Valar Guild

February 8, 2009 Meeting

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Ar-Pharazon and Varda

Attending: (7)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, arwenv1, Eonwe Valar, fladrifv, luthienathariel, VardaValar1 (presiding)

Meeting begins
    Luthien: Tolkien Ensemble concert
    Ar-Pharazon: schedule change
    Gorlim: 20th wedding anniversary
    Arien: schedule change
        Membership 2009 roster page is now online
    Tolkien Site:
       Art by Turgon-(V)
       Story by Jay of Lasgalen
    Left 4 Dead
    Spore: review by Arien-(Valar)
    Tolkien Moment: quote from Return of the King as they go to the Grey Havens.

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: 5 minutes yet. afk
ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya
ArPharazonV: just finished Patchwerk (I got to bear-offtank, yay), and the raid ended
ArPharazonV: I got my tier 7.5 shoulders!
VardaValar1: Congrats :-)
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: aiya there :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: aiya
VardaValar1: back
fladrifv has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Arien and Fladrif
ArPharazonV: btw, Flad, when were you coming back to WoW? ;-)
fladrifv: Hey,
fladrifv: that is a good question
luthienathariel has entered the room.
VardaValar1: He should come to Turbine LotRO. ;-)
VardaValar1: Get a lifetime account and not worry about the bills afterward.
VardaValar1: Aiya Luthien
luthienathariel: hey
luthienathariel: (just came back from the TOlkien Ensemble concert)
VardaValar1: Oh fantastic!

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Luthien, would you like to tell about the concert?
luthienathariel: yeah, that was great
luthienathariel: ssure
luthienathariel: now?
VardaValar1: While you're thinking about it before you go into afk mode, aye.
luthienathariel: ok - you know the group?
arwenv1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: They did the music on your last video, , the Tolkien Ensemble?
luthienathariel: yes
VardaValar1: Aiya Arwen :-)
luthienathariel: they're from Denmark
VardaValar1: Luthien's telling about the concert she just came back from, Arwen. : )
luthienathariel: and are doing a tour now in Germany
luthienathariel: hi :-)
luthienathariel: it is a group with varying members, but more or less classical / folk oriented
luthienathariel: but they are awesome. Christopher Lee also worked with them
VardaValar1: What did he do with them?
luthienathariel: tonight they did a LOTR program - like a framework for the concert.
AriehnV: that
luthienathariel: he did some songs
luthienathariel: hey yes, THat's them!
luthienathariel: great
luthienathariel: and I have Caspar Reif's autograph :-)
VardaValar1: Grats : )
AriehnV: nice
luthienathariel: but it was really good. Except "Into the West" which was sung by a lady who really couldn't. But that's the only thing.
luthienathariel: I noticed they used a lot of material from Howard Shore btw
VardaValar1: Lot of people there?
luthienathariel: yes, it was full
VardaValar1: Do they sing indoors or outside?
luthienathariel: on inside.
luthienathariel: it's too cold here now.
VardaValar1: How do they pick who can sing and play with them? They must have noticed the lady couldn't sing as well as the others. Was she an actress?
luthienathariel: I have no idea, honestly.
luthienathariel: oh
luthienathariel: sorry
luthienathariel: that was an answer on the first part
luthienathariel: she was a dancer.
luthienathariel: gosh, don't know what to say anymore.
VardaValar1: But you had a good experience? : )
luthienathariel: it is like I have to speak to an audience who are all silent
luthienathariel: yes, obviously
ArPharazonV: sorry, just busy printing out my schedule for the next trimester
VardaValar1: Thanks for telling us about it. People will be reading this later and going wow. : )
VardaValar1: In other membership news,
ArPharazonV: monday's looking fun so far, 9.00 to 12.45 and another course from 15.00 to 17.00
VardaValar1: Gorlim had his 20th marriage anniversary this last Friday.
VardaValar1: And Phar is telling his schedule for class. : )
ArPharazonV: just the annoying bits
ArPharazonV: I mean, 8 hour day with 2 hours break.. come on
luthienathariel has left the room.
ArPharazonV: hey, did I scare her off?
VardaValar1: She usually shuts down til Tolkien.
ArPharazonV: yes, but leaving the room?
ArPharazonV: seems a bit drastic ;-)
AriehnV: lol i am looking through u tupe tolkien videos i was looking for songs fro the ensembel lol and got lost iin some of the things people have done lol
VardaValar1: I asked. She left on purpose because:
VardaValar1: luthienathariel: oh that is because otherwise I see that thing blinking all the time when you are talking about games and servers
AriehnV: what thing and cant i be turned off?
VardaValar1: The AIM chat blinks to let the user know someone is talking.
ArPharazonV: for me, this window does not blink
ArPharazonV: only IM windows blink
ArPharazonV: it makes a sound though
VardaValar1: Mine does both because that's how I set it.
VardaValar1: Anyway, back to Membership news. : )
VardaValar1: Do any of you have any more?
VardaValar1: The schedule affects when you can show up so it matters.
AriehnV: My holidays are over :-( i ve been working today and am on earlies tomorrow
VardaValar1: Ok, so we need to try to keep the meetings short in mercy to Europe. : )
ArPharazonV: my schedule means I'll need to leave meetings early, aye

VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: The Membership roster for 2009 is now online, but not complete. Still, it gives an idea.
VardaValar1: I just haven't been working at it as I should. People apparently expect me to email them to ask if they want to stay, rather than trying to make contact to make sure they can stay.
VardaValar1: Same as every year. : )
VardaValar1: Tolkien Site:
VardaValar1: Art:
VardaValar1: Turgon-(V) sent in new artwork
VardaValar1: His art area (cave) is at:
VardaValar1: New artwork is
VardaValar1: Aule
VardaValar1: Fingolfin vs Morgoth
VardaValar1: A drake
VardaValar1: A Noldorin elf shield
VardaValar1: We also have a new story by Jay of Lasgalen, a drabble (100 words exactly challenge form):
VardaValar1: "Red, Red Wine"
VardaValar1: Does anyone else have any web news?

VardaValar1: Gaming:
VardaValar1: Which games did you folks play that weren't WoW or LotRO?
ArPharazonV: thinking... but probably none
VardaValar1: StarCraft/BroodWar with fellow Valar at my house, various games like Left 4 Dead and others.
AriehnV: i ve played a bit spore
AriehnV: i got a copy for my birthday
VardaValar1: Congrats! I was eyeing that. How was it?
ArPharazonV: oh, grats
AriehnV: :-)
ArPharazonV: on the game and on your birthday :-)
VardaValar1: When was your birthday?
AriehnV: 30th of january a bit back hehe
AriehnV: spore is quite fun different very different from wow
AriehnV: i got into the tribal stage so far
VardaValar1: So you've only had it about 8 or 9 days. : )
AriehnV: about that :-)
AriehnV: its nice for relaxing and some fun with out pressure of gearing up . trying to get bonusses up and trying to keep the guild right
VardaValar1: Is it single player?
AriehnV: aye but once u can add someone iinto ur pack i think u can add a player
AriehnV: and it getss multi once u managed to ally with another species
AriehnV: so its up to players i think if they chose to kill all the other species no pack ^^
ArPharazonV: are these other species actually player-controlled then, or just copied by the game itself from another player and controlled by the AI?
AriehnV: i think at first maybe game controlled
AriehnV: but then player controlled or both , some player some computer
AriehnV: as u play the game online that seems likely
AriehnV: but contact with these player c ontrolled species only once u impressed them
AriehnV: theres various means to do so
AriehnV: sing dance .. charm
ArPharazonV: hehe
AriehnV: in the creature stage u can only ally with one other species then two as the intellect grows s
AriehnV: but thats too much detail i think and i still havent figured out every thing
fladrifv: *wakens up*
AriehnV: oooh some leaves are falling from the brances ?
fladrifv: I have seen how all the young ones grew up on the earth, is that alike spore>
fladrifv: I tested this week the well needed brain training in the form of chess
VardaValar1: Online still or live?
fladrifv: we still need more patient people to join me
fladrifv: both varda
fladrifv: I found some victi.... opponents
VardaValar1: hehe
fladrifv: in the summer it will be more again
fladrifv: sitting next to a castle, playing chess in the fields...
VardaValar1: Nice image.
fladrifv: and all will wonder why the pieces sometimes move
fladrifv: and why that elv is playing against a tree...
fladrifv: *elf
VardaValar1: =)
VardaValar1: That would make a fine painting. : )
fladrifv: aye too bad I cant draw by hand :-(
VardaValar1: Still into art?
ArPharazonV: you mean by branch?
fladrifv: I tried figurative, but Im more an abstract artist
fladrifv: hehe aye thank you kind of numenor
VardaValar1: Twiggy fingers.
VardaValar1: LotRO:
ArPharazonV: anyway, 's been fun, but I gotta go to sleep... am afraid there'll be no more late staying in the meeting for me for a while
ArPharazonV: I just want to remind Arien that we had a Nexus-run this week and that she should report it for WoW ;-)
VardaValar1: We have been doing high level instances and getting our Radiant armor sets. The Melkorrim are bringing their lowest level family member well up.
AriehnV: oh yes i remember hehe
VardaValar1: Good night, Phar. : )
AriehnV: good night pharzi :-)
VardaValar1: WoW:
fladrifv: namarie arpha
ArPharazonV: Namarie, saving and sending
VardaValar1: Lothar and Uldaman: My family, Eonwe, and Elwing have been gaming there. Elwing is visiting right now and in Uldaman with Sauron.
VardaValar1: WoW Argent Dawn, Arien go ahead.
ArPharazonV (4:58:06 PM): saved   [Note: Times are in CST. Add one hour for EST.]
VardaValar1 (4:58:22 PM): Thank you, Phar. : )
AriehnV (4:59:22 PM): On Wednesday Calaron  (Ar Pharzon here), Finduilaswen (my druid) and a few friends from the High Guard plus an aquaintance of Pharazon from raiding  had a blast thrugh the nexus
AriehnV (5:00:14 PM): and that quite virtual hehe . especially as by accident three groups were pulled by accident by one of our companions
AriehnV (5:00:38 PM): but thanks to a great healer no major casualties to start with
AriehnV (5:01:37 PM): as far as i remember else there no major problems  and all bosses including my old *friend* Kerasalztra or what her name is , the last dragon
AriehnV (5:01:43 PM): were duly downed
AriehnV (5:01:53 PM): quests done
AriehnV (5:02:07 PM): and finally some new nice gear as rewards :-)
VardaValar1 (5:02:28 PM): Any strategies you want to mention?
VardaValar1 (5:03:05 PM): If it's a guild secret, please don't feel you have to tell.
AriehnV (5:03:18 PM): hmmm it might be good remember that on the tree boss Ormok dps bes t really work direcltly more or less  under him
AriehnV (5:03:31 PM): so he cant hit u with the crystal shards
AriehnV (5:03:50 PM): casters and healer have to watch out where they come up
AriehnV (5:03:57 PM): they hurt ^^
AriehnV (5:04:36 PM): On Anomalus .. destroy Rifts but also the wee voidies that do spawn
ArPharazonV (5:04:39 PM): tank and dps have to watch out for them too, but we usually just take a step from the side.. it's easier when you're below him, indeed, because then you already have your eye on the area you're standing him
ArPharazonV (5:04:46 PM): *to the side
ArPharazonV (5:04:52 PM): *in
AriehnV (5:05:23 PM): is there anything u want to add Phara ?
AriehnV (5:05:50 PM): oh i almost forgot Phaara helped after with some eilite quests in dragon blight as well
ArPharazonV (5:05:52 PM): not really, but I think it was me who grabbed the three groups... well, I got 2 and got knocked into the thrid ;)
ArPharazonV (5:05:54 PM): oh, right
AriehnV (5:06:22 PM): and not long after that i dinged 73 on the wildcat :-)
ArPharazonV (5:06:26 PM): I'd already done them, so mostly knew where the locations were, and if not I remembered after being reminded of it
ArPharazonV (5:06:43 PM): of the objective of the quest in question, that is
AriehnV (5:06:45 PM): yeah i picked that warlock up near wyrmrest
AriehnV (5:06:58 PM): sorry for him ;-) i dint know him beforehand
ArPharazonV (5:07:13 PM): he was convinced that quest-target was all the way to the north while he was near the south *grin* but we got there in the end
AriehnV (5:07:35 PM): indeed
AriehnV (5:07:52 PM): so thats it from me and thanks a lot agaion
VardaValar1 (5:08:03 PM): Thank you for an informative report. : )

VardaValar1 (5:08:47 PM): Tolkien:
VardaValar1 (5:09:00 PM): Do we have any people up to a discussion?
VardaValar1 (5:09:18 PM): Phar and Arien and Flad are about to leave? Arwen afk?
AriehnV (5:10:05 PM): lets have a small tolkiend moment if u have one ready
ArPharazonV (5:10:19 PM): sent
AriehnV (5:10:41 PM): maybe a poem , song or an extract that u can think off off hand?
VardaValar1 (5:11:38 PM): Going to the Grey Havens, and remember, if Arwen, Elrohir and Elladan did not go with Elrond, they would not be going to Valinor.
Eonwe Valar (5:11:53 PM) has entered the room.
VardaValar1 (5:12:23 PM): "Then Elrond and Galadriel rode on; for the Third Age was over, and the Days of the Rings were passed, and an end was come of the story and song of those times.
Eonwe Valar (5:12:31 PM): Heya all. Pardon my lateness. My internet decided to act up.
VardaValar1 (5:12:41 PM): Aiya Eonwe : )
AriehnV (5:12:53 PM): aiya Eonwe :-)
VardaValar1 (5:13:42 PM): "With them went many Elves of the High Kindred wo would no longer stay in Middle-earth; and among them, filled with a sadness that was yet blessed and without bitterness,
VardaValar1 (5:14:12 PM): "rode Sam, and Frodo, and Bilbo, and the Elved delighted to honour them."
ArPharazonV (5:14:19 PM): Namarie all, time to go
VardaValar1 (5:14:26 PM): Ending the Moment.
VardaValar1 (5:14:30 PM): Namarie!
AriehnV (5:14:34 PM): Namarie!
Eonwe Valar (5:14:37 PM): Take care Phar
ArPharazonV (5:14:42 PM) has left the room.
VardaValar1 (5:15:00 PM): Our Europeans need to start leaving early, as they have earlier hours for class and work.
VardaValar1 (5:15:12 PM): So we're wrapping up with a Tolkien Moment.
VardaValar1 (5:15:38 PM): I hurried it a bit, lot of typos. : )
VardaValar1 (5:15:57 PM): *bangs gavel*

VardaValar1 (5:16:02 PM): After-meeting
AriehnV (5:16:25 PM): thanks Varda :-)
VardaValar1 (5:16:33 PM): Rest well, Arien : )
AriehnV (5:16:56 PM): i honestly wish i could make the times a bit more equal to  yours
AriehnV (5:17:05 PM): so they d clash less
VardaValar1 (5:17:36 PM): It is very hard. The Americas are just getting off work and some eating supper when you are going to bed.
AriehnV (5:17:57 PM): hehe aye i know u do ur best and so do we :-)
VardaValar1 (5:18:06 PM): Much appreciated!
AriehnV (5:18:19 PM): its hardly satisfying for both uf our side but the closest we can come
VardaValar1 (5:18:34 PM): Compromise works. : )
AriehnV (5:18:48 PM): :-) Namarie all then rest well when u get to it
Eonwe Valar (5:18:53 PM): Take care :}
AriehnV (5:18:57 PM) has left the room.
VardaValar1 (5:20:18 PM): Elwing is visiting at my house right now.
Eonwe Valar (5:20:30 PM): Cool :} Heya to Elwing :}
VardaValar1 (5:20:44 PM): She and Sauron are gaming in Uldaman, and I'd like to go join them. You're most welcome to come too. : )
Eonwe Valar (5:21:24 PM): :}
VardaValar1 (5:22:47 PM): Namarie
Eonwe Valar (5:22:52 PM): Have fun :}
VardaValar1 (5:23:01 PM): Think you might come?
Eonwe Valar (5:23:17 PM): Uldaman the server or Uldaman the instance?
VardaValar1 (5:24:36 PM): Uldaman Horde server.
VardaValar1 (5:24:42 PM): Terrible name for the server. : )
Eonwe Valar (5:24:48 PM): hehe
VardaValar1 (5:24:57 PM): Trying to save this transcript.
Eonwe Valar (5:25:09 PM): Every server's named after someone or something from Warcraft :}
VardaValar1 (5:25:24 PM): Yep
[Note: Eonwe did indeed join the other three in WoW Uldaman server.]