Valar Guild

June 10, 2007 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by: 
Ar-Pharazon-(V), Eonwe-(Valar), and Varda-(Valar)

Attending: (9)
    Ancalagon-(V)/sarujil, Arien-(Valar)/AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Bombur-(V)/MrMonkey2002Blah, Eonwe Valar (presiding), GilraenV, GwaihirValar, Menelvagor Valar, VardaValar1

Meeting begins
    WC3: Ar-Pharazon, Gwaihir
    SC: Eonwe, Gwaihir
    RP on the forum

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
Sarujil has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
MrMonkey2002Blah has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya
GilraenV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya
GilraenV: Aiya all! I'm sorry, but Gwaihir and I are leaving in a little while for dinner with his parents. Hopefully we'll catch the tail end of the meet when we get back :-)
ArPharazonV: allright, have fun :-)
Eonwe Valar: Have fun Gilraen and Gwaihir :}
GilraenV: Thanks. Namarie for now :-)
GilraenV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Looks like this might be a small meeting.
Eonwe Valar: We'll begin shortly and see how well we can move this along.
ArPharazonV: where's Varda?
Eonwe Valar: I don't know.
ArPharazonV: allright
Eonwe Valar: As far as I know, she planned to be here, as I've had no e-mails from her to the contrary.
AriehnV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: If you all see anyone on that's not here, please send them an invitation.
Eonwe Valar: Heya Arien
AriehnV: Aiya all
AriehnV: sorry for the delay but i had to get some essentials for my wee orc warrior#
ArPharazonV: all I see at the moment who's not in here, is Gil-Galad
Eonwe Valar: Ok, then looks like I've got everyone invited.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's begin. This should be a quick meeting.

Eonwe Valar: Elenn Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: Ancalagon's birthday was this past week. Happy Birthday, Ancalagon :}
AriehnV: Happy birthday Ancalagon, indeed
Sarujil: thanks :-)
ArPharazonV: happy birthday!
Eonwe Valar: Since you're here, Ancalagon, perhaps after the meeting or during Tolkien chat, we can talk about the RP, if you still wanted to join in.
Sarujil: ok
Eonwe Valar: Not all the RP people are here, but we can talk a little about it at least.
Eonwe Valar: Also, during the meeting last Sunday, Arveleg-(TV) tested to become a full member with the same Tolkien name :}
Eonwe Valar: He's off on vacation though, leaving shortly after the test last Sunday,.
Eonwe Valar: Any other membership news?

Eonwe Valar: Web News:
Eonwe Valar: Games Page Mass-Update under way.
Eonwe Valar: Every full members should've got an e-mail, if their e-mail is correct on the Members page.
Eonwe Valar: If you seen other guild members on in the games you play, make sure they know about it.
Eonwe Valar: *If you see

Eonwe Valar: Gaming News:
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Lothar-
Eonwe Valar: Seems I was the only one on until late on Friday, so I spent the time collecting my primals to make Thunder, the first step towards THE mace for Ret Paladins.
Eonwe Valar: I also officially crossed over the halfway mark for gold to afford my epic flying mount. 3000 more to go :}
AriehnV: where do you get motes of mana btw? i think i might need some for blacksmithing in some future time
Eonwe Valar: On Wednesday, Fangorn, Eowyn, Bilbo, and I were playing on Lothar instead of Uldaman, and did some of the tougher quests l;ike the Nessingwary bosses and Forge Camp:Annihilated, so there is nothing to report from Uldaman this week.
ArPharazonV: Netherstorm is the best zone for that, I prefer the elementals at the Kirin'var village but those might be overfarmed
ArPharazonV: as in crowded :-)
Eonwe Valar: Cyclones in Netherstorm dropped motes of Mana for me.
Eonwe Valar: But let's not get side-tracked.
Eonwe Valar: Arien, do you have a report for Argent Dawn?
AriehnV: yes there is a little report#
AriehnV: even though it is not from the official gaming day since both vMenel and myself got envelopped in other undertakings
AriehnV: but there was a Valar Grouping on Mondahy
AriehnV: Menelvagors Anarore, Valandils Orophin, Ar Pharazons Calaron and my Finduilasse plus a High Guard Mage went to the underbog
AriehnV: it was good fun and we had no bigger troubles even though the fights with Hungarfen and the Black Stalker were a real challenge
AriehnV: but we got them both :-)
AriehnV: Menel got his quest done and i got a nice mace out of it including some Motes of Life
AriehnV: so it was a real succes
AriehnV: Thus endeth my report
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Arien, and congrats :}
Eonwe Valar: LotRO Landroval Reoprt:
Eonwe Valar: Report even.
Eonwe Valar: Short version: We have 18 people on Monday night, so there was alot of grouping going on.
Eonwe Valar: have = had
Eonwe Valar: June 13th is the date for the Evendim expansion, with new quests, musical notations, and more.
GwaihirValar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: So looks like I'll be stuck downloading that for several night afterward :}
ArPharazonV: is it that slow? :-)
Eonwe Valar: Anyone play anything besides WoW and LotRO?
ArPharazonV: yah
Eonwe Valar: Downloading on dial-up is :}
ArPharazonV: I did some more Warcraft 3 on, mostly custom maps.... getting back into some map-types I used to play years ago when I wasn't WoW-ing yet
Eonwe Valar: Haven't figured out how my friend who gets me all the big WoW patches can snag the LotRO updates for me :}
GwaihirValar: Just popping in to say hi... I'm actually heading to my parents place for dinner(since dad works next sunday we're doing father's day dinner today)
ArPharazonV: the American server seems to disconnect me from time to time, though, so I'll be playing mostly on Europe from now on
GwaihirValar: and I've been playing Starcraft and WC3 a lot lately ;-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya Gwaihir :-) I thought you left half an hour ago!
GwaihirValar: Err... I was in the shower half an hour ago ;-)
ArPharazonV: ah
ArPharazonV: of course, if anyone wants to play with me on the American server, let me know and I'll get on there
AriehnV: warcraft three is really nice since it gives all the background info for wow, or at least some of it
ArPharazonV: but I can't guarantee I won't disconnect anywhere in the game :-)
Eonwe Valar: I've had some peopel respond to the GPMU that they play WoW if memory serves.
Eonwe Valar: er, not WoW, WC3.
GwaihirValar: I've been going through starcraft to remind myself of the story there... since sc2 is in production officially
GwaihirValar: ;-)
ArPharazonV: I meant at a certain time, Eonwe, like if we get AIM contact and decide to play 5 minutes after or so
Eonwe Valar: Aye, I've played some Starcraft recently as well.
Eonwe Valar: I know, Phar, just letting you know there are others playing Wc3.
GwaihirValar: well I'm off now, namarie friends
GwaihirValar has left the room.
ArPharazonV: I tried to do the same, Gwaihir, but I'm not very good at Starcraft
AriehnV: Namarie, Gwaihir
ArPharazonV: so basically abandoned it for now, and we'll see if I'm better at Starcraft 2...
Eonwe Valar: Anyone else?

Eonwe Valar: Ok, then looks like the business part of the meeting is done, and we can move to Tolkien chat. Anyone have a topic?
Eonwe Valar: If not, I suppose we can discuss the RP in Tolkien chat tonight, since it is a Tolkien RP :}
Eonwe Valar: Everyone here?
ArPharazonV: I'm here
Eonwe Valar: Let me see if I can find some of our other after-meeting chats for the RP, review what we've talked about.
Eonwe Valar: So only Phar and I are here?
Eonwe Valar: Shame on you for doing somethign else when we finished the business meeting in 23 minutes :}
ArPharazonV: well unless Sarujil is here, there's not much we can discuss that we discussed... 2 weeks ago or so?
AriehnV: I am here too
Eonwe Valar: Aye, not really, except to prod those who haven't posted yet to post :}
Sarujil: im partially here, but i dont think im cut out for the rp
Eonwe Valar: Really?
Eonwe Valar: Why not?
Eonwe Valar: If you don't mind sharing.
Sarujil: i dunno. too many conditions :-)
Eonwe Valar: Hehe, like keep your character realistic within Tolkien's world? :}
Eonwe Valar: Or is it the trouble fitting the character you wanted to play into the story?
Sarujil: more like keeping my character up to varda's standards :-)  [Note: Standard: can't run an evil character with a good group.]
Eonwe Valar: bah, afk for a moment. won't take long.
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
AriehnV: she is coming btw#
VardaValar1: Aiya
Sarujil: speaking of...
AriehnV: there she is }+
Sarujil: aiya varda
VardaValar1: =)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: Aiya :-)
VardaValar1: What did I interrupt? :-)
Eonwe Valar: Nevermind.
ArPharazonV: the RP!
VardaValar1: oh wonderful!
ArPharazonV: in the Tolkien-section
VardaValar1: Can I join in? :-)
Eonwe Valar: We were discussing the RP, sort of. Ancalagon's not sure he'd fit in it. Asking what makes him feel that way.
VardaValar1: It's the big wings. They get stuck in the doorway.
Eonwe Valar: Hehe.
ArPharazonV: Elwing played an eagle... why can't Ancalagon play a dragon then!
Eonwe Valar: Because we'd have to slay the dragon? :}
ArPharazonV: nah, it'll be nice dragon
ArPharazonV: raised by humans?
Eonwe Valar: The primary thing we're going for in the RP, Ancalagon, is realism within Tolkien's world. That means no flying super-Elves, no humans slaying Balrogs.
VardaValar1: Thought you said it would be nice?
ArPharazonV: an egg left behind by Smaug discovered in Erebor and kept safe from the populace, and a young dragon raised to benefit the Free Peoples!
Eonwe Valar: It doesn't have to be perfect. The story's not perfect :}
VardaValar1: The story's definitely not quite on track : )
Eonwe Valar: And it's not meant to stifle creativity.
VardaValar1: After gaming in LotRO, you ought to feel more at home than some of the others traveling around, more familiar.
Eonwe Valar: I thought the underground spiders were interesting and within the bounds of Tolkien.
VardaValar1: Aye, cool touch
ArPharazonV: never played LotRO, so you should feel more at home than me :-)
VardaValar1: LotRO doesn't have Mirkwood yet, but we're heading into the Angmar area
VardaValar1: You could play some version of Ancbeard?
Eonwe Valar: That's why I suggested reading the story and the accompanying disucssion thread, because it'll give you a pretty good idea of how we're doing things, at least enough not to get too far off from Tolkien.
VardaValar1: Elwing's here at my house, says hi
Eonwe Valar: Heya to Elwing :}
ArPharazonV: Aiya Elwing!
VardaValar1: She dragged me off very abruptly earlier to see a movie, and we just got back. Pirates 3
Eonwe Valar: I went to see that a couple of weeks ago with friends. I thought it was a good movie.
Eonwe Valar: But anyway, Ancalagon, participation in the RP is strictly voluntary :}
Sarujil: thats an idea: i could be a corsair from umbar :-)
VardaValar1: My third time, her second
VardaValar1: heh, you want to die? : )
Eonwe Valar: So we won't make you join in :}
VardaValar1: Some just join in for bit parts for fun, like Elwing's bird, or Elatan's magic user.
VardaValar1: come in for a short bit, then out. Tolkien had characters like that too.
ArPharazonV: you could play a whole host of bad guys, making a new one when we kill of the old ;-)
VardaValar1: Try a few on for size
ArPharazonV: *off
VardaValar1: Really, why not run some version of Ancbeard?
VardaValar1: or one of the others. You have a lot of LotRO characters
VardaValar1: We could use someone to make sense out of the weirdness Arathorn's dwarf left us with too
VardaValar1: That would take some real thinking
Eonwe Valar: Which weirdness?
VardaValar1: Mysterious goings-on with his dwarves
VardaValar1: Anc could be one of that group or checking up on them
ArPharazonV: whatever happened to Arathorn? is he still around?
VardaValar1: Arathorn is around in WoW
VardaValar1: but not in good condition
Eonwe Valar: I think he just decided to drop the RP.
VardaValar1: Aye, he stopped doing the rp
VardaValar1: Arathorn had surgery on his hand, still hurts
ArPharazonV: I see
VardaValar1: They didn't fix the problems and he may need more surgery
ArPharazonV: that's not good...
VardaValar1: But he still plays WoW a la Ulmo : )
VardaValar1: he can't "talk" as much or as well, but gets off a batch of words in a short time
VardaValar1: Anc, you don't have to get in the rp, but if you would like to, you'd be welcome.
VardaValar1: Maybe you'd rather knock out some poems or short stories or articles?
Eonwe Valar: Arien, are you still with us in the RP? Your Frali is supposed to come all the way to Rivendell, after all :}
VardaValar1: Frali could be outside with Fainan grazing the horses. Pony? Riding with me?
AriehnV: i just am writing the post Varda
AriehnV: wactually i was wondering what on earth he is riding
VardaValar1: ah hah! I'll catch up
AriehnV: a goat?
AriehnV: ;-)
Eonwe Valar: A pony most likely.
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Dwarves aren't too keen on horses. Frali could be worried about that too, and I would offer to take you.
Eonwe Valar: Or sharing a horse.
ArPharazonV: a Ram, like in WoW!
VardaValar1: Fainan used to haul Arathorn's character too
Eonwe Valar: A pony might not be able to keep up with a horse running,..
AriehnV: oki dok , a pony will be made ready for him but a) he wont be too keen on riding
AriehnV: and b) kyour argument eonwe
AriehnV: so Fainan can offer to take him
AriehnV: as Frali has already a soft spot for her, he will graciously accept ;-)
VardaValar1: that works :-)
ArPharazonV: and suddenly Haran shows up and says: "Hey! Where am I gonna sit now?"
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: lol
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Should be funny if he has to ride with Eonwe!
VardaValar1: Auros, I mean
Eonwe Valar: Estarion is probably going to need a horse of his own at some point :}
VardaValar1: that was the next thing I had started to type, Eonwe : )
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: We might use that as an excuse to drop by Dale if needed
VardaValar1: Get him a horse, and not bug Thranduil for one
Eonwe Valar: I'm sure the innkeeper of the inn we stayed at in Dale could get us a good horse for a good price, considering how well he was paid :}
Eonwe Valar: Fainan seems to be the the one amongst us with the best knowledge of horses. She could probably pick the horse.
Eonwe Valar: Darn it, we have a reason to go to Dale :}
VardaValar1: sorry, I'd just ask the horses which one of them wants to go and carry our Frali friend. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Or at least a feasible one :}
Eonwe Valar: lol
Eonwe Valar: We're talking about Estarion :}
VardaValar1: er, sorry, Estarion
Eonwe Valar: question is: could horses raised by men compete in speed with horses raised in Rivendell?
Eonwe Valar: I suppose Sulenar could take it down a notch :}
VardaValar1: Some might have been traded or bred with Elven stock
VardaValar1: We could pick up one from the raft elves?
VardaValar1: They keep getting left out of stories : )
Eonwe Valar: Would they have horses?
ArPharazonV: rafts :-)
ArPharazonV: we can sail up the river!
Eonwe Valar: Hehe, and appear right inside Thranduil's wine cellar :}
VardaValar1: It's getting up to the trapdoor that is tricky
VardaValar1: They are elves, probably have horses.
VardaValar1: They would not be restricted to river traffic
Eonwe Valar: Perhaps. Perhaps getting a horse from the raft Elves, if necessary would make more sense than a trip to Dale.
Eonwe Valar: After a trip across the plains between Dale and Mirkwood, Auros would be able to see how much the doubling up is slowing him down.
Eonwe Valar: He might be a bit too eager to get gone to think about that right now.
VardaValar1: Aye, or not able to do much about it, since Dwarves tend to just have ponies.
Eonwe Valar: And the building impatience at everyone being late isn't helping :}
VardaValar1: hehe
ArPharazonV: hmm.. thunderstorm breaking loose here, I'll save in case I get disconnected somehow
Eonwe Valar: ok
ArPharazonV: or the power fails :-)
Eonwe Valar: The question then comes, why didn't he notice being slowed down when he was coming the other direction?
Eonwe Valar: The group makeup essentially hasn't changed./
Eonwe Valar: 4 Elves and a Dwarf.
ArPharazonV: maybe we were a bit preoccupied to think about such things? all sorts of creatures giving chase
Eonwe Valar: Maybe he wasn't as concerned when he was on his way to Erebor as he is heading back.
VardaValar1: He did notice
VardaValar1: Adding to his realization that something needs done
Eonwe Valar: He did try to get the escort to give up a couple of horses, then Fainan's Silvan pride kicked in :}
VardaValar1: oops : )
Eonwe Valar: "We can surely ride doubled just as easily as you!" More or less her words :}
VardaValar1: That is hilarious. You can remind her when we get the fresh horse
VardaValar1: Silvan pride needs to get a little kick now and then too. ; )
Eonwe Valar: So Auros let it be. What a magnanimous guy Auros is :}
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: Righhhht
VardaValar1: I get a kick out of your "prideful Noldo" roleplay
VardaValar1: In real life, Eonwe is a very charming and thoughtful individual. : )
VardaValar1: Met him all of once.
Eonwe Valar: *bow*
AriehnV: and post
Eonwe Valar: It's a fun task to try and balance Noldorin pride with 3 thousand years of knowing better :}
ArPharazonV: read the post!
ArPharazonV: poor pony :-)
ArPharazonV: that's also an interesting bag, usually doesn't get taken into account for stories like this ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Reading...
VardaValar1: bag? remind me?
VardaValar1: ahh, Frali's travelbag
VardaValar1: Fainan said hi to Frali : )
Eonwe Valar: Imladris is the Elven name. Dwarves of Erebor would probably call it Rivendell instead.
AriehnV: ah ok , i ll change thats
VardaValar1: An easy fix
ArPharazonV: read ale/?p=984 for a small bit about backpacks and all in fantasy stories... it occurs to me that there was hardly any mention of backpacks in Lotr except for the bit in Mordor?
VardaValar1: They mostly put things on Bill, then carried their few items from Bill into Moria.
VardaValar1: I read Twenty-sided a lot. Good comic : )
ArPharazonV: yeah, just caught up with it again for the last week or 2, I keep forgetting about it :-)
VardaValar1: fun when you get to read several at once
VardaValar1: I like to read the comments too
VardaValar1: There's one from Varda *cough*
VardaValar1: Vardav
ArPharazonV: I usually only read the starter comment by the creator and glance over the rest of the comments
ArPharazonV: where did you comment?
VardaValar1: It's when the commenters didn't know what happened to Gimli and Legolas after the War of the Ring.
Sarujil has left the room.
ArPharazonV: I meant, which episode? :-)
AriehnV: hehe i like this ;-)
VardaValar1: CVII, #93
ArPharazonV: CVII, you sure?
ArPharazonV: ah, CVIII
ArPharazonV: I love the comment about the rock in that one, comment 84 :-)
ArPharazonV: "My favorite gag was giving my D&D party a rock. Nothing precious, just a small chunk of marble that had been set on a pedestal by a tribe of orcs."
ArPharazonV: The orcs thought it was magical, and when the players had slain their way to the orc shaman’s cave they saw him hovering over the rock and thought it must do something.
ArPharazonV: They carried this 8lb rock around with them for 4 gaming sessions (and asked many things about it) until finally someone finally cast detect magic on it.
ArPharazonV: Needless to say, I got dice thrown at me. It was so worth it
ArPharazonV: "
VardaValar1: Priceless : )
Eonwe Valar: afk for a sec
AriehnV: ok friends :-) then I wish you a good night for now
ArPharazonV: Namarie Arien!
AriehnV: Namarie!
AriehnV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: back
Eonwe Valar: I think I'll go ahead and bang the gavel, but everyone is welcome to stick around.
Eonwe Valar: *bangs gavel*


VardaValar1: oh pardon
VardaValar1: I was putting up an answering post
VardaValar1: So just Arien and I were posting
VardaValar1: Okies, then. See you guys around another time.
Eonwe Valar: Still thinking about my next part.
VardaValar1: Okie dokie
VardaValar1: Elwing and I are about to take off to see Shrek. We need one more movie today. ;-)
VardaValar1: I'll look in on your post later and see if I can add a one-liner or better. :-)
ArPharazonV: Namarie then!
VardaValar1: Namarie
Eonwe Valar: Have fun :}
VardaValar1: Guaranteed. She's great company!
VardaValar1 has left the room.
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya Menel.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Menelvagor
Eonwe Valar: Welcoem to After-meeting.
Eonwe Valar: Welcome even.
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
ArPharazonV: Varda just left 4 minutes ago, meeting ended just before
Eonwe Valar: Tolkien part was the longest part, I assure you :}
Menelvagor Valar: good :-)
Eonwe Valar: We were discussing the RP.
Eonwe Valar: You'll have to check out the transcript :}
Menelvagor Valar: I will.
Menelvagor Valar: anyways, I'm off to bed.
Menelvagor Valar: just got online to do a few quick things.
Menelvagor Valar: Namarie!
ArPharazonV: allright, Namarie
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Take care, belatedly.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, I'm off. Take care and have fun.
Eonwe Valar: Good night and sleep well.
ArPharazonV: namarie
Eonwe Valar: Read more Tolkien :}
ArPharazonV: *grin*
ArPharazonV: actually!
ArPharazonV: I saw part of the first movie again today :P
Eonwe Valar: :}
ArPharazonV: including your favorite scene at the ford *grin*
Eonwe Valar: The accurate part I hope :}
Eonwe Valar: Arg :}
Eonwe Valar: Take care :}
ArPharazonV: bye!
Eonwe Valar: See you next week or in the RP, whichever comes first :}
ArPharazonV: sure
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