Valar Guild

June 11, 2006 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Ar-Pharazon-(V) and Varda-(Valar)

Attending (13):
    Members: ArPharazonV, ArwenV1 (invisible except exiting), Elros-(V)/ LouieKisKowsKi, Eonwe Valar, Finduilas-(V)(was Finduilas-TV)/BhonTuath, Finrod-(V)/TH0R0NGIL,  Mablung-(V)/DemonicHorde69,  Menelvagor Valar, Scatha-(V)/STEvilaim, Orodreth V, Thranduil-(V)/Gamatzgamatz, VardaValar1 (presiding)
    Visitor: Amarie-V-ex/mecoons

Meeting begins
    Orome-(Valar) in Brasil for nine days.
    Barahir-(V) did very well on his exams, wrote it up in tabloid form.
    Menelvagor-(Valar) possibly moving
    Finduilas-(TV) became Finduilas-(V) during the Tolkien part of the meeting. BhonTuath is her AIM name.
    Webworking computer now with new hardwire and location, operational again.
        Errand of Fate
        Black Breath
        The Last to Dance
        An End
       Manwe's Hall
       Earendil's Ship
    Personal Page:
    Eve Online
       Players at the meeting: Finduilas-(V), Orodreth-(V)
    Well of Souls (also in the After-meeting)
       World: Aerianell
       Private guild chat channel type /im 4892
       Valar Private Server: available whenever Orodreth-(V)'s computer is online.
       Some player names: Calion, Elbereth, Fainan, Finduilas, Orodreth, Tindomeral.
    Frozen Throne
    Lord of the Rings Online
       LotRO Thread, buddy listing
       Beta (Thranduil signed up too)
       Blizzard Background Downloader causing lag and/or crashes. Under Preferences, disable background patch piece loading.
       Talent calculators on the WoW site now improved for Internet Explorer.
       WoW Europe
       WoW Lothar
          New Horde server for guild: Uldaman. Type /join Valar and add members to buddy list.
       Thranduil-(V) quitting WoW because it consumed too much of his life. Plans to come on LotRO with us.
    Crysis, sequel to Farcry
    Battlenet: our bot (done by Orodreth-V) in the Valar channel is down until further notices as it is having peculiar problems.
    Faramir's ways of interrogation
    Movie oddities

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
Gamatzgamatz has entered the room.
Gamatzgamatz: hey guys :-D
ArPharazonV: hey
VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
Gamatzgamatz: brb one sec got a customer, im at work
ArPharazonV: on my way, just levelling some alts tonight
Gamatzgamatz: lol btw i signefd up for the beta :-)
VardaValar1: No problem
VardaValar1: yay!
VardaValar1: That's a first. Error message says invited too many at once.
DemonicHorde69 has entered the room.
STEvilaim has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Heya : )
STEvilaim: 'lo
ArPharazonV: haha
mecoons has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya : )
mecoons: Heloo
mecoons: i can't actually stay tonight i have a freind visiting
VardaValar1: No problem. Glad you could drop by. : )
mecoons: but i thank you kindly for the invite
VardaValar1: Have a good visit!
mecoons: thanks
VardaValar1: Feel free to recruit... ;-)
mecoons: littlle low on members
VardaValar1: I had an invite problem
VardaValar1: Going to try it again
VardaValar1: Evil error message
mecoons: lol allright well you guys have fun
VardaValar1: ok :-)
VardaValar1: You too!
mecoons: bye
mecoons has left the room.
VardaValar1: There we go. No error message, so maybe it worked. : )
BhonTuath has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Are all you folks in games and other projects right now?
VardaValar1: Aiya Finduilas : )
STEvilaim: a bit
BhonTuath: Aiya Varda - shiop where it should be aye
VardaValar1: What ship did you just dock?
BhonTuath: the Nargothrond I
VardaValar1: In Well of Souls?
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
BhonTuath: na h in Eve
VardaValar1: Aiya Eonwe : )
BhonTuath: aya Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: Heya
VardaValar1: Eve Online, ahh.
BhonTuath: thats it]
STEvilaim: im already here eonwe :P
VardaValar1: You make your own ship?
ArPharazonV: I was in WoW, levelling 2 of my young alts from 1 to 6...
ArPharazonV: but in nothing right now
VardaValar1: Scatha is such a big dragon we have to invite both head and tail ends to be sure.
VardaValar1: okies
STEvilaim: :o
STEvilaim: i'm just big boned!
VardaValar1: Too right
VardaValar1: The fangs alone tend to hang on this round door.
STEvilaim: :D
Gamatzgamatz: back :-D
VardaValar1: Welcome back : )
Gamatzgamatz: thanks!!
Eonwe Valar: wb
VardaValar1: So we have Finduilas docking a boat in Eve Online, and Pharazon from World of WarCraft (which I just left)
BhonTuath: aiya there @ varda you get your own ship when ye enter
VardaValar1: Where are the rest of you?
BhonTuath: its docked now
BhonTuath: and close
BhonTuath: d
VardaValar1: Nice! Makes me want to try it. : )
Eonwe Valar: I am here and on our Forum.
VardaValar1: A good spot. : )
Eonwe Valar: And at my desk.
VardaValar1: I'm also on the webwork page. Another story, quite short this time.
ArPharazonV: so today I got my first real experiences playing a hunter and a warrior.... they're quite fun :-)
VardaValar1: Hunter for the most fun class in WoW ; )
VardaValar1: You are all entitled to your own opinions. : )
VardaValar1: Today isn't another holiday by any chance?
Eonwe Valar: None that I know of. Father's Day isn't until next Sunday.
ArPharazonV: every day's a holiday when you're in the Valarguild!
VardaValar1: Gamatz/Thranduil-(V) is at work and with us at once. Shades of Finwe. : )
VardaValar1: Quite right, Phar : )
Gamatzgamatz: 8-) lol yea i finally got a chance to get into a valar meeting
Gamatzgamatz: lol slow day at work
Eonwe Valar: congrats :}
VardaValar1: Slow day here too. Must all be out gaming. : )
VardaValar1: Fangorn, Bilbo, Sauron, and Eowyn say hi
Gamatzgamatz: haha yea, just cant wait till lotro comes out
VardaValar1: Elwing was on WoW and a bunch of others
Eonwe Valar: Heya to them.
VardaValar1: Should be a natural place for us. : ) LotRO
Gamatzgamatz: yea
VardaValar1: Fundin was there too
VardaValar1: WoW I mean
VardaValar1: So I guess this is the crop. Maybe we can make it through quickly then. ; )

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership News:
VardaValar1: Orome is in Brasil for about 9 days for work, but said hi on the Forum if you'd like to reply to him there.
VardaValar1: Barahir-V wrote up a tabloid-style paper to amuse the guild with his latest accomplishments, up on the News as a link.
VardaValar1: Finduilas joined us last meeting, Bhon Tuath here. : )
VardaValar1: Would you like to say your "few words" to introduce yourself, Finduilas?
BhonTuath: Sure
DemonicHorde69 has left the room.
BhonTuath: weel I am newly arrived in the Valar Gruild as you know and my home land is Scotland
BhonTuath: I live on the Isle of Skye
BhonTuath: I have read Tolkien for many years and started online gaming recently
BhonTuath: What sort of things would you like to know?
Gamatzgamatz: welcommen :-D !!
VardaValar1: What made you interested in joining the Valar Guild?
VardaValar1: although you sort of answered that already. ; )
BhonTuath: Hmm I saw the link in a links page some where and the name fascinated me lol
BhonTuath: when I saw the forum and so on I read the aims and that was it
VardaValar1: Yay : )
BhonTuath: I mean what the guild was about
VardaValar1: Glad to have a kindred spirit
BhonTuath: Glad to have found u too
VardaValar1: What would you most like to do with the guild?
BhonTuath: I 'd like to discuss Tolkien and then play with you together on LotrO
VardaValar1: Sounds great : )
BhonTuath: maybe we meet beforehand in space lol
VardaValar1: Thank you for coming today. We hope you return again for meetings. : )
VardaValar1: Any other membership news?

VardaValar1: Web Report:
VardaValar1: The happiest news in my corner is that the main webworking computer is operational again.
VardaValar1: New items for the Tolkien site this week:
VardaValar1: Stories:
VardaValar1: "Errand of Fate" by Finduilas : )
VardaValar1: Would you like to tell us a little about what got you started writing this story?
BhonTuath: Sure - as you know the sword of Isildur itself plays an important part in LotR
BhonTuath: but nothing is known about Ohtar who brought the shards of Narsil
BhonTuath: I wondered what he would think and do
BhonTuath: while he took the shards
VardaValar1: Thank you. Good thinking.
VardaValar1: We have another story up this week:
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: "Black Breath" by Cassia-TV and Siobhan-TV
VardaValar1: Aiya Menelvagor :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
Gamatzgamatz: hey menelvagor
Menelvagor Valar: small turnout tonight..
VardaValar1: 11 chapters
VardaValar1: Aye, surprised me too.
STEvilaim: lucky you got me.. someone phoned and thats the only reason i was awake ;-)
VardaValar1: We are lucky. : )
LouieKisKowsKi has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Elros : )
BhonTuath: what are ye complaining they are coming hehe
VardaValar1: Poetry had two additions this week:
LouieKisKowsKi: aiya, sorry I cannot stay long
BhonTuath: aiya Elros , I am Fanduilas and aiya Menel
VardaValar1: No problem, glad you could drop by : )
VardaValar1: Under Poetry, both were written by new member Merewen-TV
VardaValar1: "The Last to Dance"
VardaValar1: about Eowyn
VardaValar1: and
VardaValar1: "An End" about Frodo.
VardaValar1: Pardon, several windows
VardaValar1: These are Merewen's membership entries for Tolkien-only
VardaValar1: All the new folk would really like some feedback for their new entries, even a thank you, as they tend to be a little nervous about their reception.
VardaValar1: Feel free to email them or talk here : )
BhonTuath: hehe I was very nervous
BhonTuath: as it is my first story as such in Middle Earth or in general for a long time
LouieKisKowsKi: hey i heart you guys, i have to go, be well and check my site if you like, greetngs to all, long weekend i have to got o work and act like a civillian
VardaValar1: Take care
LouieKisKowsKi: namarie
LouieKisKowsKi has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Take care
VardaValar1: Elros' website has grown a lot, he says, and here's his link to his personal page:
VardaValar1: Ok, onwards
VardaValar1: New Art for this week:
VardaValar1: Turgon has been his busy self : )
VardaValar1: He put up "Manwe's Halls" and
VardaValar1: "Earendil's Ship"
VardaValar1: with two more in the collection that haven't yet been loaded into his Cave.
VardaValar1: They'll be on the News when they go up
VardaValar1: We lost Menelvagor?
VardaValar1: no, there he is : )
VardaValar1: Menel, do you have any Web news?
Menelvagor Valar: not after last weeks last'minute updates :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe stepped out for a minute, should be back shortly. He's been working on a php program to help make thumbnails for the art page.
VardaValar1: Ahh, thanks
Menelvagor Valar: I do have some membership news though :-)
VardaValar1: I am behind with putting up the Lothar WoW member updates
VardaValar1: Go ahead, Menel.
Menelvagor Valar: well, at the start of the week, I seem to have swallowed a whole bunch of butterflies.
Menelvagor Valar: and that's put me in a really good mood.
VardaValar1: Not Black Emperors, I trust?
Menelvagor Valar: and apparently, I wasn't the only one hit with a butterfly attack :-)
Menelvagor Valar: nope, no Black Emperors.
Menelvagor Valar: just the ones that frollick about in your tummy :-)
Menelvagor Valar: and, I am seriously considering (and actually looking) to move to Rotterdam :-)
VardaValar1: Is that pretty far?
Menelvagor Valar: just about 200 miles southwest.
Menelvagor Valar: a lot nearer to Fladrif and Pharzie from where I am now.
VardaValar1: How long from now do you think it might be before that happens?
VardaValar1: Cool : )
ArPharazonV: a lot nearer? you'll pass us straight by if you go that way :-)
ArPharazonV: besides, Flad is still in Sweden ;-)
BhonTuath: we might pass you in autumn then - Menel, when we take the ferry across
Menelvagor Valar: with a little luck, and all goes well, a month or two.
Menelvagor Valar: why don't you drop by then?
ArPharazonV: tell us when, we might make it a guild-gathering :-)
VardaValar1: Very cool : )
BhonTuath: Lets see when the time is nearer, but no reason why not "}
BhonTuath: :-)
VardaValar1: Why should Texas have all the fun? : )
Menelvagor Valar: Will do :-)
Menelvagor Valar: but it's still a whole lot of planning, and not much reality yet.
Menelvagor Valar: depends on a good deal.
VardaValar1: Job or school taking you there?
VardaValar1: Probably Pharazon's sparkling personality!
ArPharazonV: or luuuv?
Menelvagor Valar: luuuv :P
Menelvagor Valar: and a couple other reasons.
VardaValar1: Don't starve. : )
Menelvagor Valar: but I can probably transfer schools :-)
Menelvagor Valar: that's one of the things that have to go just right.
VardaValar1: Do some heavy duty planning and it can happen if you're lucky. : )
Menelvagor Valar: not much time for planning in the coming weeks.
Menelvagor Valar: 3 test weeks coming up.
VardaValar1: May your mind be sharp!
VardaValar1: Any further Web News, now that Eonwe is back?
VardaValar1: He says no, so on to the next.

VardaValar1: Gaming News:
VardaValar1: Has anyone played anything besides World of WarCraft?
VardaValar1: Finduilas reports she was on Eve Online
ArPharazonV: a bit of Well of Souls, but nobody of you online, unless I was on the wrong server
STEvilaim: freelancer sometimes, limited to what my laptop can play really.. and dial-up.
VardaValar1: Aerienell was the server.
VardaValar1: Scatha, maybe you could handle Well of Souls on that?
ArPharazonV: and I also continued playing through Escape from Monkey Island, but as that's a single-player adventure, it won't be of much interest here
ArPharazonV: aye, I was on that server, but nobody online ;-)
VardaValar1: I was on WoW, sorry. : )
Gamatzgamatz: ive been playing the frozen throne a bit, since im sadly quitting WoW
ArPharazonV: thought so ;-)
BhonTuath: I was on for the first three days , quite a few times
VardaValar1: Money problem? usual thing
Gamatzgamatz: lol nope, it was consuming my life
STEvilaim: i'll have to look into well of souls.. seems there was a reason i passed it up though..
Gamatzgamatz: once i quit like a whole new world opened up lol :-P
VardaValar1: ahh, then you need to pick some times, like every other day, the way Elwing handles it. : )
Gamatzgamatz: now im just prepping myself for Lotro
BhonTuath: but Iprobably the wrong time for ye, then I got somewhat disttracted .. hhehe
Gamatzgamatz: yea i should
VardaValar1: That could be November unless you luck out on the beta.
Gamatzgamatz: i WISH we all can get into beta
Gamatzgamatz: everybody in this guild
VardaValar1: That would be great : )
ArPharazonV: our WoW-guild has several prominent players leaving too... it's a shame
VardaValar1: We are shooting for it by putting the guild name in the beta application
VardaValar1: They could pick us by guild.
Gamatzgamatz: nicee, cuz when i filled it out, i followed the instructions you emailed us
VardaValar1: yay! We do have a shot. : )
Gamatzgamatz: by the way speaking of the application, i never did that test where you copy and paste what you ahve in your system, does that downgrade the shot I have getting into the beta?
VardaValar1: I don't know if it will help, but everybody also say hi on the LotRO forum's Valar Guild thread. : )
Gamatzgamatz: lol will do
VardaValar1: I hope not, because I never figured that one out. : )
VardaValar1: Did anyone else figure out how to do that?
Eonwe Valar: If it's not required for the application, I wouldn't worry about it. At least I didn't.
VardaValar1: It's not required.
Eonwe Valar: the diaxlog thing?
BhonTuath: Where have you got the Vala Guild thread on Shadows of Angmar?
VardaValar1: the last part with the text
Eonwe Valar: Dxdiag rather?
VardaValar1: type into the Search in the Kinships, Valar Guild
VardaValar1: It should show up
VardaValar1: If you see our names in there, that helps you add them to your forum buddy list. : )
VardaValar1: And you can use their names to find their posts.
BhonTuath: ah got it
BhonTuath: ok
VardaValar1: Yay : )
VardaValar1: Might toss an URL in here : )
BhonTuath: php?t=657&highlight=Valar+Guild
VardaValar1: We also have a LotRO web page put up by Elatan with handy links and info on it.
VardaValar1: Thank you. : )
BhonTuath: always glad to be of service :-)
VardaValar1: There we go. Now you can all jump in and say hi. : )
Gamatzgamatz: just bumped :-D
VardaValar1: hehe - thanks! : )
VardaValar1: Added you to my buddy list : )
BhonTuath: oki hehe
BhonTuath: just wondering how i get the actual pic in the signature and not only the link ..
VardaValar1: Menel, you might be able to answer that?
TH0R0NGIL has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Finrod-V aka Thorongil : )
Menelvagor Valar: errr..
Menelvagor Valar: what was the question?
VardaValar1: Or someone else : )
Menelvagor Valar: pciture in sig on the MB?
Menelvagor Valar: picture*
VardaValar1: No, on LotRO Forum
VardaValar1: Might be the same as for our Forum aka MB
Menelvagor Valar: sorry, but I wouldn't know, never worked with pics in sigs.
VardaValar1: Fanduil, I see your pic on LotRO
Menelvagor Valar: but, it might be much like standard webwork.
Eonwe Valar: try using the following:
Eonwe Valar: <img src="">
Menelvagor Valar: ah, that's it.
VardaValar1: Tuor, Elatan and Merry got their Avatars up too. Maybe View Source?
Eonwe Valar: put your image address in the quotes.
Eonwe Valar: She's referring to an image in her signature.
VardaValar1: Finduilos, I see your avatar up, just had a dreadful typo. :-)
VardaValar1: ah, ok
Eonwe Valar: separate from the avatar.
BhonTuath: yeah but I mean in the signature
Eonwe Valar: Look above for my suggestion.
VardaValar1: Your banner pic.
Eonwe Valar: if they didn't disable images in signatures, then <img src=""> should work.
Eonwe Valar: make sure it's small enough to not take up too much loading time as well. They likely limited images to a certain pixel size.
VardaValar1: Good luck with that.
VardaValar1: Any other non-WoW gaming mentions? DAoC, anything in Battlenet?
Gamatzgamatz: lol there is a guild on battlenet called vengeance of valar, just wanted to point that out
Gamatzgamatz: :-P
VardaValar1: Thanks : )
Gamatzgamatz: lol
VardaValar1: Ok, on to WoW reports.
VardaValar1: ArPharazon, go ahead. : )
ArPharazonV: allrighty
ArPharazonV: haven't seen any valar-peoples online this week, which is a darn shame, but with the few members we have there, it's not too surprising
STEvilaim: /me blames work
ArPharazonV: that's quite possible :-)
Eonwe Valar: That's what happens when you recruit mature, responsible gamers. They have priorities higher than a game sometimes :}
ArPharazonV: our guild/raidgroup still tries to take down Huhuran, getting pretty close, improving our tactics, but she's quite a roadblock, and even Blizzard says it's a badly designed fight :-)
ArPharazonV: I got revered with the Timbermaw this week, and got my final tribal leatherworking pattern
ArPharazonV: I was considering trying to get exalted with Argent Dawn, but since it's pretty pointless to try to get 15000 reputation before the patch, I decided to abandon grinding for a while and focus on some alts
ArPharazonV: got both my mage and hunter from lvl 1 to 6 this week and my warrior to 5
ArPharazonV: concerning our raidloot it was really my week... won 5 items, including a catring, a bearhelm and shoulders, and a few pairs of boots
ArPharazonV: my feral druid is quite happy ;-)
ArPharazonV: and that concludes my report for this week
VardaValar1: Thank you, Pharazon : )
VardaValar1: Eonwe, would you like to give your Lothar WoW report now?
Eonwe Valar: Sure.
Eonwe Valar: This week's questing took Varda, Fangorn, Eonwë, Fundin, Arwen, and Gimli into Zul Farrak. Our Goals: Gahz'rilla, Nekrum's Medallion, and the Divino-matic Rod.
Eonwe Valar: First, it was Varda, Fangorn, Eonwë, and Fundin. We fought our way to Gahz'rilla then defeated the beast.
Eonwe Valar: We were then joined by Arwen. Shortly after that, Fundin had to go, and so Gimli was brought in.
Eonwe Valar: Since Gimli needed Gahz'rilla, and respawns were already popping up, we decided to reset the instance and take a break for selling and repairs.
Eonwe Valar: Gimli was also experiencing some internet problems during this time, so he had to log out. Luckily, he was back about the time we were ready to go back in :}
Eonwe Valar: That done, we went back in and dealt once again with Gahz'rilla.
Eonwe Valar: Bringing him down a second time, we turned our attention to Captain Bly.
Eonwe Valar: Freeing him and his group from their cages, we fought off waves of trolls together, culminating in a faceoff between Nekrum and the Priest that kept him alive.
Eonwe Valar: After we'd done this, Captain Bly turned on us, forcing us to take him down.
Eonwe Valar: We did however reclaim the Divino-matic Rod, thus completing the last quest my Paladin had for Zul-Farrak,... until he stumbles on another that he somehow missed :}
Eonwe Valar: That does it for my WoW Report, but I have something I'd like to remind all the WoW players of.
Eonwe Valar: If you're experience more severe lag than usual, check to see if Blizzard's background Downloader is running.
VardaValar1: especially if you're on Dial-up
Eonwe Valar: It's something they added a couple of patches ago to try and make it wuicker for peeople to get the patch dowloaded by downloading small parts before the big release.
Eonwe Valar: unfortunately, it's part of the Blizzard Downloader, which means people are downloading from you just as you are downloading from others/blizzard.
Eonwe Valar: This can cause lag, cable internet or not.
Eonwe Valar: So if it gets too unable, remember that you can deactivate it.
Eonwe Valar: *unbearable
Eonwe Valar: I'll put up a post on our Forums under General WoW linking to the info on the Downloader.
VardaValar1: We disabled it on all our computers and got Elwing's computer back online that way, thanks to Eonwe's tip in the game.
Eonwe Valar: That that turned out to be what was causing Elwing's problem?
Eonwe Valar: *So that.
VardaValar1: It was indeed. She is now happily playing again. : )
Eonwe Valar: Gald to hear that :]\
Eonwe Valar: Glad even.
Eonwe Valar: One more thing to add to all this.
VardaValar1: She may not sleep much on her WoW nights. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Several people have asked for it, so a server was chosen upon which we can play together on the Horde side.
Eonwe Valar: Varda took a look at the server lists and chose for us Uldaman, one of the new servers.
Eonwe Valar: Primary Guild questing will still be on Lothar, but if it just gets too ugly there due to lag, Uldaman is open for guild members.
VardaValar1: That was our primary reason, lag. We were also wanting to try out some Horde together, about 8 of us, and needed a place.
VardaValar1: Plus Blood Elves will be out someday. ;-)
VardaValar1: We currently are using the Valar channel, not a formal guild branch.
VardaValar1: We type /join Valar
VardaValar1: then we can find each other and put eachother on our buddy lists.
VardaValar1: This is similar to what we do on all games that don't have a formal branch.
VardaValar1: I would be willing to put up an Uldaman members page if you folks would like it. It might be needed more than the Lothar page.
STEvilaim: hey, the evolution3d links are broken on the links page..
VardaValar1: But I'll need more help with your names.
VardaValar1: ouch. What's it under, Scatha?
STEvilaim: making your own game and....
STEvilaim: tolkien online gaming
VardaValar1: ahh, ok. I think they went down. Will have to check that out.
VardaValar1: any further Gaming news?
STEvilaim: Crysis by Crytek looks really cool? ;-)
ArPharazonV: got a new gamecard this week!
VardaValar1: Good Phar!
VardaValar1: Is Crysis multiplayer?
ArPharazonV: dinner at 6, raid at 8, and I found out my gametime had run out at 4...
STEvilaim: yes, sequel to "Farcry"
ArPharazonV: so I had 2 hours to take the bus to the city, buy a new card, and get back home ;-)
ArPharazonV: made it with 30 minutes to spare ;-)
VardaValar1: Congrats to Phar the Speedy. : )
VardaValar1: Scatha, did you have a chance to play it and can you give us the link?
STEvilaim: i'm not in the beta/alpha so no info from me other than whats on the net
VardaValar1: Thanks!
VardaValar1: They should know to put all Valar in these beta tests. ;-)
STEvilaim: :D
ArPharazonV: hmhm, we should take an effort to get us known in the gaming world! :-P
VardaValar1: Free publicity if nothing else. : )
STEvilaim: yup
Eonwe Valar: Conduct yourselves honorably and get out there :}
VardaValar1: Feel free to post on LotRO etc, but keep it polite and informative. : )
BhonTuath: hehe lets make the world tremble when they hear the name Valar .. *eg*]
VardaValar1: What Eonwe said. : )
ArPharazonV: what Finduilas said ;-)
VardaValar1: Let's not, Finduilas : )
Eonwe Valar: Every member of the Valar Guild is the face of the Valar Guild. You are our ambassadors.
VardaValar1: Rather they want to come to us than run. : )
BhonTuath: hihi yeah , in awe , Varda, not in fer ;-)
BhonTuath: fear
Eonwe Valar: Get out there and Make us Proud :}
VardaValar1: :-)
VardaValar1: Each of you is an ambassador and a scout for the like-minded.
Eonwe Valar: I would like to quote from Faramir when he speaks of Minas Tirith :}
ArPharazonV: the time comes when the Valar shake the councils of the wise, the great, and the gaming companies...
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: I would like to, but I'd need my book to do so, and I don't know if you want to sit here while I flip through pages :}
VardaValar1: Have to pull them off the games and webwork long enough to be more present.
VardaValar1: Sure, we'll do things while you flip pages. : )
VardaValar1: Faramir has a lot of fun words to wade through. : )
VardaValar1: Show your quality. : )
VardaValar1: I think we are already moving into Tolkien so let's make it official. : )

VardaValar1: Tolkien Chat:
VardaValar1: On this week's additions to the web pages were a lot of topics.
Menelvagor Valar: I'm off to bed, have a great night everyone!
VardaValar1: Good night!
ArPharazonV: night Menel!
BhonTuath: Good night Menel
STEvilaim: 'night
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VardaValar1: Errand of Fate has a journey, taking the valuable heirloom to Elrond.
VardaValar1: Journeys are very big in Tolkien, of all kinds.
ArPharazonV: one particular journey from Hobbiton to Mount Doom comes to mind...
VardaValar1: The Last to Dance once again shows how Aragorn spreads hope during his journey.
VardaValar1: Aye, Phar. : )
VardaValar1: That was a long trek for those tiny folk!
Eonwe Valar: I think I found my quote :}
VardaValar1: Go Eonwe!
BhonTuath has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiyata. : )
BhonTuath: thx :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe found the quote from Faramir. : )
Eonwe Valar: "I would have her loved for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the degnity of a man, old and wise." :}
Eonwe Valar: *dignity
VardaValar1: Perfect!
VardaValar1: That exactly fits what we hoped for the attitude towards the Valar Guild. : )
STEvilaim: must take my leave, still feeling the affects of my birthday on the 9th ;-) Fare well
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: namarie!
ArPharazonV: namarie! and happy birthday
Eonwe Valar: take care :}
Eonwe Valar: Happy Birthday :}
STEvilaim: cya
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Eonwe Valar: On journey, there's the Journey to Henneth Annun :}
VardaValar1: Aye
VardaValar1: Unexpected friends on the way to Mordor, and beauty.
VardaValar1: and fissh.
ArPharazonV: so juicy sweeeet!
Eonwe Valar: Faramir showed a cunning control of the situation at henneth Annun. Had Sam all relaxed and... "talky" :}
BhonTuath: hihihi ye know what? I thought last week some point it would make a nice topic for in here *chuckles*
VardaValar1: Faramir is dangerous to talk with. : )
Eonwe Valar: Aye, he definitely shows he's a capable leader :}
VardaValar1: He didn't need the roughness the movie showed. In the books, he talked them into giving up all their information. : )
Eonwe Valar: Didn't have to force one word out of Sam and he got all the info he wanted :}
Eonwe Valar: Maybe he should've wined and dined Gollum too :}
VardaValar1: but Sam was right. That was a trustworthy person.
VardaValar1: Frodo was so busy denying Gollum was with them. I think that may have been an error in dealing with Faramir.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, Faramir was. Such did Frodo and Sam find out, at the end of the Journey to Henneth Annun :}
BhonTuath: I think his heart saw further than his head - Sam's I mean.
VardaValar1: Heart, intuition, I agree.
Eonwe Valar: Interesting thought.
VardaValar1: A lot of talk is in body language, inflections, all things Sam probably picked up on.
VardaValar1: Also how Faramir's men reacted to Faramir.
ArPharazonV: things that could hardly be portrayed in a movie....
VardaValar1: They want a lot of visual action, but those visual cues could show up better in a movie.
Eonwe Valar: The loyalty of Faramir's men could be portrayed in a movie.
VardaValar1: That it got across on a printed page that well is remarkable.
VardaValar1: His men did seem loyal in the movie.
Eonwe Valar: Beregond's chat with Pippin about Faramir would've been a good scene to get that across as well.
VardaValar1: Aye!
BhonTuath: I think that came a bit too short in the movie, but words do often serve better than pictures ..
ArPharazonV: except for the fact that there was no Beregond in the movie... they were quite careful with the introduction of new characters
VardaValar1: There were so many characters that it would be easy to lose viewers who did not read the books.
VardaValar1: That's one reason Glorfindel was left out in the animated and live movies.
ArPharazonV: visual details, loads of new characters, outstretched conversation.... all examples of where the movies could have lost a lot of viewers indeed
VardaValar1: True
ArPharazonV: we often complain about the movies and their details and differences.. but a lot of the changes were almost necessary to appeal to a larger audience
Eonwe Valar: To paraphrase Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura:When Nature Calls: "Oh sure, let's do all the things the general public wants to do."
Eonwe Valar: And alot of changes were not.
ArPharazonV: no audience is no money... no expected audience is no movie at all
ArPharazonV: and when not compared with the books, it was still a fairly good movie :-)
BhonTuath: weel , I think Jackson did make a marvelous job
ArPharazonV: indeed
VardaValar1: Aye.
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BhonTuath: I think of rthe books that were turned into film , these three are of the most accurate I can think of
Eonwe Valar: Sure, the general public can sit through 3 hours watching a ship sink but can't sit through 4 watching something be given a little more truly to the books?
VardaValar1: I'm glad he pulled back on the Xenarwen thing. : )
ArPharazonV: haha
BhonTuath: Aiya Orodreth
VardaValar1: Hi there, Orodreth : )
ArPharazonV: Aiya Oro
Eonwe Valar: Heya Orodreth
ArPharazonV: and that's what the extended edition is for, Eonwe ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movies, but there are some parts that just get my dander up
ArPharazonV: just a tid bit closer and more complete :-)
ArPharazonV: *tad
VardaValar1: Same here, Eonwe. : )
Eonwe Valar: no, tid bit is right, hehe.
BhonTuath: hehe
ArPharazonV: well, but I meant tad, anyway :-)
VardaValar1: One complaint about the books was that they were too short. : )
BhonTuath: some say the introduction is too long , grin
ArPharazonV: I've heard more complaints that they were too long, aye :-)
ArPharazonV: or do you mean the movie's introduction, Finduilas?
VardaValar1: I would have liked a lot more on some things in the books, especially characterization.
BhonTuath: no the books
Eonwe Valar: I would've preferred seeing Glorfindel for 10 minutes and never seeing him onscreen again to what they did.
VardaValar1: England was having a paper shortage at the time. Amazing it made it out at it's length.
VardaValar1: I agree, Eonwe.
ArPharazonV: well, sure, we do, because we love the books
VardaValar1: They sure made Frodo look weak in the movie.
ArPharazonV: for people who start with the movies, a 10-minute Glorfindel and then a complete disappearance would be quite redundant
VardaValar1: Frodo should not have had so many of his moments cut.
VardaValar1: Arwen took over his defiance of the Nazguls.
Eonwe Valar: Like the old Hobbit who smiles at the fireworks in the first movie then frowns at the returning Hobbits in the last?
ArPharazonV: good point ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Getting an extra to play Glorfindel for a few hours of shooting wouldn't have killed anything.
VardaValar1: I'm going to run into a time problem soon. We still have a test to give.
BhonTuath: hhmm was that supposed to be the sackvilee - bagginses? Shame they didn't get in hehe
Eonwe Valar: Ready when you are.
ArPharazonV: oh, they did, actually
BhonTuath: where?
ArPharazonV: in the extended edition, they had a more "present" part
ArPharazonV: at Bilbo's party
Eonwe Valar: That was a Sackville-Baggins?
VardaValar1: True.
Eonwe Valar: Thought that was a Proudfoot?
Eonwe Valar: He reminds me of the "Proudfeet" part.
VardaValar1: there was the Proudfoot, aye. But also S-B's
ArPharazonV: aye, they were looking for Bilbo and he hid from them
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, don't remember them. Will have to pay more attention next time I watch it.
VardaValar1: It's not long.
ArPharazonV: but it's there :-)
VardaValar1: There are lots of tiny bits that one can miss in an eyeblink, just for us book-lovers. : )
ArPharazonV: yup
BhonTuath: hmmm have to watche the dvds again .. what a hardship hehe
VardaValar1: hehe - right
VardaValar1: Only problem is being time-consuming
VardaValar1: Guess while doing homework? :-)
ArPharazonV: hehe... 11 hours of movie... not something you casually do on a random day
VardaValar1: You...don't?
BhonTuath: *g* got me there lol]
VardaValar1: Oh.
Eonwe Valar: Have to get piles of snacks... Sandwiches, chips, soda, maybe some pasta for halfway through the second.... Oh, I don't have to watch them all back-to-back? :}
ArPharazonV: not in a single run, Varda :-)
VardaValar1: Nope, not required. : )
ArPharazonV: watching them in one go would sure be interesting
Eonwe Valar: I've done it :}
Eonwe Valar: Extended editions :}
ArPharazonV: start at 4 pm and go on to 3 am... fun way to spend an evening ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Sounds roughly correct :}
VardaValar1: Or weekend and start early.
VardaValar1: I'm more of a morning elf, er Valie.
ArPharazonV: not me, I'm usually more afternoon/evening
ArPharazonV: when I don't have college, the day usually starts at 2 pm for me..
ArPharazonV: and when I do have college the day doesn't really start for me until I'm back home ;-)
VardaValar1: Well, Orodreth. Guess you'd better make that report now. : )
ArPharazonV: so 4pm to 3am is really something I should try... get a few friends over, get the snacks out, and not blink for 11 hours ;-)
VardaValar1: Blink? One might blink during LotR?
ArPharazonV: nooo, you'd only miss the details!
ArPharazonV: one blink, and you might miss the S-B's at the party!
VardaValar1: oops.
Eonwe Valar: That's ok, your friends wouldn't mind you constantly rewinding after each blink.
ArPharazonV: haha
VardaValar1: :-)
BhonTuath: hihi

Orodreth V: /me pokes his head in
VardaValar1: Hi there!
Orodreth V: My (very) belated gaming report: Bnet bot is gone until further notice, as it was becoming unstable for some unknown reason and crashes during firefights in Eve was not cool.
VardaValar1: ack
VardaValar1: Thanks for letting us know.
Orodreth V: WoS I got my server to work, it will be up and passworded as soon as I get told what it should be. :p
ArPharazonV: what it should be?
ArPharazonV: oh, the password
ArPharazonV: been so long since I saw or used that password.... no idea what it is... did we even get a new one this year?
VardaValar1: That would be me you ask, and not in public. : )
Orodreth V: I think I used it once in a SC game when I first joined...
Orodreth V: So yea. Meant to email you but forgot.
ArPharazonV: not asking what it is, just asking if we had it changed this year :-)
Eonwe Valar: Oh, another note of WoW interest: the talent calculators on the WoW site have been redesigned to be better and respond faster in IE.
VardaValar1: yay!
Orodreth V: Anyways, the server will be up as much as my computer is, under the name Valar Private Server. I won't set the world command either, so you can play any world you want...
Orodreth V: ...until I get on, kick you off, and start up Aeri.
Orodreth V: ;-)
ArPharazonV: it's online now?
Orodreth V: Will be in a minute.
Orodreth V: Is now. Should show up in the list in a minute or two.
Orodreth V: Adding it to startup in a second.
ArPharazonV: I'm in!
VardaValar1: yay1
VardaValar1: Ok, passwording handled. : )
Orodreth V: Well...
Orodreth V: I can't seem to see my own server. :p
Eonwe Valar: It's over there *points to location of server in Orodreth's house* :}
Orodreth V: Keep your day job. :p
Eonwe Valar: Will do :}
ArPharazonV: c'mon, join, it's lonely in here ;-)
Orodreth V: Soon as I can, I will.
VardaValar1: pardon, in test
VardaValar1: We have one of your players there. ; )
VardaValar1: Bhon Tuath
ArPharazonV: it appears my wasp is finally getting healthier again... had him on a wrong diet for a while, so was sickly... and now has practically no stamina....
Eonwe Valar: Wasp?
VardaValar1: What do you feed him?
Eonwe Valar: Nm, don't think I want to know.
VardaValar1: Well of Souls pet
Eonwe Valar: oh ok
ArPharazonV: had been so long... I thought I had to make his diet the same color as the circle portraying his stomach.. then it turned out it has to be the same color as his face ;-)
ArPharazonV: but he's allright now, I have him on his pure green diet.... quite easy to feed :-)
ArPharazonV: so now it's just a matter of time again before he finally starts to gain some hp!
BhonTuath: hey cool Orod
VardaValar1: Good to know
VardaValar1: I will be playing sometimes, especially when I can't get past the competition for the WoW computers. ;-)
ArPharazonV: eck! almost had that gnome king.... but one spell was enough to finish me off...
Orodreth V: If I could make it in, I'd help you, but I can't... :p
ArPharazonV: eh, I'll try again when I'm a level higher :-)
Orodreth V: Ar, pop over to the Aeri server. Until I can play on my own server, that's where I'll be. :p
ArPharazonV: oh, allright
ArPharazonV: what was it again? /im 4892?
Orodreth V: yea
VardaValar1: Thanks
ArPharazonV: any idea how to identify a song that plays at a specific moment at the midi-list?
VardaValar1: In some programs it might be at the top of the window?
ArPharazonV: I mean inside the game :-)
VardaValar1: I have no idea. : )
Orodreth V: You have to dig through the scriping.
Orodreth V: and with Aeri, that's a real chore. :p
Orodreth V: Ar, when you connected to my sever, did you get spammed with the message "You seem to have lost your network connection"?
ArPharazonV: nope, had that last week, but not this time
Orodreth V: k
Orodreth V: rebooting router, back in a flash
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ArPharazonV: well, this is interesting... just found a book about the history of Innleach...
ArPharazonV: with the main character a paladin called Turin and his sword Gurthang :-D
Orodreth V: So Loric borrowed a little.. :p
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Is his best friend's name Beleg? :}
ArPharazonV: wooh, just killed the gnome king
Orodreth V: (level 10 :P)
ArPharazonV: he killed my wasp, but I'm alive... and my wasp comes easily back to life
ArPharazonV: lvl 12 myself!
BhonTuath: 17 ..
BhonTuath: alas]
ArPharazonV: well, gotta go, time for bed
ArPharazonV: good luck with the test
VardaValar1: Namarie
ArPharazonV: saving and sending
VardaValar1: Thank you!
ArPharazonV: saved
Orodreth V: Bhon, type /im 4892
VardaValar1: Forgive her if she's a bit distracted, as she's in a test too.
Orodreth V: Ahh.
ArPharazonV: sent!
ArPharazonV: Namarie all!
VardaValar1: Thanks
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Orodreth V: I have meeting logs on here starting in april of last year. :|
VardaValar1: hehe
VardaValar1: But you never send one in?
VardaValar1: You do get credit for it. : )
VardaValar1: Your name in type. : )
Orodreth V: They're all in one big file, with central timestamps..
VardaValar1: You ever read them?
Orodreth V: No. :p
Orodreth V: Actually, I did just now to find the channel number.
Orodreth V: For woS.
Orodreth V: But other than that, no. :p
VardaValar1: Might want to clear some comp space then : )
VardaValar1: It's supposedly on the guild site
VardaValar1: Finduilas-(V), welcome to the Valar Guild as a Full Member!
VardaValar1: You just earned your promotion. :-)
Orodreth V: It takes up a few mb is all..Besides I'm sure it'll come in handy someday...
BhonTuath: Ok i folks , I ; ll move my tired behind out of here ;-)
BhonTuath: some peeps have to work hehe
Orodreth V: /me basks in summer vacation
BhonTuath: some folk have all the luck good night for now see ye folk next Week :-) , am on Eve btw Orod ;-)
BhonTuath: iyell see me , I fly the Nargothrond
VardaValar1: She's a fellow Eve Onliner. : )
VardaValar1: Namarie!
BhonTuath: Namarie !
VardaValar1: And she got 5/5 while nearly asleep. : )
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Orodreth V: !
Orodreth V: Argh, need to ask her all the details next time.
VardaValar1: hehe
Orodreth V: I dbout she has an inside line on Wolf production, but there's alwaya chance, right?
VardaValar1: Never know. : )
Orodreth V: I get them cheap, but the price just went from 12m to 15m. :| Market is 20m, but I'd rather pay 12 either way..
Orodreth V: Anyways, I'm about a third of the way to the level req for making a guild on Orodreth, and over two thirds of the way their on my non-guild alt.
VardaValar1: As in you have enough alts to nearly make a guild? : )
Orodreth V: :p
Orodreth V: No, you need level 60 to create a guild. Dorfl is like 43 and Orodreth is 24.
Orodreth V: Don't need a number of people like on wc3 or wow.
VardaValar1: One guy is enough for a guild?
Orodreth V: Yup.
Orodreth V: :p
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VardaValar1: Did you see Arwen come in?
VardaValar1: I only saw her leave.
Eonwe Valar: I only saw herleave as well.
Orodreth V: Arwen has uberchat powers. She comes into rooms and you don't even know it....
Orodreth V: *twilight zone music*
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Now we know!
Orodreth V: So, do you have an email for our newest member? Or better yet, here Eve name?
Orodreth V: her*
VardaValar1: yes, we have her email. It's on the Tolkien-only page
VardaValar1: She was Finduilas-(TV) and was promoted today to Finduilas-(V)
VardaValar1: In case you need it now before the update. : )
Orodreth V: heh
Orodreth V: Varda, I got bows from 0 to 25 if you want to get on and take them. :p I have no use for them.
VardaValar1: Cool
VardaValar1: Too bad no mailbox
Orodreth V: :-(
VardaValar1: Carrying a bow I can't use now
Orodreth V: Heh.
VardaValar1: I probably should
VardaValar1: Big Tolkien discussion on a side window : )
VardaValar1: I'll get on
VardaValar1: This isn't the computer I put WoS on, be a bit.
VardaValar1: Currently doing the download and install, among other things.
Orodreth V: Er.
Orodreth V: You won't be able to play your character unless you move the original WoS folder over.
VardaValar1: oh well
VardaValar1: That's bad news
Orodreth V: A downside to storing characters clinetside. :
Orodreth V: :\
VardaValar1: I need to play it on this comp, so I'll just start a new one here to actually play.
VardaValar1: The other wasn't far along, good learning character.
Orodreth V: heh
Orodreth V: Well, filling out a job app now, so not playing really. :p
VardaValar1: Multiplayer Network choice?
VardaValar1: Any Public MIX Game Server?
VardaValar1: You had a server you wanted us on?
VardaValar1: Or just jump on in?
VardaValar1: ok, jumping in while you fill in job app. Good luck on it!
Orodreth V: Aerianell
VardaValar1: aye
Orodreth V: Is the name of the server I'm on.
VardaValar1: World
VardaValar1: Thought you were making something you wanted us on?
Orodreth V: Was, but I can't play on it. :p
VardaValar1: Aerianell is where we went last time.
VardaValar1: You can't play on yours? heh
Orodreth V: Working on a solution with some server gurus, but they had to go, so I need to wait untl tomorrow.
VardaValar1: Will we have to rebuild our characters to use it? I assume?
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VardaValar1: Using name Elbereth, elf instead of elf2
Orodreth V: No.
Orodreth V: Your characters are interchangeable over servers.
Orodreth V: That's the pro side of clientside characters.
VardaValar1: Helps keep me straight. ;-)
VardaValar1: Having an idea of what to do makes all the difference in the World. :-)
VardaValar1: Leveling and not dying
Orodreth V: Heh. Once you get higher I'll run Dorfl through the Coilisium a few time and get you the armor and stuff.
VardaValar1: I didn't want to be a warrior
VardaValar1: Wanted to be an archer
VardaValar1: Must have hit something wrong somewhere
VardaValar1: I'm a good warrior, but not what I intended.
VardaValar1: Do I need to delete and restart?
VardaValar1: He said yes, I did. All is well now :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}