can't spell tonight* :-)
luthienathariel: Aragorn - Roheryn - Elessat/Elfstone - Estel
ArPharazonV: Elfstone leads to Estel leads to Beren
ArPharazonV: and I guess I was supposed to replace Roheryn with Elfstone?
VardaValar1: nope, we can keep going.
ArPharazonV: sooo...
VardaValar1: Pallando is not answering his challenge.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
ArPharazonV: and Eonwe's not getting in either
AriehnV: Estel means hope
AriehnV: Berns and Luthien's story was supposed to give hope to the hobbits under weathertop
luthienathariel: estel* [' st l ] n. hope, trust, a temper of mind, steady fixed in purpose, and difficult to dissuade and unlikely to fall into despair or abandon its purpose
VardaValar1: Estel is a name of Aragorn.
luthienathariel: is it?
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
AriehnV: if i remember right , just before the attack from the ringwraiths .. i know its a bit far fetched but it is a link all right
luthienathariel: ah yes. Indeed.
VardaValar1: Anduril - Aragorn - Roheryn - Elfstone/Elessar - Estel - Beren
VardaValar1: Challenge is how is Beren associated with Estel?
luthienathariel: I thought it had come from Aragorn musing Arwen ..
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: That would work, but Pallando should be answering the challenge. Luthien standing in as Pallando's champion?
AriehnV: i tried to explain Varda maybe the link is the meaning *Hope* the or the fact that Aragorn is somehow related to Beren around thousand corners
VardaValar1: Arien, you are also being Pallando's champion? Hey, Pallando, the girls are standing up for you! : )
AriehnV: or indeed Arwen - Aragorn --- ?> Beren - Luthien
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
luthienathariel: (did Pallando himself leave?)
VardaValar1: Right. I did add Luthien after Beren.
VardaValar1: Pallando is afk in a game.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: ok, we'll move along. Arien, what would you say after Luthien?
pallandovalar: Whoops, sorry. I thought the link was pretty obvious. Kinda went back to the party.
VardaValar1: Anduril - Aragorn - Roheryn - Elfstone/Elessar - Estel - Beren - Luthien
pallandovalar: Yes, it was the Beren/Luthien Aragorn/Arwen parallel.
VardaValar1: Thanks, Pallando. : )
VardaValar1: Arien, your go.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
AriehnV: Doriath
VardaValar1: Phar, your turn. : )
ArPharazonV: Menegroth
luthienathariel: Nauglamir
VardaValar1: Pallando's turn.
AriehnV has left the room.
luthienathariel: that'll last a bit, until the next cease-fire on that other game he's into now ...
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: right anything after Nauglamir i missed?
VardaValar1: I think they were in a bar-fight in Eve Online, a space game.
VardaValar1: Nope, Pallando's turn and he's afk.
luthienathariel: you mean there is a game that consists of bar-fighting?
luthienathariel: or at least has it in it?
VardaValar1: nope. It's a little part of it.
luthienathariel: wow
VardaValar1: Yes. Has it in it.
ArPharazonV: hehe
ArPharazonV: yep, WoW has some barfighting too, if you count the Blackrock Depths location
VardaValar1: The Prancing Pony in LotRO has concerts, rp, sales.
luthienathariel: *tries to fire up imagination, fails, gives up*
VardaValar1: Sometimes bar fights.
VardaValar1: That's ok. Let's skip Pallando.
VardaValar1: Elendilmir
ArPharazonV: oh, nice one
VardaValar1: Arien's turn
AriehnV: err Elendil
VardaValar1: Eonwe asks to go after Phar
AriehnV: i meant to say Earendil
AriehnV: but both are links lol
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: Which do you want to use? : )
AriehnV: Earendil
AriehnV has left the room.
VardaValar1: Cool. Phar's turn.
ArPharazonV: Elros
AriehnV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: Welcome back. Eonwe wishes he could get back in like you do. : )
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Maedhros
VardaValar1: Luthien's turn
luthienathariel: Alqualond
luthienathariel: e
VardaValar1: - - M
VardaValar1: pardon, trying to type in LotRO and it went here. : )
VardaValar1: Pallando, your turn if you''re there.
VardaValar1: Grey Havens
VardaValar1: Arien's turn
VardaValar1: (We have some really good words in this chain. :-)
AriehnV: Ringbearer
VardaValar1: Phar's turn
ArPharazonV: hmm...
ArPharazonV: barrelrider
VardaValar1: Eonwe's turn
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Mirkwood
luthienathariel: thranduil
VardaValar1: Pallando, should we count you out?
luthienathariel: guess that means *yes*
VardaValar1: Legolas
VardaValar1: Arien's turn
AriehnV: friend
ArPharazonV: Samwise
arwenv1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Friend isn't a Tolkien person/place etc :}
VardaValar1: Aiya Arwen : )
luthienathariel: hmm
luthienathariel: yes
AriehnV: err true enough Eonwe
AriehnV: Gimli then
ArPharazonV: Gloin
arwenv1: Aiya
VardaValar1: Eonwe's turn
AriehnV: Aiya Arwen :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Nanduhirion
VardaValar1: Luthien's turn
luthienathariel: dimrill
pallandovalar: no bar fight..yet!
VardaValar1: Arwen asks not to be included in the game.
VardaValar1: Pallando, your turn. : )
pallandovalar: Attempts at fixing this are currently ongoing!
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: challenge Luthien :}
pallandovalar: My alliance executor was *very* drunk, though.
VardaValar1: Hard to fight if you can't stand up. : )
pallandovalar: Hmm.
VardaValar1: Luthien has to answer the challenge first.
luthienathariel: ?
VardaValar1: luthienathariel: dimrill
luthienathariel: what is the question exactly?
VardaValar1: VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: challenge Luthien :}
luthienathariel: yes, I got that
luthienathariel: but what does he want to know?
VardaValar1: He challenges the link between Nanduhirion and Dimrill. You need to defend it.
luthienathariel: afaik it is the translation of it ...
luthienathariel: just checked it .. http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/n/nanduhirion.html
VardaValar1: Eonwe will challenge at any time whether or not he sees the link. Nice. : )
luthienathariel: what for?
VardaValar1: "valley of the dark streams" dim is dark, rill is streams.
VardaValar1: It's a game.
pallandovalar: k..
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Was she referring to the Dale or the Stair?
luthienathariel: oh, the stair
luthienathariel: I think
pallandovalar: Oh.
pallandovalar: Hmm.
pallandovalar: Can it be the Dale instead?
luthienathariel: sure
pallandovalar: Yay! Dimrill Dale -> Weathertop
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Pallando's in the mix? I'd like to challenge that one too and see how he links Azanulbizar to Weathertop :}
VardaValar1: Pallando, you keep getting challenged while you're afk. : )
pallandovalar: whoops
pallandovalar: Here.
VardaValar1: Like to defend your link?
pallandovalar: Actually, that's not as great as I first thought it was.
VardaValar1: We take slightly lame if you can show a link. : )
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
pallandovalar: Well, I misremembered, so now all it is is that in one the fellowship mourns the loss of Gandalf, and in another Gandalf is victorious against the Nazgul.
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Sounds like his link is "Gandalf was there" :}
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: I guess allow it.Eonwe Valar: It's a link, hehe.
VardaValar1: Then I'll say Kheled-zaram
pallandovalar: I told you it was lame once I thought about it.
VardaValar1: Any comments? : )
VardaValar1: If not, Arien's turn.
ArPharazonV: how do you connect Kheled-zaram with Weathertop? :-)
luthienathariel: lol
VardaValar1: If the mountains of Azanulbizar include Weathertop, then the Mirrormere is located along there too.
ArPharazonV: hehe, allright
VardaValar1: *whew*
VardaValar1: I need to leave. Would you guys like to continue or call it here?
AriehnV: whoops what is the las one ?
luthienathariel: i need to go sleep soon too
AriehnV: me here as well earlies tomorrow
VardaValar1: Kheled-zaram (Mirrormere
AriehnV: weathertop .. Orcs
VardaValar1: Eonwe Valar: Weathertop is a ways away..
AriehnV: Kheled Zaram - orcs
VardaValar1: Would someone please contact Eonwe and let him know the game words if you continue?
VardaValar1: I have to leave.
AriehnV: ok Varda thanks for leading this :-)
AriehnV: Namarie for now :-)
VardaValar1: It was fun. : )
VardaValar1: I don't think Pallando's and mine actually worked. ;-)
AriehnV: shall we call it a night then and fun bang the gavel
VardaValar1: *bangs gavel*
VardaValar1: Eonwe is still on, any remaining feel free to include him in one to one chat. : )
VardaValar1: Namarie!
ArPharazonV: I'm off too, gotta get up in 5 hours
VardaValar1 has left the room.
AriehnV has left the room.
ArPharazonV: saving and sending
luthienathariel: Arien says good night, she accidentally closed the window too soon
ArPharazonV: noted :-)
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