June 18, 2006 Meeting
5pm EST (GMT - 5);
(GMT = 22:00)
Back to News
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
Transcript work by: Ar-Pharazon-(V),
Members: Aerandir-(V)/mordacil, ArPharazonV, Eonwe
Valar, FanduilasV, GilraenV, LuthienV, Menelvagor Valar, Orodreth
V/Oessala, VardaValar1 (presiding)
Visitor: crasyboy45 (would like to join)
RP board by
Finduilas-(V) now up for playing any time in Tolkien's books
Well of Souls
Lord of the
World of WarCraft:
rewards and new patterns for Argent Dawn and Naxxramas
Blizzard Update Downloader
fixable to prevent crashes and lag, especially on dial-up and older
Argent Dawn server
server for Alliance - full guild branch
server for Horde
Father's Day topic: Who are some of the fathers in
the books and what were they like?
After-meeting: (Tolkien and WoS gaming)
relation to Feanor.
Luthien: how Tindomeral can mean
(bits dug out during other conversation for quite a while.)
Silmarillion: what it is.
Quenya: what it is.
WoS (Well of Souls)
Aerianell all the way down
You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Pharazon :-)
ArPharazonV: sorry, didn't notice your message
ArPharazonV: been in msn conversation with a friend, and I've been in
here since about 90 minutes ago
VardaValar1: A bit early, weren't you? :-)
ArPharazonV: yeah, but my monitor's acting up, very dark/purple most of
the time, and I wanted to see if this meeting was doable without
hurting my eyes
VardaValar1: Is it?
ArPharazonV: it is, yes
VardaValar1: not your video card?
ArPharazonV: oh well, getting a new monitor tomorrow probably
VardaValar1: Good to hear. :-)
ArPharazonV: no, I've been told it's the monitor by many people who
once had the same thing
VardaValar1: Good to have help like that.
VardaValar1: I sure hope you can save and send the meeting today. I'm
on the wrong comp.
ArPharazonV: I hope so too, but I have the feeling my monitor might die
VardaValar1: Or right comp, since it has a battery backup to handle the
storm outside. : )
VardaValar1: okies. I'll manage.
VardaValar1: Father's Day. We'll have a low turnout.
VardaValar1: Inviting now.
ArPharazonV: if it does at the wrong time, I won't even be able to
save, let alone say proper goodbye :-)
ArPharazonV: ah, right
LuthienV has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Luthien : )
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
LuthienV: Heya : )
ArPharazonV: Aiya Luthien and Menel
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
ArPharazonV: Menelvagor, remember Lalaith?
VardaValar1: Hiya Menelvagor : )
mordacil has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Almost no one online.
VardaValar1: Aiya Aerandir : )
ArPharazonV: I sponsored her return into the High Guard today... maybe
we can make contact again for the Valarguild, if she's still interested
mordacil has left the room.
VardaValar1: If she's interested in adding to the Tolkien site, you
have a good chance.
mordacil has entered the room.
VardaValar1: comp problems, Aerandir?
mordacil: quit the wrong window
Menelvagor Valar: afk, on the phone.
VardaValar1: hehe - understood
GilraenV has entered the room.
VardaValar1: We'll see if we can start when Menel returns
VardaValar1: Aiya Gilraen : )
GilraenV: Aiya :-)
VardaValar1: It was nice seeing you on Lothar!
VardaValar1: Maybe we'll just let Menel scroll. ;-)
sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership Report:
VardaValar1: Finduilas-(TV), who comes here as
BhonTuath, passed her Full Membership test and is now Finduilas-(V)!
VardaValar1: Huzzah for Finduilas!
ArPharazonV: Grats to her!
who makes the photomanip illustrations for her and Siobhan-(TV)'s Lord
of the Rings stories...
VardaValar1: has a job creating images for a television station.
VardaValar1: Goes to show you can turn your hobby knowledge into a good
job. : )
FanduilasV has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Pharazon found Lalaith-(V)-ex and she's playing on WoW
VardaValar1: Aiya, Findulas? : )
ArPharazonV: she's not an ex-valar...
FanduilasV: Aiya Varda and all
VardaValar1: We were just talking about you
LuthienV: Aiya Finduilas and Congrats
ArPharazonV: she's an ex-high guard, the European WoW guild
VardaValar1: not, ah ok
VardaValar1: Just the same name. : )
ArPharazonV: and once showed interest in joining the Valarguild
VardaValar1: We used to have a Lalaith
ArPharazonV: we did? cool
VardaValar1: Name's free now if she wants it. : )
ArPharazonV: anyway, I got her back into the high guard, and will take
a shot at getting her interested again :-)
ArPharazonV: perhaps she'll be glad to know, then :-)
VardaValar1: See if she would like to add to the web site, if she has
any leanings that way?
VardaValar1: She could go TV even if she doesn't want V
ArPharazonV: I'll talk to her about it
VardaValar1: Any other member news?
my monitor's dying!
VardaValar1: We need a monitor heal potion for Pharazon.
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: at least, I think it's the monitor, we're going to the
shop tomorrow, might as well take it for testing, instead of it being
the videocard or something :P
GilraenV: Gwaihir probably won't be joining us
GilraenV: he was up late for a Father's Day thing with his parents
ArPharazonV: it's now quite dark and purple, if anyone recognizes the
VardaValar1: Thanks, Gilraen
VardaValar1: Aiya Eonwe : )
Eonwe Valar: Heya
Eonwe Valar: Happy Father'ss Day to all the Fathers of the Guild!
VardaValar1: Fangorn says thank you. : )
VardaValar1: Any further membership news?
VardaValar1: In a combo Membership and Web news,
has her website up and running:
VardaValar1: Finduilas, would you like to tell us about it?
ArPharazonV: it's so odd... green shows as black, Varda and Gilraen
have the same lightblue color, pink and white are indiscernable (sp?)...
FanduilasV: Sure thing , its for general Tolkien discussion and text
FanduilasV: i can change the layout
ArPharazonV: no, it's my monitor, sorry :-)
FanduilasV: it covers the whole history of Arda more or less so if any
one wants to play in Valinor , Tol Ereesea or Numenor haver fun ;-)
VardaValar1: His monitor is due for replacement tomorrow, with good
ArPharazonV: ooh, Numenor
ArPharazonV: no place like home!
VardaValar1: Even if a trifle soggy?
ArPharazonV: beats the stuffy cave
VardaValar1: There's that.
VardaValar1: Eonwe, go ahead. : )
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
Eonwe Valar: As some of you may know, I've been working on the Games Page,
recoding it using PHP to make a (hopefully) nicer-looking and, as
importantly, an easier web page for me to maintain :}
Eonwe Valar: Well, so near am I to completion (as near as one ever gets
with an ongoing project, hehe) and so anxious am I to get this new
version out and about, that I have decided to hold the Games Page
Update early this year.
VardaValar1: As in wipe out all the old info completely and replace it?
Eonwe Valar: Aye :}
Eonwe Valar: The same thing I usually do about a month before
Anniversary time, I am doing over the next month.
Eonwe Valar: I will be wiping the slate clean, and sending out letters
asking again for everyone's most recent Gaming info.
Eonwe Valar: As a special treat to those of you who have shown up today
though, You can whisper me your new gaming info today :}
VardaValar1: Now treated. Thanks. : )
Eonwe Valar: Since I like to add some general info into the mail about
games we're doing or have done over the last year, I'd like Branch
Leaders to send in a bit about their games to go in to Letter
Eonwe Valar: Feel free to whisper me your gaming info beginning a few
minutes ago :}
Eonwe Valar: Our Branches currently are WoW, LotRO, and I believe
there's a few starting up Well of Souls again.
FanduilasV: I have seen Boromir shortly yesterday
Eonwe Valar: LotRO is quite started up, but we can still try to get
members in there :}
Eonwe Valar: *Isn't quite
VardaValar1: Okie dokie
Eonwe Valar: Ok, think I've covered it all. Any questions? :}
Eonwe Valar: I hope to send out the letters early in the week, Monday
VardaValar1: I guess we don't really have a leader for Battlenet
VardaValar1: We still have some gamers there though
Eonwe Valar: Aye, we do still have gamers there.
Eonwe Valar: I am done btw :}
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe
VardaValar1: In web news for the Tolkien site:
VardaValar1: new link for the Links page:
VardaValar1: Silmarillion, an
VardaValar1: link mentioned by Eonwe
VardaValar1: In case any wish to take a look
page menus are now separated from the Encyc menus to help with
bookmarks and linking
VardaValar1: Turgon-(V) has
new art up
VardaValar1: "Ancalagon the Black", "Dol Guldur".
VardaValar1: Cassia-(TV) has
an illustration for the new one chapter story, "Sickness"
VardaValar1: The story by Cassia and Siobhan, "Sickness"
VardaValar1: It sounds like a turn-off title, but the concept is
VardaValar1: Elves are not used to the concept of sickness, as they
don't have it.
VardaValar1: So when one sees it in a human friend, it can be startling.
VardaValar1: That's it for the Tolkien site for this week's news,
except for a request.
VardaValar1: Members seem to think the Encyclopedia is complet.
VardaValar1: It's no more complete than the word I just typo'd.
VardaValar1: We have a great many topics up that have nothing under
them, or very short bits, or just an image.
VardaValar1: We need your help to make this a really good and thorough
VardaValar1: People do use us as a reference, so please do your best,
using original sources of Tolkien books.
VardaValar1: The web is unreliable too often
VardaValar1: Even books that are out are imperfect
VardaValar1: the book on Languages out by Ms. Noel now is 30 years old
and not updated.
VardaValar1: Things like that.
VardaValar1: Looking through the books for your research can be
VardaValar1: as they can pull you in to start reading again. : )
VardaValar1: But looking up something usually shows some neat bit you
didn't think to put in just from memory.
VardaValar1: Have fun with it!
VardaValar1: I'm done. : )
VardaValar1: Any other web news?
Menelvagor Valar: back.
VardaValar1: Menelvagor, do you have web news?
VardaValar1: Who has played anything this week that is not WoW? Such as
WoS or other? : )
Menelvagor Valar: well...
Menelvagor Valar: I do have some gaming news.
VardaValar1: Fire : )
Menelvagor Valar: not that I played the game, but I watched it :)
FanduilasV: hehe I have some gaming news
Menelvagor Valar: as some of you may know, two days ago was the soccer match Italy versus US.
FanduilasV: oops soz
Menelvagor Valar: and miracles do happen, for we managed to tie with
Menelvagor Valar: which is a magnificent result!
Menelvagor Valar: just wanted to congratulate all Americans on this
marvelous match :)
Eonwe Valar: US = us or US = United States? :}
Menelvagor Valar: United States.
ArPharazonV: so, Menel, have you severed all bonds with your native
country then? claiming US as your country? ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: I wouldn't report on a Dutch soccer match :-P
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Dual citizenship maybe? : )
Menelvagor Valar: in heart and soul, the US is my country, yes :)
Eonwe Valar: Thanks for the congrats :} I'm sure our fine atheletes
will appreciate it :}
VardaValar1: We are honored, Menelvagor.
ArPharazonV: for your information, we won both matches played already!
already set for the next round :-)
ArPharazonV: we'll have to see if the US gets that far ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: if they have Guus Hiddink as coach in 2014, they're
sure to win the World Cup.
ArPharazonV: isn't Hiddink going to coach Russia?
Menelvagor Valar: well, all they need is a win again Ghana, and Italy a
win against the Chech republic.
Menelvagor Valar: next time, yes, that's for 2010.
ArPharazonV: ah, of course
Menelvagor Valar: hence 2014 :-D
ArPharazonV: can't believe I'm talking soccer... I hate that sport :;-)
Menelvagor Valar: not precisely my sport either, but sometimes, it is
fun to watch.
Menelvagor Valar: (South Korea tied against France today :-D)
VardaValar1: Are you done, Menel? : )
Menelvagor Valar: yes, done :)
VardaValar1: Thanks for you report. : )
VardaValar1: Finduilas, go ahead.
Menelvagor Valar: I'll go and update the humor site now with the
requested changes :)
VardaValar1: Thank you : )
VardaValar1: (Webwork never ends!)
FanduilasV: Okay dok
FanduilasV: I met Orod twice this week on Eve online
FanduilasV: we both got blasted but thats life ..
Menelvagor Valar: (just checking, is that "Parasite Eve" Eve?)
FanduilasV: Eve online
FanduilasV: its a game, no parasite Menel hehe
Menelvagor Valar: do you perhaps have a link to a website for that game?
Menelvagor Valar: http://www.eve-online.com/
Menelvagor Valar: never mind, found it already :)
Menelvagor Valar: at least, hope that's the one :)
FanduilasV: yep thats it
FanduilasV: ye can have a free trial for a fortnight
Eonwe Valar: Got quiet in here all of a sudden, heh.
VardaValar1: I was waiting for someone to say they were done, and got
involved with three side windows. Sorry : )
of Souls has a group playing there
VardaValar1: A little trouble coming on at the same time
VardaValar1: so we might try to mention when a good time is for us
VardaValar1: Luthien plays as Tindomeral
VardaValar1: Are you there, Luthien? : )
LuthienV: Yes : )
VardaValar1: Cool : )
VardaValar1: do you have any particular time you prefer for WoS?
VardaValar1: Mine is very irregular
ArPharazonV: so is mine.. especially since I'm raiding in WoW at least
4 evenings a week
LuthienV: I'm extremely flexable, so I can play whenever its
convienient for the others
VardaValar1: So we're all irregular : )
VardaValar1: Maybe after meetings? :-)
LuthienV: Seems like a good time
FanduilasV: for me Wednesday afternoons, thursdays and fridays are the
ArPharazonV: depending if the meeting doesn't end too late, for me :-)
FanduilasV: I cant stay too long after the meeting, aye
VardaValar1: maybe you can sneak in during the meeting, but I didn't
say that. ; )
VardaValar1: Other people are gaming while in the meeting ; )
FanduilasV: am I ?
VardaValar1: Some do
FanduilasV: /me looks innocent
crasyboy45 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Don't know about anyone I can't see over Fangorn's
shoulder. ; )
crasyboy45: hi! :P
VardaValar1: Crasyboy is a gentleman some of us met at the LotR Exhibit
for the movies in Houston, Texas. : )
Eonwe Valar: Greetings :}
VardaValar1: He somehow found me online, good job!
FanduilasV: Aiya crasyboy
VardaValar1: He plays Ultima Online : )
crasyboy45: hehe i dont even know how i got your sn lol
crasyboy45: yes i play ultima online
crasyboy45: i play on the ABC UO shard
VardaValar1: We exchanged info at the Exhibit : )
crasyboy45: oh yeah lol
crasyboy45: what games do yall play?
VardaValar1: Eonwe, I'll let you field that one. : )
crasyboy45: oh wait im in the north now lol i have to say you guys. . .
VardaValar1: For starters, does anyone in the room play Ultima Online
Menelvagor Valar: used to.
Menelvagor Valar: long, long time ago.
VardaValar1: So you can at least understand each other's jargon. : )
crasyboy45: what shard/ shards did you play
Menelvagor Valar: I still have the cd somewhere though.
Menelvagor Valar: no idea, I only had the very first UO game, no
Eonwe Valar: http://valarguild.org/eonwe
Will answer all your gaming questions, for now :}
Menelvagor Valar: back then, it was still called servers.
VardaValar1: or maybe not. : )
crasyboy45: it is still cales servers
Eonwe Valar: It'll be updated in the next month, at which todays info
on the page will be obsolete :}
crasyboy45: we just like saying shards makes it more personal
crasyboy45: varda you win everything
VardaValar1: Ones in this room play World of WarCraft, Well of Souls,
and a bunch of others.
crasyboy45: i always wanted to play WoW but never wanted to fork out
VardaValar1: I wish, crasy : )
VardaValar1: We intend to go into Lord of the Rings Online
VardaValar1: if it ever comes out. ; )
crasyboy45: hehe im sure some fan will make it
VardaValar1: It's in beta now and we are signing up hoping to get in,
maybe as a guild.
crasyboy45: awesome as like beta testers
crasyboy45: thats how i got this verson of uo free
VardaValar1: The sign up asks if you are in a guild, so we have hope.
crasyboy45: i love free gaming
VardaValar1: Exactly as in beta testers.
crasyboy45: i hat having to pay to play
crasyboy45: well im always looking for new gaming Experiances
VardaValar1: That's why we had a lot of folk in Battlenet so long. : )
VardaValar1: Diablo series, StarCraft/BroodWar, WarCraft/The Frozen
VardaValar1: Who here is good at using Ventrilo? We have a question
VardaValar1: Pharazon, do you have one for Europe?
VardaValar1: *pokes Phar*
ArPharazonV: hm? oh
ArPharazonV: well, let's see what we've got
ArPharazonV: I spoke to Valandile this week again, promised to make him
a Hide of the Wild providing we can get the ingredients together
VardaValar1: Good to hear he's still active. : )
ArPharazonV: we finally killed the dreaded Huhuran, a very annoying
boss in Ahn'Qiraj
GilraenV has left the room.
GilraenV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: next stop will be the Twin Emperors, or more accurately
the trashmobs before them... hardly able to call them "trash" at their
ArPharazonV: outside the game itself, Blizzard has made some
revelations on their website
ArPharazonV: including a complete lore-summary
of the Trolls of the Warcraft-series, all
the different tribes and their history etc
is the link
ArPharazonV: they've also revealed some of the quest rewards and
new patterns for Argent Dawn and Naxxramas, for any raiders
among you, the new instance added in the next patch
ArPharazonV: ehrr.. wrong one
ArPharazonV: I've levelled all my alts from 1 to 6 this week.... unless
I told you last week, in which case I'm a week confused :-)
crasyboy45: is that good?
VardaValar1: Depends on the number of alts
ArPharazonV: so now they've completed all the quests in their starting
zones and are located at their first inn and mailbox!
crasyboy45: ohh kewl
ArPharazonV: 8 characters, of which 5 alts at lvl 1
ArPharazonV: and now at 6 ;-)
ArPharazonV: quite easy and fast, but still fun to get to know all the
alliance classes I hadn't really played yet :-)
crasyboy45: oh awesome
ArPharazonV: well, that concludes my report.. perhaps I'll have more
news and raid-progress for you next week!
VardaValar1: Thank you, Ar-Pharazon the Golden! : )
VardaValar1: Eonwe, would you like to give the WoW Lothar report now?
Eonwe Valar: Sure
crasyboy45: Lothar is that a server?
VardaValar1: Yes it is : )
crasyboy45: sorry for not being knowlageable?
VardaValar1: No problem. Asking is how you get that way, along with
doing of course. : )
ArPharazonV: the European server we play on is called Argent Dawn, btw
crasyboy45: if i could i would do it
Eonwe Valar: Ugluk and I(my Priest) got together with a couple of
people he knew, and another from the area to complete the Stromgarde
quests for his Paladin: Marez Cowl, Stromgarde Badges, Otto and
VardaValar1: (Kalasul is Eonwe's priest)
Eonwe Valar: The Badges were fairly easy, getting them along the way.
Marez Cowl also was pretty easy to take down.
Eonwe Valar: Our group had a couple of close calls, but all in all it
wasn't too bad.
Eonwe Valar: Then we got to Otto and Falconcrest. For some strange
reason, that was not a very pretty fight.
VardaValar1: Close calls make it more fun. : )
Eonwe Valar: After a couple of deaths, we did get both of them, though.
crasyboy45: so you can res in wow thats kewl we can in up as well we
just loose fame
Eonwe Valar: I managed to get lvl 40 in the process.
Eonwe Valar: Not that I was trying to level in Stromgarde, heh.
Eonwe Valar: It didn't give me a choice :}
Eonwe Valar: Afterwards, we went over to the circle where the Princess
is trapped, and dealt with her.
Eonwe Valar: Later that night, Beline and I went into Scarlet Monstary
to two-man it. His lvl 40 Druid and my now lvl 40 Priest were doing
fairly well. I'd mind control one of the guys he wasn't attacking (very
handy when that guy is a healer)
Eonwe Valar: It wasn't particularly fast-going though, and so when we
finally did get cornered between a patrolling mage and a group we were
fighting, they got us.
Eonwe Valar: It was getting late by then (or perhaps early would be a
better description) so Beline brought in his Paladin and we dealt with
our would-be killers :}
Eonwe Valar: My Priest got a new hat and made lvl 41 in the process, so
now I just have to get his mount :}
Eonwe Valar: Thus ends my report :}
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe!
VardaValar1: I publicly apologize to Eonwe for forgetting it was guild
night and not coming to Lothar Friday.
VardaValar1: I remembered about midnight. A real d'oh! moment.
Eonwe Valar: It's ok, Varda :}
VardaValar1: Anyway, a bit more on the WoW
VardaValar1: Some people, especially with older computers or dial-up
have been lagging badly or crashing
a great deal.
VardaValar1: Eonwe suggested a fix that has worked for at least two
people I know of
VardaValar1: and speeded up others like us with broadband.
VardaValar1: Eonwe told about the problem
with the Blizzard Update
VardaValar1: Go to the WoW folder on your computer.
VardaValar1: Open that file.
VardaValar1: It makes an icon on the taskbar at the bottom of your
screen while checking your patch.
VardaValar1: Open the icon on the taskbar
VardaValar1: Open Preferences
VardaValar1: Uncheck the box for downloading and uploading bits of the
upcoming patch between your computer and others done at odd times.
VardaValar1: It spikes your load and can crash you.
VardaValar1: In other WoW News:
crasyboy45: man that was impresive sounds like you jus t did it hehe
VardaValar1: Some of the Lothar group wanted to try out Horde together.
ArPharazonV: oh, gonna try that one... never noticed the thing, but
I've crashed on more than one occasion
VardaValar1: I did it for me on two comps here and helped walk several
people through it. : )
VardaValar1: It really helps.
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: You might have to put it back for the Tuesday patches : )
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiyata : )
FanduilasV: re'Menel ')
Menelvagor Valar: sorry, ran into a screen malfunction when trying to
VardaValar1: Anyway those of us wanting to play Horde
VardaValar1: are using Uldaman server
VardaValar1: We don't have a formal guild there, but could start up a
casual one if the Valar would like it.
VardaValar1: In any case, we use /join Valar to make a channel so we
can talk : )
VardaValar1: Would you like us to put up a page showing our Uldaman
names for your friend list and maybe to help Eonwe's game page? : )
VardaValar1: ok : )
VardaValar1: Any further gaming news?
VardaValar1: Then on to Tolkien!
crasyboy45: ooo i know a bit about this :D
crasyboy45: finally something hehe
VardaValar1: Business meeting is over, so we get to talk about the
books and make remarks about the movies.
VardaValar1: Hey, you knew some gaming. : )
crasyboy45: hehe give or take
VardaValar1: If none of you have a topic, I have one. And we can
tangent at will as usual. : )
crasyboy45: okay :D
VardaValar1: Since this is Father's Day,
crasyboy45: is anyone there?
VardaValar1: who are some of the
fathers in the books and what were they like?
VardaValar1: They can be adopted/foster/or blood fathers.
Eonwe Valar: Theoden was a father.
VardaValar1: Eru was a father in his way
VardaValar1: Aye, Eonwe
LuthienV: When I think of Fathers for some reason I think of Feanor
VardaValar1: Manwe acts as a father to all of Middle-earth
Eonwe Valar: Theoden, until Saruman got to him, seemed to be a pretty
good father. Neither Theodred nor Eomer nor Eowyn were particularly
VardaValar1: Finwe, Feanor's father, is one of the early ones discussed
VardaValar1: Aye, Feanor had many sons. : )
VardaValar1: Aye, all seemed to be quality people.
VardaValar1: Theoden's at least. : )
VardaValar1: Caranthir the Cruel, not so much. : )
ArPharazonV: how about Denethor and his sons?
Eonwe Valar: Fëanor likely loved his children, but he made them
swear his oath again thrice before he finally died after the First
VardaValar1: Denethor, aye
VardaValar1: Oaths destroy freedom of choice, a terrible thing to take.
LuthienV: Of course I have to mention Thingol
VardaValar1: You tell them, Luthien!
ArPharazonV: Denethor's sons seem to have turned out fairly allright,
though Boromir a little... impulsive, at least :-)
VardaValar1: The fatherhood probably affected their leadership styles
LuthienV: When the Sil I always got the impression that Thingol was a
little too overprotective.
LuthienV: When reading the Sil*
VardaValar1: Gandalf seemed to help raise Faramir as well.
VardaValar1: He had one daughter, the most beautiful in the world, and
some human tried to swipe her?
Eonwe Valar: Luthien was a particularly beautiful daughter, and was
half Maia. Likely he wanted to make sure she didn't end up with just
any old guy.
VardaValar1: The human removed her from the world and his company to
the end of Arda.
VardaValar1: So Thingol had a point, even if he was wrong. : )
ArPharazonV: yeah, I guess Thingol wouldn't like that..
Eonwe Valar: It's not like she wasn't immortal :} She had plenty of
time to find a good man :}
LuthienV: Thingol was actually one of my favorite characters
Eonwe Valar: Just that good man didn't have eternity to find her :}
VardaValar1: Thranduil may have originally been Thingol in the early
crasyboy45: well it wa sfun i have to go now if i can fixmy own puter
ill be back!
VardaValar1: You can see a few similarities.
VardaValar1: Good luck!
Eonwe Valar: Take care :}
ArPharazonV: well, if Thingol would have had something to say, it would
probably have been an elf anyway...
ArPharazonV: but the heart wants what it wants!
LuthienV: Really? Thats interesting, I hadn't heard of that Varda.
crasyboy45: it was nice meeting yall
crasyboy45 has left the room.
LuthienV: Namarie Crasyboy
VardaValar1: He may be joining us in the future. : )
Eonwe Valar: There are places it says Thranduil mirrored his caves in
Mirkwood after Thingol's Menegroth.
ArPharazonV: well, let's not forget daddy Gimilkhad, who did a swell
job raising me into the powerhungry warmonger I am today!
VardaValar1: They both had a liking for treasure.
VardaValar1: lol Phar
VardaValar1: Well said
FanduilasV: hmmm hoarding too much treasure never does any god
LuthienV: Yes...Smaug learned that the hard way..
VardaValar1: Smaug would argue with you if his hoard hadn't gotten him
Eonwe Valar: Most Dwarves would as well :}
ArPharazonV: Mim comes to mind :-)
VardaValar1: Aragorn became a father, had a son, Eldarion, and a scad
VardaValar1: Aye, Eonwe : )
VardaValar1: Mim, sort of sympathize, but not terribly much. Sad to see
a whole race wiped out, once he was gone though.
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
VardaValar1: Elrond was a father of twin sons and a beautiful daughter
ArPharazonV: what happened to Mim's other son again?
VardaValar1: He had the same problem Thingol did, and set a task for
the human too.
Eonwe Valar: Yeah, and there was no way he was letting her give up
immortality for just any guy :}
ArPharazonV: at least Aragorn got away with both his hands intact :-)
VardaValar1: Plus Elrond fostered all the Chieftains as young children.
VardaValar1: Lucky Aragorn : )
Eonwe Valar: I'd say Aragorn's task was fairer, though. His was to live
up to his potential. Beren's was to take a stretch way out there.
FanduilasV: tsss, at least one but he suffered a lot I bet
VardaValar1: I agree, Eonwe
VardaValar1: The fostering helped Elrond be more reasonable with
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
ArPharazonV: yeah, I don't really see Thingol fostering a line of
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
LuthienV: He also wasn't hidden away like Thingol was
VardaValar1: He accepted his brother Elros' choice, but it doesn't say
how it made him feel about humans.
FanduilasV: He was part human ..
ArPharazonV: Aiyata, Menel
Eonwe Valar: Aragorn was "simply" to fullfill the prophecies about him.
Beren had to go do something only a man in love would try :} Not even
the sons of Fëanor dared try what he did.
Menelvagor Valar: sorry, retried Eve, same result.
VardaValar1: Aye, Elrond was very different
Menelvagor Valar: my monitor just doesn't like that game.
VardaValar1: Ouch, Menel
ArPharazonV: join me tomorrow, we'll both get a new one ;-)
VardaValar1: : )
VardaValar1: Now there's an offer.
LuthienV: Everything in the Sil seemed to be on a much grandeur scale
Eonwe Valar: After the Beren/Luthien venture, Thingol did act more
kindly to humans however, and he did foster Turin.
VardaValar1: He learned
Eonwe Valar: Thingol had seen humans were no slouches when it came to
VardaValar1: Maybe there is something to be said for long life. : )
Time to learn.
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Thranduil, suppose he had more than one kid?
VardaValar1: Doesn't even say if his wife was still around. Seems as if
she should have had some mention.
Eonwe Valar: Maybe she sailed across the Sea.
VardaValar1: Faramir became a father
VardaValar1: Or, given the nature of Mirkwood, she could have died or
been kept very protected.
VardaValar1: You'd think she'd at least say something to Galadriel
after the War of the Ring, when Mirkwood and Lorien came together to
destroy Dol Guldur.
Eonwe Valar: I know she's no Galadriel, but one would think the queen
of a realm would be at parties :}
VardaValar1: Really! : )
VardaValar1: And we know Thranduil liked a good strong Dorwinion wine.
VardaValar1: Other fathers?
Eonwe Valar: I doubt she was so well protected as there to be
absolutely no mention of her despite her being around.
Eonwe Valar: Sam was a father :}
ArPharazonV: I recall Thranduil mentioned in the Hobbit on parties in
the forest etc... any mention of a consort?
VardaValar1: True, Eonwe!
VardaValar1: It doesn't give details
VardaValar1: He had plenty of company
VardaValar1: He probably had his family there
VardaValar1: Could have been one reason he was upset with the dwarves
VardaValar1: Speculation is fun. : )
ArPharazonV: "bah, finally get to spend some time with the wife and
kids, and a bunch of dwarves come interrupting the fun"
VardaValar1: They seemed to be lightening the dark where they had their
VardaValar1: So it may have served more than one purpose?
VardaValar1: The kings acted as fathers for their people too
VardaValar1: Thranduil was there taking care of his people and
home/land like a father, and protecting it
ArPharazonV: Turgon, for example? protecting all of his people in his
hidden valley, not wanting any of them to go out there and be killed?
ArPharazonV: Thranduil, reluctant to send people to the Nirnaeth
LuthienV: How about Finrods relationship with mankind? Could that be
VardaValar1: It very well could, Luthien.
VardaValar1: He taught them and cared about them, so much that he gave
his life for one.
ArPharazonV: stay stable, my sweet little monitor... you're allright
VardaValar1: hehe - good monitor, nice monitor
ArPharazonV: darn, went dark again
LuthienV: guess it doesn't like positive re-enforcment
ArPharazonV: occasionally it goes normal for about 10 seconds to a
VardaValar1: Good thing we will post a transcript for you for when you
can see again.
VardaValar1: Scroll fast!
ArPharazonV: it flickers a lot
ArPharazonV: and there it is again! good to see normal colors again
VardaValar1: Perhaps we should let you all go, hug your dads or those
who act as dads. : )
VardaValar1: Even moms who act in the place of dads. : )
VardaValar1: Big brothers
VardaValar1: Boromir acted fatherly for Farm
VardaValar1: Faramir sometimes
Eonwe Valar: Boromir acted fatherly to Faramir?
VardaValar1: In a way
ArPharazonV: hmm... have yet to find a goldfarmer in WoW called
Farmir... it's a nice idea though
VardaValar1: When they were younger
VardaValar1: Typos ftw :-)
ArPharazonV: speaking of which... have you ever run into an anagram of
VardaValar1: Have you?
VardaValar1: Ardav? : )
ArPharazonV: nope, though I have seen a druid around with the same name
as the one I chose for my last name... one of the rogues in our guild
ran into another rogue though, while mining in Silithus...
ArPharazonV: her name is Moiraene... the other rogue is Meirenao....
seems quite a coincidence ;-)
ArPharazonV: we've encountered various examples of these situations in
our months on WoW...
Eonwe Valar: If you use the random name generator, you can end up with
a name that looks suspiciously like someone elses. Beline and Beleene,
for example, and about 300 other spellings of it.
ArPharazonV: have you ever seen something like that on Lothar?
Eonwe Valar: Yep.
VardaValar1: Those who want to game together, now's the time to call
out for players
VardaValar1: Aye, we have
ArPharazonV: it's lonely alone on the Aerianell server :-)
Eonwe Valar: It's bound to happen if you use the game's random name
VardaValar1: rp players
LuthienV: I'll come join you Phara : )
VardaValar1: Go Tindomeral!
Eonwe Valar: Blizzard seems to steal parts of my names too.
VardaValar1: They may use a little elvish : )
ArPharazonV: I've seen a few Pharazon-variants running around...
VardaValar1: I've met some who didn't know they were using To,k
VardaValar1: Tolkien names
VardaValar1: were randomly generated
Eonwe Valar: I never saw a person's name starting with "Aur" until
about 6 months after the game was released.
Eonwe Valar: And suddenly there were several of them.
VardaValar1: Interesting. I wonder if they do use bits of names we make
for their random generator? Could get strange.
Eonwe Valar: I've encountered a few like that as well, Varda.
Eonwe Valar: *people who didn't realize their names were from Tolkien.
VardaValar1: Bilbo is on WoW Lothar right now as Valtocolindo : )
Menelvagor Valar: have to restart comp after installing some drivers,
which should remedy monitor issues, brb.
VardaValar1: good luck!
crasyboy45 has entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
VardaValar1: Welcome back : )
crasyboy45: so wht are we talking bout
crasyboy45: fathers stiill?
VardaValar1: We were just ending up
FanduilasV: sorz folkls
FanduilasV: for that
FanduilasV: been messing about with Menel
VardaValar1: Fluent garble spoken here.
VardaValar1: At least two are going into (or in) Well of Souls
VardaValar1: Free game
crasyboy45: ending up whole thins?
ArPharazonV: wooh, my wasp is lvl 15!
VardaValar1: Pretty much
crasyboy45: i like it
FanduilasV: right what I wanted to know , as its touching the topic
VardaValar1: grats : )
crasyboy45: prety much. . .
VardaValar1: So you might like it
FanduilasV: Galadriel - was she Feanors sister?
VardaValar1: rp players, Phar, Eonwe, Menel, me
Eonwe Valar: No, Galadriel was his niece.
VardaValar1: Finrod's sister
FanduilasV: ah of course cheers
ArPharazonV: daughter of Finarfin, aye
VardaValar1: From the golden-haired House of Finarfin. : )
VardaValar1: Finarfin, a dad with some good kids
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
LuthienV: Always wondered if Galadriel and Finarfin had a nice
father/daughter reunion when she went back to Valinor
Menelvagor Valar: back again.
VardaValar1: How's it look, Menel?
crasyboy45: WB me to :P
Menelvagor Valar: *crosses fingers and hopes it works this time.
Eonwe Valar: Sounds like a good idea for a story, Luthien :}
Menelvagor Valar: dunno, graphics at start-up seem a bit weird.
VardaValar1: I'll read it, Luthien : )
LuthienV: Not much of a writer, arts my thing : )
crasyboy45: im confuzzled not
VardaValar1: Speaking of, good luck with your painting!
crasyboy45: i have to reread the books
VardaValar1: We tend to refer back to conversations from long ago, and
all the books
FanduilasV: No worries Crasy I am still at it lol
VardaValar1: Feel free to ask questions
Menelvagor Valar: crossing fingers seemed to have worked :)
VardaValar1: We love to talk
VardaValar1: yay finger-crossing!
Daughter of Thingol and Melian, beloved of Beren who called her Tinuviel
VardaValar1: Tinuviel the Nightingale : )
crasyboy45: i will never remember but i sure enough info shoved in at
one time something wil stay hehe
ArPharazonV: I used to wonder about that, as Lomelinde was Elvish for
nightingale... then I found out he called her Nightingale in his own
VardaValar1: That human!
crasyboy45: what ddoes Orelinde mean
crasyboy45: i have a friend on uo named that
VardaValar1: the linde part refers to being a singer
crasyboy45: so like a singer of metal?
crasyboy45: like a smith maybe
ArPharazonV: or one of them modern singers like.. what's that band
called who won the European songfestival?
VardaValar1: hmm, Ori, Orome, Orodreth...
crasyboy45: what does that mean.. . .
Eonwe Valar: Orod is mountain, Orn is tree.
LuthienV: maybe its more like "earth singer" rather than metal
ArPharazonV: mountain singer, eh?
Eonwe Valar: Ost I think is tower.
crasyboy45: gosh you guys do study
Eonwe Valar: I pulled out my Sil :}
crasyboy45: i like earth/ moutian singer better
ArPharazonV: what's the English word for that? yodelling?
Eonwe Valar: mountain singer... so this person yodels?
VardaValar1: Oro is used for red in some spots
Eonwe Valar: hehe, thinking the same thing there, Phar :}
VardaValar1: Orome is "horn-blowing"
FanduilasV: heheh I like that
Eonwe Valar: pardon, "Os(t)" is "fortress"
crasyboy45: mayb it means they work with the earth singer doesnt mean
VardaValar1: Orodruin "mountain of red flame"
VardaValar1: Orod is a form of mountain ered
crasyboy45: mountian singer
Eonwe Valar: Ered is plural.
crasyboy45: maybe she is a dwarf
crasyboy45: . . .
Eonwe Valar: Orod is singular.
VardaValar1: Ormenel is "day-heaven"
VardaValar1: So Or could be "day"
VardaValar1: Thanks Eonwe, sounds right.
VardaValar1: Ormenel is Sindarin
crasyboy45: im llost now
VardaValar1: Ormal is Quenya for "lofty gold"
crasyboy45: odod is sungular for day?
Eonwe Valar: Orod is singular for Mountain.
VardaValar1: Orelinde. hmmm.
Eonwe Valar: Ered is the Plural form.
VardaValar1: Orod is "mountain", ered is "mountains"
VardaValar1: this may not be Orod
crasyboy45: layb is is orel?
crasyboy45: does just plain inde mean anyhting
VardaValar1: Indis is a name
VardaValar1: Quenya Elvish
VardaValar1: Here's some good stuff in the Sil
VardaValar1: orn is "tree"
crasyboy45: whats the Sil
VardaValar1: orod "mountain"
VardaValar1: os(t) is "fortress"
VardaValar1: Pardon, Sil is short for Silmarillion for the terminally lazy.
crasyboy45: and that is?
VardaValar1: The Silmarillion is a book by JRR Tolkien
VardaValar1: but his notes, put together by Christopher Tolkien, his
VardaValar1: Chris tried to make the notes into a coherent book form
VardaValar1: Gives background to JRRT's universe.
VardaValar1: Does that help? : )
crasyboy45: i want that
VardaValar1: Get it. : )
crasyboy45: not hardback though
VardaValar1: Used book store paperback work?
crasyboy45: yess ma'am
VardaValar1: Poor Christopher. He had to wade through masses of nearly
Eonwe Valar: Checked through the Lorebook, nothing for "Ore"
crasyboy45: im sure he felt lead to do it
VardaValar1: There was a paper shortage in England, so some were
scrawled on the back of an envelope and marked over
ArPharazonV: eck, Well of Souls is at it again, looping the sound even
though I shut down the game
VardaValar1: ouch, Phar
crasyboy45: oh well of sould
crasyboy45: thats the fre game
VardaValar1: Aye : )
VardaValar1: Want to download and try it?
ArPharazonV: really annoying... gonna save in 2 parts again, and reboot
VardaValar1: We use world Aerianell
FanduilasV: the server is screwed up tonight
crasyboy45: yes i want to dl it
VardaValar1: Sounds familiar for all games. : )
ArPharazonV: ok, saved... see ya soon
LuthienV: You two are already on?! Gah...need to log on then
ArPharazonV has left the room.
crasyboy45: ima join it :D
crasyboy45: you guys will hook me up :D
VardaValar1: Orodreth is here :-)
Orodreth V has entered the room.
Oessala has entered the room.
FanduilasV: Orod :-D
crasyboy45: heyas orodreth
LuthienV: Heya Oro and Oess
Orodreth V: /me waves
VardaValar1: Another WoS player : )
crasyboy45: whats the site to dl it
Orodreth V: www.synthetic-reality.com
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
crasyboy45: awesome thanks
LuthienV: welcome back Phara
crasyboy45: wb :D
Orodreth V: Aiya Ar.
ArPharazonV: that's it... not going to play WoS during the meeting
Orodreth V: you get to 20 yet? :o
ArPharazonV: ehrr... 16.3, I think
Orodreth V: /me hides his level
ArPharazonV: you at 100 yet?
crasyboy45: can someone donate 10 bucks for me . . .
LuthienV: I think I have alot of catching up to do...
FanduilasV: 18. ssomething
crasyboy45: makes me feel bad not giving them somehing for what they do
VardaValar1: I started another character because I started playing on a
Orodreth V: Crasy: why you need $10?
VardaValar1: Go mow a lawn. : )
crasyboy45: . . . i might have to hehe
LuthienV: I see you have a Guild tag Oro
Orodreth V: Yarr.
Orodreth V: You non-GS can apply once you're at level 20.
Orodreth V: And then I can make Varda leader. :-)
VardaValar1: I won't be on much, Oro
LuthienV: whats our channel again?
crasyboy45: there arnt any viuses or anything right
crasyboy45: i hat fixing my puter lol
VardaValar1: Is it possible to make the channel a word instead of a
ArPharazonV: what's so hard to remember about 8492?
LuthienV: everything : )
Orodreth V: No, unfortunatyly.
crasyboy45: 8492 is nothing
ArPharazonV: I didn't write it down, and still remember it by head
after all this time... surely it's not that hard?
crasyboy45: we have to have our social to get lunch at school
Orodreth V: Back in 10 minutes.
crasyboy45: i dont eat lunch often
LuthienV: I'm not good at memorizing, thats Eomers thing, he inherited
it all...left none for me
VardaValar1: Write it on a post it on the wall : )
FanduilasV: il the forum
FanduilasV: thats a wee bit silent anyways
VardaValar1: The Well of Souls may need its own thread : )
VardaValar1: That's because we're always talking together in person. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: órë "dawn,
Eonwe Valar: Found in the lorebook.
VardaValar1: yay for Beren and his Lorebook!
ArPharazonV: dawnsinger? sounds like a rooster
Eonwe Valar: He comments it's probably not a valid word in mature quenya, but
hey, it works :}
VardaValar1: Quenya is an Elvish language, the old style, like Latin is
FanduilasV: its like finnish, I read somewhere
VardaValar1: Most elves in Middle-earth switched to Sindarin
FanduilasV: those who speak a celtic tongue, probably learn Sindarin
crasyboy45: sindarin= new elfish like english compared to latin?
VardaValar1: aye : )
crasyboy45: el fish sounds smelly
FanduilasV: It uses an insertion system as for example wl
FanduilasV: welsh and gaelic
FanduilasV: sindarin I mean
FanduilasV: I have the gaelic ;-)
Eonwe Valar: You get ò by holding ALT and typing 149.
VardaValar1: Does this to me
Eonwe Valar: ë by holding ALT and typing 137.
crasyboy45: i dont have that on my puter
VardaValar1: It went tiny in thetype bar
VardaValar1: Can hardly see it
Eonwe Valar: interesting
VardaValar1: there we go, normal again
Eonwe Valar: you don't have an ALT key on your computer, crasy?
crasyboy45: i dont have a number pad
crasyboy45: its a laptop
VardaValar1: I have an alt key, but it didn't make the character
Eonwe Valar: If you have numbers, use those.
Eonwe Valar: It should work.
Eonwe Valar: Or it's supposed to..
Eonwe Valar: bah
VardaValar1: hold down alt while typing then let go to enter it
crasyboy45: i know how hehe
Eonwe Valar: oh well, now you know how to do it when you do have a
crasyboy45: i had to do it for sanish
VardaValar1: Only worked with the number pad
Eonwe Valar: Fortunately, I haven't had to type Spanish much. If I
have, I just drew in the ~ over the n myself :}
crasyboy45: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~``
ArPharazonV: __________________|\_______\o/_____ ___
FanduilasV: I have the international american keyboard set up
ArPharazonV: shark attack!
FanduilasV: very nice
VardaValar1: If this were the business meeting, you'd be in trouble. ;-)
crasyboy45: dundun dundun
VardaValar1: No worries
crasyboy45: GLAD IT ISNT
VardaValar1: Please don't shout : )
ArPharazonV: if it's stormy, you get ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|\~~~~~~
LuthienV: so which part of that is the shark?
VardaValar1: The fin sticking up
crasyboy45: i dont even want to know what she means
ArPharazonV: aye, the fin
LuthienV: wait nevermind, see it now
crasyboy45: oh lol
VardaValar1: Head and two arms out of the water
crasyboy45: i get it
crasyboy45: im kind of slow
LuthienV: I see that now, very funny and gruesome of you Phara : )
ArPharazonV: saw it in guildchat on WoW :-)
VardaValar1: High Guard guild
VardaValar1: How goes the download, crasy?
crasyboy45: almost done
VardaValar1: Cool : )
Eonwe Valar: Looking up órë in the Lorebook now reveals that in mature Quenya, it means "rising" or
Eonwe Valar: ó and it's ALT 162 as it turns out :} 149 has the
accent pointing in the wrong direction.
LuthienV: Interesting, so what would our final translation be?
Eonwe Valar: well, you could go with Dawnsinger, or you could say it
means one who sings from the heart I suppose.
Eonwe Valar: órë doesn't mean physical heart btw,..
VardaValar1: We have Amillo the Dusksinger :-)
Eonwe Valar: Further research shows it reflects "inner mind"
FanduilasV: brothers and sisters of my heart
Eonwe Valar: órë = rising and órë=heart are
FanduilasV: I am afraid our roads have to seperate for now
FanduilasV: yet my heart tells me we will meet again soon
Eonwe Valar: Take care Finduilas :}
LuthienV: Namarie Finduilas
VardaValar1: May it be so : )
Eonwe Valar: May the stars shine upon your face :}
FanduilasV: Until we meet again :-)
FanduilasV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: More sifting: "A person's "spirit" meaning his or her
general personality and attitude may be rendered by the word
órë, in LotR defined as "heart, inner mind" "
Eonwe Valar: And that appears to be all I can glean.
ArPharazonV: could be related to "heart"
ArPharazonV: as in, the meaning above :-)
Eonwe Valar: "(q.v.), cf. PM:337, where it is said that "there dwelt in
her [Galadriel] the noble and generous spirit (órë) of the
Vanyar". " Is what continues after that part.
Orodreth V: Oh, back. >.>
VardaValar1: spirit then : )
VardaValar1: Welcome back : )
LuthienV: so spiritual singer?
ArPharazonV: Orodreth, me haf a WoS question
ArPharazonV: do you know the problem where the sound may freeze and loop during the
game, and it won't go away even when shutting down the game?
ArPharazonV: any idea how to get rid of it without having to reboot?
Orodreth V: I've heard of it.
Eonwe Valar: Dawn Singer is the more likely meaning.
Orodreth V: Have you checked the FAQ/SuperFAQ?
ArPharazonV: I did, couldn't find anything
Eonwe Valar: I would venture to say that, poetically speaking, one who
"sings from his/her heart" would be telling the truth.
Eonwe Valar: Or just singing and really meaning it :}
VardaValar1: Nice : )
Eonwe Valar: Afk for a quick sec.
Orodreth V: Ar, you can try searching around on the BBs..I'll ask D,
but beyond that, you can always e-mail Dan.
VardaValar1: Phar is having problems with his monitor too
ArPharazonV: well, that's not WoS related
Orodreth V: http://www.synthetic-reality.com/cgi-bin/ulti
Orodreth V: Look in the FAQ thread there.
Orodreth V: If it's not there..
Eonwe Valar: Back
VardaValar1: Welcome back : )
Eonwe Valar: Thanks ;}
VardaValar1: crasy has WoS downloaded. He'll need some
talking through to join you guys.
GilraenV: well, I'm off, folks
LuthienV: Say hi to Gwaihir for me
GilraenV has left the room.
ArPharazonV: darn, can't see the thing in the FAQ of that message board
crasyboy45: these games are so addicting
Orodreth V: :o
VardaValar1: Too true
crasyboy45: i have been trying to getoff for like 15 minutes
Orodreth V: Varda, you're a ranger, right?
Orodreth V: I'll pick up a set of Coliseum equip for you after I get
one for Luthien.
VardaValar1: I will not be playing much, but I will try to come now and
LuthienV: whats your WoS name Crasy?
crasyboy45: i dont know how to start
Orodreth V: Someone explaint o him how to download Aeri. I've forgotten
LuthienV: errr...do you remember Varda? I've forgotten too...
VardaValar1: It gives a list
VardaValar1: a list of worlds
VardaValar1: and you choose
crasyboy45: i have WoS
VardaValar1: I'll dig it put and look
VardaValar1: you automatically get Evergreen
VardaValar1: but then it lets you pick a world to download
VardaValar1: let me pull it up and look for more specifics
Orodreth V: You can keep playing.
Orodreth V: You won't lose progress.
Orodreth V: Just check back in 5 minutes for the server.
VardaValar1: Found it
VardaValar1: when WoS comes up
VardaValar1: The top line says "Check On-Line for New Worlds"
VardaValar1: Click it
VardaValar1: A list comes up
VardaValar1: Click Aerianell
Eonwe Valar: OK, gaming info for those of you who whispered me has been
Eonwe Valar: Congratulations on being the first updatees for the GPMU :}
LuthienV: thanks Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: MP :}
Orodreth V: Oooh, can I whisper you too? >.>
VardaValar1: Thanks Eonwe
crasyboy45: whats the server
VardaValar1: It's a general one right now, any multiplayer
VardaValar1: Any of them can give you the chosen world of Aerianell
VardaValar1: I think it was the top of the selections : )
VardaValar1: Orodreth was working on a server, I think, but it's not up
at this time?
Orodreth V: Still not letting me connect to it. :|
VardaValar1: Where do you want to play, it asks
Orodreth V: I'm gonna talk with a old school friend of mine who used to
run a WoS server, see if he can set one up for us on an extra box.
VardaValar1: Multiplayer Game
crasyboy45: . . .
VardaValar1: Any Public MIX Game Server
VardaValar1: then Play Game
crasyboy45: okay i kjust opend game for first time
crasyboy45: ther eis this list thing
crasyboy45: what do i choose
Eonwe Valar: Anyone can whisper me their gaming info so long as I'm
still on AIM :}
VardaValar1: Orodreth, I'm getting lost too
VardaValar1: It's the one that says Aerianell, right?
Orodreth V: Yea, D had to restart.
VardaValar1: About half way down the list
VardaValar1: Dan is the guy running the server we were using
VardaValar1: Select it and click Connect
VardaValar1: Says World in Progress Aerianell
VardaValar1: click Aerianell
VardaValar1: See the king?
VardaValar1: Were you Ultima? :-)
VardaValar1: I'm going in as Fainan, but I'll usually be on Elbereth
during other times in the week
crasyboy45: i found out you have to dl the world
Eonwe Valar: Make sure you send names you can be found under in the
games as well.
Eonwe Valar: Ones you want to be found under anyway :}
crasyboy45: i am off uo now
Eonwe Valar: For the GPMU :}
ArPharazonV: allright, time for bed
ArPharazonV: saving and sending
Eonwe Valar: Sleep well :}
crasyboy45: what should i choose
crasyboy45: am i a pker
LuthienV: we're not
crasyboy45: what should i chose
crasyboy45: i wanted to be a crafter
crasyboy45: but there arnt any here
LuthienV: I don't really know enough about the game yet to recommend a
LuthienV: Don't want to recommend something hard or boring : )
VardaValar1: Orodreth is the only experienced one here :-)
VardaValar1: maybe Pharazon
crasyboy45: ORO where is he
Orodreth V: Luthien, I have almost all your low coli equipment.
crasyboy45: hey oro
Orodreth V: Thing refuses to drop the ring of air though. :|
VardaValar1: This is just a free game, not heavy duty stuff
crasyboy45: anyone got an extra 120 bux. . .
crasyboy45: wanna pay my Wow
LuthienV: If only i did...
Orodreth V: $120? oO
crasyboy45: for a year
crasyboy45: oro what should i choose
crasyboy45: nae class
crasyboy45: name class??
crasyboy45: whats easy
crasyboy45: male female rat other
VardaValar1: What do you enjoy? Warrior with a sword
VardaValar1: that is gender : )
VardaValar1: Try male
VardaValar1: Ranger with a bow
crasyboy45: beast master
Orodreth V: Easy class?
VardaValar1: And there are casters
Orodreth V: Monk's a fairly cake class.
Orodreth V: Paladin is very straightforward too.
crasyboy45: what do yall know bout the druids
crasyboy45: i mean beast masters
Orodreth V: Paladin is overall probally the easiest class to get into.
Orodreth V: Monk has a could special things.
Orodreth V: BM is average.
Orodreth V: One of the few classes that gets tame, which can be fun.
crasyboy45: i want to tame hehe
ArPharazonV: I chose the Beastmaster!
crasyboy45: on uo in a tamer crafter
ArPharazonV: and tamed a wasp ;-)
crasyboy45: can yall help me find a great
LuthienV: I wanted tame too, but i chose Monk :/
Orodreth V: Monk is the most self-sustaining class.
ArPharazonV: it's sent, Varda
ArPharazonV: both parts
Orodreth V: Luthien, recamp.
ArPharazonV: Namarie all
ArPharazonV has left the room.
LuthienV: 88? Wow you've been working
Orodreth V: Heh.
Orodreth V: Not too hard if you know how to. :-)
Orodreth V: Not it really gets boring, though.
crasyboy45: where do i put my skill points if in a BM
Orodreth V: I'm just sitting there killing the same guy over and over.
Orodreth V: Er.
Orodreth V: 4 to str, 1 to wis, 3 to sta, 2 to dex.
crasyboy45: and what about the rest of the points
crasyboy45: lol ther eare 20
Orodreth V: Repeat.
Orodreth V: Your first set has 20 becasue you don't gan any from 99 to
Orodreth V: You'll find out why later.
crasyboy45: should i use them all
Orodreth V: yes
crasyboy45: i jsut use random
Orodreth V: do another 4 str/1 wis/3 sta/2 dex
Orodreth V: just do that every level
crasyboy45: im making my player
Orodreth V: Varda, you on 8492?
VardaValar1: I will get on it
VardaValar1: Reminding myself how to do stuff :-)
crasyboy45: where do i go in the worls
Orodreth V: Hold on.
Orodreth V: Go into the mystic grotto and learn wher everything there
crasyboy45: this is werid
Orodreth V: 's been said.
crasyboy45: umm i lost networkconnection
crasyboy45: he floats around hehe
Orodreth V: econnect then
crasyboy45: YAY i killed a slug
Orodreth V: /me cheers
crasyboy45: umm i died
VardaValar1: I died a lot starting
VardaValar1: Helped to equip the items!
crasyboy45: how do you res
VardaValar1: Get something to fight with
VardaValar1: go to healer in town near gate
Orodreth V: Go to the mystic grotto
Orodreth V: then the, er
VardaValar1: type /im 8492 to
get in game help :-)
Orodreth V: Temple of healing
VardaValar1: it is the guild talk spot :-)
VardaValar1: Going to Father's Day dinner the kids made :-)
crasyboy45: where is that
VardaValar1 has left the room.
crasyboy45: well im outie nice meeting yall
crasyboy45: i mean you guys
Eonwe Valar: Take care
Eonwe Valar: Once again, Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out
Eonwe Valar: Nice meeting you as well crasy :}
crasyboy45: whats that mean
crasyboy45: im killing tolkien lol
LuthienV: Too late for that :p
LuthienV: It means Farewell
crasyboy45: i have to reread the books
LuthienV: you'll hear it alot if you hang around us :-)
crasyboy45: i havent read in 7 years lol
crasyboy45: i like learning even though im no good with facts
crasyboy45: lol i said pippin looked in that ball thing
mordacil: its da
Eonwe Valar: hello
Eonwe Valar: Meeting is over :}
mordacil: bare nasesi-T'z
Eonwe Valar: How goes it?
Eonwe Valar: Well, I think I shall head out. Seems every member who's
going to whisper me their gamign info has :}
mordacil has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Take care all, good night, have fun, and sleep well :}
Eonwe Valar: In whatever order best suits you :]