Valar Guild

December 10, 2006 Meeting

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Ar-Pharazon-(V) and Varda-(Valar)

Attending (12):
    ArathornValar, Arwen V1, Bombur-(V)/MrMonkey2002Blah, Eonwe Valar (presiding), FinduilasV, FladrifV, Gil-galad-(V)/Xseanzee disco, Gilraen-(V)/Star of Phaet, GwaihirValar, Menelvagor Valar, Orodreth V, Valandil Valar

Meeting begins
    New Full Member Feanor!
    WoW branch in Europe was formed last weekend and is active.
    Finduilas' fiance was in a car accident and was banged up but survived unmaimed.
    Varda and Fangorn are on vacation and will be back next weekend.
    New Stories
    Eve Online
    Battle for Middle-earth 2: new expansion for the Witch-king
    LotRO new spot shown to the general public: Green Dragon
    WoW: huge new patch getting ready for the Burning Crusades expansion and more emphasis on pvp.
    Topic 1: Languages in role-play naming and phrases
    Topic 2: What can we learn about the characters in Tolkien's works from their names? Tangent: Lobelia
    More Tolkien topic 2, then gaming chat

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FinduilasV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya all
Eonwe Valar: Heya
GwaihirValar has entered the room.
FinduilasV: Aiya there!
Star of Phaet: Every week, this sneeks up on me
ArPharazonV: hehe
GwaihirValar: Didn't think it was sunday.....
GwaihirValar: lol
Eonwe Valar: We'll give it a couple more minutes then begin.
Eonwe Valar: Anyone with member, web, or gaming news can whisper me now to expedite the meeting.
Eonwe Valar: And start thinking of Tolkien topics :}
Valandil Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya Valandil
Valandil Valar: hi
Eonwe Valar: Meeting hasn't started yet, will shortly.
FinduilasV: I have to get the pizza out of the oven , hang on a sec
Valandil Valar: ok
ArPharazonV: shows the introduction movie for the Burning Crusade, btw
MrMonkey2002Blah: iI use CRUSADERSTRIKElol
Eonwe Valar: I have Crusader Strike as well :}
Eonwe Valar: My combat has become more mana-intensive :}
Eonwe Valar: But I can now kill a lvl 58 elite, so that's a tradeoff I guess Ican live with :}
ArPharazonV: mangle for me!
Eonwe Valar: kill as in solo :}
GwaihirValar: hunter survival is so weak now... lol...
Eonwe Valar: If you see any guild members on who aren't here, please send them an invite.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's go ahead and begin.

Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: As of last week, we have a WoW branch set up on European Servers.
FinduilasV: :-D
Eonwe Valar: We also have a new member from over there, who has taken the name Fëanor. Welcome to him!
Orodreth V has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Varda and Fangorn are out of town until Friday.
Eonwe Valar: But I'm still here, so never fear :}
Eonwe Valar: Finduilas, you had member news?
FinduilasV: aha .. indeed
FinduilasV: It is not very good news or lets say more than lucky in mishap
FinduilasV: eru has held his protective hand over my fiance as he crashed headfront into another car
FinduilasV: He is at home now but has two dislocated toes and a broken one , including a bruised lung and maybe a crack in the sternum
Eonwe Valar: Ouch. Sorry to hear that, Finduilas.
Star of Phaet: oh dear
GwaihirValar: I hope he's alright
FinduilasV: the other lady is with leg injuries in Inverness but she will be on the mend as well , we hope
FinduilasV: Aye, Gwaihir he holds up well - still very uncomfortable with his crutches though and we have made this room here his temporary bedroom
Eonwe Valar: Heya to Finduilas' husband :}
Eonwe Valar: Guess that means he gets to come to meetings whether he likes it or not? :}
FinduilasV: But on the whole its only the cars .. , and normally I would have been in the car too
FinduilasV: The shifts were swapped ...
FinduilasV: well , hehe, Eonwe , he is jetting through space right now '=_
Eonwe Valar: Ah :}
FinduilasV: thats it from my side,
Eonwe Valar: Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband :}
FinduilasV: thanks :-)
Eonwe Valar: I've got one more piece of Membership news, but before I begin on it, is there any more membership news?
Eonwe Valar: Ok, then let's begin :}
Eonwe Valar: Varda poses a question to the membership from beyond the internet:
Eonwe Valar: "Would you like to use the old Yahoo Forum, which can be delivered as email at your discretion, as a way to read the News sent to your email or that you can add to without having to go through an admin?
Eonwe Valar: It an also be a way to upload your poetry, stories, articles, gaming remarks, and comments without having to go through Varda, for things that don't go well on our current ProBoards.
Eonwe Valar: Please let your feelings be known either at the meeting or by emailing Varda."
Eonwe Valar: Your thoughts?
FinduilasV: It certainly would take work off her hands
Star of Phaet: I could see why it would be useful, though I don't know if I'd use it myself. I have more than enough email most days as it is!
Eonwe Valar: For those who may not remember, we do have a Yahoo Discussion Board :}
Eonwe Valar: It was used before we moved to the current forum.
ArPharazonV: yup, same, more than enough mail usually.. but I guess it would be useful for those sending in stuff
Eonwe Valar: Anyone else?
Eonwe Valar: Ok, well make sure you e-mail Varda your thoughts then :}
Eonwe Valar: Those of you who didn't respond here :}
Eonwe Valar: Input from the membership is not only important, it's welcome :}
Orodreth V: I wouldn't personally. Checking the news only take a few clicks.
FinduilasV: i have checked the news several times this week , its easy enough
FinduilasV: but of course does it mean more work for Varda and as such it would be of use
Eonwe Valar: I'm not exactly sure whether she'd maintain both the current new page and post news to the Yahoo forum, but I'm guessing not.
Eonwe Valar: *current news page
Eonwe Valar: I'm sure her intention is basically to make sure members do know what's going on in the Guild and have a chance to participate, since not all come to meetings for various reasons, and not all can catch us in games for various reason
Eonwe Valar: s.
Eonwe Valar: (I agree that that current news page is pretty easy to check though :})
FladrifV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Fladrif
FladrifV: aiya
Eonwe Valar: We were just talking about a question Varda asked the membership.
Valandil Valar: suilannad
FladrifV: and namarie...Im so sleepy of the long travel
Eonwe Valar: ok :}
Eonwe Valar: Take care :}
FladrifV: (back in nl again)
Eonwe Valar: Check the news page for the question and e-mail Varda your thoughts :}
ArPharazonV: Namarie, Flad!
Eonwe Valar: Welcome back :}
ArPharazonV: don't forget to stop by at my place while you're in the country ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Sleep well :}
FinduilasV: Namarie, Flad!
FladrifV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Any more on Varda's question?
Eonwe Valar: If not, we'll go ahead and move to web news.
Valandil Valar: i cannot comment because i would n t know what i am talking about
Eonwe Valar: Basically using our Old Yahoo board for what Varda suggested :}
Eonwe Valar: Let me grab a link for you.
Eonwe Valar: If I can find it, heh :}
Valandil Valar: either will work for me. It is not unreasonable of her to ask the question
Eonwe Valar:
Eonwe Valar: Ok :}
Eonwe Valar: On with the meeting then.

Eonwe Valar: Web news:
Eonwe Valar: New Stories:
Eonwe Valar: New chapter up for "Ten Thousand Years Will Not Suffice" by Alcardilme-(TV): TA 2943 aka chapter 5.
Eonwe Valar: Mellon Chronicles Series: "Priceless Treasure" by Cassia-(TV) and Siobhan-(TV) is now edited and linked in.
Eonwe Valar: Story up: Mellon Chronicles Series' "The Stars of Harad" by Cassia-(TV) and Siobhan-(TV) is up.
Eonwe Valar: That's it for stories.
Eonwe Valar: Write Encyclopedia articles and send them in :}
Eonwe Valar: I suppose it's safe to assume there's no other Web news :}
Eonwe Valar: Is there? :}

Eonwe Valar: Ok, on to Gaming then :}
Eonwe Valar: Eve: Orodreth still thinks you all should give it a try :} He says the low level experience has been greatly improved.
Eonwe Valar: Battle for Middle-Earth 2: The Expansion, Rise of the Witch-King, snuck out into the stores, with no pomp or ceremony, no great declarations of its coming, heh.
Eonwe Valar: Interesting how EA puts out an expansion based on the Witch-King of Angmar, and Turbine is putting out an MMO whose first part is centered around Angmar... :}
ArPharazonV: hmmm... expansion, eh? hadn't heard of it indeed
ArPharazonV: I should take a look at that
Eonwe Valar: I only stumbled upon it a couple of months ago. Expected to be hearing about it in game stores I frequent, but nope, nothing, and then boom, it'd been out for a month before I even knew it was out.
Eonwe Valar: LotRO:
Eonwe Valar: New beta Journals, new skills for classes shown.
Eonwe Valar: New place of interest: the Green Dragon :}
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: New patch out. Took me all week to download, so unfortunately I don't have a questing report for you today.
Eonwe Valar: Hopefully one of those who might've been around will put one up on the forums.
FinduilasV: Well , the patch has nice graphics and nice new abilities but i think the European servers still have trouble with it
Eonwe Valar: But, I can now kill a lvl 58 elite solo if that means anything :}
ArPharazonV: raids have been a little harsh this week, because addons stopped working or are now bugged
Eonwe Valar: Sorry to hear that Finduilas.
Eonwe Valar: I heard they were disabling some mods like Decursive.
ArPharazonV: and one of the most important addons, decursive, which automatically selects and decurses/depoisons other people if you have that ability, has stopped working alltogether
ArPharazonV: aye
ArPharazonV: which makes a lot of bossfights a LOT harder
ArPharazonV: also, many people have shifted focus from raiding to battlegrounds
ArPharazonV: I too have been bg-ing quite a bit
Eonwe Valar: Aye, with the new PvP system out.
ArPharazonV: yes
ArPharazonV: it's now a lot easier to acquire epic gear by saving up honor and marks of honor than it used to be
ArPharazonV: so many people are trying to get this gear
FinduilasV: My druid has had her first few battles yesterday and i think we did come out quite well :-)
ArPharazonV: I myself have been after some feral pants, which are lacking in the raid-instances
Eonwe Valar: I might just try my Paladin in PvP with the new changes.
Eonwe Valar: With the Honor grind, there was no reason for me to get involved because I'd never be able to play enough to make it worthwhile.
ArPharazonV: so yeah, I've been testing out my new abilities and talents quite a bit, in the few raids we have done, and in Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin
ArPharazonV: exactly
ArPharazonV: but now with the ranking system gone, honor doesn't deteriate, and can be used as cash to get the gear you would otherwise only get at a high rank
Eonwe Valar: Aye, but for the best PvP gear you still have to compete in the Arena.
ArPharazonV: I haven't really tested the Arena yet, heard you can't get any rewards from it until lvl 70
Eonwe Valar: That'll be the competitive ladder, and even that sounds like it might be interesting.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, nothing until 70, but doesn't hurt to get practice now :}
ArPharazonV: also, there have been several new questnodes found since the patch, and as I'm on my eternal mission to complete as many quests as possible
ArPharazonV: that too has been taking my time :-)
Eonwe Valar: The rewards for the arena are supposed to be on par with the most current raid sets at the time.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, I like that they gave another bank column/bagspace and 5 more quest slots :}
ArPharazonV: yes, indeed :-)
Eonwe Valar: Anyone wanting to check this out themselves, patch notes can be found on the WoW community site :}
ArPharazonV: also, the new patch came with new areas added but not accessible yet
Eonwe Valar: The talent calcualtor links don't point to the correct calculators, however.
ArPharazonV: Quel'Thalas now has a portal which you can only pass if you have the expansion
Eonwe Valar: Aye, this patch was to add in support for the expansion.
Eonwe Valar: Which comes out Jan 16th :}
ArPharazonV: and the Azuremyst Isles, starting zone of the Draenei, are on the map now but still inaccessible
ArPharazonV: also, there is now added a map of Outland to your map-system
ArPharazonV: with all the zones in place
ArPharazonV: but of course, the portal isn't open yet (as far as I know, haven't travelled there so far)
Eonwe Valar: Haven't seen the outland map yet. Will have to check that out :}
ArPharazonV: if you zoom out from the worldmap, you get a new map showing both worlds
ArPharazonV: and then you can click on the Outland map and navigate through it as you would through the map of Azeroth
ArPharazonV: of course, nothing is explored yet
Arwen V1 has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's leave some surprises for those who haven't checked the new patch out yet :}
ArPharazonV: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Is there any questing/grouping news from the newly formed European branch?
ArPharazonV: as I've been raiding, pvp-ing and doing the new quests with my main, I have not really visited the guildbranch yet, although we have kept contact through our new channel
ArPharazonV: as for questing, you would have to ask Finduilas or Menelvagor
FinduilasV: My paladin has quite a bit been on the road with Orophin and Archemelos
ArPharazonV: or Valandil, or Feanor, or others, of course
FinduilasV: or what is his name, Valandil?
Valandil Valar: aeremethar
FinduilasV: Aeremethar , of course , .. we have been looking for a robot which we found near the Deep Chasm
Eonwe Valar: Remind me where the Deep Chasm is?
FinduilasV: Tanaris
FinduilasV: Near Un Goro Crater
Valandil Valar: with Orophin you also went hunting in Feralas
Eonwe Valar: Ah, thanks.
FinduilasV: thatr s right , Valandil, Yeti and Sea Giants
Valandil Valar: yes
Valandil Valar: Orophin also helped a certain druid in Darkshore
FinduilasV: ah, Indeed . .. and a warrior
Valandil Valar: yes
Valandil Valar: a warrior elf Lady
Eonwe Valar: Glad to hear you've been getting together and gaming :}
FinduilasV: Finduilasse is now free to join the Valar Guild , but unfortunately Menelvagor has not been on to invite him yet
FinduilasV: but I am sure it will happen this week some time
FinduilasV: It has been good fun :-) Orophin and Aremethar are kind companions
FinduilasV: That's it from my side then ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
Eonwe Valar: Send me Tolkien topics as well :}

    Topic 1: Languages in role-play naming and phrases
    Topic 2: What can we learn about the characters in Tolkien's works from their names? Tangent: Lobelia
ArathornValar: Who is Rohirawyn in Wow Lothar, Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar: Eowyn.
ArathornValar: Elwing as well?
Eonwe Valar: Creative name.
Eonwe Valar: No, Rohirawyn is only Eowyn.
ArathornValar: yeah it stymied me :-P
ArathornValar: who is Elwing again
Eonwe Valar: Elwing is Elwing :}
Eonwe Valar: Unsure what you're asking if you're not asking that :}
ArathornValar: ahh ok .. that makes sense then :-PI didnt see another name for her
ArathornValar: thought it was an alt for anotehr name
Eonwe Valar: Ok, glad I answered your question :}
Eonwe Valar: We try to have guild members use variants, even creative ones as you've seen, to help with recognition, as it at least give some hint as to the person :}
Eonwe Valar: Rohirawyn can tell you the owner must has something to do with horses/Rohan, and wyn you might recognize as similar to wen, which means maiden :}
Eonwe Valar: Of course, if that fails, asking helps too :}
Eonwe Valar: An added tidbit of trivia, Aragorn's horse was named Roheryn.
Eonwe Valar: Anything else for gaming?
Eonwe Valar: Send in Game Reviews :}
Valandil Valar: does anybody know a roleplay helper addon that works ?
FinduilasV: aye, i miss my flag RSP
ArathornValar: heh actually I found the horses name trying to find Eowyns alt :-P
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Valandil Valar: i used Roleplay helper, adjusted many sentences to quenia and Sindarin
Valandil Valar: Khuzdul
Eonwe Valar: We have a page full of Quenya phrases in the Valar Guild Encyclopedia.
Valandil Valar: for my dwarf
Valandil Valar: i know, but i have made may more
Valandil Valar: many more
Eonwe Valar: Written by fka Salmar/Irmo for the express purpose of roleplaying :]
FinduilasV: :-)
Valandil Valar: i know, it was very helpfull when i adjusted the addon ?
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, well technically that would be something like fka Irmo, who was fka Salmar.
Valandil Valar: but it doesn t work anymore
Eonwe Valar: Why not? besides you have more than the list now.
FinduilasV: The add ons dont work
Eonwe Valar: Oh, the addon itself doesn't work.
Eonwe Valar: Learn to speak Quenya? :}
FinduilasV: That's it {")
Valandil Valar: i know more sindarin then Quenya
Eonwe Valar: If you have a copy of some of yours, perhaps you could send them to Varda for inclusion?
Eonwe Valar: Or post them to the Forum :}
Eonwe Valar: Or both :}
Valandil Valar: i will have to put themin a more usefull form
Eonwe Valar: OK

Eonwe Valar: Well, shall we move to Tolkien chat?
Eonwe Valar: Since we've talked about names and languages in the last several minutes, I shall pose this question : What can we learn about the characters in Tolkien's works from their names?
FinduilasV: They say something about the person itself usually
Valandil Valar: wasn t Tolkien rule : first there was the name ?
Eonwe Valar: I don't recall a quote like that, Valandil, but generally speaking he did design the language, then the race using that language, so that wouldn't be far-fetched.
ArPharazonV: if I recall correctly, in Elven society, one had several names: 1 given by the mother based on some sort of instinct, 1 given several years later based on the shown personality
ArPharazonV: so presuming the parents were correct in choosing the name
Valandil Valar: yes
Valandil Valar: i recall that too
ArPharazonV: the names given to them would often represent their personalities!
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: In Elvish society at least :}
Valandil Valar: i try to do the same thing with my elven characters on WOW
Eonwe Valar: We can't really speak about "true" Dwarvish names though, since they never revealed those names to anyone.
FinduilasV: Ah and the Entish true names
FinduilasV: /me chuckles
Eonwe Valar: Names could also be descriptive of a physical trait.
Eonwe Valar: hehe Finduilas.
FinduilasV: It would take centureies to name them , grin
Eonwe Valar: What about Hobbits?
Eonwe Valar: There's quite a mix of names there, from Frodo to Gorhendad.
Eonwe Valar: Some roll off the tongue, and some trip it up.
Eonwe Valar: The name Gerontius is quite descriptive, if you ask me :}
Valandil Valar: indeed
FinduilasV: what does it mean>
FinduilasV: I think their surnames are usually .. plants isnt it?
Eonwe Valar: Gerontology is the study of aging.
ArPharazonV: did not know that
Eonwe Valar: Gerontius was the Oldest Hobbit until Bilbo :}
FinduilasV: ah .. true .. Old :-) The old Took
Eonwe Valar: Girl names are usually those of flowers/plants, aye.
Eonwe Valar: Rose, Elanor...
Eonwe Valar: Makes me wonder what a Lobelia is though...
Valandil Valar: a plant
ArPharazonV: probably a plant with attitude :-)
FinduilasV: i have heard the name actually for a plant aye, burt what kind?
Valandil Valar: it is
Eonwe Valar: I've never seen one or heard of it outside of Tolkien's work, to the best of my recollection.
Valandil Valar: we had one in the garden of my grandmother
Eonwe Valar: Ah, cool.
FinduilasV: it has blue flowers and is used as bedding plant, Bruce tells me
FinduilasV: coz it spreads out
Valandil Valar: yes
Eonwe Valar: Hehe, that fits then :}
Eonwe Valar: Lobelia was trying to "spread out" into Bag End :}
FinduilasV: ah poor old wify
Eonwe Valar: So there's another example of a name telling you about a character :}
FinduilasV: she had some spirit though
Eonwe Valar: Aye, she did.
Eonwe Valar: Too bad she used it for ill most of the time.
Valandil Valar: why ill ? just gready
Eonwe Valar: I would call that using it for ill :}
Eonwe Valar: She was generally not a pleasant person.
Eonwe Valar: Always pestering Bilbo and Frodo, for one.
Eonwe Valar: Had Bilbo declared dead while he was off to Erebor and tried to auction off his stuff.
Valandil Valar: i have an aunt like that, family ....
FinduilasV: what else should she think ?
FinduilasV: /me is playing devils advocate
FinduilasV: If your nephew ran off like this?
ArPharazonV: without a handkerchief? ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Why would she have Bilbo declared dead?
FinduilasV: ((mind you not necessarily my opinion , just speaking from her point of view))
FinduilasV: Well , he did disappear for months , didnt he?
Eonwe Valar: She didn't seem to care whether he was really dead or not, she just wanted his stuff.
Valandil Valar: yeah, it could be to preserve the family goods, it not healthy for a house not to be inhabited
Eonwe Valar: Bilbo gave her his set of silver spoons, believing (correctly) she had the missing ones.
FinduilasV: And she took them , of course
FinduilasV: Why refuse such a generous present?
Eonwe Valar: Fëanor would've thrown it at Frodo's head for such an insult, but hey, Fëanor didn't need a Hobbit's silver spoons either :}
FinduilasV: Na , hehe, he loved his gems ;-)
FinduilasV: I guess , Lobelia wanted to keep up some kind of legality
Eonwe Valar: Some kind, yeah. She didn't want the Hobbitfolk gossiping too much about what kind of a person she was.
FinduilasV: **guess she didn't manage that . alas, ye cant stop folks from gossipiping ))
FinduilasV: Well
FinduilasV: She had to keep up a reputation
FinduilasV: no bad on the family name, Bilbo but enough shame on it
FinduilasV: /me gets ready for a good kicking
Eonwe Valar: lol, looking back at the last few pages of the Hobbit. It was a few years before Hobbits would admit Bilbo, standing right in front of them, was in fact alive :}
Arwen V1: well, in most hobbit eyes that is so
Arwen V1: Hobbits arnt supposed to like excitement
Eonwe Valar: Seems BIlbo was "presumed dead."
FinduilasV: hmm ,
Eonwe Valar: I still don't doubt the Sackville-Bagginses had a hand in that though.
FinduilasV: > Lobelia: Why should we? The old goodfornothing was not there after months and months
FinduilasV: and it was the logical thing to do
Eonwe Valar: Of course she would say that, and Gollum would say the Ring was his birthday present.... :}
FinduilasV: It wass .. preciousss
Eonwe Valar: Seems the chat's died down. Shall we call it here and let you all head off to game or study for finals?
FinduilasV: Who is here besides me?
Eonwe Valar: Me of course :}
FinduilasV: And why dont you help Eonwe ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Anyone else?
Eonwe Valar: ?
Star of Phaet: I'm here, partly
Eonwe Valar: Help with?
ArPharazonV: me
FinduilasV: hmm arguing against me, i am trying to fire a discussion
ArPharazonV: well, you were right! It was his birthday presssent...
Star of Phaet: I'm with Finduilas and Lobelia here
FinduilasV: Anyone fancy coming on Ventrilo?
FinduilasV: Call it Eonwe ..
Eonwe Valar: Lobelia was not looking out for anyone other than the Sackville-Bagginses in her endeavors.
Eonwe Valar: They never admitted Bilbo was realyl Bilbo, and never had even a friendly relationship with him after he came back from Erebor.
FinduilasV: >Lobelia: It could have been any ruffian in disguise .. a true Baggins would not act like this
Eonwe Valar: Well then he was a very convincing ruffian, because everyone else more or less acknowledged it was him in time.
Eonwe Valar: And if it was a ruffian, he was an awefully generous one.
FinduilasV: to hide that they are ruffians ?
FinduilasV: /me chucles amused
Star of Phaet: it was onlya tiny portion of the Baggins wealth, secreted away in the depths f the hill
Eonwe Valar: I would like to think a person's own family would recognize him/her :}
FinduilasV: Finduilas V: as ofthen as Lobelia saw her who knows , grin
ArPharazonV: they just chose not to recognize him...
FinduilasV: him or the other family members
Eonwe Valar: The Tooks recognized him, but discouraged relations with him amongst the younger cousins because he wasn't respectable by Hobbit standards any more.
Eonwe Valar: Namely, he'd dared to have an adventure *gasp*!
FinduilasV: > Lobelia: there you go
Eonwe Valar: Well, then she dared to have an adventure when she beat one of Sharkey's men :}
Eonwe Valar: Lobelia's been throw in jail!
FinduilasV: oh , my bad, ;-)
FinduilasV: Ecvery one cheered when she came out
Eonwe Valar: And did she go around trying to steal Bag End from Frodo after that?
FinduilasV: no , she went to live with her folk in .. Staddle was it?
Eonwe Valar: Don't recall off the top of my head.
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: heya
FinduilasV: Aiya, theere Sparkling star
Eonwe Valar: Let's go ahead and call it here so those who want to can leave, and continue any further in After-meeting if anyone's willing :}
FinduilasV: - k
Eonwe Valar: *Bangs Gavel*

Eonwe Valar: Aftermeeting :}
FinduilasV: /me chuckles
FinduilasV: ooh that was fun *grin&
FinduilasV: I have a horde btw on Stromwheedle Cartell now , An orc shaman called Morianna
FinduilasV: fun rto play and rp
Eonwe Valar: cool :}
Xseanzee disco: good afternoon all : )
ArPharazonV: hey Gil!
Eonwe Valar: You just missed Finduilas' Thesis: In defense of Lobelia :}
Xseanzee disco: haha
Xseanzee disco: brief synopsis?
FinduilasV: the question came up when we talked about people;s names in Tolkiens books
Eonwe Valar: We were talking about what you can learn from character names, came to Lobelia's, and Finduilas began to play devil's advocate for Lobelia :}
Xseanzee disco: haha, nice. wasnt aware too much could be said on her behalf.
Xseanzee disco: Lobelia => Low Belly? Indication of obesity?
FinduilasV: heh , no spreading out plant ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Only the things she probably told herself to justify her machinations :}
FinduilasV: >lobelia bangs Gil Galad with umbrella on head
Xseanzee disco: >laughes because Lobelia cannot reach.
FinduilasV: /jumps up and down
Eonwe Valar: Careful, we have chairs in here! :}
Eonwe Valar: afk for a sec
FinduilasV: > grabs one
FinduilasV: ((sorry I am silly , folks)) hehe
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
FinduilasV: Aiya Menelvagor :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya Menel
ArPharazonV: you're a bit... late
ArPharazonV: forgot about the time? :-)
FinduilasV: Menel , my friend, you can invite Finduilasse to the Valar guild
Eonwe Valar: back
Eonwe Valar: Heya Menel
Menelvagor Valar: Will do so immediately, Findui :)
Menelvagor Valar: and no, I did not forget the time.
Menelvagor Valar: I had a Stargate RP session this afternoon and a poker tournament tonight.
Eonwe Valar: Stargate eh?
ArPharazonV: I bet you were Teal'c *nod*
Star of Phaet: SG-1 or Atlantis, Menel?
Menelvagor Valar: SG-10 :P
Menelvagor Valar: but yes, not Atlantis :)
ArPharazonV: hehe
Star of Phaet: lol
Star of Phaet: cool
Menelvagor Valar: and basically, we're a random team cooped together without our encoding device (so we can't call Earth it is us who is dialling in)
Menelvagor Valar: and thus we are on our own :)
ArPharazonV: sounds fun
ArPharazonV: so are you based on one planet, or travelling around?
Menelvagor Valar: We still have access to a Gate.
Menelvagor Valar: still can dial home.
ArPharazonV: but they wouldn't let you through?
Menelvagor Valar: but since the Iris won't open to us, we are stuck in the rest of the universe.
ArPharazonV: aha
ArPharazonV: how about the Alpha site?
Menelvagor Valar: and the chances of running into another SG team are minimal.
Menelvagor Valar: SG-10, standard reconnaicance team.
Eonwe Valar: Well, I think I'll check out. Got stuff to take care of for the upcoming week. Take care :}
ArPharazonV: time for bed for me
ArPharazonV: gotta get up in 9 hours, which is an excellent time for sleep :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Get those 9 hours while you can :}
ArPharazonV: hehe
ArPharazonV: allright, saving and sending