June 11, 2006 Meeting
5pm EST (GMT - 5);
(GMT = 22:00)
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AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
Transcript work by: Ar-Pharazon-(V)
Members: ArPharazonV, ArwenV1 (invisible except
LouieKisKowsKi, Eonwe Valar, Finduilas-(V)(was Finduilas-TV)/BhonTuath,
Menelvagor Valar, Scatha-(V)/STEvilaim, Orodreth V,
Thranduil-(V)/Gamatzgamatz, VardaValar1 (presiding)
Orome-(Valar) in Brasil for
Barahir-(V) did very well
on his exams, wrote it up in tabloid form.
Finduilas-(TV) became Finduilas-(V) during the
Tolkien part of the meeting. BhonTuath is her AIM name.
Webworking computer now with
new hardwire and location, operational again.
Errand of Fate
The Last to Dance
Players at the meeting: Finduilas-(V),
Well of Souls (also in the After-meeting)
Private guild chat channel type /im 4892
Valar Private Server: available
whenever Orodreth-(V)'s computer is online.
Some player names: Calion, Elbereth,
Fainan, Finduilas, Orodreth, Tindomeral.
Lord of the Rings Online
LotRO Thread, buddy listing
Beta (Thranduil signed up too)
Blizzard Background Downloader
causing lag and/or crashes. Under Preferences, disable background patch
Talent calculators on
the WoW site now improved for Internet Explorer.
New Horde server for
guild: Uldaman. Type /join Valar and add members to buddy list.
Thranduil-(V) quitting WoW because it
consumed too much of his life. Plans to come on LotRO with us.
Crysis, sequel to Farcry
Battlenet: our bot (done by Orodreth-V) in the Valar
channel is down until further notices as it is having peculiar problems.
Faramir's ways of interrogation
You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
Gamatzgamatz has entered the room.
Gamatzgamatz: hey guys :-D
VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
Gamatzgamatz: brb one sec got a customer, im at work
ArPharazonV: on my way, just levelling some alts tonight
Gamatzgamatz: lol btw i signefd up for the beta :-)
VardaValar1: No problem
VardaValar1: That's a first. Error message says invited too many at
DemonicHorde69 has entered the room.
STEvilaim has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Heya : )
mecoons has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya : )
mecoons: i can't actually stay tonight i have a freind visiting
VardaValar1: No problem. Glad you could drop by. : )
mecoons: but i thank you kindly for the invite
VardaValar1: Have a good visit!
VardaValar1: Feel free to recruit... ;-)
mecoons: littlle low on members
VardaValar1: I had an invite problem
VardaValar1: Going to try it again
VardaValar1: Evil error message
mecoons: lol allright well you guys have fun
VardaValar1: ok :-)
VardaValar1: You too!
mecoons has left the room.
VardaValar1: There we go. No error message, so maybe it worked. : )
BhonTuath has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Are all you folks in games and other projects right now?
VardaValar1: Aiya Finduilas : )
STEvilaim: a bit
BhonTuath: Aiya Varda - shiop where it should be aye
VardaValar1: What ship did you just dock?
BhonTuath: the Nargothrond I
VardaValar1: In Well of Souls?
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
BhonTuath: na h in Eve
VardaValar1: Aiya Eonwe : )
BhonTuath: aya Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: Heya
VardaValar1: Eve Online, ahh.
BhonTuath: thats it]
STEvilaim: im already here eonwe :P
VardaValar1: You make your own ship?
ArPharazonV: I was in WoW, levelling 2 of my young alts from 1 to 6...
ArPharazonV: but in nothing right now
VardaValar1: Scatha is such a big dragon we have to invite both head
and tail ends to be sure.
STEvilaim: i'm just big boned!
VardaValar1: Too right
VardaValar1: The fangs alone tend to hang on this round door.
Gamatzgamatz: back :-D
VardaValar1: Welcome back : )
Eonwe Valar: wb
VardaValar1: So we have Finduilas docking a boat in Eve Online, and
Pharazon from World of WarCraft (which I just left)
BhonTuath: aiya there @ varda you get your own ship when ye enter
VardaValar1: Where are the rest of you?
BhonTuath: its docked now
BhonTuath: and close
VardaValar1: Nice! Makes me want to try it. : )
Eonwe Valar: I am here and on our Forum.
VardaValar1: A good spot. : )
Eonwe Valar: And at my desk.
VardaValar1: I'm also on the webwork page. Another story, quite short
ArPharazonV: so today I got my first real experiences playing a hunter
and a warrior.... they're quite fun :-)
VardaValar1: Hunter for the most fun class in WoW ; )
VardaValar1: You are all entitled to your own opinions. : )
VardaValar1: Today isn't another holiday by any chance?
Eonwe Valar: None that I know of. Father's Day isn't until next Sunday.
ArPharazonV: every day's a holiday when you're in the Valarguild!
VardaValar1: Gamatz/Thranduil-(V) is at work and with us at once.
Shades of Finwe. : )
VardaValar1: Quite right, Phar : )
Gamatzgamatz: 8-) lol yea i finally got a chance to get into a valar
Gamatzgamatz: lol slow day at work
Eonwe Valar: congrats :}
VardaValar1: Slow day here too. Must all be out gaming. : )
VardaValar1: Fangorn, Bilbo, Sauron, and Eowyn say hi
Gamatzgamatz: haha yea, just cant wait till lotro comes out
VardaValar1: Elwing was on WoW and a bunch of others
Eonwe Valar: Heya to them.
VardaValar1: Should be a natural place for us. : ) LotRO
VardaValar1: Fundin was there too
VardaValar1: WoW I mean
VardaValar1: So I guess this is the crop. Maybe we can make it through
quickly then. ; )
sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership News:
is in Brasil for about 9 days for work, but said hi
on the Forum if you'd like to reply to him there.
wrote up a tabloid-style paper to amuse the
guild with his latest accomplishments, up on the News as a link.
joined us last meeting, Bhon Tuath here. : )
VardaValar1: Would you like to say your "few words" to introduce
DemonicHorde69 has left the room.
BhonTuath: weel I am newly arrived in the Valar Gruild as you know and
my home land is Scotland
BhonTuath: I live on the Isle of Skye
BhonTuath: I have read Tolkien for many years and started online gaming
BhonTuath: What sort of things would you like to know?
Gamatzgamatz: welcommen :-D !!
VardaValar1: What made you interested in joining the Valar Guild?
VardaValar1: although you sort of answered that already. ; )
BhonTuath: Hmm I saw the link in a links page some where and the name
fascinated me lol
BhonTuath: when I saw the forum and so on I read the aims and that was
VardaValar1: Yay : )
BhonTuath: I mean what the guild was about
VardaValar1: Glad to have a kindred spirit
BhonTuath: Glad to have found u too
VardaValar1: What would you most like to do with the guild?
BhonTuath: I 'd like to discuss Tolkien and then play with you together
VardaValar1: Sounds great : )
BhonTuath: maybe we meet beforehand in space lol
VardaValar1: Thank you for coming today. We hope you return again for
meetings. : )
VardaValar1: Any other membership news?
VardaValar1: The happiest news in my corner is that the main webworking
computer is operational again.
VardaValar1: New items for the Tolkien
site this week:
of Fate" by Finduilas : )
VardaValar1: Would you like to tell us a little about what got you
started writing this story?
BhonTuath: Sure - as you know the sword of Isildur itself plays an
important part in LotR
BhonTuath: but nothing is known about Ohtar who brought the shards of
BhonTuath: I wondered what he would think and do
BhonTuath: while he took the shards
VardaValar1: Thank you. Good thinking.
VardaValar1: We have another story up this week:
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
Breath" by Cassia-TV and Siobhan-TV
VardaValar1: Aiya Menelvagor :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
Gamatzgamatz: hey menelvagor
Menelvagor Valar: small turnout tonight..
VardaValar1: 11 chapters
VardaValar1: Aye, surprised me too.
STEvilaim: lucky you got me.. someone phoned and thats the only reason
i was awake ;-)
VardaValar1: We are lucky. : )
LouieKisKowsKi has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Elros : )
BhonTuath: what are ye complaining they are coming hehe
had two additions this week:
LouieKisKowsKi: aiya, sorry I cannot stay long
BhonTuath: aiya Elros , I am Fanduilas and aiya Menel
VardaValar1: No problem, glad you could drop by : )
VardaValar1: Under Poetry, both were written by new member Merewen-TV
Last to Dance"
VardaValar1: about Eowyn
End" about Frodo.
VardaValar1: Pardon, several windows
VardaValar1: These are Merewen's membership entries for Tolkien-only
VardaValar1: All the new folk would really like some feedback for their
new entries, even a thank you, as they tend to be a little nervous
about their reception.
VardaValar1: Feel free to email them or talk here : )
BhonTuath: hehe I was very nervous
BhonTuath: as it is my first story as such in Middle Earth or in
general for a long time
LouieKisKowsKi: hey i heart you guys, i have to go, be well and check
my site if you like, greetngs to all, long weekend i have to got o work
and act like a civillian
VardaValar1: Take care
LouieKisKowsKi has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Take care
VardaValar1: Elros' website has grown a lot, he
says, and here's his
link to his personal page:
VardaValar1: Ok, onwards
VardaValar1: New Art
for this week:
VardaValar1: Turgon has been
his busy self : )
VardaValar1: He put up "Manwe's
VardaValar1: with two more in the collection that haven't yet been
loaded into his Cave.
VardaValar1: They'll be on the News when they go up
VardaValar1: We lost Menelvagor?
VardaValar1: no, there he is : )
VardaValar1: Menel, do you have any Web news?
Menelvagor Valar: not after last weeks last'minute updates :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe stepped out for a minute, should be back shortly.
He's been working on a php program to help make thumbnails for the art
VardaValar1: Ahh, thanks
Valar: I do have some membership news though :-)
VardaValar1: I am behind with putting up the Lothar WoW member updates
VardaValar1: Go ahead, Menel.
Menelvagor Valar: well, at the start of the week, I seem to have
swallowed a whole bunch of butterflies.
Menelvagor Valar: and that's put me in a really good mood.
VardaValar1: Not Black Emperors, I trust?
Menelvagor Valar: and apparently, I wasn't the only one hit with a
butterfly attack :-)
Menelvagor Valar: nope, no Black Emperors.
Menelvagor Valar: just the ones that frollick about in your tummy :-)
Menelvagor Valar: and, I am seriously considering (and actually
looking) to move to Rotterdam :-)
VardaValar1: Is that pretty far?
Menelvagor Valar: just about 200 miles southwest.
Menelvagor Valar: a lot nearer to Fladrif and Pharzie from where I am
VardaValar1: How long from now do you think it might be before that
VardaValar1: Cool : )
ArPharazonV: a lot nearer? you'll pass us straight by if you go that
ArPharazonV: besides, Flad is still in Sweden ;-)
BhonTuath: we might pass you in autumn then - Menel, when we take the
Menelvagor Valar: with a little luck, and all goes well, a month or two.
Menelvagor Valar: why don't you drop by then?
ArPharazonV: tell us when, we might make it a guild-gathering :-)
VardaValar1: Very cool : )
BhonTuath: Lets see when the time is nearer, but no reason why not "}
VardaValar1: Why should Texas have all the fun? : )
Menelvagor Valar: Will do :-)
Menelvagor Valar: but it's still a whole lot of planning, and not much
Menelvagor Valar: depends on a good deal.
VardaValar1: Job or school taking you there?
VardaValar1: Probably Pharazon's sparkling personality!
ArPharazonV: or luuuv?
Menelvagor Valar: luuuv :P
Menelvagor Valar: and a couple other reasons.
VardaValar1: Don't starve. : )
Menelvagor Valar: but I can probably transfer schools :-)
Menelvagor Valar: that's one of the things that have to go just right.
VardaValar1: Do some heavy duty planning and it can happen if you're
lucky. : )
Menelvagor Valar: not much time for planning in the coming weeks.
Menelvagor Valar: 3 test weeks coming up.
VardaValar1: May your mind be sharp!
VardaValar1: Any further Web News, now that Eonwe is back?
VardaValar1: He says no, so on to the next.
VardaValar1: Gaming News:
VardaValar1: Has anyone played anything besides World of WarCraft?
VardaValar1: Finduilas reports she was on Eve Online
ArPharazonV: a bit of Well of Souls, but nobody of you
online, unless I
was on the wrong server
sometimes, limited to what my laptop can play
really.. and dial-up.
VardaValar1: Aerienell was the server.
VardaValar1: Scatha, maybe you could handle Well of Souls on that?
ArPharazonV: and I also continued playing through Escape from Monkey
Island, but as that's a single-player adventure, it won't be of
ArPharazonV: aye, I was on that server, but nobody online ;-)
VardaValar1: I was on WoW, sorry. : )
Gamatzgamatz: ive been playing the frozen throne a bit, since im sadly
ArPharazonV: thought so ;-)
BhonTuath: I was on for the first three days , quite a few times
VardaValar1: Money problem? usual thing
Gamatzgamatz: lol nope, it was consuming my life
STEvilaim: i'll have to look into well of souls.. seems there was a
reason i passed it up though..
Gamatzgamatz: once i quit like a whole new world opened up lol :-P
VardaValar1: ahh, then you need to pick some times, like every other
day, the way Elwing handles it. : )
Gamatzgamatz: now im just prepping myself for Lotro
BhonTuath: but Iprobably the wrong time for ye, then I got somewhat
disttracted .. hhehe
Gamatzgamatz: yea i should
VardaValar1: That could be November unless you luck out on the beta.
Gamatzgamatz: i WISH we all can get into beta
Gamatzgamatz: everybody in this guild
VardaValar1: That would be great : )
ArPharazonV: our WoW-guild has several prominent players leaving too...
it's a shame
VardaValar1: We are shooting for it by putting the guild name in the
VardaValar1: They could pick us by guild.
Gamatzgamatz: nicee, cuz when i filled it out, i followed the
instructions you emailed us
VardaValar1: yay! We do have a shot. : )
Gamatzgamatz: by the way speaking of the application, i never did that
test where you copy and paste what you ahve in your system, does that
downgrade the shot I have getting into the beta?
VardaValar1: I don't know if it will help, but everybody also say hi on
the LotRO forum's Valar Guild thread. : )
Gamatzgamatz: lol will do
VardaValar1: I hope not, because I never figured that one out. : )
VardaValar1: Did anyone else figure out how to do that?
Eonwe Valar: If it's not required for the application, I wouldn't worry
about it. At least I didn't.
VardaValar1: It's not required.
Eonwe Valar: the diaxlog thing?
BhonTuath: Where have you got the Vala Guild thread on Shadows of
VardaValar1: the last part with the text
Eonwe Valar: Dxdiag rather?
VardaValar1: type into the Search in the Kinships, Valar Guild
VardaValar1: It should show up
VardaValar1: If you see our names in there, that helps you add them to
your forum buddy list. : )
VardaValar1: And you can use their names to find their posts.
BhonTuath: ah got it
VardaValar1: Yay : )
VardaValar1: Might toss an URL in here : )
VardaValar1: We also have a LotRO web
page put up by Elatan with handy
links and info on it.
VardaValar1: Thank you. : )
BhonTuath: always glad to be of service :-)
VardaValar1: There we go. Now you can all jump in and say hi. : )
Gamatzgamatz: just bumped :-D
VardaValar1: hehe - thanks! : )
VardaValar1: Added you to my buddy list : )
BhonTuath: oki hehe
BhonTuath: just wondering how i get the actual pic in the signature and
not only the link ..
VardaValar1: Menel, you might be able to answer that?
TH0R0NGIL has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Finrod-V aka Thorongil : )
Menelvagor Valar: errr..
Menelvagor Valar: what was the question?
VardaValar1: Or someone else : )
Menelvagor Valar: pciture in sig on the MB?
Menelvagor Valar: picture*
VardaValar1: No, on LotRO Forum
VardaValar1: Might be the same as for our Forum aka MB
Menelvagor Valar: sorry, but I wouldn't know, never worked with pics in
VardaValar1: Fanduil, I see your pic on LotRO
Menelvagor Valar: but, it might be much like standard webwork.
Eonwe Valar: try using the following:
Eonwe Valar: <img src="">
Menelvagor Valar: ah, that's it.
VardaValar1: Tuor, Elatan and Merry got their Avatars up too. Maybe
Eonwe Valar: put your image address in the quotes.
Eonwe Valar: She's referring to an image in her signature.
VardaValar1: Finduilos, I see your avatar up, just had a dreadful typo.
VardaValar1: ah, ok
Eonwe Valar: separate from the avatar.
BhonTuath: yeah but I mean in the signature
Eonwe Valar: Look above for my suggestion.
VardaValar1: Your banner pic.
Eonwe Valar: if they didn't disable images in signatures, then <img
src=""> should work.
Eonwe Valar: make sure it's small enough to not take up too much
loading time as well. They likely limited images to a certain pixel
VardaValar1: Good luck with that.
VardaValar1: Any other non-WoW gaming mentions? DAoC, anything in
Gamatzgamatz: lol there is a guild on battlenet called vengeance of
valar, just wanted to point that out
VardaValar1: Thanks : )
VardaValar1: Ok, on to WoW reports.
go ahead. : )
ArPharazonV: haven't seen any valar-peoples online this week, which is
a darn shame, but with the few members we have there, it's not too
STEvilaim: /me blames work
ArPharazonV: that's quite possible :-)
Eonwe Valar: That's what happens when you recruit mature, responsible
gamers. They have priorities higher than a game sometimes :}
ArPharazonV: our guild/raidgroup still tries to take down Huhuran,
getting pretty close, improving our tactics, but she's quite a
roadblock, and even Blizzard says it's a badly designed fight :-)
ArPharazonV: I got revered with the Timbermaw this week, and got my
final tribal leatherworking pattern
ArPharazonV: I was considering trying to get exalted with Argent Dawn,
but since it's pretty pointless to try to get 15000 reputation before
the patch, I decided to abandon grinding for a while and focus on some
ArPharazonV: got both my mage and hunter from lvl 1 to 6 this week and
my warrior to 5
ArPharazonV: concerning our raidloot it was really my week... won 5
items, including a catring, a bearhelm and shoulders, and a few pairs
ArPharazonV: my feral druid is quite happy ;-)
ArPharazonV: and that concludes my report for this week
VardaValar1: Thank you, Pharazon : )
VardaValar1: Eonwe, would you like to give your Lothar WoW report
Eonwe Valar: Sure.
Eonwe Valar: This week's questing took Varda, Fangorn, Eonwë,
Fundin, Arwen, and Gimli into Zul Farrak. Our Goals: Gahz'rilla,
Nekrum's Medallion, and the Divino-matic Rod.
Eonwe Valar: First, it was Varda, Fangorn, Eonwë, and Fundin. We
fought our way to Gahz'rilla then defeated the beast.
Eonwe Valar: We were then joined by Arwen. Shortly after that, Fundin
had to go, and so Gimli was brought in.
Eonwe Valar: Since Gimli needed Gahz'rilla, and respawns were already
popping up, we decided to reset the instance and take a break for
selling and repairs.
Eonwe Valar: Gimli was also experiencing some internet problems during
this time, so he had to log out. Luckily, he was back about the time we
were ready to go back in :}
Eonwe Valar: That done, we went back in and dealt once again with
Eonwe Valar: Bringing him down a second time, we turned our attention
to Captain Bly.
Eonwe Valar: Freeing him and his group from their cages, we fought off
waves of trolls together, culminating in a faceoff between Nekrum and
the Priest that kept him alive.
Eonwe Valar: After we'd done this, Captain Bly turned on us, forcing us
to take him down.
Eonwe Valar: We did however reclaim the Divino-matic Rod, thus
completing the last quest my Paladin had for Zul-Farrak,... until he
stumbles on another that he somehow missed :}
Eonwe Valar: That does it for my WoW Report, but I have something I'd
like to remind all the WoW players of.
Eonwe Valar: If you're experience more severe lag than usual, check to
see if Blizzard's background Downloader is
VardaValar1: especially if you're on Dial-up
Eonwe Valar: It's something they added a couple of patches ago to try
and make it wuicker for peeople to get the patch dowloaded by
downloading small parts before the big release.
Eonwe Valar: unfortunately, it's part of the Blizzard Downloader, which
means people are downloading from you just as you are downloading from
Eonwe Valar: This can cause lag, cable internet or not.
Eonwe Valar: So if it gets too unable, remember that you can deactivate
Eonwe Valar: *unbearable
Eonwe Valar: I'll put up a post on our Forums under General WoW linking
to the info on the Downloader.
VardaValar1: We disabled it on all our computers and got Elwing's
computer back online that way, thanks to Eonwe's tip in the game.
Eonwe Valar: That that turned out to be what was causing Elwing's
Eonwe Valar: *So that.
VardaValar1: It was indeed. She is now happily playing again. : )
Eonwe Valar: Gald to hear that :]\
Eonwe Valar: Glad even.
Eonwe Valar: One more thing to add to all this.
VardaValar1: She may not sleep much on her WoW nights. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Several people have asked for it, so a server was chosen
upon which we can play together on the Horde side.
Eonwe Valar: Varda took a look at the server lists and chose for us
Uldaman, one of the new servers.
Eonwe Valar: Primary Guild questing will still be on Lothar, but if it
just gets too ugly there due to lag, Uldaman is open for guild members.
VardaValar1: That was our primary reason, lag. We were also wanting to
try out some Horde together, about 8 of us, and needed a place.
VardaValar1: Plus Blood Elves will be out someday. ;-)
VardaValar1: We currently are using the Valar channel, not a formal
VardaValar1: We type /join Valar
VardaValar1: then we can find each other and put eachother on our buddy
VardaValar1: This is similar to what we do on all games that don't have
a formal branch.
VardaValar1: I would be willing to put up an Uldaman members page if
you folks would like it. It might be needed more than the Lothar page.
STEvilaim: hey, the evolution3d links are broken on the links page..
VardaValar1: But I'll need more help with your names.
VardaValar1: ouch. What's it under, Scatha?
STEvilaim: making your own game and....
STEvilaim: tolkien online gaming
VardaValar1: ahh, ok. I think they went down. Will have to check that
VardaValar1: any further Gaming news?
by Crytek looks really cool? ;-)
ArPharazonV: got a new gamecard this week!
VardaValar1: Good Phar!
VardaValar1: Is Crysis multiplayer?
ArPharazonV: dinner at 6, raid at 8, and I found out my gametime had
run out at 4...
STEvilaim: yes, sequel to "Farcry"
ArPharazonV: so I had 2 hours to take the bus to the city, buy a new
card, and get back home ;-)
ArPharazonV: made it with 30 minutes to spare ;-)
VardaValar1: Congrats to Phar the Speedy. : )
VardaValar1: Scatha, did you have a chance to play it and can you give
us the link?
STEvilaim: i'm not in the beta/alpha so no info from me other than
whats on the net
VardaValar1: They should know to put all Valar in these beta tests. ;-)
ArPharazonV: hmhm, we should take an effort to get us known in the
gaming world! :-P
VardaValar1: Free publicity if nothing else. : )
Eonwe Valar: Conduct yourselves honorably and get out there :}
VardaValar1: Feel free to post on LotRO etc, but keep it polite and
informative. : )
BhonTuath: hehe lets make the world tremble when they hear the name
Valar .. *eg*]
VardaValar1: What Eonwe said. : )
ArPharazonV: what Finduilas said ;-)
VardaValar1: Let's not, Finduilas : )
Eonwe Valar: Every member of the Valar Guild is the face of the Valar
Guild. You are our ambassadors.
VardaValar1: Rather they want to come to us than run. : )
BhonTuath: hihi yeah , in awe , Varda, not in fer ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Get out there and Make us Proud :}
VardaValar1: Each of you is an ambassador and a scout for the
Eonwe Valar: I would like to quote from Faramir when he speaks of Minas
ArPharazonV: the time comes when the Valar shake the councils of the
wise, the great, and the gaming companies...
Eonwe Valar: I would like to, but I'd need my book to do so, and I
don't know if you want to sit here while I flip through pages :}
VardaValar1: Have to pull them off the games and webwork long enough to
be more present.
VardaValar1: Sure, we'll do things while you flip pages. : )
VardaValar1: Faramir has a lot of fun words to wade through. : )
VardaValar1: Show your quality. : )
VardaValar1: I think we are already moving into Tolkien so let's make
it official. : )
VardaValar1: On this week's additions to the web pages were a lot of
Menelvagor Valar: I'm off to bed, have a great night everyone!
VardaValar1: Good night!
ArPharazonV: night Menel!
BhonTuath: Good night Menel
Gamatzgamatz has left the room.
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
BhonTuath has left the room.
VardaValar1: Errand of Fate has a journey,
taking the valuable heirloom
VardaValar1: Journeys are very big in Tolkien, of all kinds.
ArPharazonV: one particular journey from Hobbiton to Mount Doom comes
VardaValar1: The Last to Dance once again shows how Aragorn spreads
hope during his journey.
VardaValar1: Aye, Phar. : )
VardaValar1: That was a long trek for those tiny folk!
Eonwe Valar: I think I found my quote :}
VardaValar1: Go Eonwe!
BhonTuath has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiyata. : )
BhonTuath: thx :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe found the quote from Faramir. : )
Eonwe Valar: "I would have her loved
for her memory, her ancientry, her
beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the
degnity of a man, old and wise." :}
Eonwe Valar: *dignity
VardaValar1: That exactly fits what we hoped for the attitude towards
the Valar Guild. : )
STEvilaim: must take my leave, still feeling the affects of my birthday
on the 9th ;-) Fare well
ArPharazonV: namarie! and happy birthday
Eonwe Valar: take care :}
Eonwe Valar: Happy Birthday :}
STEvilaim has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: On journey, there's the Journey to Henneth Annun :}
VardaValar1: Unexpected friends on the way to Mordor, and beauty.
VardaValar1: and fissh.
ArPharazonV: so juicy sweeeet!
Eonwe Valar: Faramir showed a cunning control of the situation at
henneth Annun. Had Sam all relaxed and... "talky" :}
BhonTuath: hihihi ye know what? I thought last week some point it would
make a nice topic for in here *chuckles*
VardaValar1: Faramir is dangerous to talk with. : )
Eonwe Valar: Aye, he definitely shows he's a capable leader :}
VardaValar1: He didn't need the roughness the movie showed. In the
books, he talked them into giving up all their information. : )
Eonwe Valar: Didn't have to force one word out of Sam and he got all
the info he wanted :}
Eonwe Valar: Maybe he should've wined and dined Gollum too :}
VardaValar1: but Sam was right. That was a trustworthy person.
VardaValar1: Frodo was so busy denying Gollum was with them. I think
that may have been an error in dealing with Faramir.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, Faramir was. Such did Frodo and Sam find out, at the
end of the Journey to Henneth Annun :}
BhonTuath: I think his heart saw further than his head - Sam's I mean.
VardaValar1: Heart, intuition, I agree.
Eonwe Valar: Interesting thought.
VardaValar1: A lot of talk is in body language, inflections, all things
Sam probably picked up on.
VardaValar1: Also how Faramir's men reacted to Faramir.
ArPharazonV: things that could hardly be portrayed in a movie....
VardaValar1: They want a lot of visual action, but those visual cues
could show up better in a movie.
Eonwe Valar: The loyalty of Faramir's men could be portrayed in a movie.
VardaValar1: That it got across on a printed page that well is
VardaValar1: His men did seem loyal in the movie.
Eonwe Valar: Beregond's chat with Pippin about Faramir would've been a
good scene to get that across as well.
BhonTuath: I think that came a bit too short in the movie, but words do
often serve better than pictures ..
ArPharazonV: except for the fact that there was no Beregond in the
movie... they were quite careful with the introduction of new characters
VardaValar1: There were so many characters that it would be easy to
lose viewers who did not read the books.
VardaValar1: That's one reason Glorfindel was left out in the animated
and live movies.
ArPharazonV: visual details, loads of new characters, outstretched
conversation.... all examples of where the movies could have lost a lot
of viewers indeed
ArPharazonV: we often complain about the movies and their details and
differences.. but a lot of the changes were almost necessary to appeal
to a larger audience
Eonwe Valar: To paraphrase Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura:When Nature Calls:
"Oh sure, let's do all the things the general public wants to do."
Eonwe Valar: And alot of changes were not.
ArPharazonV: no audience is no money... no expected audience is no
movie at all
ArPharazonV: and when not compared with the books, it was still a
fairly good movie :-)
BhonTuath: weel , I think Jackson did make a marvelous job
Orodreth V has entered the room.
BhonTuath: I think of rthe books that were turned into film , these
three are of the most accurate I can think of
Eonwe Valar: Sure, the general public can sit through 3 hours watching
a ship sink but can't sit through 4 watching something be given a
little more truly to the books?
VardaValar1: I'm glad he pulled back on the Xenarwen thing. : )
BhonTuath: Aiya Orodreth
VardaValar1: Hi there, Orodreth : )
ArPharazonV: Aiya Oro
Eonwe Valar: Heya Orodreth
ArPharazonV: and that's what the extended edition is for, Eonwe ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movies, but there are
some parts that just get my dander up
ArPharazonV: just a tid bit closer and more complete :-)
VardaValar1: Same here, Eonwe. : )
Eonwe Valar: no, tid bit is right, hehe.
ArPharazonV: well, but I meant tad, anyway :-)
VardaValar1: One complaint about the books was that they were too
short. : )
BhonTuath: some say the introduction is too long , grin
ArPharazonV: I've heard more complaints that they were too long, aye :-)
ArPharazonV: or do you mean the movie's introduction, Finduilas?
VardaValar1: I would have liked a lot more on some things in the books,
BhonTuath: no the books
Eonwe Valar: I would've preferred seeing Glorfindel for 10 minutes and
never seeing him onscreen again to what they did.
VardaValar1: England was having a paper shortage at the time. Amazing
it made it out at it's length.
VardaValar1: I agree, Eonwe.
ArPharazonV: well, sure, we do, because we love the books
VardaValar1: They sure made Frodo look weak in the movie.
ArPharazonV: for people who start with the movies, a 10-minute
Glorfindel and then a complete disappearance would be quite redundant
VardaValar1: Frodo should not have had so many of his moments cut.
VardaValar1: Arwen took over his defiance of the Nazguls.
Eonwe Valar: Like the old Hobbit who smiles at the fireworks in the
first movie then frowns at the returning Hobbits in the last?
ArPharazonV: good point ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Getting an extra to play Glorfindel for a few hours of
shooting wouldn't have killed anything.
VardaValar1: I'm going to run into a time problem soon. We still have a
test to give.
BhonTuath: hhmm was that supposed to be the sackvilee - bagginses?
Shame they didn't get in hehe
Eonwe Valar: Ready when you are.
ArPharazonV: oh, they did, actually
ArPharazonV: in the extended edition, they had a more "present" part
ArPharazonV: at Bilbo's party
Eonwe Valar: That was a Sackville-Baggins?
Eonwe Valar: Thought that was a Proudfoot?
Eonwe Valar: He reminds me of the "Proudfeet" part.
VardaValar1: there was the Proudfoot, aye. But also S-B's
ArPharazonV: aye, they were looking for Bilbo and he hid from them
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, don't remember them. Will have to pay more attention
next time I watch it.
VardaValar1: It's not long.
ArPharazonV: but it's there :-)
VardaValar1: There are lots of tiny bits that one can miss in an
eyeblink, just for us book-lovers. : )
BhonTuath: hmmm have to watche the dvds again .. what a hardship hehe
VardaValar1: hehe - right
VardaValar1: Only problem is being time-consuming
VardaValar1: Guess while doing homework? :-)
ArPharazonV: hehe... 11 hours of movie... not something you casually do
on a random day
BhonTuath: *g* got me there lol]
Eonwe Valar: Have to get piles of snacks... Sandwiches, chips, soda,
maybe some pasta for halfway through the second.... Oh, I don't have to
watch them all back-to-back? :}
ArPharazonV: not in a single run, Varda :-)
VardaValar1: Nope, not required. : )
ArPharazonV: watching them in one go would sure be interesting
Eonwe Valar: I've done it :}
Eonwe Valar: Extended editions :}
ArPharazonV: start at 4 pm and go on to 3 am... fun way to spend an
Eonwe Valar: Sounds roughly correct :}
VardaValar1: Or weekend and start early.
VardaValar1: I'm more of a morning elf, er Valie.
ArPharazonV: not me, I'm usually more afternoon/evening
ArPharazonV: when I don't have college, the day usually starts at 2 pm
ArPharazonV: and when I do have college the day doesn't really start
for me until I'm back home ;-)
VardaValar1: Well, Orodreth. Guess you'd better make that report now. :
ArPharazonV: so 4pm to 3am is really something I should try... get a
few friends over, get the snacks out, and not blink for 11 hours ;-)
VardaValar1: Blink? One might blink during LotR?
ArPharazonV: nooo, you'd only miss the details!
ArPharazonV: one blink, and you might miss the S-B's at the party!
Eonwe Valar: That's ok, your friends wouldn't mind you constantly
rewinding after each blink.
Orodreth V: /me pokes his head in
VardaValar1: Hi there!
Orodreth V: My (very) belated gaming
bot is gone until
further notice, as it was becoming unstable for some unknown reason and
crashes during firefights in Eve was not cool.
VardaValar1: Thanks for letting us know.
Orodreth V: WoS
I got my server to work, it will be up and passworded
as soon as I get told what it should be. :p
ArPharazonV: what it should be?
ArPharazonV: oh, the password
ArPharazonV: been so long since I saw or used that password.... no idea
what it is... did we even get a new one this year?
VardaValar1: That would be me you ask, and not in public. : )
Orodreth V: I think I used it once in a SC game when I first joined...
Orodreth V: So yea. Meant to email you but forgot.
ArPharazonV: not asking what it is, just asking if we had it changed
this year :-)
Eonwe Valar: Oh, another note of WoW interest: the talent calculators
on the WoW site have been redesigned to be better and respond
Orodreth V: Anyways, the server will be up as much as my computer is,
under the name Valar Private Server.
I won't set the world command
either, so you can play any world you want...
Orodreth V: ...until I get on, kick you off, and start up Aeri.
Orodreth V: ;-)
ArPharazonV: it's online now?
Orodreth V: Will be in a minute.
Orodreth V: Is now. Should show up in the list in a minute or two.
Orodreth V: Adding it to startup in a second.
ArPharazonV: I'm in!
VardaValar1: Ok, passwording handled. : )
Orodreth V: Well...
Orodreth V: I can't seem to see my own server. :p
Eonwe Valar: It's over there *points to location of server in
Orodreth's house* :}
Orodreth V: Keep your day job. :p
Eonwe Valar: Will do :}
ArPharazonV: c'mon, join, it's lonely in here ;-)
Orodreth V: Soon as I can, I will.
VardaValar1: pardon, in test
VardaValar1: We have one of your players there. ; )
VardaValar1: Bhon Tuath
ArPharazonV: it appears my wasp is finally getting healthier again...
had him on a wrong diet for a while, so was sickly... and now has
practically no stamina....
Eonwe Valar: Wasp?
VardaValar1: What do you feed him?
Eonwe Valar: Nm, don't think I want to know.
VardaValar1: Well of Souls pet
Eonwe Valar: oh ok
ArPharazonV: had been so long... I thought I had to make his diet the
same color as the circle portraying his stomach.. then it turned out it
has to be the same color as his face ;-)
ArPharazonV: but he's allright now, I have him on his pure green
diet.... quite easy to feed :-)
ArPharazonV: so now it's just a matter of time again before he finally
starts to gain some hp!
BhonTuath: hey cool Orod
VardaValar1: Good to know
VardaValar1: I will be playing sometimes, especially when I can't get
past the competition for the WoW computers. ;-)
ArPharazonV: eck! almost had that gnome king.... but one spell was
enough to finish me off...
Orodreth V: If I could make it in, I'd help you, but I can't... :p
ArPharazonV: eh, I'll try again when I'm a level higher :-)
Orodreth V: Ar, pop over to the Aeri server. Until I can play on my own
server, that's where I'll be. :p
ArPharazonV: oh, allright
ArPharazonV: what was it again? /im
Orodreth V: yea
ArPharazonV: any idea how to identify a song that plays at a specific
moment at the midi-list?
VardaValar1: In some programs it might be at the top of the window?
ArPharazonV: I mean inside the game :-)
VardaValar1: I have no idea. : )
Orodreth V: You have to dig through the scriping.
Orodreth V: and with Aeri, that's a real chore. :p
Orodreth V: Ar, when you connected to my sever, did you get spammed
with the message "You seem to have lost your network connection"?
ArPharazonV: nope, had that last week, but not this time
Orodreth V: k
Orodreth V: rebooting router, back in a flash
Orodreth V has left the room.
Orodreth V has left the room.
Orodreth V has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: well, this is interesting... just found a book about the
history of Innleach...
ArPharazonV: with the main character a paladin called Turin and his
sword Gurthang :-D
Orodreth V: So Loric borrowed a little.. :p
Eonwe Valar: Is his best friend's name Beleg? :}
ArPharazonV: wooh, just killed the gnome king
Orodreth V: (level 10 :P)
ArPharazonV: he killed my wasp, but I'm alive... and my wasp comes
easily back to life
ArPharazonV: lvl 12 myself!
BhonTuath: 17 ..
ArPharazonV: well, gotta go, time for bed
ArPharazonV: good luck with the test
ArPharazonV: saving and sending
VardaValar1: Thank you!
Orodreth V: Bhon, type /im 4892
VardaValar1: Forgive her if she's a bit distracted, as she's in a test
Orodreth V: Ahh.
ArPharazonV: Namarie all!
ArPharazonV has left the room.
Orodreth V: I have meeting logs on here starting in april of last year.
VardaValar1: But you never send one in?
VardaValar1: You do get credit for it. : )
VardaValar1: Your name in type. : )
Orodreth V: They're all in one big file, with central timestamps..
VardaValar1: You ever read them?
Orodreth V: No. :p
Orodreth V: Actually, I did just now to find the channel number.
Orodreth V: For woS.
Orodreth V: But other than that, no. :p
VardaValar1: Might want to clear some comp space then : )
VardaValar1: It's supposedly on the guild site
VardaValar1: Finduilas-(V), welcome to the Valar Guild as a Full Member!
VardaValar1: You just earned your promotion. :-)
Orodreth V: It takes up a few mb is all..Besides I'm sure it'll come in
BhonTuath: Ok i folks , I ; ll move my tired behind out of here ;-)
BhonTuath: some peeps have to work hehe
Orodreth V: /me basks in summer vacation
BhonTuath: some folk have all the luck good night for now see ye folk
next Week :-) , am on Eve btw Orod ;-)
BhonTuath: iyell see me , I fly the Nargothrond
VardaValar1: She's a fellow Eve Onliner. : )
BhonTuath: Namarie !
VardaValar1: And she got 5/5 while nearly asleep. : )
BhonTuath has left the room.
Orodreth V: !
Orodreth V: Argh, need to ask her all the details next time.
Orodreth V: I dbout she has an inside line on Wolf production, but
there's alwaya chance, right?
VardaValar1: Never know. : )
Orodreth V: I get them cheap, but the price just went from 12m to 15m.
:| Market is 20m, but I'd rather pay 12 either way..
Orodreth V: Anyways, I'm about a third of the way to the level req for
making a guild on Orodreth, and over two thirds of the way their on my
VardaValar1: As in you have enough alts to nearly make a guild? : )
Orodreth V: :p
Orodreth V: No, you need level 60 to create a guild. Dorfl is like 43
and Orodreth is 24.
Orodreth V: Don't need a number of people like on wc3 or wow.
VardaValar1: One guy is enough for a guild?
Orodreth V: Yup.
Orodreth V: :p
Arwen V1 has left the room.
VardaValar1: Did you see Arwen come in?
VardaValar1: I only saw her leave.
Eonwe Valar: I only saw herleave as well.
Orodreth V: Arwen has uberchat powers. She comes into rooms and you
don't even know it....
Orodreth V: *twilight zone music*
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Now we know!
Orodreth V: So, do you have an email for our newest member? Or better
yet, here Eve name?
Orodreth V: her*
VardaValar1: yes, we have her email. It's on the Tolkien-only page
VardaValar1: She was Finduilas-(TV) and was promoted today to
VardaValar1: In case you need it now before the update. : )
Orodreth V: heh
Orodreth V: Varda, I got bows from 0 to 25 if you want to get on and
take them. :p I have no use for them.
VardaValar1: Too bad no mailbox
Orodreth V: :-(
VardaValar1: Carrying a bow I can't use now
Orodreth V: Heh.
VardaValar1: I probably should
VardaValar1: Big Tolkien discussion on a side window : )
VardaValar1: I'll get on
VardaValar1: This isn't the computer I put WoS on, be a bit.
VardaValar1: Currently doing the download and install, among other
Orodreth V: Er.
Orodreth V: You won't be able to play your character unless you move
the original WoS folder over.
VardaValar1: oh well
VardaValar1: That's bad news
Orodreth V: A downside to storing characters clinetside. :
Orodreth V: :\
VardaValar1: I need to play it on this comp, so I'll just start a new
one here to actually play.
VardaValar1: The other wasn't far along, good learning character.
Orodreth V: heh
Orodreth V: Well, filling out a job app now, so not playing really. :p
VardaValar1: Multiplayer Network choice?
VardaValar1: Any Public MIX Game Server?
VardaValar1: You had a server you wanted us on?
VardaValar1: Or just jump on in?
VardaValar1: ok, jumping in while you fill in job app. Good luck on it!
Orodreth V: Aerianell
Orodreth V: Is the name of the server I'm on.
VardaValar1: Thought you were making something you wanted us on?
Orodreth V: Was, but I can't play on it. :p
VardaValar1: Aerianell is where we went last time.
VardaValar1: You can't play on yours? heh
Orodreth V: Working on a solution with some server gurus, but they had
to go, so I need to wait untl tomorrow.
VardaValar1: Will we have to rebuild our characters to use it? I assume?
TH0R0NGIL has left the room.
VardaValar1: Using name Elbereth,
elf instead of elf2
Orodreth V: No.
Orodreth V: Your characters are interchangeable over servers.
Orodreth V: That's the pro side of clientside characters.
VardaValar1: Helps keep me straight. ;-)
VardaValar1: Having an idea of what to do makes all the difference in
the World. :-)
VardaValar1: Leveling and not dying
Orodreth V: Heh. Once you get higher I'll run Dorfl through the
Coilisium a few time and get you the armor and stuff.
VardaValar1: I didn't want to be a warrior
VardaValar1: Wanted to be an archer
VardaValar1: Must have hit something wrong somewhere
VardaValar1: I'm a good warrior, but not what I intended.
VardaValar1: Do I need to delete and restart?
VardaValar1: He said yes, I did. All is well now :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}