Valar Guild

December 18, 2005 Meeting

5pm ESDT (GMT -5)

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Bridging program by Farmer Maggot-(V)
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Transcript work by: Ar-Pharazon-(Valar)
and Varda-(Valar)

Attending list and who belongs to that odd AIM name anyway?  :)  ()
    ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar (presiding), GwaihirValar, FarmerMaggot-(V), Menelvagor Valar, Scatha/STEvilaim, Ugluk of Old

Meeting Begins
    Elwing, Eowyn, and Varda are at the movies
    Eonwe is done with Finals
    Scatha is back
       Stories by Jay of Lasgalen
    WoW Christmas Questing
       WoW Lothar
       WoW Europe
    Gateway FPD2185w LCD   For users of this, Scatha tells a fix.
    Eonwe's topic: What holidays did the Free Peoples celebrate, and how did they celebrate these?
       Eruhantale (UT), Hobbit birthdays, Yule, Lithe, Overlithe, Ring Day, Frodo's Birthday, Cormare (Frodo's Birthday + Leap Year).

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
Eonwe Valar: We'll give a couple more minutes and then begin.
ArPharazonV: Aiya all
Eonwe Valar: heya
FarmerMaggotV: bleh, I so want to hit technology with a baseball bat
ArPharazonV: technology in general?
FarmerMaggotV: yeah
Eonwe Valar: can you leave "my" technology alone? ;}
FarmerMaggotV: hehe
FarmerMaggotV: why can't this BinaryStream raise an exception when trying to read past the length... like everything else does ><
ArPharazonV: perhaps it's in a bad mood
Eonwe Valar: Are you sure it is reading past the length?
FarmerMaggotV: yeah
FarmerMaggotV: dim b as new BinaryStream( "questing" ) dim s as string = 8 ) dim i as integer = b.readShort() break
FarmerMaggotV: i is 0, but it so should raise an exception ><
Menelvagor Valar: Phar, WoW europe report is yours.
Eonwe Valar: Not sure I can help as far as the coding.
ArPharazonV: it is?
Menelvagor Valar: I'm off to take a shower and then get to bed, tomorrow the beginning of the end will start.
Eonwe Valar: OK guys, time to begin the meeting.
GwaihirValar: hello
ArPharazonV: the beginning of the end?
ArPharazonV: exam week?
Eonwe Valar: Get plenty of rest Menel :}
ArPharazonV: g'night Menel
Ugluk of Old: namarie
Eonwe Valar: er, one sec before we begin: grabbing roll :}
Menelvagor Valar: not gone yet people, shower first.
Eonwe Valar: ok, let's begin!

Eonwe Valar: Elenn Sila Lumenn Omentielvo.
Eonwe Valar: Membership News:
Eonwe Valar: Varda, Elwing, and Eowyn are off seeing Chronicles of Narnia.
Ugluk of Old: good for time :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Menelvagor Valar: gah!
Menelvagor Valar: and I still have to wait a week before it gets in cinemas here!
Menelvagor Valar: meanies!
Ugluk of Old: It's not too bad a movie either :-)
Eonwe Valar: Also, Varda informs me she and her family have a new WoW account.
Menelvagor Valar: pft, if the previews give me cold shivers of anticipation, not too bad would be a massive understatement :-)
Eonwe Valar: Which means more chars for them :}
Menelvagor Valar: do they have the comp to accompany that account? :-)
Eonwe Valar: She also has a computer in the process of construction :}
Menelvagor Valar: w00t
Menelvagor Valar: gratz them for me.
Eonwe Valar: So that'll be two of them at a time :}
Menelvagor Valar: and now: shower!
ArPharazonV: so now they'll be online.. 48 hours a day? in total :-)
Ugluk of Old: neat!
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Menelvagor Valar: be back in like 30-60 mins or so.
Eonwe Valar: Other Member News: I'm done with finals :}
Ugluk of Old: congrats!
ArPharazonV: congrats!
Eonwe Valar: That means I hope to have time for stuff now :}
Eonwe Valar: thanks :}
ArPharazonV: neh, now you need to get a job :-)
Eonwe Valar: Gotta go back next semester, but at least I'm done for this one :}
ArPharazonV: ah, ok
STEvilaim has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Not quite done with my degree, Phar :}
STEvilaim: ooh, been a while since last chat
ArPharazonV: first there's college, then there's a job, and then there's the breaking down of life after you retire... free time is a myth
Eonwe Valar: heya :} We've been here every week :}
Ugluk of Old: yea really Phar :}
STEvilaim: i've been working a lot... up at 6:30am pass out around 8pm to 2am since about july... yuck :/
Eonwe Valar: Any other Member news, besides Menel is having finals this week? :}
Ugluk of Old: a moment here and there...that's about it :}
ArPharazonV: nobody ever got old enough to do just those things he/she wanted...
Ugluk of Old: too true
ArPharazonV: it makes me sad
ArPharazonV: is there nothing more to life than be exactly like any other person on this world? to do boring things all day preparing for a time that never comes? to await the release of death at which point it will be like you never existed?
Eonwe Valar: No more membership news?
ArPharazonV: neh, not from me
Eonwe Valar: Let's not wax philosophical during the business please :}
Ugluk of Old: gesh...pretty morbid there :-)
Eonwe Valar: Besides Phar, it's the journey, not the destination. You make time for the things important to you.
Eonwe Valar: Time doesn't make itself.
ArPharazonV: I've been thinking about it a lot... whether I should just release my dreams and step in the boredom that is reality... or that I should just keep up a charade that I like what I'm doing and hope for better times
Eonwe Valar: Btw, for those who may not recognize him, STEvilaim is Scatha :}
ArPharazonV: but let's put it out of our minds for tonight
ArPharazonV: get on with the meeting!
STEvilaim: scatha the absent ;-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: He's here, so that's membership news :}

Eonwe Valar: Web News:
Eonwe Valar: Gaming stuff getting some updates this week.
Eonwe Valar: Encyclopedia:
Eonwe Valar: New stories up from Jay of Lasgalen:
STEvilaim: i've got something that may qualify for news: i'm doing front page news/reviews for from time to time... dunno where that fits in, but yeah..
Eonwe Valar: Sounds like membership news :} Good to know you've been keeping yourself busy :}
Eonwe Valar: New stories up from Jay of Lasgalen:
Eonwe Valar: Of Balrogs and Battles: 2 chapters. Elladan, Elrohir. "A two-part story. The twins, aged nine, discover a fascinating book about Gondolin in Elrond's library."
Eonwe Valar: A King's Promise: 1 chapter. Young Legolas, Thranduil. "Thranduil receives an unexpected letter of great importance."
Eonwe Valar: Telparian: 8 chapters. Young Legolas, Thranduil. "A grieving father and son."
Eonwe Valar: A Journey of Discovery: 7 chapters. Elladan, Elrohir, Celebrian, Elrond. "Elladan and Elrohir take their first long journey outside the borders of Imladris, and Elrohir makes a startling discovery about himself."
Eonwe Valar: Should be interesting reading.
Eonwe Valar: Check out the links on the News Page, or you can find them through the Stories Page.
Eonwe Valar: If you have Tolkien-themed stories you'd like to share, talk to Varda, who maintains the Stories page :}
Eonwe Valar: Ah, seems Hay of Lasgalen has a few more up on our Stoires page:
Eonwe Valar: *Hay = Jay
Eonwe Valar: "Old Man Willow" "Alas for the Wailing of the Gulls" and "Two by Two"
Eonwe Valar: Any other Web news?
Eonwe Valar: going once
Eonwe Valar: going twice

Eonwe Valar: Gaming News:
Eonwe Valar: The Winter Veil quests for World of Warcraft are now active, so get out there and give them a try! :}
Eonwe Valar: The ones in Ironforge aren't too difficult.
Eonwe Valar: the highest one being a trip to Searing Gorge.
Eonwe Valar: I haven't checked the other capitals for other Christmas quests yet, so give those places a look too.
Eonwe Valar: WoW Lothar :
Eonwe Valar: Arathorn, Arwen, Beline, and I got together for some of these Christmas quests.
Eonwe Valar: We dealt with the Greench :}
Eonwe Valar: we also rescued one of Greatfather Winter's Reindeer, Metzen :}
Eonwe Valar: For those who don't recognize the name, he's an important guy over at Blizzard :}
STEvilaim: .. you're making me want to get WoW now... ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Check out the Metzen the Reindeer quest in Ironforge near the bank :}
Eonwe Valar: good, you can join us on Lothar :}
Eonwe Valar: How are the guild guys on the European servers doing?
Eonwe Valar: Phar?
ArPharazonV: hmm?
ArPharazonV: oh, sorry, was in PM with Ugluk
Eonwe Valar: That's your cue :}
ArPharazonV: ehrrr... allrighty then
ArPharazonV: not much contact with other valarmembers the last week, we all seem to be doing other things again
ArPharazonV: I'm still farming for my epic ram, will take a few months
ArPharazonV: brb, I'll go on in a few moments, just made msn contact with my brother in England
Eonwe Valar: good luck on that :}
Eonwe Valar: we'll move on then and let you come back to it.
Eonwe Valar: Battlenet ladder season 3 has ended.
Eonwe Valar: Winners were announced December 13th
Eonwe Valar: The winners of the Valar Guild's ladder seem to be between Thorondor, Finarfin, and Arathorn.
Eonwe Valar: Varda will announce the results when known.
Eonwe Valar: Any other Gaming News?
Eonwe Valar: Anyone play any games besides WoW?
STEvilaim: crashday is almost ready for release for those who like racing games
Eonwe Valar: care to tell a little about that, Scatha?
STEvilaim: let me dig it up, one sec
STEvilaim: pics and movies there.. the game is basically a cross between Trackmania Sunrise/Extreme and Carmageddon.. if you have played FlatOut then you should like it
Eonwe Valar: is it for console or computer? offline or online?
STEvilaim: computer only as far as I know, both offline and on
Eonwe Valar: so guild members who like racing might find this a chance to race against other members?
STEvilaim: yup
Eonwe Valar: Ok, racing fans, there you go :}
STEvilaim: another good game to try if you havent is Flatout... there have been some recent 3rd party add-ons that improve multiplayer aspects of it and give added cars/tracks
FarmerMaggotV: yeah, Flatout is fun
STEvilaim: all flatout mods available at
FarmerMaggotV: going off topic, is Carmageddon 3 out yet?
STEvilaim: no
FarmerMaggotV: darn
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
STEvilaim: wait, maybe it is..
Eonwe Valar: Send Tolkien topics to me as well, or you'll get mine :}
STEvilaim: oh, C3 is just TDR2000
STEvilaim: its been out for ~5 years now
FarmerMaggotV: hm, isn't there a new one?
STEvilaim: this is Carmageddon 4:
FarmerMaggotV: ah
Eonwe Valar: Here's another piece of Gaming News:
Eonwe Valar: LotRO (Lord of the Rings Online for those who don't know)
Eonwe Valar: Turbine has put up their quarterly calendar wallpapers.
Eonwe Valar: i.e. scenes from LotRO with months on them :}
Eonwe Valar: Might want to check them out. There's some nice screenshots there.
Eonwe Valar: There's also been an update to the playable classes information.
Eonwe Valar: The Champion now lists what races can choose that class
Eonwe Valar: There's also an image of what a human Champion "might" look like.
Eonwe Valar: And the Races are : *drumroll*
Eonwe Valar: Man, Elf, and Dwarf :}
STEvilaim: darn, no dragons :D
Menelvagor Valar: WoW europe gone yet?
Eonwe Valar: Phar was in the middle, had to turn his attention elsewhere.
Eonwe Valar: Would you like to pick it up?
Menelvagor Valar: well, all I know is that our guilds managed to down Raggy twice the last 2 weeks.
Eonwe Valar: congrats :}
Menelvagor Valar: thanks, but I wasn't there.
Menelvagor Valar: I've been concentrating on my studies in that time.
Menelvagor Valar: which is why I know no more :-\
ArPharazonV: ok, back
Eonwe Valar: wb :}
Eonwe Valar: Phar came give details then :}
Eonwe Valar: *came = can
ArPharazonV: I was there for Raggy on Friday, but we got to 1%... the rest of the guild killed him on Saturday when I wasn't there ;-)
Eonwe Valar: ah, so only killed him once :}
Menelvagor Valar: oh, the Raggy kill movie will go up in a day or two approx.
ArPharazonV: yes, this week
ArPharazonV: last week they killed him also
Eonwe Valar: Ah
ArPharazonV: I wasn't there... christmas ball at the dancing school :-)
ArPharazonV: was great fun!
Eonwe Valar: hehe
ArPharazonV: let's see... got my paladin to lvl 25
ArPharazonV: working on the background for my warlock during silences in this meeting..
Menelvagor Valar: btw, Phar... farming for your epic Ram?
ArPharazonV: aye
ArPharazonV: I need runecloth and lots and lots o gold
Menelvagor Valar: that meaning you're donating whatever you can find to Ironforge, so you get your status up to revered?
ArPharazonV: nope, to exalted
Menelvagor Valar: exalted, right.
ArPharazonV: I'm already over 5000 into revered :-)
Eonwe Valar: I'm still working on my Epic Paladin mount, so I know what you're going through :}
Menelvagor Valar: that's still about 15.000 runecloth to go or so.
ArPharazonV: 6300
ArPharazonV: so it's not that bad :-)
ArPharazonV: I often buy it out cheap from guildmembers or rsa-members, and otherwise from the AH for 2g a stack...
ArPharazonV: so it's basically about getting 800 gold from farming
ArPharazonV: and then another 800 or 900 for the li'l critter itself..
Menelvagor Valar: plus 900 for the mount :-)
ArPharazonV: yup
ArPharazonV: depends if I can get a dwarven officer to buy it for me :-)
ArPharazonV: so anyway, the plan's laid out, now I just need to fulfill it ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: how's that?
Eonwe Valar: To make sure it's clear, the guild Phar is referring to is not an official Guild branch, as we don't have on on the European servers, but it's a group some of the European Valar Guild guys have joiend to try and play together.
ArPharazonV: aye
Menelvagor Valar: more or less anyways :-)
ArPharazonV: we're known as the High Guard, on Argent Dawn
Menelvagor Valar: The High Guard, Phar.
ArPharazonV: yeah, ok
ArPharazonV: THG
ArPharazonV: is our forum for those interested!
GwaihirValar: I don't believe I mentioned this... but the guild I'm on Shattered Hand with recently downed Nefarion for the first time
Menelvagor Valar: spiritually, it's still m� guild 8-)
ArPharazonV: you wish, Menel :-)
ArPharazonV: you're all but forgotten ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: oh, ask Kissowa and Gibgow.
ArPharazonV: yes, among a few, perhaps
Menelvagor Valar: not in a million years will I be forgotten by those who remember me fondly.
Eonwe Valar: ok, let's keep the politics of outside groups outside.
Menelvagor Valar: good idea.
Menelvagor Valar: off to shave.
GwaihirValar: we were the fourth guild on the server, alliance side, to do so... and our server was the first server to have a nefarian kill :-)
ArPharazonV: yup
Eonwe Valar: We need to focus on what the Valar Guild does and how we can down Nefarion :}
GwaihirValar: hehe
ArPharazonV: btw, I discovered a wow webcomic which I found funny... you probably already know it, but here it is
ArPharazonV: about flintlocke the warrior who acts like a hunter
Eonwe Valar: Having everyone on one server would be a great start, but hard on the European guys :}
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
STEvilaim: anyone play GuildWars?
ArPharazonV: anyway, downed raggy, got my Cenarion Spaulders (which makes me the first druid in the raidalliance with the 5-piece bonus)
Eonwe Valar: congrats Phar
ArPharazonV: and since I'm the only druid in the alliance without the stormrage cover, and I'll finally be around for 2 onyxia-raids, here's to hoping ;-)
ArPharazonV: but yes, that's about it
Eonwe Valar: congrats :}
Eonwe Valar: We have a couple who play Guild Wars, Scatha, and they're always looking for more. Might try the Games Page to see who as I don't reemember who right now :}
STEvilaim: i'll have to do that
STEvilaim: thx
Eonwe Valar: mp :}
Eonwe Valar: I maintain the Games Page, so send in your Gaming info to be listed if it's not up there.
Eonwe Valar: Nothing from before October 2005 is up there.
Eonwe Valar: so if you didn't respond to the Update mail, you don't have anything listed. That goes for everyone here and everyone not here.
STEvilaim: my old email address probably needs an update ;-)
Eonwe Valar: please update then :}
STEvilaim: steviltoo(AT) OR stevil(AT)
Eonwe Valar: Varda's working on the Activity sweep, so by showing up you saved yourself for another year :}
STEvilaim: sweet lol
Eonwe Valar: well, until the next Activity Sweep at least :}
STEvilaim: yeah..
Eonwe Valar: Might want to e-mail those e-mails to Varda.
STEvilaim: hopefully i'll be a bit more active by then.. work really drags on you when its 6-7 days a week and 10-18 hours per day,..
STEvilaim: yeah
Eonwe Valar: good luck on that :}
Menelvagor Valar: ok time to hit the sack.
Eonwe Valar: sleep well Menel :}
Menelvagor Valar: thanks.
ArPharazonV: Namarie
Menelvagor Valar: let the end of the beginning to the end start now
Menelvagor Valar: or something.

Eonwe Valar: ok, Tolkien time :} Everyone still awake Frodo Lives :}
Menelvagor Valar: really?
Eonwe Valar: *Everyone still awake say Frodo Lives
Menelvagor Valar: are you sure about that Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar: But sure, we can discuss that too :}
Menelvagor Valar: Frodo died.
Eonwe Valar: Yes, he does live Menel :}
Menelvagor Valar: Frodo died.
Eonwe Valar: Are you sure?
ArPharazonV: Frodo Lives?
Menelvagor Valar: nope, but I guess that's my way of saying I'm not supposed to be awake :-P
STEvilaim: oh, how about hardware news? I have some for anyone who uses a Gateway FPD2185w LCD (probably not many)
Menelvagor Valar: ok, too technical, I'm off
Menelvagor Valar: Namarie O:-)
STEvilaim: heh
Eonwe Valar: sleep well :}
STEvilaim: night
Eonwe Valar: Since I dare say we all use computers, go ahead and share Scatha :}
Menelvagor Valar: don't worry, not because of the technical stuff, just because I need the sleep.
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
STEvilaim: the FPD2185w has been shown to have banding issues if you run with a VGA or DVI-D connection at 60hz at its native resolution (1680x1050). The fix to this..
STEvilaim: is to modify your resolution profiles and make a 75hz @ 1680x1050 setting.. fixes it all up.
STEvilaim: darn 232 character length
STEvilaim: VGA wont go above 60hz well though, so be warned..
STEvilaim: ps: I love this LCD ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Thanks for the warning. Be warned Gateway users :}
Eonwe Valar: OK, Tolkien Time :}
Eonwe Valar: Tonight's Discussion is a simple one. What holidays did the Free Peoples celebrate, and how did they celebrate these?
Eonwe Valar: For example, the Numenoreans observed Eruhantal�, a thanksgiving to Eru.
ArPharazonV: *flips open appendix... d, I think?*
Eonwe Valar: As part of this celebration, they went up the the highest peak in Numenor, the Meneltarma, and offered the fruits of the land to Eru.
Ugluk of Old: Namarie
Ugluk of Old has left the room.
ArPharazonV: there, conversation with brother over, conversation with Ugluk over... ok, topic! holidays, eh?
ArPharazonV: there were 3 celebrations in Numenor concerning Eru and the Meneltarma, no?
Eonwe Valar: Did the Numenoreans in exile (the Kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor) keep this holiday as well?
ArPharazonV: not just the one you mentioned
Eonwe Valar: trying to find a good description of Eruhantale in my SIl, but it's being difficult.
ArPharazonV: try UT?
Eonwe Valar: There appears to be more than just one though, aye.
ArPharazonV: "There no tool or weapon had ever been borne; and there none might speak any word, save the King only.
Eonwe Valar: Here we go, it is in UT
Eonwe Valar: It's the Autumn feast.
ArPharazonV: Thrice only in each year the King spoke, offering prayer for the coming year at the Erukyerm� in the first days of spring,
Eonwe Valar: Aye, Phar
ArPharazonV: praise of Eru Iluvatar at the Erulaital� in midsummer, and thanksgiving to him at the Eruhantal� at the end of autumn.
ArPharazonV: At these times the King ascended the mountain on foot followed by a great concourse of the people, clad in white and garlanded, but silent."
ArPharazonV: the rest of the information is found spread out throughout the tale of Aldarion and Erendis, I guess
ArPharazonV: Aldarion.. heh... I named my wow warrior after him
ArPharazonV: Caldarion :-)
Eonwe Valar: Just flipped through, that's the more info that's given in UT.
Eonwe Valar: *more = most
Eonwe Valar: Anyone else care to weigh in on this? Any examples of holidays in LotR?
Eonwe Valar: Phar and I could go on for a while, but it's more interesting when more people are involved :}
STEvilaim: hmm.. dont recall any off the top of my head... been forever since I read the books
Eonwe Valar: The Hobbits seemed to make big deals of birthdays. Almost every day someone was having one.
ArPharazonV: aye, and I recall there being yearly holidays in the Shire as well
ArPharazonV: mostly revolving around the days with no weekdays :-)
Eonwe Valar: aye
Eonwe Valar: Yule
Eonwe Valar: for example
Eonwe Valar: Hobbits loved their holidays :}
ArPharazonV: Yule and Lithe
Eonwe Valar: Pull out the books if you have them with you, Scatha :}
Eonwe Valar: Flipping through is just as good as knowing it by heart :}
ArPharazonV: and Overlithe :-)
Eonwe Valar: When it comes to discussion. Need I remind everyone that for Tolkien Chat, you are not required to have this stuff memorized?
STEvilaim: dont have them on hand
ArPharazonV: "The Overlithe was a day of special holiday, but it did not occur in any of the years important to the history of the Great Ring.
STEvilaim: just have some douglas adams with me... ;-)
Eonwe Valar: All it takes is a willingness to pull out your books and use them to contribute. Phar is not quoting off the top of his head, and neither am I :}
ArPharazonV: It occurred in 1420, the year of the famous harvest and wonderful summer, and the merrymaking in that year is said to have been the greatest in memory or record."
ArPharazonV: blasphemy! of course I have all the books memorized! what do you think?
ArPharazonV: :-D
ArPharazonV: of course, it helps that RotK and UT are lying right here besides the monitor ;-)
Eonwe Valar: I think the greater blashemy is to say *I* don't have them memorized :}
Eonwe Valar: *blasphemy :}
STEvilaim: blasphemer!
Eonwe Valar: The encyclopedia might have some info you can check on Holidays so you can follow the chat, Scatha.
ArPharazonV: I've also started this week on the re-reading of Lost Tales part 2... really interesting, the first version of Tinuviel
STEvilaim: true
Eonwe Valar: not positive on that, but we have alot in there, despite needing alot more.
Eonwe Valar: Again, all it takes to contribute to the Encyclopedia is the willingness to open the books and do research :}
ArPharazonV: if I ever tame a cat with my hunter in WoW, I'm naming him Tevildo... heh
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Varda has a bird named Landroval :}
ArPharazonV: and I've already decided I'm getting a wolf called Helvy ;-)
Eonwe Valar: figured you would :}
Eonwe Valar: ok, so what important days did other races besides Hobbits celebrate?
ArPharazonV: while my main is named Calaron, my hunter is a female elf called Caliona... so it's pretty close to Calion to have a Helvy fitting in the picture
Eonwe Valar: The Elves had 6 seasons per year.
Eonwe Valar: Let's not forget Ring Day!
Eonwe Valar: The day the Ring was destroyed was certainly a celebrated day on the calendar of Gondor and Arnor in the Fourth Age.
ArPharazonV: of course, for Gondor it was the first day of the year..
STEvilaim: every time gandalf shows up at the shire there seemed to be a party of some type happening..
ArPharazonV: with our without the destruction of the Ring, newyears always makes a holiday-ish impression :-)
ArPharazonV: *with or without
Eonwe Valar: hehe
STEvilaim: did the elves ever party? I seem to remember something, but its hazy..
ArPharazonV: in Rivendell it was an on-going party, it almost seems...
Eonwe Valar: The Elves of Mirkwood were celebrating something it would seem when they captured the Dwarves.
ArPharazonV: what was it again Bilbo said? whether you like singing, dancing, lore, resting... w/e?
Eonwe Valar: Rivendell was a haven, a place for healing, recuperation, and reflection.
Eonwe Valar: Sounsd about right Phar.
Eonwe Valar: Sounds even
Eonwe Valar: The men of the Reunited Kingdom also celebrated Frodo's birthday.
ArPharazonV: they did?
Eonwe Valar: Yavanni� 30, that corresponded with Sept 22 in the old style, was a holiday, made so because that was Frodo's birthday
Eonwe Valar: Getting this from Appendix D in RotK.
ArPharazonV: heh
Eonwe Valar: Sept 22 is Ring Day btw
Eonwe Valar: in Leap years the feast held this day was doubled.
Eonwe Valar: so it became a 2-day feast
Eonwe Valar: Cormare
Eonwe Valar: ok, I guess that's it for this chat
Eonwe Valar: I've gota tree to trim, so I declare Aftermeeting.
ArPharazonV: yup, just checking the information in the appendix.. you're absolutely right ;-)

ArPharazonV: ah, christmas tree?
Eonwe Valar: yep
ArPharazonV: get a fake one, like us!
Eonwe Valar: I got a real one :}
Eonwe Valar: but "trimming the tree" refers to decorating it :}
ArPharazonV: heh
Eonwe Valar: the literal trimming has already been done :}
Eonwe Valar: ok guys, have fun and see you later :}
STEvilaim: cya
ArPharazonV: bye!
Eonwe Valar: Not leaving the channel :}
Eonwe Valar: just going afk :}
ArPharazonV: I'll send a transcript to Varda
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
ArPharazonV: and continue working on my warlock's biography...
ArPharazonV: I'm really going to use her as an outlet for my dark side ;-)
Eonwe Valar: I should probably offer a Tolkien quiz with 1000 WoW gold as the reward. I'd never have to pay at this rate :}
Eonwe Valar: Seeing as Phar, who would stand a good chance of winning, is on the European servers :}
Eonwe Valar: and Menel as well :}
ArPharazonV: hehe
Eonwe Valar: well, maybe Gwaihir :}
ArPharazonV: give me that 1000 gold! I can get my epic mount a lot faster that way :-)
Eonwe Valar: everyone else seems to prefer silence :}
Eonwe Valar: I only have 100, hehe :}
Eonwe Valar: well, Arathorn too :}
Eonwe Valar: so I guess there are a couple I'd maybe to to pay up if I did that :}
Eonwe Valar: *have to pay up
Eonwe Valar: anyway, take care :}
ArPharazonV: agh.... why did I have to make my 3 gnomes brothers and sister... coming to the part where Gnomeregan is invaded for the third time now... getting boring
ArPharazonV: each time is a different viewpoint, but still...
STEvilaim: gotta run, will catch you guys later
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GwaihirValar: sry Eo, I'm quite tired and multi-tasking is very difficult at this state of tiredness: Hence why I'm heading to sleep now ;-)
ArPharazonV: Namarie Gwai
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ArPharazonV: ah well, time to save, I s'pose