Valar Guild

October 22, 2006 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00)
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Ar-Pharazon-(V) and Varda-(Valar)

Attending (15):
    Members: Ancalagon-(V)/Sarujil, ArathornValar, ArPharazonV, Arwen V1, AuSteinM-(TV)/AuSteinM, Eonwe Valar, FladrifV, Gil-galad-(V)/Xseanzee disco, Gilraen-(V)/Star of Phaet, Lungorthin-(Valar)/sauronjag, Menelvagor Valar, Orodreth V/Oessala, VardaValar1 (presiding)
    Visitor: crasyboy45, Srekal86

Meeting begins
    New Full Member: Dis-(V)
    Names for using in games
    The Hobbit

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
VardaValar1: Hail :-)
Eonwe Valar: Heya :}
Arwen V1: =D
FladrifV: *bow*
VardaValar1: *curtsy*
Srekal86 has entered the room.
crasyboy45 has entered the room.
crasyboy45: aloha
Star of Phaet has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Welcome :-)
Star of Phaet: Aiya
Srekal86: 'lo
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
AuSteinM has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya
AuSteinM: Aiya
ArPharazonV: I'll be right there, just going to the inn
FladrifV: sleepy already?
VardaValar1: That from a sleepy ent. : )
AuSteinM: You're staying at the inn? I'm sure somebody local would be glad to let you stay with them
Oessala has entered the room.
Orodreth V has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: no, but better than waking up tomorrow amid 5 respawns :-)
VardaValar1: Aiya Orodreth : )
VardaValar1: I came back in a wolves den yesterday. Talk about adrenaline : )
Arwen V1: teehee, I have to restart my comp because I just finished installing wow =)
VardaValar1: Wonderful, Arwen!
VardaValar1: See you back soon, we hope!
Arwen V1: and my computer seems to be working well this time!
Arwen V1: so brb!
VardaValar1: woot!
Arwen V1 has left the room.
AuSteinM: ...for now ;-)
VardaValar1: Trying to unjinx her, AuStein? ;-)
AuSteinM: If only there were such a cure
Sarujil has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Hold your mouth right is what my in-laws tell me. Great folk. : )
ArPharazonV: 71 minion's scourgestones away from my chromatic mantle of the dawn! then I'll never have to bother with those silly stones again
VardaValar1: Good luck!
FladrifV: next patch, next patch *grin*
ArPharazonV: :-)
VardaValar1: Next alt
FladrifV: both!
ArPharazonV: next alt is more likely, yeah...
Eonwe Valar: Until lvl 70 when you get better gear :}
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: Expansion threatens, er, is coming.
ArathornValar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Of course at that point you'll be able to farm for Invader's Scourgestones as easily as you do Minion's scourgestone now :}
ArPharazonV: hehe
FladrifV: the day that I have my alt at 60...bam expansion...
VardaValar1: Aiya Arathorn, well-timed. Just about to start
Eonwe Valar: It's crazily at $70 for the Collector's Edition though.
VardaValar1: Too right, Fladrif
ArathornValar: was helping Grym on our Horde server
VardaValar1: Tell him to come in too. ; )
ArathornValar: he had to go not feeling well
VardaValar1: aww, sorry to hear that
VardaValar1: Only saw him a few minutes in WoW before, couldn't chat
VardaValar1: We'll catch him some time when he feels better
VardaValar1: Ok, folks. Please help me watch for others coming in
VardaValar1: Many don't know how to enter the room
ArathornValar: I usually use a window to enter a room, but thats just me :-P
VardaValar1: For those reading the transcript, invite your name, type in the name of the chat room at the bottom where they default all those numbers as a name.
AuSteinM: Who needs doors when you can come in through the drop ceiling?
VardaValar1: That's a good way, thanks Arathorn.
VardaValar1: Right, AuStein!
Arwen V1 has entered the room.
ArathornValar: or the skylight
VardaValar1: Arwen, all installed now? : )
VardaValar1: I just come in on a beam of light. If none, I'll make one. Photons are good things.
Arwen V1: yes, just have to run the patches =P
FladrifV: 3 days later...
VardaValar1: That should give you time to finish the meeting. : )
AuSteinM: Oooh, I'm not so fond of skylights...a friend entered a building through one accidentally last year and had quite the stay in the hospital
VardaValar1: Glad he survived
AuSteinM: This is true
VardaValar1: I happily missed going through one. Bet he'll be very careful of them now. Good luck on his recovery.

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership News:
VardaValar1: I'm very happy to report that we have a new Full Member!
VardaValar1: Her name is Dis-(V), after the only dwarf lady named in Tolkien of whom we are aware.
VardaValar1: She is a traveling RN, and a very nice person, whom you will all surely enjoy meeting. : )
ArPharazonV: RN?
VardaValar1: She emailed asking for our IM, (AIM), which I just answered, and hopes to come in.
Arwen V1: registered nurse
ArPharazonV: I see
VardaValar1: Registered Nurse, thank you fast-typing Arwen. : )
VardaValar1: That is a high title for a nurse, very good.
VardaValar1: She is a very active gamer.
VardaValar1: Her favorite character is Bilbo, for his imperfections and resilience.
VardaValar1: Dis also showed me a problem that many of you may be having.
VardaValar1: Naming in games,
ArathornValar: patches?
VardaValar1: especially if a person has a less-used character in Tolkien,
VardaValar1: can be tough.
Star of Phaet: Aye
VardaValar1: Her name is only listed as Dis, for instance.
VardaValar1: It is not translated in Tolkien as far as I know, but
VardaValar1: we do know that in mythology Dis meant "riches" and was ruler of the Underworld, aka Pluto.
Eonwe Valar: Which mythology?
VardaValar1: We strongly suspect that riches and underground may have been the deciding traits that led Tolkien to the use of the name.
VardaValar1: Greek
VardaValar1: Roman
VardaValar1: Pluto is the more known name.
ArPharazonV: Pluto was Roman, wasn't he?
VardaValar1: Aye
Eonwe Valar: Don't remember Dis for Pluto/Hades.
ArPharazonV: with Hades being Greek?
Sarujil: Virgil named a city Dis in Inferno also :-)
VardaValar1: It is an obscure one.
VardaValar1: Aye, Phar
VardaValar1: Good name, Ancalagon. : )
VardaValar1: We have various ways of handling the naming problem.
Sarujil: dante, sorry. virgil was the guide through inferno
VardaValar1: One, we used to have Irmo spoonfeed names to new members. Worked great until he had to stop. : )
ArPharazonV: that's something completely different...
ArPharazonV: must be the one you're referring to!
VardaValar1: Encyclopedia Mythica is an extremely good online guide for Mythology. Thanks Phar.
VardaValar1: A lot of it is very short description, but the coverage is fantastic.
VardaValar1: Ok, back to naming, a problem we all have.
VardaValar1: We try to find the meaning of the primary name with which we started.
VardaValar1: Then we look through the books for other versions of the character.
VardaValar1: Tolkien often has many names for the person, often in the same place.
VardaValar1: Then we check for ways to translate the meaning of the name into other of Tolkien's languages.
VardaValar1: This can give quite a number of interesting names.
VardaValar1: Not in the books, quite often, but good variations, educational in the languages, and quite alright. : )
VardaValar1: Then some names can be Tolkien language descriptions of the character.
VardaValar1: Fainan is an example.
VardaValar1: It means "I emit light" and refers to Varda, the Valie of light.
ArPharazonV: hmm... does Calion mean Gold or Golden then?
Eonwe Valar: Golden
ArPharazonV: because Calion's the elvish name for Pharazon and Pharaz is said to mean Golden
Eonwe Valar: Translated to Pharazon.
ArPharazonV: ...or Gold
VardaValar1: Also, we can take the primary name, or even the alt names, and tack on terms...
VardaValar1: descriptive of the gaming character.
VardaValar1: For instance, a word meaning staff for a staff user, or dwarf for a dwarf avatar.
VardaValar1: or -wen for maiden.
VardaValar1: Besides our own site with the Quenya Lore Book and other language material,
VardaValar1: I suggest the Ardalambion as a source of such added bits.
VardaValar1: It has all the languages, although sometimes hard to get at.
VardaValar1: We were considering making a page with some of these potential tack-ons.
VardaValar1: Would any of you here want such a page?
VardaValar1: It's not that hard to look them up on your own, so I ask.
VardaValar1: You can also *gasp* look up words and parts of words in the books.
Star of Phaet: shock horror
VardaValar1: Pardon my dialecticism. \
VardaValar1: "Tack on" means to use a small nail, called a tack, to add a small item to your work.
FladrifV: thanks for the explanation
VardaValar1: My pleasure.
VardaValar1: Whenever I'm unclear, please feel free to ask.
FladrifV: so I did :-)
VardaValar1: Surely others will also be confused, so you will be helping others.
Menelvagor Valar: gonna walk the dog and then I'm all yours :)
VardaValar1: *pats dog*
VardaValar1: See you later, Swordsman : )
VardaValar1: So no one sees a need for such a page?
FladrifV: I think its more fun to have it in meetings like this
VardaValar1: It is hard to do the research needed while holding a meeting.
VardaValar1: It is more fun though. : )
Eonwe Valar: There's also the Forum, should anyone want to *gasp* ask there :}
VardaValar1: Guess that is a no on making the page. Doing nothing is easy. Finished!
VardaValar1: Any of you can ask for help by email, when I can devote more time.
VardaValar1: Also, we have people who just add the English word, or add the v for our guild. Thrormagev did both at once. : )
VardaValar1: Sometimes adding the v makes us look like a bunch of Russians, quite delightful. Vardav works nicely, but consonant endings have a problem.
VardaValar1: Creativity is the key. : )
Menelvagor Valar: back in full now.
VardaValar1: We just want to have a way to recognize each other.
VardaValar1: Aiyata, Menelvagor. : )
ArPharazonV: hmm... Pharazov would be nice...
VardaValar1: There you go, like that.
VardaValar1: Menelvagov : )
Arwen V1: Arwenv looks weird though.
Arwen V1: =/
VardaValar1: Arwev : )
Eonwe Valar: Varwen? :}
Arwen V1: lol
VardaValar1: Sounds like me. : )
Arwen V1: yeah, people will think I'm Varda then
FladrifV: fladrifv
Eonwe Valar: True, maybe not so good :}
VardaValar1: I often use Var as I'm sometimes called Var for short.
ArPharazonV: Fladriv?
VardaValar1: Aye, Fladrifv is in use. : )
Srekal86 has left the room.
Star of Phaet: Vladrif?
Eonwe Valar: Vladrif probably not good either :}
Star of Phaet: Arven?
ArPharazonV: Vladriv!
FladrifV: och
VardaValar1: We are getting a bit silly, but it's often a way to actually find a name. Play with it.
ArPharazonV: ArVarazon?
VardaValar1: The best is to try to use some real Tolkien
VardaValar1: That way you pick up all kinds of side goodies.
FladrifV: Varp
VardaValar1: And it can sound better than Varp. : )
VardaValar1: Var anything could be confused with my mess of names. : )
FladrifV: *shakes branches of laughing*
VardaValar1: So be prepared for some peculiar questions out of the blue!
ArPharazonV: oh come on, nothing wrong with Varpharazon
FladrifV: evarparazon...then you get your land back
VardaValar1: Except for the confusion part? : )
VardaValar1: Ok, maybe a side window will have to be devoted to this. ;-)
VardaValar1: heh
ArathornValar: Arweniev :-P
VardaValar1: If you folks would like to be of help
VardaValar1: Look up member names on the Members page,
VardaValar1: then look in the Encyc to see if it has a list of other Tolkien names for the character.
VardaValar1: If not, then email a list of your research of actual Tolkien names and from where.
VardaValar1: Currently that is a bit of a mess
VardaValar1: I need help to get it cleaned up.
VardaValar1: So feel free to toss in something for one or more names. : )
VardaValar1: Any other Membership news?

VardaValar1: Web News:
VardaValar1: I have been slacking off on working on the pages. I apologize and will try to be more diligent.
VardaValar1: I have a great many neglected projects going, and would be glad of help on any of them. : )
VardaValar1: Kings of men or elves, with a bit of the history of their time. (Two projects there.)
VardaValar1: Thorin's Company: all members in it.
VardaValar1: We need to be useful for the upcoming Hobbit movie.
VardaValar1: Anything at all to help with the Hobbit movie is appreciated.
VardaValar1: Artists really like descriptions, for instance.
VardaValar1: Actors like to know mannerisms, relationships
Menelvagor Valar: Thorin, nori, ori, bifur, bofur, bombur, oin, gloin, balin... missing anyone?
Menelvagor Valar: dwalin.. right?
VardaValar1: 13 dwarves, one hobbit, one wizard. : )
VardaValar1: right on Dwalin
Menelvagor Valar: definitely missing some then :)
Menelvagor Valar: 3 more.
VardaValar1: Keep going : ) Anyone?
VardaValar1: It's in our Ency if you're stuck. ; )
ArPharazonV: thinking...
ArPharazonV: dori
VardaValar1: starts with F on one
VardaValar1: good
ArPharazonV: Fili and Kili!
VardaValar1: good!
Menelvagor Valar: and the bilbo was hobbit, and the gandalf was wizard, right? :-D
VardaValar1: Aye : )
VardaValar1: Done! Good work : )
Menelvagor Valar: and if memory serves correct, Fili and Kili were the youngest and generally got the "bad jobs" to do.
VardaValar1: Aye : )
Eonwe Valar: Bad jobs, like stealing from a dragon? :}
VardaValar1: Like clean up : )
Menelvagor Valar: nah, that was for a thiefmaster or somesuch like Bilbo :)
VardaValar1: Actually, helping set the table
Menelvagor Valar: cleaning up, scouting, that kind of thing.
VardaValar1: all helped with cleaning except Thorin.
Eonwe Valar: It's good to be the king :}
Menelvagor Valar: no king yet :)
VardaValar1: boss works. ; )
Menelvagor Valar: and didn't see him help cleaning up Smaug :-P
ArPharazonV: they also died in the battle of the five armies..
Menelvagor Valar: hmm... I suggest taking "The Hobbit" into the Tolkien section for further disection?
VardaValar1: Aye
VardaValar1: Any further web news?
Menelvagor Valar: good topic that though :)
VardaValar1: Menelvagor, I saw Alatar on Ventrilo last night
VardaValar1: Maybe you can catch him there for help on your web problem
VardaValar1: Eonwe, Lungorthin, Menelvagor: any web news?
VardaValar1: Anyone else?

VardaValar1: Gaming:
VardaValar1: Who played anything besides WoW and is allowed to talk about it, this week? : )
ArPharazonV: thinking, but can't come up with anything...
FladrifV: chess? :P
VardaValar1: Chess is good. :-)
FladrifV: only thing I play next to wow
Star of Phaet: I played Spider Solitaire earlier today ;-)
FladrifV: *over internet that is
VardaValar1: Internet Canasta anyone? : )
FladrifV: what is that?
VardaValar1: Finduilas is not here for WoW Euro.
VardaValar1: Pharazon, do you have a report for WoW Euro?
ArPharazonV: ehrr... not really, we're making some good progress on the Twin Emperors of Ahn'Qiraj, and we're still trying to beat Patchwerk in Naxxramas...
VardaValar1: Nice!
VardaValar1: See any other Valar Europe folk?
ArPharazonV: the character I used to sign Finduilas' charter in Argent Dawn I brought back to my old guild The High Guard, since we won't try it there anymore...
ArPharazonV: I've spoken to Finduilas a bunch of times, she says hello, can't be here tonight, but didn't tell me where she was going
VardaValar1: Might as well
Menelvagor Valar: Finduilas' Paladin is making good progress.
FladrifV: indeed
VardaValar1: The rp server was causing problems, as a Tolkien rp was not welcome in a WoW rp area.
ArPharazonV: too bad all our conversations took place around my raids, so we didn't have time to play together
VardaValar1: Do you play when it's not a raid time? : )
ArPharazonV: I do, yes, occasionally :-)
ArPharazonV: this afternoon I didn't raid!
VardaValar1: egads!
FladrifV: *gasp*
VardaValar1: Ok moving on
ArPharazonV: getting a little burned out on the 20-man raids
VardaValar1: Eonwe, could you give the WoW Lothar report?
ArPharazonV: so while people do those, I try to farm a little, do some quests...
Eonwe Valar: Sure can.
ArPharazonV: but yeah, that's all from me, go Eonwe!
Eonwe Valar: This week took Eonwë, Varda, Arwen, Arathorn, and Ancalagon into Blackrock Depths to attempt Jailbreak, Dark Iron Legacy, Heart of the Mountain, and Incendius.
Eonwe Valar: We cleared around the Jailbreak area first to make the task a bit easier. Unfortunately, some bad angles in a doorway during one fight cost us the battle. We'll be giving it another go next week.
Eonwe Valar: In the meantime, we fought onward to reclaim the Heart of the Mountain from the Vault. After dealing with the boss and the giant golems, we then took a step back to the Domocile to get a key to claim what was in the special vault.
Eonwe Valar: Once completing that, we went on to Darkvire and Incendius. Taking both out with relative ease, we backtracked to get Arwen the Shadowforge key, and called it a night. During the trip, Arwen got to lvl 59 on her Warrior.
VardaValar1: yay Arwen!
ArPharazonV: grats :-)
ArathornValar: what are you installing?
Eonwe Valar: ?
ArathornValar: Arwen
ArathornValar: something about a patch..?
VardaValar1: WoW
VardaValar1: Then it had to go through the patches.
Eonwe Valar: Btw, that does it for my report.
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe : )
Eonwe Valar: mp
VardaValar1: Did you have anything else you wanted to tell for Uldaman or elsewhere?
Eonwe Valar: Me?
Eonwe Valar: It's there. Play it. :}
VardaValar1: Aye. You've been working on the members lists there and visiting
VardaValar1: hehe - thanks
Eonwe Valar: Aye, I've been keeping the tables up-to-date for Lothar and Uldaman :}
VardaValar1: If you want to play Horde, we have Uldaman server. :-)
VardaValar1: For LotRO, everyone keep an eye on your email.
VardaValar1: Also, guilds with the most members signing up get a higher percentage of their people invited, as a guild.
VardaValar1: They get a preference, as they are more likely to game.
VardaValar1: So be sure to sign up. : )
VardaValar1: Unfortunately, LotRO gamers are not allowed to tell even their spouses that they play, unless they are also gamers.
ArathornValar: is LotRO coming out?
VardaValar1: So use the beta forum and the LotRO mail
VardaValar1: It's in beta
VardaValar1: It is taking new testers nearly ever month
ArathornValar: is there a demo?
VardaValar1: It is scheduled to come out Spring 2007
Eonwe Valar: Even their spouses? Wow, tight security. Gotta lock the room down before you log in? :}
ArathornValar: How do you get on the testing team?
VardaValar1: Look on and sign up there
Star of Phaet: well, that rules me out, computer in a main room of the house ;-)
VardaValar1: Mention your guild name in the place where it asks for it.
VardaValar1: So is mine, Gilraen. Not your fault if they happen to walk by.
Eonwe Valar: Ah, so it's like the old cereal commercial: "What'chya eatin'?" "Nuttin' honey." :}
VardaValar1: Right : )
VardaValar1: But the family can try to be reasonably discreet
ArathornValar: can't you just beam us into the game o lady o' light? :-P
VardaValar1: Any further gaming news?
VardaValar1: Arathorn, I am trying very hard
VardaValar1: I do that by asking you to sign in using your guild name
Eonwe Valar: Turbine has all their windwo shutters closed :}
VardaValar1: This can help us beam in more persons.
ArathornValar: hmm can you give me that link again .. it didnt work the first time and I cleared the screen
Arwen V1 has left the room.
VardaValar1: click it
VardaValar1: the beta sign up is right there
ArathornValar: Where it says "Sign up for Beta"? *runs for cover!*
VardaValar1: That's a good guess. Both comments. ;-)
VardaValar1: Anyone else need to sign up?
VardaValar1: Any further gaming news?
VardaValar1: Should I just let you guys wander around the LotRO forum? :-)
VardaValar1: Please be sure to go to kinships and type into the search: Valar Guild
VardaValar1: and say hi : )
VardaValar1: Let them know we are alive
VardaValar1: Anyone still here, please type Aye
VardaValar1: Aye
Star of Phaet: Aye
ArPharazonV: Aye
FladrifV: what is the chance....fladrif and skjold gone for forum...
VardaValar1: 4 of 14
FladrifV: oh aye
VardaValar1: Fladrifv works : )
VardaValar1: That's why we have the guild v thingy
VardaValar1: It lets us use even popular names
Eonwe Valar: Aye
VardaValar1: 5/14 : )
Eonwe Valar: Ime just multitasking :}
VardaValar1: hmm, 5/13. Orodreth is here twice
ArathornValar: Odd says my ID aready exists as Arathornv.. I must be on their forum already
Eonwe Valar: *'m
Eonwe Valar: *I'm
VardaValar1: Probably are, Ara
VardaValar1: It's been around quite a while
ArathornValar: hmm but ut wants me to create an account to sign up .. :-\
VardaValar1: And we've been asking for sign ups for beta since they were first mentioned.
VardaValar1: Forget your password?
Eonwe Valar: You can sign into your account then sign up for beta
VardaValar1: Aye, what Eonwe said
ArathornValar: ahh
VardaValar1: You are supposed to sign onto the forum first. Pardon.
Eonwe Valar: If you don't have an account, make one. If you do, sign in and sign up :}
VardaValar1: What Eonwe said! : )
Eonwe Valar: Grab a sowrd and fight the.... Dark Lord! :}
VardaValar1: Duck Morgoth and Sauron!
VardaValar1: Otherwise we have a short game. : )
VardaValar1: Codemasters for Euro may be reached from that same website given for LotRO
VardaValar1: Turbine handles the Americas
VardaValar1: If there is no further business?
VardaValar1: comments, suggestions, compliments, gentle growls?
Oessala: Codemasters? Didn't they make perimeter?
Oessala: Sorry, that was totally random.
VardaValar1: =)

VardaValar1: Tolkien:
VardaValar1: We already have two topics of a fashion, and would be interested if anyone has another
ArathornValar: hmm not accepting password or emails to get pwd if forgot :-\
Eonwe Valar: ouch
VardaValar1: Re-register?
VardaValar1: Sounds odd
ArathornValar: both arathorn and arathornv taken .sigh
VardaValar1: You have more problems with this thing than I do, not sure how to help.
VardaValar1: Try Haran!
VardaValar1: Ok - on the topics:
VardaValar1: We earlier were talking about our needs on the Encyc for filling in subjects for the Hobbit.
VardaValar1: Thorin's Company could be the core of that, a project started but in need of much work yet.
VardaValar1: We can also use info on the area of Dale, and on Smaug
VardaValar1: We have some of course, but additional is welcome
VardaValar1: We could use something on the Thrushes and their relation to the Men of Dale.
VardaValar1: That is a topic we have hardly ever touched. : )
VardaValar1: Also the Ravens of Erebor spoke to the Dwarves.
VardaValar1: Both were long-lived types of birds, and could converse intelligently.
VardaValar1: One wonders if Radagast might not have been behind that.
VardaValar1: Many things that might have been going on, such as Radagast's work, receive such tiny hints as this.
VardaValar1: We could also use a good strategy overall view of the Battle of Five Armies, and what triggered what.
VardaValar1: This is one of the cases where Manwe steps in with his eagles.
VardaValar1: Any other suggestions for what we should include before the movie comes out?
VardaValar1: They currently intend to do retcons in the movie.
Eonwe Valar: erg
VardaValar1: Tolkien had not yet invented a number of characters at the time of the Hobbit, but they would have been present.
VardaValar1: Such as meeting ten year old Aragorn at Rivendell.
VardaValar1: They would most likely be mostly cameos, for fun.
Eonwe Valar: Well, that's a horse of a different color.
VardaValar1: We could figure out what retcons could be present and how much, so they don't put in a 20-year old Aragorn, for instance.
VardaValar1: Or a baby Aragorn. : )
ArPharazonV: was Gimli alive by then?
VardaValar1: Gimli would have been a youngster, and Gloin could comment on him for instance, missing home.
VardaValar1: yes : )
ArPharazonV: ok :-)
VardaValar1: Legolas was probably one of the captains mentioned in Thranduil's army.
VardaValar1: As Mirkwood's prince, he could very likely have been a main commander, as that was done in old times.
VardaValar1: So don't scream argh if you see him doing that. : )
Sarujil: ill scream if he joins the company and shoots smaug instead of bard
VardaValar1: The hobbits were too young
VardaValar1: heh, I'll join you Anc!
Sarujil: somehow i wouldnt be surprised if that happened :-(
VardaValar1: If Faramir can shoot a fell beast when Legolas actually did it, then aye. Could happen.
Eonwe Valar: Frodo, will of course carry the Arkenstone to Erebor, heh.
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: Frodo wasn't born yet. : )
Star of Phaet: I suspect that's the point ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Arwen will lead Thranduil's forces into battle, just because.
VardaValar1: I am in agreement with Eonwe. : )
VardaValar1: hehe
ArPharazonV: I wonder if they'll pull in Lorien and Haldir in some way...
VardaValar1: o my : ) How would they pull that one off?
VardaValar1: He was most likely alive, so they might consider it. ow
ArPharazonV: they sent Elves to Helm's Deep... so why not send them to Erebor?
VardaValar1: Elves were at Erebor
Eonwe Valar: Elves were at Erebor though :}
VardaValar1: Thranduil's army
ArPharazonV: yes, but Lorien-elves
VardaValar1: Celeborn is a Sindarin, might want to help his Sindarin fellow ruler, Thranduil. eep
ArPharazonV: indeed
VardaValar1: shhh : )
ArPharazonV: let's not give them the idea ;-)
VardaValar1: Haldir happened to be visiting Mirkwood, since he is a known traveler. ; )
VardaValar1: Ok, so what do we actually want to see in the movie?
ArPharazonV: singing Dwarves!
Sarujil: i want to see a really exciting spider battle in mirkwood
Eonwe Valar: The Hobbit portrayed as closely to the book as possible, which is quite possible :}
VardaValar1: The dwarves singing and playing their instruments at Bilbo's. Ahh, great minds, Ar
VardaValar1: ohh, aye! Spider fight!
VardaValar1: And yes, the Mirkwood spiders talked.
ArPharazonV: the three trolls :-)
VardaValar1: For sure. : )
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Sarujil: the sackville-bagginses? :-)
VardaValar1: They did show the stone trolls in LotR, so maybe they will be in the Hobbit!
VardaValar1: eww, but aye : ) Must have villains
VardaValar1: welcome back, Arwen!
Arwen V1: thanks =)
VardaValar1: Get signed up for LotRO, Arwen? : )
Arwen V1: whowhat?
VardaValar1: *being a pest*
Arwen V1: I signed up for the beta, havent heard anything back about it.
VardaValar1: I think you did already
VardaValar1: They are sending out invites for October
Arwen V1: cool =o
VardaValar1: I suspect it may be more or less monthly after that
VardaValar1: but that is not set in stone
Arwen V1: that sounds cool =)
Oessala: Sorry to inturrupt again, but I must mention how much I love the gms on eve. :-)
Oessala: Dear players Please do not use the market or pretty much do anything until the server is back up.We are truly sorry for the inconvenience and we appreciate your patience.The GMs
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: Good sense of humor
VardaValar1: barrel riding, must be in the movie!
Oessala: When is LotRO supposedly coming out?
FladrifV: anyone knows system requirements?
VardaValar1: Spring 2007
Eonwe Valar: Since it's actually in beta, shouldn't be much longer than early 2007 now.
VardaValar1: your answers are all on that forum
Oessala: MMOs come out of beta? :p
FladrifV: oh not on european forum
VardaValar1: System requirements for the end game are not yet known
VardaValar1: try the Turbine forum
VardaValar1: They are still figuring out what the public can handle
VardaValar1: Lot of stress testing
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VardaValar1: Ok, it's about 2 hours of meeting now
VardaValar1: I'm going to call it here

VardaValar1: After-meeting!
VardaValar1: I have company, all neglected, and am going to go join in : )
VardaValar1: Have a good time1
VardaValar1: !
Eonwe Valar: Hf :}
Eonwe Valar: Take care :}
ArPharazonV: Namarie, Vardav!
VardaValar1: hehe
FladrifV: namarie
VardaValar1: I really do use that name. ;-)
Star of Phaet: namarie
Oessala: I love stress testing on eve.
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FladrifV: I even droped ogame :-)
FladrifV: my poor videocard
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Eonwe Valar: 256MB ATI Radeon here. It better be enough :}
ArPharazonV: that'll be my videocard soon, silly!
FladrifV: no arph spoke of my laptop :-)
ArPharazonV: ahh :-)
FladrifV: my desktop is...or was no problem :-)
FladrifV: have to have a good reason towards my company :D
ArPharazonV: is that videocard good enough for Burning Crusade, btw?
Oessala: look there for shiny :o
ArPharazonV: they gave the system requirements
ArPharazonV: let me find the link
Oessala: dx 10 yee
Eonwe Valar: BC only needs about 32 meb graphics card with some fancy abilities.
Eonwe Valar: *meb = mb
Eonwe Valar: recommended is 64, so if you can beat that you ought to be fine.
ArPharazonV: has the new system requirements
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Oessala: vista/dx10+eve =
FladrifV: dx10 wont help you much
Oessala: er?
FladrifV: it still is a dx9 game
Oessala: the new shinies will only be availible if you have dx10. :-)
FladrifV: that will take some time I hope
FladrifV: and otherwise wine has to make speed
Oessala: well, it's gonna be kali 3..and a rough guesstimate would put that spring 07
Oessala: not that I'm gonna have it..
FladrifV: vista is not even final :-)
FladrifV: and dx10 will not be on winxp
Oessala: that's not stopping ccp. :p
FladrifV: I tried vista, but it will force me staying at winxp or switch to linux :-)
Oessala: yay eve back up
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