Valar Guild

December 20, 2009 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5)
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Ar-Pharazon and Varda

Attending: (6)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV (presiding), fladrifv, Indis-(V)/karakedi25, Menelvagor Valar, VardaValar1 (late)

Meeting begins
    Art by DeepGroover-(T)
        Tales of Monkey Island
    Arien-(Valar): "The Man in the Moon"

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Hmm.
ArPharazonV: Varda and Eonwe are apparently away again.
fladrifv has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: So I guess it's up to us. I've got Arien invited, but otherwise it's up to Menelvagor to lead
ArPharazonV: if you're actually here :-)
AriehnV has entered the room.
karakedi25 has entered the room.
karakedi25: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: I got an email from Varda
ArPharazonV: Eonwe will be working during this meeting, as he has been working much longer hours all during the Christmas season. Varda will be missing or late as she will be with friends and family, some of whom won't be able to see each other for Christmas, so we're doing pre-Christmas gifting and festivities.
ArPharazonV: so it's up to us again
ArPharazonV: So is anyone actually mentally present enough to hold a meeting? :-)
karakedi25: sort of
karakedi25: I'm also in LotRO, and in a few minutes will be going into a demanding instance
ArPharazonV: we're already starting late because I was a fool and didn't check my email until 15 minutes after starting time [Note: mail also sent to Arien.]
ArPharazonV: but if you're all busy, and neither Arien nor Menelvagor's present enough to run things, I guess it'll be me going through the motions and talking to myself and whoever happens to be reading the transcript!
karakedi25: heh
ArPharazonV: I'll give them a few more minutes to wake up before I start
karakedi25: I'll check in from time to time after the instance starts, but I'm crafting now and can be pressent
karakedi25: -s
ArPharazonV: *nod* just let me know when you're free again ;-)
AriehnV: aiya all sorry valarites i was engaged with some undead in UP heroicsd
ArPharazonV: *hands gavel to Arien* all yours, sunshine
AriehnV: no i am not here
ArPharazonV: Meh.
AriehnV: gavel suits you well
AriehnV: where is the rest of the elite?
ArPharazonV: *points up* Eonwe's workin', Varda's with friends and family and is missing or late
ArPharazonV: allright, let's get things started while you're still here

AriehnV: Elen sila lumenn omentielvo a star shines on the hour of our meeting
ArPharazonV: Elen silá lummenn omentielvo!
ArPharazonV: yes, yes, was getting to it
ArPharazonV: A star shines on the hour of our meeting.
AriehnV: ^^
ArPharazonV: Welcome all to this Valar-guild meeting, and let's get down to any business we have to discuss
ArPharazonV: Membership:
ArPharazonV: ...anyone?
ArPharazonV: any new members scouted that you know of, or other membership-news?
ArPharazonV: I'll say that things to Fladrif I got my pc upgraded today (again) and I hope it'll be better suited now for some of the more hefty stuff like games I'll be mentioning in a further section :-)
ArPharazonV: *thanks to Fladrif
ArPharazonV: Also, for me the Christmas vacation has started, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, so Merry Christmas to the Valar guild!
karakedi25: And happy holidays to you
AriehnV: and Nollaig Chridheil bho Alba dhuibh a h-uile duine :-)
ArPharazonV: I have no idea what you said but I like the way you said it and I agree with it full-heartedly.
AriehnV: meaning *Merry Chrismas from Scotland to everyone "
karakedi25: some Celtic language--Irish? saying merry Christmas
AriehnV: Scottish Gaidhlig actually
ArPharazonV: Alba is Scotland?
AriehnV: :-)
AriehnV: indeed
AriehnV: Alba is Scotland
ArPharazonV: Anyway, I hope everyone's having a wonderful time now and in the following weeks, rejoice and be merry! (and Pippin if you feel like it)
AriehnV: :-)
karakedi25: perchance would hui-le duine be all the world?
ArPharazonV: if Varda has any Valar-Christmas-festivities in mind for meeting or in LotRO she'll have to tell you herself if she gets to be here tonight
AriehnV: all people , every one
AriehnV: duine - man
AriehnV: or people as a whole as in nation
ArPharazonV: Allright, if nobody has any more membership-news?
AriehnV: nah i dont
karakedi25: nor do I

ArPharazonV: Web news:
ArPharazonV: There is a new art-piece by DeepGroover-(T)
ArPharazonV: a new model, personally modified and painted, named Viking
ArPharazonV: you can look at it at
AriehnV: very nice work
ArPharazonV: holds all his creations that are on the valarguild website
ArPharazonV: Any other webnews?
AriehnV: Nope

ArPharazonV: Gaming
ArPharazonV: has anyone played anything besides WoW or LotRO this week?
AriehnV: nah not this week i am afraid :-(
ArPharazonV: then I'll start by saying I've been playing a small bit of Tales of Monkey Island, the full series of which I purchased this week
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: and will be playing more in the coming weeks :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya Menelvagor! Any news from you?
AriehnV: aiya Menel :-)
Menelvagor Valar: well... aside from some really bad personal news, some reasonably good personal news and some somewhat stressy "quit-the-smoking" news... nope :P
ArPharazonV: anything you want to share? :-)
Menelvagor Valar: got ripped off on my credit card for 2 grand plus.
AriehnV: bah :-(
ArPharazonV: yikes
karakedi25: (going into instance now)
AriehnV: not good
karakedi25: I'm so sorry to read that!
Menelvagor Valar: well, I've already reported it to the police, sent the report to the bank and they'll just have to take it from there.
Menelvagor Valar: not much more I can do, if anything.
Menelvagor Valar: just can wait and hope I can get my cash back.
ArPharazonV: I hope it all works out!
AriehnV: i wish you all the luck with it from the heart Menel , i do really hope so
Menelvagor Valar: well, at least I've had some good stuff happen to me recently, which somewhat balanced out the crap.
AriehnV: :-)
Menelvagor Valar: I've met a really beautiful woman, and we seem to be mutually attracted to each other :-)
Menelvagor Valar: it's nothing serious yet, but it's enough to set my stomach aflutter.
ArPharazonV: then you'll probably be losing a lot more money in the near future ;-)
AriehnV: good luck , Menel , and all the best for it :-D thats really good news
Menelvagor Valar: Money I'd be glad to spend anyways :-)
ArPharazonV: hehe
Menelvagor Valar: and besides.
Menelvagor Valar: I won't be paying more actually.
Menelvagor Valar: I'd likely be paying less :-)
ArPharazonV: pfh, dating can be expensive
Menelvagor Valar: Since I kinda made her a promise I'd quit smoking in the new year.
ArPharazonV: ah :-)
AriehnV: yes that will save you a lot :-)
Menelvagor Valar: and with about 200 euros a month worth of smokes not on the bill, leaves a lot of cash for dating :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Of course, she was smart enough to snicker at me and disbelieve my word :-)
Menelvagor Valar: "Yeah right, another one of those crappy new year's resolution thingies" would be a fairly accurate translated interpretation.
ArPharazonV: at least she's realistic then :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Lucky for me, I have this innate ability if someone challenges me to *not* do something, regardless on what grounds, I tend to go overboard in getting it done :-)
Menelvagor Valar: It's like I turn left every time someone says I should or would go right.
ArPharazonV: so if I challenge you not to give me all your wow gold...
Menelvagor Valar: and just face it, left is better, since lefties are a minority on this planet :-D
AriehnV: another thing to wish you good luck for :-) keep us updated if you will :-)
Menelvagor Valar: I will. :-)
Menelvagor Valar: I'd say tough luck, since my account is no longer active.
ArPharazonV: *nod* good luck with all of those things
ArPharazonV: haha
ArPharazonV: lucky for you then ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: besides, all my gold is *not* on AD anymore, remember?
ArPharazonV: right, you switched servers?
Menelvagor Valar: yeah.
Menelvagor Valar: but found out that it didn't really matter after all.
ArPharazonV: then I challenge you not to reactivate your account, not move back to AD, and not to give me all your gold!
Menelvagor Valar: I just don't fancy playing WoW anymore.
ArPharazonV: Hmm.
ArPharazonV: Not interested in the new patch?
Menelvagor Valar: Ok, let me rephrase my previous statement.
ArPharazonV: nah, I was just kidding around
Menelvagor Valar: bla bla copy-paste ; "When it is sensible and I might do it of my own accord anyways."
AriehnV: hehe
ArPharazonV: *grin* fine, fine
ArPharazonV: any other news, or shall we head further into gaming?
AriehnV: i think we can dare that Phara
Menelvagor Valar: so I'll reactivate my account (pays 13 bucks for that), transfer back to AD (another 20 bucks) and then give you my entire stash of gold... which is just about ... 50'ish gold or so.
ArPharazonV: 50'ish? yeah, don't bother then, I've got alts with more money than that
Menelvagor Valar: exactly.
Menelvagor Valar: I don't bother to grind dailies anyways.
Menelvagor Valar: and besides, I have NO bagspace to do it with :P
ArPharazonV: Heh.
AriehnV: lol thats my phrase *grin*
AriehnV: my chronological problem ^
ArPharazonV: Well, while we're on the subject of WoW, I'll resist the opportunity to tell you about all my WoW exploits this week but we can continue into WoW otherwise anyway
ArPharazonV: Arien, got any news on Europe?
Menelvagor Valar: well, I could create like... at least half my bank of extra space, but I'd prefer not to sell / disenchant all those epics.
Menelvagor Valar: I've had to sell too many already!
AriehnV: Unfortunately we had no Valar exploits this week :-( but i did some random instances with Finduilasse landing each time in Underbog
ArPharazonV: Heh.
Menelvagor Valar: heroic or normal? :-)
AriehnV: Normal it will be six levels yet until he can do that heroic :-(
Menelvagor Valar: aha.
AriehnV: had the luck to try out The Forge of Souls with Ariehn
AriehnV: and the end boss is evil
Menelvagor Valar: Ya, I should do that stuff actually.
ArPharazonV: noticed the reference with the first boss, Arien?
Menelvagor Valar: And yes Phar, despite all my anti-wow ranting before, I have already pre-ordered cataclysm :-D
ArPharazonV: Haha!
ArPharazonV: I think I'll wait until they actually release some information about that before I think about preordering, I'm not too trusting of all the gaming shops
AriehnV: nope but did the quest with jaina and in the Pit of Saron actually only the Pitmaster himself remains to be dealt with
ArPharazonV: maybe I'll take another shot at getting a CE
AriehnV: but it wont let me queue for that because the rogues gear is too crappyu
AriehnV: just in random
ArPharazonV: the Pitmaster is only the first boss of 3 I think, you'll get a sequel quest after that
ArPharazonV: but you'll find that out soon enough, I hope you get to gear up enough :-)
AriehnV: on Auchindoun i just got revered with the Kirin Tor with the Pali :-)
AriehnV: err i mean exalted
ArPharazonV: congratulations :-)
AriehnV: thatz it from me :-)
Menelvagor Valar: congrats :-)
ArPharazonV: then I'll add that I've been randoming a bit too this week, got my 100-pug achievement, and the pug pet with it
AriehnV: trying now to get decent retri gear
ArPharazonV: ugly little thing, but cute
AriehnV: which one is it?
ArPharazonV: a pug :-)
ArPharazonV: doggy
AriehnV: nice :-)
ArPharazonV: I've also taken up work on my Insane in the Membrane feat, got 18000 bloodsail rep in 3 hours tonight so I think I'm well on my way again ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: how do you get that up anyways?
Menelvagor Valar: kill everything and everyone in Booty Bay?
ArPharazonV: killing Booty Bay bruisers
AriehnV: killing gnome settlemens :-P
Menelvagor Valar: nah, those are goblin :P
ArPharazonV: I don't touch the normal npcs, goblin bruisers keep spawning on you when you're hostile or hated with BB
ArPharazonV: bruisers also give more rep, and besides, people might need the questgivers and vendors
Menelvagor Valar: they're short and ugly and not so smart as gnomes and are notoriously in alignment with the horde.
ArPharazonV: so anyway, I slew 720 goblins tonight, as calculated, and got to Neutral with Bloodsail now
Menelvagor Valar: in other words, we don't mind killing em :P
AriehnV: indeed hehe#
AriehnV: oooh my dark side gets them as faction but never mind lol i wont make one
ArPharazonV: but enough of about that, I won't bore you with raiding progress either, does anyone else have WoW news? I don't think there's any American players here tonight
ArPharazonV: I'll make a goblin when Cataclysm comes. I would love to see their backstory and starting quests.
ArPharazonV: Won't level him up beyond those though.
AriehnV: aye maybe i ll try them out :-) like that
AriehnV: should we haste through Lotro since only myself and Indis are in that and Indis is busy wacking some mobs in some weird place atm
ArPharazonV: allright, moving on! LotRO
ArPharazonV: there's some news about LotRO on the news page, it seems
AriehnV: ah yes i ve noticed that actually loggin into the game
ArPharazonV: It seems all servers, including Landroval, had a hardware upgrade, though I'm not sure how that affects all of you, but it should be better ;-)
AriehnV: you can play for free over a few days
AriehnV: i ll check the dates
ArPharazonV: There is also a weekend of free play called the Welcome Back Weekend
ArPharazonV: from the 17th to the 21st according to the news page
Menelvagor Valar: I got no clue, just got back into lotro after one of my usual long absences :-)
ArPharazonV: well, I'll leave Arien in charge of LotRO now, I'm sure she has some things to report and I don't know anything about the game ;-)
AriehnV: i think that its for players who stopped their account for a while they can play for free until now
AriehnV: err until tomorrow it is
AriehnV: from my Loro side there is not much news from me apart from that my Burglar got 34 and has her first basic starter pony :-) , she is proud owner of Barley now
AriehnV: he is a bit of a toodly one but quite nice :-)
AriehnV: the wee bit faster version costs 4 g and u need lvl 35 for that
AriehnV: The Valar guild i am sure did some common raiding and questing as usual but i was not part of it
AriehnV: oh yes and i tried out some skirmish tutorial and got through the first part all right
AriehnV: that is a new thing with the expansion patch
AriehnV: so i ll find out more about that in time
ArPharazonV: :-) I'm sure you've got lots of time to figure it out
AriehnV: :-)
AriehnV: and what is your character called again Menelvagor?
AriehnV: he seems to be afk or fallen asleep or someone called on the telephone L)
ArPharazonV: :-)
ArPharazonV: well, any other gaming news then?

ArPharazonV: Anyone got a Tolkien-topic?
ArPharazonV: or a Tolkien-moment, as Arien suggests to me in sidechat?
ArPharazonV: Arien, do you have one in mind?
AriehnV: /
AriehnV: *grabs a copy of Tom Bombadil*
AriehnV: the book is upstairs i fear ^^
ArPharazonV: I have not read the book myself, but if you want you can grab a few lines out of it and we can look at them :-)
AriehnV: ah well i just fell on * The Man in the Moon " :-)
AriehnV: we remember where it turned up in Lord of the Rings ? :-)
ArPharazonV: ahh yes, in the Inn of the Prancing Pony
ArPharazonV: and the cow jumped over the moon!
AriehnV: indeed :-D
AriehnV: i ll give you that verse
ArPharazonV: the cow, the dog, the cat playing the fiddle
ArPharazonV: and the beer so brown that the man in the moon himself came down one night to drink his fill
AriehnV: "With a ping and a pong the fiddle/-strings broke!
AriehnV: the cow jumped over the Moon
AriehnV: and the little dog laughed to see such fun
AriehnV: And the Saturday dish went off at a run]
AriehnV: with the Silver Sunday spoon :-)
AriehnV: The round Moon rolled behind the hill, as the Sun raised up her head
ArPharazonV: hmm, can't trust the cutlery....
AriehnV: She hardly believed her fiery eyes,
AriehnV: for though it was day , to her surprise
AriehnV: they all went back to bed !
ArPharazonV: they all went back to bed!
ArPharazonV: hehe
AriehnV: "chuckles"

ArPharazonV: Allright, with that we'll continue into aftermeeting *bangs gavel cautiously*
AriehnV: Thank you Ar Pharazon for chairing the Meeting tonight
AriehnV: :-) you did a nice job i think
Menelvagor Valar: You sure did.
ArPharazonV: Thank you! I wasn't able to share a lot of news tonight as much as Varda or Eonwe would, but I did my best.
Menelvagor Valar: and can't blame anyone with this very nice yet atrocious weather!
AriehnV: whats the weather like in Netherlands?
Menelvagor Valar: I wouldn't have done it better myself Pharzie.
Menelvagor Valar: snow, snow, snow and more snow.
ArPharazonV: I hope my 15 minutes of fame are now over and next week I can sit back and enjoy as those more used to the task take over once more :-)
ArPharazonV: yep, snow
Menelvagor Valar: forecasts actually state we'll be having a white christmas.
ArPharazonV: my parents made a snowman in the afternoon while we were working on the pc-upgrade
ArPharazonV: all public transportation stopped because of the weather
Menelvagor Valar: as it will continue to snow up until christmas eve (not continuously though).
AriehnV: hehe :-) nice
AriehnV: we had about 3 inches of snow yesterday
AriehnV: or a bit less
AriehnV: which is enough for Portree ;-)
AriehnV: its not a mountain village
AriehnV: but it was raining into it when i left work at seven o clock your time
ArPharazonV: I think we had something around that amount here too, locally (well, in the backyard and on the street, anyway, I didn't go much further)
AriehnV: i just hope that slosh wont freeze over or it will be baad on the roads tomorrow
Menelvagor Valar: hehe.
Menelvagor Valar: I think there's at least 5-6 inches of snow on my balcony.
AriehnV: i remember last year we had weekends when or at least one when the police had really a lot to do with over 20 accidents in the region
AriehnV: cars going off the road
Menelvagor Valar: yeah, looks like we're heading into an ice age :-)
Menelvagor Valar: global warming my arse :-D
ArPharazonV: pch, we had the warmest november in ages
Menelvagor Valar: it's getting colder and colder each winter!
Menelvagor Valar: and with -7 straight out on winter's doorstep.
AriehnV: not really that smooth of a seasn change anymore :-\ we go from one extreme into the other
Menelvagor Valar: in centigrades of course, not fahrenheit.
ArPharazonV: I'm glad we've been having this snow, though the extremes are worrying, as Arien said
Menelvagor Valar: for our american buddies who might be reading this at a later time :-)
ArPharazonV: I'm not sure we'll see many winters like this anymore in our lifetime
Menelvagor Valar: aye.
AriehnV: indeed i think you can save it and send if for them to read#
ArPharazonV: Of course, I will be saving the transcript and sending it to Varda.
AriehnV: :-)
Menelvagor Valar: especially if we spend every next winter of our life on gran canaria, ibiza or in australia!
AriehnV: ah well if the water in the stoor fall jumps back up the 40 feet cliff maybe
AriehnV: Stor fall
AriehnV: i mean :-) hang on i ll get you a picture and you ll see :-)
AriehnV: Namarie for now and good night :-) see you next week
AriehnV has left the room.
fladrifv: namarie
fladrifv has left the room.
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: you're about.... 40 minutes too late ;-)
VardaValar1: heh
VardaValar1: Well, hi anyway! :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya :-)
ArPharazonV: I hadn't saved and sent yet, so you're still here ;-)
VardaValar1: Yay! Nick of time!
ArPharazonV: how was the Christmas festivity?
karakedi25: back, but I see things are over
VardaValar1: Much fun. Movie: Avatar. Many presents. Three pizzas.
VardaValar1: Great company. :-)
ArPharazonV: oh, Avatar, I'd heard from that, supposed to dethrone lotr as top-movie ;-)
ArPharazonV: *of that
VardaValar1: Not with me, although I enjoyed it a lot.
VardaValar1: Top box-office you mean?
ArPharazonV: most expensive movie ever I think, 500 million?
VardaValar1: It was a new technology for 3-D, so it should be high-priced.
ArPharazonV: well, in Christmas viewings I believe, and in Oscars, and stuff like that
VardaValar1: But the tickets are very high too, and the glasses were 3 bucks a pop.
ArPharazonV: eek
VardaValar1: There were 6 of us, so we felt it. heh
VardaValar1: It's not something we can run back and watch seven times, because of the expense.
ArPharazonV: you don't get to keep the glasses? ;-)
VardaValar1: You can and we did, but they ask you to recycle them in buckets at the door as you leave.
ArPharazonV: aw
VardaValar1: I still have mine.
ArPharazonV: then you can use it to watch it again 6 times!
VardaValar1: The ticket is also high.
ArPharazonV: anyway, saving transcript
ArPharazonV: true
VardaValar1: Okies
VardaValar1: Namarie for now. :-)
ArPharazonV: namarie, have fun in WoW :-)