Valar Guild

August 20, 2006 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by: 
Menelvagor-(Valar), Eonwe-(Valar), and Varda-(Valar)

Attending (7):
    Members: Bombur-(V)/MrMonkey2002Blah, Eonwe Valar, FinduilasV, FladrifV, Menelvagor Valar, Orodreth V
    Visitors: Srekal86

Meeting begins
    We've been through themes in LotR. What themes are prevalent in the Silmarillion?
     The new Valar Guild branch in Europe has begun: charter made with Finduilas and Fladrif as members.

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
FladrifV has entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya
Menelvagor Valar: heya
Menelvagor Valar: sorry, trying to lead an MC PuG :P
Eonwe Valar: gl with that.
Menelvagor Valar: well, we're doing moderately well :P
Menelvagor Valar: we keep clearing the first trash mobs over and over :P
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Well, looks like about meeting time and no one's here yet.
Eonwe Valar: Do you two see any guild guys on your buddy lists not here besides Thorondor and Orodreth?
Srekal86 has entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar: that's the best of it.
Eonwe Valar: Heya
Srekal86: 'lo
Menelvagor Valar: lol
Menelvagor Valar: no wonder none of us could release :)
Menelvagor Valar: Argent Dawn crashed/
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Maybe the server thinks you should focus on AIM :}
Menelvagor Valar: I guess I can do some TKP updates then :)
Eonwe Valar: Well, I guess this is going to be a quick meeting :}
Srekal86: where is everybody?
Eonwe Valar: Varda is busy in the outside world, Pharazon is out.
Eonwe Valar: Can't comment on anyone else.
Menelvagor Valar: Finduilas said she was helping a friend.
Menelvagor Valar: but thought that was on AD.
Menelvagor Valar: I guess we can keep this meeting rather short then, right?
Eonwe Valar: Pretty much.
Eonwe Valar: Unless you have some Valar GUild news that'll take a while to share, Menel :}
Menelvagor Valar: unless you want a full report on my efforts on AD, nope.
MrMonkey2002Blah has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Not really :}
MrMonkey2002Blah: Hail.
Eonwe Valar: Heya BOmbur :}
Eonwe Valar: Guess that does it for everyone who should have an invitation and don't.
Eonwe Valar: Whisper Tolkien topics now, because the meeting is going to go fast :}
Eonwe Valar: OK

Eonwe Valar: Elenn Sila Lumenn Omentielvo! :}
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: Varda's out taking care of some stuff in the real world, and helping Elwing celebrate her recent birthday :}
Eonwe Valar: Pharazon is on vacation for the next couple of week,s out of reach of a computer.
Eonwe Valar: University begins for me in two weeks, so fun fun for me coming up :}
FinduilasV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya Finduilas :}
Eonwe Valar: Just finished the membership report :}
FinduilasV: phew , aiya there , got to add something
Eonwe Valar: In membership?
FinduilasV: yes
Eonwe Valar: Go ahead :}
FinduilasV: The house we are living in has been up for sale since a few months and it seems the sale is near, but the seller is not certain he will accept
FinduilasV: Bruce wants to move however, so looks like we move back to Portree beginning of next month
Eonwe Valar: Is that far from where you're living now?
FinduilasV: no not really, just six miles, but its a lot of stuff
FinduilasV: and we moved only a few months ago
Eonwe Valar: Ah, well I hope you have a safe and speedy move, and a quick getting everything back into a semblance of order.
FinduilasV: Thanks, i m not sure whats gonna happen but that was the latest developments however ;-) I am sure it will work out somehow
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Thanks for keeping us informed :}
FinduilasV: np "}

Eonwe Valar: Web news:
Srekal86: any progress on getting the encyclopedia converted to a dynamic engine?
Eonwe Valar: As far as I know Varda's still ordering the Encyclopedia in a more convenient fashion.
Srekal86: well, convenient still isn't dynamic ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Well I'll leave the Encyclopedia design to Varda :}
Eonwe Valar: Games Page:In case you haven't seen them, the Sortable tables for WoW Lothar and now Uldaman are still on the Games Page in the main navigation frame (left frame).
Eonwe Valar: You can sort them by any column, and they should all work perfectly now. And since I've said "perfectly," there's bound to be a bug that crops up :}
Menelvagor Valar: well, the main page says it's always under construction, so that should eliminate all bug complaints.
Eonwe Valar: I've also set the Games Page so you can toggle between the plain version and the backgrounded 1280x1024 version by clicking on the page title.
Eonwe Valar: Those who read that notice at the top of the main index would note that :}
Eonwe Valar: In the chance you do find something that doesn't quite look right in those tables, let me know.
Srekal86 has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: And, as always, make sure your info on the Games Page is correct while you're there :}
FinduilasV: /me chuckles

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Thror's joined us in WoW thanks to his brand new computer :}
Eonwe Valar: Both on Lothar and Uldaman. Already got 3 chars in each place :}
Eonwe Valar: Guild Questing:
Eonwe Valar: This week, Varda, Eonw�, Fangorn, and Merry went to hunt down the materials for the Love Potion quest in BRD.
Eonwe Valar: Varda, Merry, and Eonw� took a trip into Azshara for the mountain giant veins.
Eonwe Valar: Accomplishing that, Eonw� switched to his priest Kalasul to gather the Gromsblood in Desolace.
Eonwe Valar: Fangorn joined us at this point. Once done there, we went to Un'goro to fill the vial, grabbing the Tanaris, Un'Goro, and Silithus flight paths for Kalasul in the process.
Eonwe Valar: Then Varda, Fangorn, and Eonw� took a quick trip to Uldaman so Varda could learn more enchanting stuff from the Enchanter there.
Eonwe Valar: Other WoW news:
Eonwe Valar: Lots of write-ups on the WoW expansion linked from the WoW community site.
Eonwe Valar: Interesting stuff in there, including raids being limited to 25 people.
Menelvagor Valar: what? :(
Eonwe Valar: Very interesting that, considering LotRO had announced their caps at 24 not long ago.
Eonwe Valar: Blizzard realized with 40 men some players became cogs in the machine :} That's a paraphrase of one of the CMs btw :}
Menelvagor Valar: in raids all players are cogs :(
Eonwe Valar: Also something about a Paladin taunt, but we'll see :}
Menelvagor Valar: without one, the machine might fail.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, I'll rephrase it this way:
Eonwe Valar: Blizzard didn't want 26th-40th wheels :}
Menelvagor Valar: hehe :)
Menelvagor Valar: well, they had better downgrade the difficulty level of places like MC then.
Eonwe Valar: WIth fewer people, supposedly hybrids will get to really show their stuff.
Eonwe Valar: No, the current 40-mans will stay.
Eonwe Valar: but no new ones in the visible horizon.
Menelvagor Valar: okay.
Menelvagor Valar: just too bad the new ones will accomplish exactly the opposite.
Menelvagor Valar: with 25 people, a druid needs to heal.
Menelvagor Valar: small room for a feral druid to go Cat for damage, or even tank.
Eonwe Valar: With 40, they still make him heal.
Menelvagor Valar: on the tougher bosses, yes.
Eonwe Valar: With 40, they make Paladins heal, and they don't have to change shapes to do all they do.
Menelvagor Valar: with 20, Paladins are on full-time healing duty.
Eonwe Valar: We'll see how it works out.
Menelvagor Valar: a retribution Paladin even heals in a 5-man dungeon.
Eonwe Valar: I've done that, and I've tanked in a 5-man dungeon, as a Retribution Paladin.
Menelvagor Valar: either is possible, yes.
Eonwe Valar: And with another Paladin, we traded healing back and forth.
Menelvagor Valar: but places like Zul'Gurub will need a Paladin on healing.
Menelvagor Valar: no room for a Paladin tanking there, except in emergencies.
Menelvagor Valar: and even then, a damage specced warrior takes priority.
Eonwe Valar: We'll see what becomes of this.
Menelvagor Valar: better aggro control.
Menelvagor Valar: the taunt on paladins might help though.
Eonwe Valar: Supposedly with Shamans on the Alliance and Paladins on the Horde, they can tune them more to what they were meant to be in the Expansion.
Menelvagor Valar: but as far as I can see, it will change little.
Menelvagor Valar: even with shammies
Eonwe Valar: And here I thought this was going to be a quick meeting :}
Menelvagor Valar: and you had to bring up expansion notes :P
Eonwe Valar: It's news :}
Menelvagor Valar: it's news I have a close interest in, and you know it :)
Eonwe Valar: We'll see what comes with the Burning Crusade :}
Eonwe Valar: As do I, and we seem to be on opposite sides of the debate :}
Eonwe Valar: On with the show! :}
Menelvagor Valar: well, I'm looking from the raid point of view.
Eonwe Valar: I am too. 25 people is easier to deal with than 40 people, and it gives a chance for smaller groups to get in on raiding as well.
Menelvagor Valar: but still, I agree with you that it should be as you say.
Eonwe Valar: Without selling their souls.
Menelvagor Valar: I managed 30 fine enough in MC.
Menelvagor Valar: I was spamming the Raid Warning though :P
Eonwe Valar: Hehe
Eonwe Valar: Ok, LotRO news now :}
Eonwe Valar: New place of interest: The Forsaken inn :}
Eonwe Valar: New Dev Diary on Crafting: Gandalf vs. Voltron :}
Eonwe Valar: Links to both can be found in the Games Page news :}
Eonwe Valar: The Dev diary is particularly interesting.
Eonwe Valar: Also, some people have been playing LotRO already, and you can see what they think of it so far by going to the LotRO site.
Eonwe Valar: Easy enough to get to from the Gandlf vs. Voltron link :}
Eonwe Valar: Also, Orodreth is trying to revive the Elvondel world he was creating for Well of Souls. If you're interested check out the Well of Souls section in the forum.
Eonwe Valar: Any final business before we move to Tolkien?
(Eonwe crashes out of AIM. Fortunately Menelvagor is also handling transcript duties.)
FladrifV: *lifts a branch*
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
FinduilasV: wow, ye shouldnt have chucked him out Fladrif
FladrifV: sorry Eonwe
Menelvagor Valar: I'm guessing AIM troubles.
(The Return of Eonwe.)
You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
Menelvagor Valar: welcome back.
FinduilasV: Aiyata@
FladrifV: sorry for hitting you Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
Eonwe Valar: It was my internet connection. Apparently I've been on for the last 8 hours :}

Eonwe Valar: Ok, Tolkien time :}
Eonwe Valar: We've been through themes in LotR. What themes are prevalent in the Silmarillion?
Eonwe Valar: None?
Eonwe Valar: Or is everyone doing something else on the other side of those keyboards?
Eonwe Valar: Death?Love?Hope?Redemption?Rage?Jealously?Hopelessness?Hatred?Despair?
Menelvagor Valar: doing something else. :P
Eonwe Valar: Well then let's call it a meeting.
Eonwe Valar: *Bangs Gavel*

FladrifV: setting up a european guild...
FinduilasV: err *blushes
Eonwe Valar: At 5:04 pm my time. earliest gavel banging in a while. (6:04pm EST)
Eonwe Valar: A branch of the Valar Guild needs at least a Maia as Guildmaster since we require a test over LotR to be a member of the Valar Guild.
Eonwe Valar: I believe last week we had the count at around 7 full members in the European servers, not all of whom have been seen by our other guys there recently.
FinduilasV: we will see who we can catch, they might not necessarily use tolkien related names
Eonwe Valar: Guage the interest first. Let's see which of our members over there would be up for a guild branch there.
Eonwe Valar: Gauge even.
FinduilasV: ok will do
Eonwe Valar: Menel seems to be our only Maia honor in the area.
FinduilasV: we will see what we can do, Fladrif is in with me
Eonwe Valar: Good luck.
FinduilasV: ok boys and girls, gotta go maybe get aiyata off the stonetalon mountains after trying to catch a few defias in Moonbrok
FinduilasV: she got cought in a fight with some of thy nice gryphonbats up there when the server broke down
Eonwe Valar: One sec Finduilas.
Eonwe Valar: COuld you check your info on the Games Page real quick, make sure I've got it correct?
Eonwe Valar: Just updated it, thought I'd get you to go over it while you're still here.
FinduilasV: ok
Eonwe Valar: Btw, The Games Selection menu is now alphebetical, if I didn't mention it last week.
Eonwe Valar: *alphabetical
FinduilasV: Narimia and Silky are superfluous
FinduilasV: but the others are correct
Eonwe Valar: So toss those two or keep them?
FinduilasV: you can take those two off they were the hunter and her pet
Eonwe Valar: You had me list a pet as a character? :}
Eonwe Valar: I probably just wasn't paying attention when I read the info.
FinduilasV: not as character you misunderstood that hihi, but it is a caracter as such ;-)
Eonwe Valar: OK, corrected.
Eonwe Valar: Uploading now.
Eonwe Valar: Thanks for keeping your info up-to-date, Finduilas :}
Eonwe Valar: You all have been free to go for a while so escape while you can :}
FinduilasV: thats all right
FinduilasV: farewell and may the light of Varda shine upon your roads
Eonwe Valar: May the stars shine upon your face :}
FinduilasV: And on yours :-)
FinduilasV: Namarie!
Eonwe Valar: Namari� :}
Eonwe Valar: Take care :}
FinduilasV: *waves*
FinduilasV has left the room.
FladrifV: namarie
FladrifV has left the room.
MrMonkey2002Blah has left the room.
Menelvagor Valar: still here Eonwe? 8-)
Eonwe Valar: Aye
Eonwe Valar: Writing a long long e-mail
Menelvagor Valar: hehe :)
Menelvagor Valar: didn't think you'd reply, so I got some work done :P
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Seems Fladrif and Finduilas are really keen on a European Guild Branch.
Eonwe Valar: I can't help but take that as a good thing :}
Eonwe Valar: Well, I think I shall call it here.
Eonwe Valar: Take care, good night, sleep well, and have fun.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
Orodreth V has entered the room.
Orodreth V: Ha.
Orodreth V: I made it to the meeting!
Menelvagor Valar: hah, I'm still here :P