Valar Guild

December 16, 2007 Meeting

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Ar-Pharazon and Varda

Attending: (11)
    Members: AriehnV, ArPharazonV, arwenv1/windofhyperia, Eonwe Valar (presiding), Gil-galad-(V)/Xseanzee disco, GilraenV, GwaihirValar, Maedhros-(V)/RumblePurrLion, Melkorv, VardaValar1
    Friend: crasyboy45

Meeting begins

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RumblePurrLion has entered the room.
RumblePurrLion: Is this the right place?
ArPharazonV: the Valarguild meeting place? yep
RumblePurrLion: Cool :-)
ArPharazonV: the rest should start arriving any minute
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Hail
ArPharazonV: Aiya
RumblePurrLion: Greetings! (Maedhros, here.)
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: haha! That namefits you
VardaValar1: Aiya Eonwe : )
Eonwe Valar: Heya
VardaValar1: Phar is great about having the room open : )
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Opens the curtains, throws wide open the door.
VardaValar1: Aiya Gil-galad : )
Xseanzee disco: heya : )
Xseanzee disco: studying calc right now so i apologize for being afk
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VardaValar1: Hail
arwenv1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: We need someone to handle the Calculus!
Melkorv has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Hail Arwen
crasyboy45: i jsut failled calc
crasyboy45: lol
VardaValar1: Melkor, you made it!
Melkorv: Aiya All
GilraenV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya Melkor. Long time no see.
AriehnV has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Maybe you'll get it the second time through
VardaValar1: Heya Gilraen and Arien : )
crasyboy45: i dont need it for my major so w/e
AriehnV: Aiya all :-)
GilraenV: Aiya folks
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crasyboy45: Long time no hear from, I stopped getting on aim and stuff when college started and now I have a month break.
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Eonwe Valar: Heya Gilraen and Arien.
Eonwe Valar: And anyone else I haven't said heya to.
AriehnV: greetings Eonwe *bows*
VardaValar1: Good deal, nice to get a breather.
Eonwe Valar: afk for a quick moment.
crasyboy45: Yup, so are yall excited about The Hobbit i hear Tolkeins son is going to be watching them better for this one
VardaValar1: Did they decide on a director yet?
crasyboy45: I dont really know, Sorry.
VardaValar1: Awful lot of room to add things to the Hobbit, since JRRT didn't know his Fellowship yet, or the people in it.
RumblePurrLion: One rumor I heard had it being turned into two movies, with the breaking of Dol Guildur being put in as part of the actual story.
Eonwe Valar: back
VardaValar1: Didn't know Thranduil had a son yet or who, and that Bilbo probably met Aragorn at Rivendell as a ten-year old.
VardaValar1: That would give a battle that might make the Five Armies more anti-climatic if they aren't careful.
VardaValar1: Would be something to see though!
ArPharazonV: should be interesting indeed if they're going to add all those as easter eggs or something, little bits of reference to the later books/movies
RumblePurrLion: I'm betting on a Legolas cameo at the very least.
ArPharazonV: btw, when was Gimli born?
VardaValar1: He would have been a son at least, not sure how old
VardaValar1: Gloin's son
ArPharazonV: wonder if they're planning on using any of the same actors
ArPharazonV: Gandalf, Bilbo, Elrond...
VardaValar1: Some were considering not doing it if it was a slam at PJ.
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Eonwe Valar: Ok, ladies and gents, let's begin the meeting.
VardaValar1: Eonwe is unusually free tonight, so he will be chairing this time. :-)
RumblePurrLion has entered the room.
RumblePurrLion: Stupid ESC key.
Eonwe Valar: To expedite this, whisper me any news you have so I can call on you at the appropriate place.
Eonwe Valar: Also, whisper me Tolkien topics starting now :}

Eonwe Valar: Elenn Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: Some of us are done with finals, some of us seem to be studying hard for them :}
Eonwe Valar: I am in the former group :}
VardaValar1: Yay
Melkorv: ...having formerly been in the latter group?? grin
Eonwe Valar: Aye :}
crasyboy45: lo;l
Eonwe Valar: up until Friday :}
Eonwe Valar: Any other member news?
Eonwe Valar: ok, on to Web news:
VardaValar1: Yes
VardaValar1: Member news
VardaValar1: sorry
Eonwe Valar: Go ahead.
VardaValar1: This is the end of the year when we figure out who wants to be on the 2008 roster.
VardaValar1: I also have it rigged now so those of you who say you want to be listed for longer than one year at a time can try to get away with it. : )
VardaValar1: But I still want some contact for that year, ok? ;-)
Eonwe Valar: So you have me under the eternity column then? :}
VardaValar1: You can whisper me here, email, or use the forum
VardaValar1: aww, if you wish.
AriehnV: I ll be there next year hehe, that is if ye want me
VardaValar1: Where is that sideways 8?
VardaValar1: We need our sunshine!
AriehnV: :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: All full members have proven themselves and merely need to say yes.
Melkorv: at this, what is the whisper format?
ArPharazonV: sure, I guess I'll stick around for a few years longer..
VardaValar1: Arien, you are listed for 2008 : )
Eonwe Valar: you can right-click on a person's name and select "IM" from the options there.
VardaValar1: eternity added to Eonwe's ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Or you can select a person's name from the list and then click on the "IM button at the bottom right of your chat window.
Melkorv: Aye, I wish to be listed...where did you say that sideways 8 is?:-D
Eonwe Valar: hehe, thanks :}
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: Melkor marked for eternity. Could be trouble there.
Eonwe Valar: Job security for the good guys :}
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Does that cover membership news? Everyone knows to contact Varda? :}
VardaValar1: Phar marked for lifetime or eternity as requested. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Melkorv: ...trouble? what possible trouble could I possible cause?;-)
ArPharazonV: you could have people like me worshipping you..
Eonwe Valar: The AIM smilies make Melkor look just a liiiitle to innocent :}
Melkorv: lol
Eonwe Valar: *liiiiittle, too
VardaValar1: We know that look, Mel. :-)
Eonwe Valar: Ok, I better keep the meeting going if we've got that taken care of :}
VardaValar1: Mandos is still trying not to make comments about Manwe's letting you out. : )
VardaValar1: Aye, thank you all!
Eonwe Valar: Thank you, Varda, for your 10 years of hard work :}
VardaValar1: *curtsies*
AriehnV: indeed , Varda, great job ?!
VardaValar1: Well worth it
AriehnV: :-)

Eonwe Valar: Web news:
AriehnV has left the room.
Melkorv: Truly a great group to have remained together and active for this long!!
Eonwe Valar: Since I am off, I hope to be fixing the search program over the Christmas break, and perhaps getting some other things done as well.
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe, for your amazing Games Page and zillions of Tolkien Site entries and admin work everywhere.
AriehnV has entered the room.
VardaValar1: The Tolkien site will try to cooperate better with your Search engine work. : )
Eonwe Valar: I do my best *bows*
AriehnV: woops sorry , wrong click#
Eonwe Valar: Happens, Arien :}
VardaValar1: Watch that cliff!
Eonwe Valar: Glad you made it back :}
VardaValar1: Members page now updated, fast-breaking web news.
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
crasyboy45: speedy
VardaValar1: :-)
Eonwe Valar: Varda, your floor for web news :}
VardaValar1: We will be having a new drabble story up this week from Jay of Lasgalen
VardaValar1: This last week was unusually dry of web stuff for us, maybe the holidays.
VardaValar1: Some behind the scenes webwork by us programmers
VardaValar1: That's all I have, Eonwe.
Eonwe Valar: Thanks.
Eonwe Valar: That should do it for Web news then.

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: Anybody do anything besides WoW and LotRO this week?
VardaValar1: Sauron put Rome Total War back on his gaming.
VardaValar1: We've been repairing our second gaming comp slowly
Eonwe Valar: Cool. Should I add that to the Games Page?
ArPharazonV: some Dungeon Siege: Legends of Aranna; and also I've been starting play Populous: The Beginning again
ArPharazonV: not a lot, but I did, so...
Melkorv: I've been curious as to why we haven't seen more of our membership in LotRO? Seems a natural for our guild.
Eonwe Valar: I have the lifetime membership :} But I don't have cable, so if I show up it's usually pretty late where I won't be lagged to oblivion.
VardaValar1: Also true for Elwing who is on dial-up.
Eonwe Valar: Plus, I'm in WoW, maintaining a presence of sorts for us there.
VardaValar1: I agree Melkor, expected more over there.
Eonwe Valar: Our European members can't easily get with us in either WoW or LotRO.
VardaValar1: Some have come in and tried it for a short time, then backed out
Melkorv: understood :-) I dropped my DAoC accounts and have been having a ball back with Valar Guild folks.
Eonwe Valar: Glad to hear it Melkor.
VardaValar1: Irmo and Miriel of Europe have been a major presence in LotRO.
VardaValar1: Melkor is fun as always! : )
Eonwe Valar: Well, since we're already talking about LotRO, let's open up with LotRO.
Eonwe Valar: Anything to report from the LotRO gaming front?
Melkorv: of course it is still developing but all in all they have moved it along at a reasonable pace.
VardaValar1: Orome suggested Monday as our special LotRO day, but it seems that is the day where I am usually not able to come on, so it never really took off.
VardaValar1: Aye, lots of new updates and fun all the time, improvements.
VardaValar1: They have frequent Dev chats for any who want to come.
VardaValar1: They have bug reportability, and forums for suggestions.
VardaValar1: and even read and act on them
VardaValar1: Maedhros, any LotRO comments?
Melkorv: ...and excellent response times on bug reports when they effect game play.
RumblePurrLion: Well, I don't have a lot of MMO experience to compare it to, but I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I've been very impressed with their efforts to stick to the lore, and include "easter eggs" for Tolkien geeks. :-)
RumblePurrLion: e.g., the Gramsfoot goblins in the Shire, based on a passing reference to Bullroarer Took's adventures.
VardaValar1: Aye, like Muddyfoot's Hill : )
RumblePurrLion: The Yule quest, with Gaffer Gamgee showing up Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, was a fun little bit of bonus material. :-)
VardaValar1: *like
Eonwe Valar: I'm only lvl 15, but I enjoy my Champion :}
Melkorv: ..and I got a nice yule tree, grin
VardaValar1: We had to get a petition together to stop her [Lobelia npc] from running the Yule party. And were saved at the last minute. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: We also are trying to collect enough trees, one per member, to plant a forest of them for Yule in front of the Kinhouse. : )
VardaValar1: They go well with our Dwarf area there.
Eonwe Valar: Cool :}
ArPharazonV: a forest? does that remain permanently then?
VardaValar1: no
VardaValar1: It is just for Yule
Melkorv: nay, you can change decor at will
VardaValar1: We can even pick up paint and reapply it : )
RumblePurrLion: It's just trees put into the yard "slots" ... eventually statues and such will go back out there.
VardaValar1: We keep a change of deco in our kin storage chests
VardaValar1: Seasonal
ArPharazonV: heh
VardaValar1: We had pumpkins and harvest statues
VardaValar1: We have statues available from elf lands and Arnorian ruins
Eonwe Valar: For those interested, the movie trilogy is on TNT right now :} Looks like it's at TT.
VardaValar1: lots of things from many places, even crafting and taxidermy. : )
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VardaValar1: Thanks Eonwe : )
RumblePurrLion has entered the room.
RumblePurrLion: *grumbleESCbuttongrumble*
Eonwe Valar: Shall we move on to WoW now? :}
VardaValar1: *chuckle*
VardaValar1: Aye, done except that we quest a lot and have other guilds that also work with us. : )
ArPharazonV: the movie trilogy, hm?
ArPharazonV: they showed the first part on tv here in the Netherlands yesterday evening
Eonwe Valar: yep
Melkorv: honest, i didn't reprogram his keyboard with the escape button under the e
ArPharazonV: and already said the second part will be shown next week
VardaValar1: Surrrre you didn't.
ArPharazonV: so I assume they're going to air the entire trilogy
VardaValar1: Or face viewer wrath.
ArPharazonV: hehe
Eonwe Valar: They've shown the movies on "regular" tv channels here for the last couple of years.
Eonwe Valar: Downside is all the darn commercials.
VardaValar1: Aye, it was playing here on free TV last week.
Eonwe Valar: Of course, I can always watch it without commercials... :}
Melkorv: this is the first time I've seen it on non-pay
ArPharazonV: in this case it's showing on one of the first 3 tv channels
Melkorv: but I depend on commercials so I can...uh, nevermind
ArPharazonV: which means there are no commercials during the movie
Eonwe Valar: Ok, WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Lothar: I'm afraid by the time I got home Friday night, I just wanted to go to bed, so I have no report, though it looked like a couple of people had been in.
Eonwe Valar: They are of course doing the Greatfather Winter stuff now. Unfortunately, the only new thing they have is a recipe sent to people lvl 65 and above.
Eonwe Valar: Hot Spiced Cider I believe it was.
ArPharazonV: I haven't had any recipe yet... made a ticket with some other people, and got a response that they're looking into problems with the tickets
Eonwe Valar: Good luck trying to catch the Greench before someone else wipes him out :}
VardaValar1: I'll have to check it out. Finally hit 65 ;-)
ArPharazonV: ehrr with the recipes, sorry
RumblePurrLion: Hmm?
Eonwe Valar: Congrats Varda :}
VardaValar1: They're talking about World of WarCraft
Eonwe Valar: Don't suppose you were there Friday to have something on the gaming that night? :}
RumblePurrLion: Is the Greench someone else, then?
Melkorv: folks, I've got an incoming call...been great seeing you all and I'll try to get on for more of the meetings. Namarie my friends.
Eonwe Valar: The Abominable Greench is an NPC that spawn during the Feast of Winter Veil for a seasonal quest.
VardaValar1: Namarie Melkor!
Eonwe Valar: Take care melkor :}
Eonwe Valar: Good to see you again :}
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
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VardaValar1: Rumble is also known as the Gneech, excellent webcomic man!
RumblePurrLion: Heh. :-) My primary internet handle is "The Gneech," so I got confused. I'll hush now. :-X
AriehnV: ok Melkor cya around :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: "Greench" is a play on "the Grinch" as in, "How the Grinch Stole Christmas"
Eonwe Valar: One of the classic Christmas shows.
AriehnV: Never heard of that one
VardaValar1: A Dr. Seuss story.
Eonwe Valar: It's a cartoon, a movie, and a book, the first two based on a CHildren's book by Dr. Suess.
Eonwe Valar: *Seuss
Eonwe Valar: The cartoon is alot closer to the book than the movie. Of course, it helps that the cartoon can be short and still be watched :}
Eonwe Valar: The cartoon is the classic, the movie is amusing but was created within the last few years.
VardaValar1: Became very popular in a hurry.
Eonwe Valar: Jim Carrey as the Grinch if you happen to be a fan of his work, and probably worth a watch even if you're not.
Eonwe Valar: Anyway, that's what the "Greench" is a reference to.
Eonwe Valar: Uldaman:
Eonwe Valar: Actually, let's do Argent Dawn first, and Arien also has some URLs for us. Your floor, Arien.
AriehnV: thank you :-)]
GwaihirValar has entered the room.
GwaihirValar: hello
AriehnV: hi Gwaihir :-) you just come in time for ad report
Eonwe Valar: Heya Gwaihir. Caught the WoW Argent Dawn report.
GwaihirValar: hehe
VardaValar1: URL's you had for us too. : )
AriehnV: On thursday Urwendi was playing with a few ogres near Sylvanaar in Blades edge mountain when she stumbled across a certain druid
AriehnV: it turned out to be Morningsong , Menelvagors incarnation
AriehnV: So the two grouped together for a bit , got the weopons of the caged exarch
AriehnV: stole ogre beer and planted some banners
AriehnV: Morning was a bit in a hurry as usual , so we had to end our cooperation and thus endeth my official report
AriehnV: only thing to add is that i am back to 70 :-D
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :}
AriehnV: The url Varda mentioned is a beautiful undead blizz video accompanying queen sylvanas lament that you can hear when you enter the royal quarter in undercity
Eonwe Valar: Ah
AriehnV: the url is
Eonwe Valar: I believe I've seen that video, aye.
AriehnV: it is a bit sad, shows the inviasion of the scuurge into lordaeron i think but its still very well made
Eonwe Valar: Aye, the Scourge invasion of both Lodaeron and Quel'Thalas are sad.
Eonwe Valar: *Lordaeron
Eonwe Valar: It is a beautiful song, though.
Eonwe Valar: If you haven't played a horde character for any other reason, there's one to get to about 15ish for you.
AriehnV: thus endeth my report hehe and horde is fun
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Arien.
Eonwe Valar: Now to Uldaman server:
VardaValar1: Elwing emailed a short report on Uldaman:
VardaValar1: "Was on Uldaman a short while Wed night (I'll probably not be gaming as much until Christmas is over, what with shopping and other distractions :-)
VardaValar1: I chatted a bit with Nynnave (sp?) but did not spy/catch other guildies/guild-friends on just during that time.
VardaValar1: Always seems like a negative report, but there's always a good chance I just miss some players.
VardaValar1: Just got my last bit of holiday shopping done, except for something (I hope) arriving in mail next week; still got quite a bit of wrapping to do yet.
VardaValar1: I'm sure enjoying the cooler weather! (especially when I can get inside and have hot cocoa or such :-)
VardaValar1: Hopy all y'all are in good spirits and health - cheers!"
VardaValar1: Back to Varda :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: The person she refers to is Theodwyn-(V).
VardaValar1: I've been on too, but not at the right time to catch either, as it is when they work.
VardaValar1: End report. : )
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Elwing and Varda :}

Eonwe Valar: Ok ladies and gents, time to jump into Tolkien, so we need topic or we can begin trivia like we've done the last couple of weeks :}
Eonwe Valar: Actually, if everyone's willing, let's do trivia :}
VardaValar1: How many are live right now?
Eonwe Valar: Looked like you all were having fun the last couple of weeks :}
Eonwe Valar: I am live, of course :}
RumblePurrLion: First time here ... how does it work? Is it just jump-in?
VardaValar1: We did : )
ArPharazonV: I'm here, but will need to leave soon
VardaValar1: We have been trying several methods.
VardaValar1: Then we better start fast!
Eonwe Valar: Someone asks a question, whoever answers it correctly get to ask the next.
AriehnV: *yawns sleepily but iam here lol
VardaValar1: We also had a system of doing the questions by people in alphabetical order
VardaValar1: since some of us were too fast on the keyboard.
Eonwe Valar: ah, that can work too.
RumblePurrLion: Hee :-)
VardaValar1: (ten-fingers ftw)
Eonwe Valar: I remember that trivia a few year back with Gwaihir and I as respective team captains :}
Eonwe Valar: all the fast-flying letters :}
VardaValar1: If we have enough people sometime, we can do teams again : )
ArPharazonV: I remember a trivia bot on some yahoo-thingy we did? hosted by a guildmember?
VardaValar1: It is still going.
VardaValar1: Srekal aka Hyarion has it
ArPharazonV: ah, right
VardaValar1: The Tolkien Gateway maker.
VardaValar1: Great fun : )
ArPharazonV: I remember winning all the time because I typed with 10 fingers and neglected punctuation and capitalization :-)
VardaValar1: hehe - aye
Eonwe Valar: I remember it being too forgiving :}
ArPharazonV: pff, it was forgiving enough ;-)
VardaValar1: For us it is, but it was for non-Valar too. : )
Eonwe Valar: Aldarion for Eldarion though? Tsk.
VardaValar1: Everyone live for trivia, please type Aye
AriehnV: aye
RumblePurrLion: Is it all in-book lore, or can it be things like "how many hobbits has Iam Holm played?"
GwaihirValar: I'm live-ish ;-)
RumblePurrLion: Aye
VardaValar1: That is a different person
VardaValar1: Aye
Eonwe Valar: All from LotR, unless everyone who's participating has read further than that.
GwaihirValar: I remember the trivia for the anniversary back in my first year here..
VardaValar1: LotR is best to keep everyone participating better.
RumblePurrLion: 'k
Eonwe Valar: LotR is what we actually require people to have read, so it acts as a base of knowledge.
VardaValar1: We may have a special no-holds barred one. ;-)
VardaValar1: Did Giles really defeat Chrysophilax?
GwaihirValar: who was it who was hosting that one Eo? Was it Irmo?
VardaValar1: What did Niggle paint?
Eonwe Valar: Ouch, it's been so long since I read Farmer Giles,.. I don't remember :}
AriehnV: hehe, he managed pretending *grin*
Eonwe Valar: Now Niggle I remember :}
VardaValar1: So what did he paint? : )
Eonwe Valar: Well, it was a tree as I recall :}
VardaValar1: aye!
VardaValar1: What survived of the painting?
Eonwe Valar: Then the painting got burnt in a fire or some such, and all that was left was a leaf.
Eonwe Valar: Hence to title of that particular story :}
VardaValar1: Sorry, those were just fun examples, not the real trivia game. But Eonwe's right on the leaf, and Arien on the pretending by Giles. : )
Eonwe Valar: *hence the.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, one more time for the record: who is here to participate in the trivia?
VardaValar1: Here
RumblePurrLion: I will :-)
AriehnV: probably me for a bit , i ll have to go soon
VardaValar1: (luckily she and Phar start with A)
Eonwe Valar: We'll use Alphabetical Order (by Guild name, of course :})
GwaihirValar: I will be here-ish ;-)
ArPharazonV: here, same as Arien, aye
Eonwe Valar: Phar starts with a P :} the title "Ar" shouldn't count :}
VardaValar1: All questions get posted on the News. : )
VardaValar1: lol
VardaValar1: But it's an excuse since he has to go. Could make him use a proper Tar.
ArPharazonV: Tar would make me even later :-)
VardaValar1: Tar-Calion : )
Eonwe Valar: Fine, I'll let it slide,.. this time :}
AriehnV: true enough though, its a short form of a title i think?
VardaValar1: Well, ok.
ArPharazonV: Calion in Tar-Calion might work, though
Eonwe Valar: Ar is essentially marking him as king.
VardaValar1: Ar was defiance against the Valar. Should have been using Tar for the title.
AriehnV: /
VardaValar1: Arien is the first to ask a question then?
ArPharazonV: honestly, Tar-Pharazon doesn't sound right anyway..
VardaValar1: hehe, thus Tar-Calion.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's begin at Arien.
VardaValar1: Tar-Feather.
Eonwe Valar: Hehe
AriehnV: *chuckles*
Eonwe Valar: Uh Oh,.. Gimli just said "Toss me!"
Eonwe Valar: And "Don't tell the Elf."
VardaValar1: hehe
ArPharazonV: hehe, he said "Nobody tosses a dwarf" yesterday
AriehnV: *grins broadly*
AriehnV: so here is my question
Eonwe Valar: My official list for the trivia is (In order) Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Gwaihir (if he's here at the time), Maedhros. That everyone?
VardaValar1: Hey!
Eonwe Valar: er, Varda too! That was my fault.
VardaValar1: :-)
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VardaValar1: Arwen!
AriehnV: now look , how innocent eonwe looks
AriehnV: ;-)
Eonwe Valar: *shines up halo*
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VardaValar1: Gwaihir says he seems to have crashed
Eonwe Valar: Ouch
AriehnV: what game did gimly and legolas play , who won and by what difference?
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GwaihirValar: that was unusual
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VardaValar1: Please repeat when they both return
ArPharazonV: *constrains himself from mentioning the drinking game in the movie*
Eonwe Valar: Welcome back Gwaihir and Gilraen.
GilraenV: thanks! looks like out internet blipped.
GilraenV: *our
Eonwe Valar: Ouch.
Eonwe Valar: Oh, are we whispering or just bluring out the answer?
AriehnV: ok i repeat the question
Eonwe Valar: *blurting
AriehnV: what game did gimly and legolas play , who won and by what difference?
Eonwe Valar: I guess whispering by the lack of answers jumping into the chat room :}
AriehnV: blurt out i think is better
VardaValar1: Counting orc kills at Helm's Deep, Gimli won by one orc at 43.
Eonwe Valar: oh, ok.
RumblePurrLion: They had a contest of which one could kill more orcs; I seem to recall that Gimli won by one orc.
ArPharazonV: 42-43 does sound right
AriehnV: both right but Varda was first
ArPharazonV: awright, my turn then?
Eonwe Valar: Yep
VardaValar1: Blurting out prevents others from giving it a try, I fear.
AriehnV: ah oki then whisper i dont mind
VardaValar1: But then the questioner gets to tell us the winning answer.
VardaValar1: Aye, Phar, go ahead. : )
ArPharazonV: allright, consists of several parts... what was Arwen's mother's name, who were her parents, and what happened to her in the end?
Eonwe Valar: I would encourage everyone interested to try, blurt out or not. You never knwo when you might be the only one with the right answer :}
VardaValar1: true
VardaValar1: Celebrian, Galadriel and Celeborn, sailed West.
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AriehnV: Arwens mother was Celebrian , #
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ArPharazonV: Eonwe got it right, but after Varda, but with more detail about the third part
VardaValar1: Was I supposed to blurt. Got it lost.
VardaValar1: I was trying to be fast. : )
RumblePurrLion: I'm beginning to really hate that ESC key.
VardaValar1: CAn write the article if you like. ;-)
AriehnV: her parents varda mentioned but i am not sure whether both sailed west actually
ArPharazonV: very well, Varda, I was looking for more details on the third part... why did she sail west? :-)
RumblePurrLion: She did; she was poisoned by orcs, wasn't she?
VardaValar1: I can tell about the parents too, if you want.
Eonwe Valar: I whispered, heh. Thought we agreed for whisper :}
VardaValar1: ok, whispering next time.
Eonwe Valar: Varda could recite the Encyclopedia methinks, after so much work on it :}
ArPharazonV: haha
ArPharazonV: very well, she was captured and poisoned by Orcs, freed by her sons... and then sailed west indeedy, so I guess both Eonwe and Varda have it right, and around the same time even
VardaValar1: Celebrian was on her way to visit her parents in Lothlorien with a party from Rivendell, but they were waylaid by Orcs, the first group to make a real attack so it was unexpected.
ArPharazonV: Eonwe Valar: Calabrian. Galadriel and Celeborn. She went west after being captured by orcs and rescued by her sons.Eonwe Valar: *Celebrian
VardaValar1: She was severely traumatized before being rescued, and never recovered, so she needed to sail West.
VardaValar1: Ok, sons were Elladan and Elrohir. : )
VardaValar1: twins.
ArPharazonV: they were *nod*
Eonwe Valar: If Varda got it before me, I'd give her the point :}
VardaValar1: Galadriel sailed West with Elrond.
ArPharazonV: well, that's all the detail anyone could want...
ArPharazonV: and she did, I think
ArPharazonV: I believe Celeborn sailed West as well, but some years later
VardaValar1: Celeborn stayed in Southern Mirkwood annexed by Lorien for a time, then with the twins in Rivendell before sailing West.
RumblePurrLion: Yeah, Celeborn lurked. :-)
ArPharazonV: and with him the last living memory of the First Age :-)
ArPharazonV: weell, I'll be saving and sending
AriehnV: ok folks i ll accomany phara
Eonwe Valar: Ok Phar :} Take care :}
VardaValar1: hehe - lurked. Celeborn was Sindarin, born in Middle-earth, and it was home to him, unlike Galadriel who was born in Valinor and missed home, last of the Noldor Exiles.
AriehnV: time to go and get up early
VardaValar1: Thanks : )
Eonwe Valar: Take care as well Arien :}
ArPharazonV: btw, small note, I should be exalted with the Netherwing faction in WoW by this time tomorrow!
RumblePurrLion: Namarie!
VardaValar1: Good playing with you!
AriehnV: namarie :-) Mara lome!
Eonwe Valar: Congrats in advance then :}
VardaValar1: Yay Ar-Pharazon the Exalted!
Eonwe Valar: Sleep well both of you :}
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VardaValar1: Mara lome : )
ArPharazonV: that'll be my... I think.. 21th exalted faction?
ArPharazonV: could be 20th
VardaValar1: Popular guy.
ArPharazonV: sure am
Eonwe Valar: I'd settle for Exalted with the Argent Dawn and that being useful :}
ArPharazonV: saved
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's see, I believe it's my turn to ask a question,..
VardaValar1: crasyboy45 is live
Eonwe Valar: Ok, would you like to join in the LotR trivia, crasyboy?
GwaihirValar: I'm sorry actually, plans have changed, I think I'm gonna go take a nap... feeling a little tired now.
Eonwe Valar: Sleep well Gwaihir.
VardaValar1: Roost well, Gwaihir. : )
RumblePurrLion: Farewell :-)
Eonwe Valar: Ok, I'm going to ask one of my favorite trivia questions.
VardaValar1: *cringe*
Eonwe Valar: How many times were the Valar mentioned in LotR?
RumblePurrLion: ...
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RumblePurrLion: You mean like Frodo shouting out "Elbereth!" or...?
Eonwe Valar: No
Eonwe Valar: The number of times "the Valar" are referred to.
Eonwe Valar: Not a specific Vala or Valie, the entire group.
ArPharazonV: transcript is sent, be sure to save the rest of this trivia, Varda!
VardaValar1: Thanks and will do!
Eonwe Valar: Phar got it :}
ArPharazonV: ooh, really now..
VardaValar1: Yay Phar!
Eonwe Valar: It was 3 :}
ArPharazonV: *cheer*
crasyboy45: In which book does the character Tom Bombadil seen? :-)
Eonwe Valar: They are:
ArPharazonV: I'll be damned if I know when those times were, but I recalled the answer was 3 from previous times you mentioned or asked that
RumblePurrLion: Heh. :-) I couldn't remember if they were actually referred to specifically at all.
crasyboy45: apear lol
Eonwe Valar: hol on Crasyboy, we're still on this question :}
Eonwe Valar: *hold
crasyboy45: sorry
VardaValar1: Thought we were done too, pardon.
Eonwe Valar: There is one mention during the Coronation of Aragorn.
Eonwe Valar: I wanted to give the mentions so that you can check them.
VardaValar1: Thanks
ArPharazonV: I'm afraid I will have to read them in the transcript
ArPharazonV: Namarie all!
Eonwe Valar: There is one mention during the charge of the Rohirrim onto the fields of Pelennor.
VardaValar1: Ok : )
Eonwe Valar: The third time it is used by the Rangers of Ithilien.
ArPharazonV: *waves byebye and goes back to his Cave* goodnight all
Eonwe Valar: "May the Valar turn them(the Mumakil) aside!"
Eonwe Valar: Take care Phar :}
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Eonwe Valar: Bonus points for anyone who finds a reference I missed, heh :}
Eonwe Valar: Let see, who's turn was it for the next question?
RumblePurrLion: crasyboy45 asked which book Tom Bombadil appeared in.
Eonwe Valar: ok.
Eonwe Valar: I guess we all saw that question then? :}
Eonwe Valar: Or would we like it repeated?
crasyboy45: In which book did Tom Bombadil first apear?
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
Eonwe Valar: Let us know who whispered the correct answer to you first :}
crasyboy45: varda
crasyboy45: Fellowship of the ring
crasyboy45: but rumble answered it the first time
crasyboy45: lol
RumblePurrLion: O:-) Just to get in on the ground floor! ;-)
VardaValar1: Go Maedhros!
Eonwe Valar: hehe :}
Eonwe Valar: It's your turn to ask a question now, Maedhros :}
RumblePurrLion: Okay. We all know Eowyn disguised herself as a man to go to war. What false name did she use? Bonus points if you can also tell what it means.
RumblePurrLion: All answers in?
RumblePurrLion: Guess so!
Eonwe Valar: I got my answer in :}
RumblePurrLion: Eonwe beat Varda by just a few seconds with the correct answer, "Dernhelm." Nobody guessed the bonus, however. "Dern" means "secret" or "hidden," (as in Derndingle, the Hidden Hollow), and "helm" is of course, helmet.
VardaValar1: I was stumped on Dern, thanks. : )
Eonwe Valar: As was I :}
RumblePurrLion: I'm a bit of a linguistics nerd. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Excellent. We have a language section too, feel free to jump into it. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: All yours, Varda :}
VardaValar1: Thanks
VardaValar1: Where was Aragorn's mother while Aragorn was growing up at Rivendell as Elrond's foster son?
RumblePurrLion: Wow, toughie!
Eonwe Valar: Aye,..
VardaValar1: Well, Gilraen's in the room, if afk, so... :-)
VardaValar1: This is almost a Grant's Tomb question.
VardaValar1: Eonwe got it
VardaValar1: She lived in Rivendell too.
Eonwe Valar: Hehe
RumblePurrLion: Heh. :-) Tricky.
crasyboy45: that was a tricky one
Eonwe Valar: One of those questions, apparently :}
VardaValar1: Once Aragorn was old enough, she went back to her people to die.
VardaValar1: But she stayed for him.
crasyboy45: such a lovely life
VardaValar1: She wanted to be with her husband, Arathorn, who passed on (orcs killed him) when Aragorn was 2.
VardaValar1: So that seems to be all of us? : )
Eonwe Valar: Yep
Eonwe Valar: Another round, or call it here?
RumblePurrLion: I'm up for it.
VardaValar1: The meeting has now gone 2 hours, could call it here.
Eonwe Valar: Wow, two hours already.
VardaValar1: The enduring ones can stay and call it After-meeting? : )
VardaValar1: Time flies : )
Eonwe Valar: *bangs gavel* those who want to escape can escape :}
Eonwe Valar: I think we're down to 4 people
VardaValar1: Fly free!
VardaValar1: crasy, Eonwe, Maedhros, Varda?
crasyboy45: i have a question
VardaValar1: Fire : )
RumblePurrLion: Go for it. :-)
crasyboy45: When in The Hobbit did bilbo name his sword?
Eonwe Valar: After fighting the spiders in Mirkwood.
crasyboy45: rumble got it first
crasyboy45: closely followed by varda
VardaValar1: I'm impressed
RumblePurrLion: 8-)
Eonwe Valar: Oh, that was a trivia question, heh
crasyboy45: after the mirkwood spider fight
Eonwe Valar: My turn for the next question looks like.
crasyboy45: yup
Eonwe Valar: hmm
Eonwe Valar: Bring to me a shrubbery! oops, wrong quest(ion)..
VardaValar1: Ni!
crasyboy45: lol
RumblePurrLion: Which one IS the mightiest tree in the forest?
Eonwe Valar: Name for me the trees that grow in Lothlorien, of which the new Party Tree Sam planted is.
Eonwe Valar: All answers in?
crasyboy45: i dont have one lol
Eonwe Valar: Last call, pencils down in 10 seconds :}
VardaValar1: make one up, can be funny : )
crasyboy45: lol
Eonwe Valar: Pencils down :}
VardaValar1: Maybe we should get a point for humor. : )
Eonwe Valar: Varda got it. It was mallorn.
crasyboy45: lol
VardaValar1: Could add up!
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: *curtsies*
Eonwe Valar: All yours, Maedhros :}
RumblePurrLion: Hmm...
crasyboy45: :-)
RumblePurrLion: This one is a bit more like a riddle, but should be fairly easy.
RumblePurrLion: Gray, White, Brown, _____, _____
RumblePurrLion: Hmm, tougher than I thought. :-) Guess again, all?
VardaValar1: Got any more of a clue on that?
RumblePurrLion: Look at how many items are on the list.
RumblePurrLion: Varda got it! "Blue, Blue" -- the five wizards! Gray (Gandalf), White (Saruman), Brown (Radagast), and the two Blue Wizards.
VardaValar1: I'm so bluuuue...
crasyboy45: huh
crasyboy45: where is that referecnced agian
crasyboy45: lol
VardaValar1: Not really a LotR question.
RumblePurrLion: It was in one of the appendices, wasn't it?
RumblePurrLion: If not, my mistake. :-)
Eonwe Valar: I believe it was mentioned briefly in the appendices.
VardaValar1: We had to stop counting the Appendices as LotR, because they are published separately in Europe.
crasyboy45: hehe np i wouldnt have nown it any way
Eonwe Valar: There is a reference by Saruman of the Staffs of the Five Wizards.
VardaValar1: but yes.
VardaValar1: True.
RumblePurrLion: Ah, I didn't know that.
Eonwe Valar: *Staves
RumblePurrLion: I came at a lot of my lore knowledge through MERP, so I sometimes forget what's in the actual books, and what's in the later releases.
Eonwe Valar: The Encyclopedia is a pretty good resource. We expect peopel to have references, so you can always check what they wrote :}
Eonwe Valar: The Valar Guild Encyclopedia, to make sure I'm clear :}
VardaValar1: All articles in it have to be referenced from original material and says which books.
RumblePurrLion: Had I known the appendices didn't count as part of LotR, I would have come up with a different question. :-)
VardaValar1: You couldn't know, and Eonwe said your question worked. : )
VardaValar1: Five, and all the colors given were from LotR, and the other two not given, well done.
RumblePurrLion: :-)
Eonwe Valar: Aye, there is material in LotR from which to draw the question.
VardaValar1: Question is valid.
Eonwe Valar: Varda's turn :}
VardaValar1: ok : )
VardaValar1: What place do the white boats sail from into the West, carrying the Elves (mostly Elves) to Valinor?
VardaValar1: First was: RumblePurrLion: Gray Havens
crasyboy45: rumble always gets them
VardaValar1: Grey Havens for the English spelling Tolkien used.
VardaValar1: He's a fast typist too. : )
RumblePurrLion: O:-)
crasyboy45: hehe
VardaValar1: Eonwe would be our usual winner without speedy Phar here. : )
VardaValar1: Can we survive another round? : )
Eonwe Valar: hehe
crasyboy45: i got to go
VardaValar1: Eonwe got it right too
crasyboy45: tidying up the shelvs
VardaValar1: Ok, we are overtime
Eonwe Valar: Ok crasy, take care.
VardaValar1: Thanks for playing!
Eonwe Valar: Aye :}
RumblePurrLion: Take it easy! :-)
crasyboy45: have a good night
Eonwe Valar: Sleep well :}
crasyboy45: ill be here next week :-)
crasyboy45: thanks :-)
VardaValar1: You're in CST too, crasy?
VardaValar1: Central Standard Time
crasyboy45: cst?
crasyboy45: no ma'am
crasyboy45: im in eastern
crasyboy45: i was in cst
crasyboy45: but i moved to NY
VardaValar1: ah, ok - so about 7:40 for you.
crasyboy45: yup
VardaValar1: I remember you from meeting you in Texas : )
crasyboy45: just have to clean up a bit more and work on a psyc reveis
VardaValar1: Good evening!
crasyboy45: reveis
crasyboy45: review
VardaValar1: Sounds like a lot! Another day then : )
crasyboy45: night
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Eonwe Valar: I think we should call it here on trivia :}
VardaValar1: Aye : )
RumblePurrLion: All righty. :-)
VardaValar1: Thanks for playing!
Eonwe Valar: T'was fun :}
RumblePurrLion: 'twas fun!
VardaValar1: Think you'll be back in LotRO any tonight, Maedhros?
VardaValar1: You have tons to do, I know. : )
VardaValar1: I'm looking forward to your book.
RumblePurrLion: Probably later on -- gotta finish tomorrow's Suburban Jungle first.
VardaValar1: cool : )
VardaValar1: I'm caught up on Never Never, but need to finish going through the Suburban Jungle. : )
VardaValar1: I should work some too.
VardaValar1: Namarie!
RumblePurrLion: Farewell!
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Eonwe Valar: Think I might do some WoW, but don't know on what char yet.
VardaValar1: Fun to have choices : )
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Bilbo has been working on his Hirmuile
VardaValar1: Burglar
Eonwe Valar: Cool
VardaValar1: He tries to keep in the Valar channel
VardaValar1: Did we ever do the Lothar report?
Eonwe Valar: I didn't have anything to say really.
VardaValar1: ><
Eonwe Valar: I asked if there was anything to report, got no answer so assumed there was nothing.
VardaValar1: My family plays a lot on Lothar, not necessarily when the meeting time is.
Eonwe Valar: I pretty much went straight to bed when I got home Friday. Long long day.
VardaValar1: Friday Bilbo left earlier than usual, usher at a wedding of a friend. : ) Was also Groomsman, but they needed ushers.
VardaValar1: He said Elwing was on
VardaValar1: I couldn't bring myself to leave LotRO, heh.
VardaValar1: Did check with Bilbo to see if you were there though. : )
VardaValar1: Gets harder and harder to leave LotRO, bad me.
Eonwe Valar: You're having fun, and that's good.
VardaValar1: Well, some chores, maybe LotRO.
VardaValar1: Also a lot of people wanting me for this or that in LotRO, must learn to say no. : )
Eonwe Valar: What would be the point of draggin a hundred people from LotRO to WoW, if none of them had fun?
VardaValar1: I have fun in WoW too. : )
VardaValar1: I did play during the week some. : )
Eonwe Valar: I noticed that :}
VardaValar1: You did! cool. : )
VardaValar1: Tuor was wondering if we still played
VardaValar1: and Arathorn
Eonwe Valar: I got some time on my Priest yesterday. Got him to 55.
VardaValar1: They were considering popping in
VardaValar1: wow!
VardaValar1: Congrats : )
VardaValar1: Arwen is on a lot, says if we raided she'd be with us. : )
VardaValar1: We might be able to fill in a slot or two on others' raids, as we are getting to that point.
VardaValar1: or maybe Arwen or Bilbo could help us find people to fill in small raids, experienced.
VardaValar1: My family can now run 3 people. : )
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :}
VardaValar1: You and Dracxil.
VardaValar1: Arwen.
VardaValar1: That's a LotRO Fellowship!
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Ok, namarie this time!