Valar Guild

November 28, 2004 Meeting

AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
5pm EST
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Transcript team: Ar-Pharazon, Varda

Meeting begins
  Attending (20 of 127):
    Aerandir/mordacil, Arathorn, Ar-Pharazon, Arwen, Bombur, Ecthelion/suilenroc01, Elros, Eonwe, Finarfin, Gil-galad/Xseanzee disco, Gilraen, Grimbold (after-meeting), Gwaihir, Huan/LiberalHound, Farmer Maggot, Menelvagor, Orodreth, Oropher/MJKeenan123, Tulkas/WrestlTulkas, Varda (presiding)
    Quick AIM
    Mostly said during Before-meeting, some in After-meeting.
     MeO rp in Forum 
     Console gaming, emulators
       Pong, Tetris, Yar's Revenge, Aladdin, Lion King, Sonic, MASH, Mario Brothers 2,
    Discussion of the Vala, Tulkas.
    Mostly gaming talk:. MeO rp, WoW, D2X, EQ, WC3/TFt


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VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
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VardaValar1: Aiya
Musics4Me2: aiya
Eonwe Valar: heya
GilraenV: aiya
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
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ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: All of a sudden people popped in. Neat
Musics4Me2: heh
Eonwe Valar: Just coming in befoire the meeting,.. most of my attention will be on a program I have to get done by tomorrow.
ArPharazonV: Eonwe invited me
Musics4Me2: noticed you popped on Varda, heh
VardaValar1: : )
VardaValar1: Good luck with the program
Eonwe Valar: thanks
ArPharazonV: watching the finals of a show on tv... I'll be back in like 5 or 10 minutes
VardaValar1: I was working on some stuff too. Dropped in here for any before fun going on
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Tulkas is back
GilraenV: I was typing on msn and just kinda ended up here. must've not noticed th einvitation pop up and pressed a key that accepted it. lol
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Any sign of him yet?
VardaValar1: Lucky accident
GilraenV: aye
VardaValar1: He's been playing D2X, but I haven't been around until just now
VardaValar1: Did you want me to run us to Thranduil's hall in the rp without further ado next post?
Musics4Me2: I should be able to play more D2X after Christmas :-D building a new computer that should handle it (unbearable on this 400MHz comp)
VardaValar1: Cool!
VardaValar1: My boys say they want to go into WoW, both Sauron and Bilbo
Musics4Me2: yep, ordered the parts today. Now I'm completely broke :-P
Musics4Me2: ah, I don't like the whole pay per month thing
VardaValar1: It hit the shelves here and we're considering dropping EQ for it
Eonwe Valar: sounds good to me. I really have nothing to post outside of comments on the news I gathered from guards. Can be added later or in my "during" post.
VardaValar1: Didn't seem any more was going to happen and wondered if you guys were waiting on me.
VardaValar1: Your current comp wouldn't handle it anyway, Farmer
Eonwe Valar: The rest of us might be, hehe.
VardaValar1: Do we know which WoW server yet?
VardaValar1: Eonwe, do you have WoW yet?
Musics4Me2: yeah, I looked into the reqs, ouch :-P
Eonwe Valar: Grimbold and I got together on Lothar a couple of nights ago, and Gwihir and Maglor have said they'll make new chars on Lothar.
VardaValar1: Lothar. How was it chosen?
Eonwe Valar: the only hesitance I've heard is from Menelvagor because his friends are on Stormrage.
VardaValar1: ouch
VardaValar1: Problem with us going to Stormrage?
Eonwe Valar: Well, my first factor from trying it out is knowing the lore of Warcraft and who Lothar is :}
VardaValar1: non rp, non pvp?
Eonwe Valar: The population seems to have held around medium each time I've logged on, and the connection is pretty good despite my using modem
Musics4Me2: Anyone know if Fladrif will be coming?
VardaValar1: He's probably working, haven't heard
Musics4Me2: ah, that pesky work thing :-P
VardaValar1: Population will change as people start picking up the game, but sounds hopeful
Eonwe Valar: Well, not really, but Turgon's friends are playing Horde anyway, so don't know how much weight that should have on the server we choose.
VardaValar1: oboy
VardaValar1: He could play both places
VardaValar1: but I hate to see us start out split up
VardaValar1: Aye, we're going Alliance on Lothar
Eonwe Valar: I also figure that the higher population servers will be those with "WC3" names, since it's the newer game,.. in fact as I recall, 4 servers, all with names from WC3, went down because of high traffic
VardaValar1: ouch
Eonwe Valar: Lothar is a name from the WC/WC2 days and might be less populated simply because the peope who came into contact with Warcraft through WC3 wouldn't really know the name.
VardaValar1: You guys posting this info about Lothar and your names on the Forum?
VardaValar1: Might give us a more experienced group to start with then : )
Eonwe Valar: Admittedly that's supposition on my part, but knowing how some kids think, it's a fairly good one :}
Eonwe Valar: Wew've been discussing it on the Forums, aye
VardaValar1: Lothar, wasn't he a good guy super-knight? Sounds fitting
Eonwe Valar: He was the leader of the Alliance armies before he was killed.
Musics4Me2: Only the valiant leadership of Anduin Lothar, Knight errant in the Brotherhood of the Horse and a hero in the war, allowed the survivors of Azeroth to escape from their decimated homeland with their lives.
VardaValar1: Thanks. Sounds very fitting indeed
Musics4Me2: 16:17:00 orodrethv: I'll be backin a little while.16:17:07 orodrethv: Might miss the start of the meeting.
ArPharazonV: well, I'm back, for now
ArPharazonV: have read everything above
VardaValar1: I was reading the WoW posts
ArPharazonV: I'm ok with Lothar... as I don't have many friends, besides you guys, in the US, I don't really care which server we'll be playing
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Gil-galad
ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: You can play on more than one server anyway, surely?
Eonwe Valar: aye
ArPharazonV: and I have already said I would make my next post during your meetings with Thranduil, so I've been waiting for some time already :-)
Eonwe Valar: I even have a NIght Elf Rogue on Alleria Server (Central Time) should you get WoW and decide to try a place close ot home, Varda
Eonwe Valar: Alleria is another WC2 hero :} Female Elf Ranger.
VardaValar1: I would play on the guild server so as not to waste the small amount of playing time
VardaValar1: Cool : )
Eonwe Valar: Aye, understandable :} That's why my Rogue probably won't level very fast :}
ArathornValar: I'll be picking up WoW on Wednesday. er.. where are we thinking of starting? Not sure which char type to choose .. would rather sart in same area
VardaValar1: Night Elf is usually the one that catches my imagination, probably go with it
ArathornValar: *start
VardaValar1: Some already started, using Lothar server
ArathornValar: Yes but WHERE as in environment location.
Eonwe Valar: If you choose Gnome, Dwarf, or Human, it's fairly easy to travel between their lands
ArathornValar: Either Human, Elf or Dwarf...
ArPharazonV: not Gnome?
ArathornValar: yes, but not to do the quests together
Eonwe Valar: I took the Tram with Grimbold to Ironforge and acoompanied him on his quest to get his pet
ArathornValar: gnome/dwarf.. same area
VardaValar1: So elf has a hard time joining up with the others?
ArathornValar: Elf is further away
Eonwe Valar: Elf is on another continent,.. not sure how easy it is to get to Stormwind from Kalimdor
ArathornValar: They like to hide :-D
VardaValar1: :-)
ArPharazonV: I'm not sure I want to share my beginning quests anyway, I'd be much happier soloing my way through the first few levels... it's the harder, more epic quests I want to do with you guys, as well as exploring the world
Eonwe Valar: but it would have to be via gryphon riders
VardaValar1: It's the people I enjoy most in any game, but I solo ok too
Eonwe Valar: np Phar :} I did alot of my stuff solo :}
VardaValar1: Gryphon riding sounds fun
Eonwe Valar: Found it easier on some quests when I wasn't alone though,.. the Japserlode mines can get ugly
Eonwe Valar: *jasperlode
ArathornValar: BTW, we should have suggestions for names. Grimbold and I were having trouble coming up with a decent female name based on his name :-\
VardaValar1: I could run a human too, will see if there is room
Eonwe Valar: and those murlocs,..
VardaValar1: Grimhelm? ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Doesn't necessarily have to be female, even though I know that might be preferred
ArPharazonV: I've had a character Tarcalia in Guildwars...
VardaValar1: Grimhelm like Dernhelm
VardaValar1: Tack a -wen on the end of the name?
VardaValar1: Grimboldwen?
Eonwe Valar: Aye, Grimhelm would probably be a good one,..
ArathornValar: room Varda?
VardaValar1: I have to share my account with the rest of the family
ArathornValar: Well, I suggested Grimbolda but then couldn't stop laughing <snortle!>
VardaValar1: We ran into the room problem on EQ Zebuxoruk
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VardaValar1: Thanks for the guild name, Farmer : )
Farmer Maggot V: yep
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ArathornValar: How strict are the names. I've used Harana in beta (based on my Haran name)
VardaValar1: Grimbolda could work too
Bomburv has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Harana, Haranwen
VardaValar1: Aiya Bombur
Bomburv: howdy
ArathornValar: I'n afraid Grimbolda would have me crying with laughter too much.
VardaValar1: Talking WoW. Think you might get it, Bombur?
Bomburv: Christmas List :)
VardaValar1: Laughing while playing. Sounds good
VardaValar1: It's a game, heh
ArathornValar: what's the cha limit on an account, 8? 6?
Musics4Me2 has entered the room.
Musics4Me2: hm, something died :-P
VardaValar1: I don't have WoW yet. Have to ask these experienced folk
ArathornValar: What about Grimala? like that?
Bomburv: I played the open beta
Bomburv: I liked it alot
GilraenV: there's a differnce between laughing, and laughing so hard you can't see the screen through the tears ;-)
Bomburv: Made a dwarven Hunter
mordacil has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Gives us an advantage
VardaValar1: Aiya Aerandir
ArPharazonV: brb, final votings
GilraenV: Grimola?
Musics4Me2: hm, darn, joined as wrong screenname, brb
VardaValar1: The plan is for us to all go into Lothar server for WoW
ArathornValar: Grimbolda makes me chortle every time Im afraid.. sounds too much like Broomhilda.. the funny cartoon witch
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mordacil: aiya
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GilraenV: Grimbola?
Bomburv: What is Lothar?
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VardaValar1: Lothar is a World of WarCraft server giving us the most freedom and not too heavily traveled
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Bomburv: Is it blizzard sponsored?
Eonwe Valar: With WoW it has to be :}
Bomburv: Ive seen some open servers that blizzard either doesnt know about or hasnt shut down
Eonwe Valar: Any person trying to set up their own WoW server is likely to be slapped with criminal charges
Bomburv: True
VardaValar1: Yes, Blizzard MMORPG
ArathornValar: What agout Grie or Gria.. OR is that too shortened?
Bomburv: Team Python was shut down for developing a server
VardaValar1: Getting unrecognizable. I personally like Grimhelm : )
Bomburv: Im 16 and $15 a month is pushing it
Eonwe Valar: might be too shortened,.. and Grima might be a bad idea as well :}
Bomburv: Have to get a job :(
VardaValar1: Good luck with the job
ArathornValar: yeah, sounds too much like wormtongue
Bomburv: hmm Publix...
VardaValar1: Might get your parents hooked on it. That's how my kids handle such problems ;-)
Bomburv: lol
Farmer Maggot V: heh
Bomburv: My dad is too busy
GilraenV: but then he'd never get near the comp ;-)
Bomburv: 3 comps here :
Bomburv: My mom can't even turn on a Pc lol
Farmer Maggot V: 5 comps here (I think I'll setup another old one soon heh)
Farmer Maggot V: 2 of them my mom's heh
Bomburv: Macs, bah
VardaValar1: It's a nice way to introduce a person to a comp, by game. Cuts the fear factor
GilraenV: lol. we just have one with internet access.
Farmer Maggot V: only 3 macs :-P, I have 2 PCs
Farmer Maggot V: and I'm building one
VardaValar1: Get DSL and all can have internet access
Bomburv: Cable here
VardaValar1: Whatever works : )
Bomburv: set up my own Wifi :)
GilraenV: my parent's don't understand computers enough to be able to grasp that comcept
VardaValar1: Tell them it's a fancy typewriter
GilraenV: my mom's idea of spending time on the computer is to word processsomething as quickly as possible
Bomburv: lol
GilraenV: and my dad's is to play tomb raider or star trek games
VardaValar1: That should be good enough : )
Bomburv: get him hooked on starcraft or something then expand to other blizz games
VardaValar1: Anyone have a Tolkien topic?
GilraenV: (sorry, at my aunt's and using a strange keyboard so my typing is worse than usual)
ArathornValar: Yes nothing like getting chased by giant spiders to cut down the fear factor <runs for cover..>
Bomburv: I recently bought half life 2 and beat it
Bomburv: It was awesome. to put it bluntly
GilraenV: but bombur, then I'd never be able to play my games ^_¬
VardaValar1: *shoots spider with bow*
VardaValar1: Gilraen, that's a problem for my kids too. So we had to get more comps
Aerandir V: i never finished half life it wont work on windows 2000 or later
ArathornValar: Gilraen:need a router and lan cards.. then everyone can use the line.. of course then you'd be crawling on the net but.. <heh>
Bomburv: hl 1?
Bomburv: yes it will
VardaValar1: HL2 I've heard is really good
Bomburv: It is
Aerandir V: well..not on mine for some other reason then
Bomburv: A little short but still worth the money
Bomburv: It also comes with counterstrike source
Bomburv: that will keep u busy
ArathornValar: I'm hoping to get HL2 next month.. was a toss up between it and WoW
Aerandir V: halo 2 is short too. why are sequals so short nowdays?
Bomburv: i got HL2 first then WoW at christmas
VardaValar1: Pressure from the bosses to get the program out now
ArathornValar: HL1 works fine here.. on XP
Bomburv: Same
GilraenV: Arathorn, the pc already crawls on the net. it is, quite frankly, dying and needs replacing. but so long as my parents can use word, they think it's fine and running well *rolls eyes* and so won't replace it
ArathornValar: I even have a server running
Aerandir V: halo 2 was delayed 6 months
Eonwe Valar: It's players' faults,... remember back in the good old days when games had no end? you'd just keep playing, and playing, and playing,.. expecting to reach an end, and finally, after 255 levels, you reached the 256th level :}
Bomburv: Eonwe that seems .... scary
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VardaValar1: Gilraen, if they need to surf, they'll want to fix it. Suggest using it to research
VardaValar1: Aiya Tulkas!!
VardaValar1: Mae govannen!
WrestlTulkas: wow I made it!
Eonwe Valar: Heya Tulkas! Long time no see melko :}
ArathornValar: heh HL2 was delayed almost 2 years
Eonwe Valar: er, meldo :}
Aerandir V: Is it as good as the first?
Bomburv: yeah but that takes nothing away from it
Bomburv: BETTER
ArathornValar: Eonwe: you mean like Pong? Never got to the end of that <snortle!>
Aerandir V: Its on my "games to eventually get" list
Farmer Maggot V: I love pong.....
Farmer Maggot V: tetris is better of course
VardaValar1: I match Eowyn against anyone on tetris : )
Aerandir V: i have an old atari with the single joystick and button
GilraenV: tetris is great
Bomburv: I have a dreamcast lol
Eonwe Valar: My favorite game ever is Yar's Revenge. I was so good on the Atari 2600 version, I could beat each level in under 20 seconds :}
Farmer Maggot V: *pokes Arathorn -> look @ the Valar Programmers room :-P*
Aerandir V: has pong and about 20 slightly different versions of pong
GilraenV: we have a sega mega drive somewhere.
Bomburv: Gotta go eatttt
Bomburv: Namarie
VardaValar1: Later
GilraenV: with Aladdin and Lion King games. and Sonic, of course
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VardaValar1: Mario Brothers was fun too : )
Aerandir V: i have some atari MASH ame
Aerandir V: *game
ArPharazonV: back... what did I miss?
WrestlTulkas: My first meeting in I think a puter..back online
VardaValar1: Just chat
GilraenV: we had mario and wario for the original gameboy. still do somewhere
Farmer Maggot V: my first video game was Mario Brothers 2: The 6 Golden Coins
Farmer Maggot V: :-P
VardaValar1: Let's do a quick invite and start the meeting after
Eonwe Valar: Closest I ever got to an "end" to the game was when I get to a certain point, the programmer's initials came up :} THat was the result of hitting the "Ghost of Yars" as I recall :}
ArathornValar: hmm.. of my olf atari I think I only have the button left <chuckle>
VardaValar1: hehe
Aerandir V: I found a 1982 utimate gamer guide or somthing like that
Aerandir V: tells you strategies to beat the "laest" games
Aerandir V: *latest
suilenroc01 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya
Aerandir V: it tells you that that group of pixles is a machine gun
Aerandir V: and that one is supposed to be superman
ArathornValar: heh.. I found a program that lets you run old Nintendo games.. Punchout, Jeapardy, Marios bros.. the like.
Farmer Maggot V: An emulator Arathorn?
suilenroc01: that would be the name
suilenroc01: haha
VardaValar1: suilen, you're Ecthelion, right?
suilenroc01: yep
Eonwe Valar: They're coming out with an Atari system with 20 classic Atari games inside,. no game packs needed.
VardaValar1: Thanks
suilenroc01: sorry if i don't respond to any direct questionings
suilenroc01: i'm in the middle of my Stanford Application
Aerandir V: I think I saw one of those somewhere
ArathornValar: FM: yes.. there are quite a few.. and you just dl and load the game files you want.
VardaValar1: np, scroll is good
Eonwe Valar: And something I never knew : people actually program Atari games! (as in normal people like us, not developers)
ArathornValar: Found the same for old AppleII games too
ArPharazonV: ok, done scrolling
VardaValar1: I'll start the meeting and get it out of the way of our chat ;-)
ArPharazonV: speaking of old games: has anybody found a site yet where I can download a few Megaman-games?

Meeting Begins:
VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo
Farmer Maggot V: Arathorn: yep, I've tried a bunch of emulators :-D
Eonwe Valar: Ok, meeting time :}
Aerandir V: anyone ever seen those games on graphing calculators?
VardaValar1: Membership News:
VardaValar1: Tulkas-(Valar) is back among us
VardaValar1: Glad to see him back. He's been emailing with the Council when he can, but now has a good comp
VardaValar1: Any other Member news?

VardaValar1: Web News:
VardaValar1: Too busy with Thanksgiving this week to add to my site
VardaValar1: Anyone else manage anything?
VardaValar1: Forum has been busy with WoW news

VardaValar1: Gaming News:
VardaValar1: If you like, we can return to the Before chat at this point : )
VardaValar1: WoW is out and we are on Lothar server
LiberalHound has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Coordination done by the Forum for WoW
VardaValar1: Aiya Huan : )
ArPharazonV: Expect to see my Nightelf Rogue Calion on there as soon as the 'solution' is out
LiberalHound: Aiya
Aerandir V: aiya
WrestlTulkas: What game should I ask my wife for Xmas. I've been playing D2X this last to level 51 but alas no other guild members to play with
ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: Solution?
ArPharazonV: yes, to the problem of playing on an American server when you live in Europe
VardaValar1: Tulkas, sorry. I played a bit of D2X with Fangorn. What time of day EST do you come in?
Eonwe Valar: "Solution" means when European guys can get with us on USEast servers
VardaValar1: ouch
ArPharazonV: For those European gamers still wishing to play with their American friends on the North American servers, and vice versa, Blizzard will provide a means to make this possible after the European launch.
ArPharazonV: that's what the press release says
WrestlTulkas: Usually in Morning 9 am to noon, Varda
VardaValar1: That should bring in the other half of the guild to Lothar : )
VardaValar1: ah, thanks, Tulkas. I tend to be working then. You probably miss Sam's early morning showing up too
VardaValar1: Europeans might be able to play then too? That right, guys?
WrestlTulkas: What time is Sam on?
ArPharazonV: is there any reason Menelvagor is not here, btw? he is online
VardaValar1: Very early, like 3am
VardaValar1: Invite him in
Eonwe Valar: He's been sent an inviations, Phar
Eonwe Valar: He's probably afk
VardaValar1: Whole batch of invitations are falling on afks right now, and some can't enter the room, like Elros
Eonwe Valar: It's certainly not because we didn't try to drag him in here :}
VardaValar1: If someone knowledgeable could talk to Elros, maybe we can bring him in. I already tried
VardaValar1: Some setting I would figure
VardaValar1: Arathorn has some Quick AIM news
ArathornValar: As mentioned in the news..
ArathornValar: I have added a section to the Quickaim page that has 2 buddy lists that you can download if you feel your lists may be incomplete...
ArathornValar: Instructions on how to load them into your lists are there
ArathornValar: Then you can mix/match your own groups
ArathornValar: I will keep them updated as our AIM info changes.
ArathornValar: Done.
VardaValar1: Thanks!
VardaValar1: Arathorn has been a hardworking guy with that page and done some nifty programming on it!
VardaValar1: It's fun to go to just to play with the lists
VardaValar1: Any further news?

VardaValar1: Tolkien!
VardaValar1: Who besides Eonwe and Tulkas can tell us about the character, Tulkas?
VardaValar1: Who is he?
ArPharazonV: well, let's start with the basics
VardaValar1: Good place : )
ArPharazonV: he is a Valar, one of the more powerful Ainur, created before Ea.
ArPharazonV: he was one of those powerful Ainur who made his way to Arda, and assisted in its making and ordening
WrestlTulkas: has had a real crummy puter for the last year or so
ArPharazonV: the embodiment of violence for a good cause
WrestlTulkas: sorry
Aerandir V: could be the "god of the physical aspect of the body"(loosely)
ArPharazonV: in that case, he should be quite popular with the other gender...
ArPharazonV: but I digress, it seems I have spent too much time on the war3 forums...
VardaValar1: Probably true
Aerandir V: he is strong . does he ever use weapons besides his hands?
VardaValar1: Not something Tolkien goes into
VardaValar1: Sort of like a "broken monk" character : )
VardaValar1: He hardly needs anything besides his hands and can outrun a horse
Aerandir V: fights with turin against melkor in the last bttle
WrestlTulkas: Hence WrestlerTulkas AIM name or the only one that would work
Aerandir V: thats what he seems to be like. a god-like wrestler who hates melkor
Eonwe Valar: Tulkas is the Vala of unarmed combat, and pretty tough when he's not even serious,.. Melkor fled from Tulkas' wrath for good reason.
VardaValar1: I like his attitude. He's the laughing fighter, not like Makar and Meassa
ArPharazonV: hmm... he reminds me of somebody, but I can't really place it...
Eonwe Valar: If you fight Tulkas, it's best for your safety to keep Tulkas laughing :}
ArPharazonV: Obelix? no...
VardaValar1: He'll keep you in stitches
ArPharazonV: hmm.... I can see it right before me... who am I thinking of?
WrestlTulkas: Tulkas always seemed a little on the simple side, at least I read it that way, more inclined to wrestle things out rather than a more thoughtful solution
VardaValar1: He was the last Vala to enter Arda
ArathornValar: Could he be considered an Apollo.. god of war type?
ArathornValar: If we think about where Tolkien might have got the idea from...
VardaValar1: More like Ares
ArPharazonV: Ares seems more like Melkor
VardaValar1: Ares wasn't that bad : )
ArPharazonV: yet more kindly in appearance...
Eonwe Valar: Tulkas is not the guy you go to for Counsel,... he's the guy you go to to get things done,.. and a steadfast and loyal friend,.. can't ask much more,..
VardaValar1: Tulkas married Orome's sister, Nessa
Aerandir V: float like a butterfly. sting like a bee. watch out now, it's....Tulkas?
ArPharazonV: meh, perhaps I've seen too much of the adventures of Hercules and Xena :P
VardaValar1: The Valar already had the brainy types. They needed someone to put Melkor down
VardaValar1: Probably, Phar : )
VardaValar1: TV and Movies love to change everything
Aerandir V: look at the animated lotr
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, Tulkas and Sam share some similarities I suppose.
VardaValar1: Saw Alexander. Another wreck of history, but at least these people make people interested enough to look up the real info
ArathornValar: Well, Area was the god of war.. just a different nationalilty :-D
VardaValar1: Tulkas an Sam, interesting comparison
ArathornValar: *Ares
VardaValar1: Ares/Mars
ArPharazonV: not loading right
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Aerandir V: same hare
Aerandir V: no pics
Orodreth V: Aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya!
Orodreth V: semi-afk
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ArPharazonV: too bad... it's a great site, it's been mentioned here before
VardaValar1: Makar was the bad boy fighter on the good side for Tolkien's early stories
ArathornValar: Yes I love the Irish Alexander <snort!>
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ArPharazonV: I thought Makar leaned more towards Melkor?
VardaValar1: Maybe the site will be up when someone checks the transcript : )
Eonwe Valar: Tulkas and Sam were both fiercely loyal and more interested in meting out justice than mercy. "Give them what they deserve" kind of attitude.
VardaValar1: Makar stayed with the Valar
ArathornValar: Didn't he fight the Scots in Iceland <snicker>
ArPharazonV: I've always seen Makar and Measse (sp?) as the ones who will leave within time to join the dark side...
ArPharazonV: too bad Tolkien cut them out... or perhaps it was for the better
VardaValar1: But it is never told of in the stories, so we don't have to call them fallen : )
ArPharazonV: I'd call them future fallen, or potential fallen
Aerandir V: what book were they in?
ArPharazonV: lost tales
Aerandir V: blot?
Aerandir V: *bolt
ArPharazonV: yup
VardaValar1: Meassa, sister to Makare
VardaValar1: Makar
Eonwe Valar: Makar and Meassë weren't interested in destroying the world, only maintaining a precarious balance between construction and destruction. They revelled in destruction and battle, but they fought when necessary to preserve existence.
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VardaValar1: They just liked to fight : )
VardaValar1: Welcome back
Eonwe Valar: And they were not fond of Tulkas :} Interesting how it all comes back to Tulkas, hehe :}
Aerandir V: they cant fight when everyone is dead
VardaValar1: Tulkas could beat them
Farmer Maggot V: Thank you Varda
Aerandir V: so I guess thats an excuse to save people?
ArPharazonV: maybe they could have turned to Melkor, betraying him when things got really bad, rejoining the good side when they see the true depth of Melkor's evil
VardaValar1: Tulkas didn't really like their attitude, but liked that they kept him from getting soft among the peaceful types
Orodreth V: That's the point that every evil overlord in the world seems to miss: once you execute everyone, who will you lead?
VardaValar1: They already had an idea of the depths of Melkor's evil
VardaValar1: hehe Orodreth. Right
Eonwe Valar: Aye, they hated that he beat Makar with "unangered strength" or something similar
VardaValar1: So they try to enslave rather than kill
VardaValar1: Tulkas could beat them while laughing. Very embarrassing
ArPharazonV: laughing can cause strength as well
Orodreth V: I've never made it far into BoLT, but I do have 1/2 lays, and the shaping, if I can find them all.
ArPharazonV: or at least make you reckless
VardaValar1: Might pick a shelf spot especially for Tolkien. Helps me
VardaValar1: Aye, Phar! : )
Aerandir V: Im gonna need a new shelf
VardaValar1: We make new ones every so often : )
Aerandir V: 12 histories , silm ,lotr ,hob...
ArPharazonV: lol, I did that, putting them on a seperate shelf... but half of them have found their way to a big stack right next to my pc
VardaValar1: I have two shelves of Tolkien by the pc
WrestlTulkas: Well gang . It's great to see the guild still alive and well. I'm gonna go make a D2X nm game if any one wants to join
VardaValar1: I'll join
VardaValar1: Elros V is asking for help with his settings
WrestlTulkas: Namarie for now
VardaValar1: He just signed off to work on them
VardaValar1: Anyone else want to join us?
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Eonwe Valar: Take care Tulkas :}
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VardaValar1: Aiya!
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: hmm the Wrestler moves fast :}
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Menelvagor Valar: scuse me for my late entry

VardaValar1: I'm going to declare After-meeting
ArPharazonV: you've just missed Tulkas
ArPharazonV: and the meeting
VardaValar1: Don't have to stop chatting : )
VardaValar1: About to play some D2X
Eonwe Valar: hf Varda :}
ArPharazonV: so, you gonna hurry along the rp, then?
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VardaValar1: Elros V is the name that needs help, if anyone can help
VardaValar1: Woot!
Eonwe Valar: I'm about to log onto WC3 to keep the branch alive :}
Elros V: It worked
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Elros V: woot woot
Elros V: I figured out the problem
Eonwe Valar: make sure you all do too :}
Menelvagor Valar: <feels like a thundercloud at clear heaven>
ArPharazonV: I've played a few hours this afternoon
ArPharazonV: war of the jewels is pretty fun
VardaValar1: I will try to keep in the chat while gaming
Eonwe Valar: If you've had to remake your GUild account for WC3, now is the time to get it retagged
VardaValar1: What was the problem Elros
VardaValar1: Might help others reading the transcript to fix theirs
Elros V: I was using it as al inked screename, but not the main one
Elros V: so I signed on as just elros and itw orked
VardaValar1: I do plan to handle the rp possibly tonight or tomorrow, both are very busy, but by Tuesday at least
VardaValar1: Will need to research Thranduil's halls again
Elros V: i just got a new computer, so I can play good games, so everquest or diablo, or is everquest 2 the better one now?
VardaValar1: WoW might be
GilraenV: aye, that's a problem, Elros. I tend to just sign in as this sn with my others linked to it, as the Guild meeting is really the only time I'm in aim chat
ArPharazonV: I've been waiting for the meetings with him, for I only wish to do one more post before I make my way to the halls
VardaValar1: Diablo is one we all play anyway, a staple
ArPharazonV: and my arrival will be when night has already fallen
Elros V: I aim all the time so the others are more important, because I odnt want all my other friends to use this one
Elros V: ok I will get Diablo, and we play on is it expensive to play online?
VardaValar1: I haven't been able to invite you on any name
ArPharazonV: I only have one aim account... so I haven't had a problem yet
VardaValar1: Battlenet is free
VardaValar1: You only have to pay for the game
Elros V: i have like 9 screenames
Elros V: ok I iwll get Diablo soon so you guys can see me in action
VardaValar1: cool : )
Elros V: the girl I have been into for a while has finally made reference to picking things back up when she is back for the long break, I am like totally stoked
ArPharazonV: hey, perhaps I could ask for the battlechest for christmas... I could pay rotk ee and wow all by myself...
Eonwe Valar: congrats Elros
Eonwe Valar: D2 battle chest might be the cheaper of the 3 Phar :}
VardaValar1: Before I forget, Bilbo teamed up with Ulmo last night in EverQuest : )
Eonwe Valar: Clan Vala up for any Guild guys who need to be retagged
ArPharazonV: yes, I'm aware of that... so there would be a bigger chance of my parents being willing to buy it for me, Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: Cool! :}
VardaValar1: Congrats
Eonwe Valar: good reason Phar :}
Eonwe Valar: How's Ulmo doing?
Eonwe Valar: Has he made any waves recently or are the seas still calm? :}
ArPharazonV: in other news, I've continued further on my reread of Lotr.... now in the chapter 'the ring goes south'
VardaValar1: Osse's job to wave
Elros V: nice, I re-read once a year i would guess
VardaValar1: I'm now in Arda2-L with Tulkas for those who want to join in
Eonwe Valar: cool Phar
VardaValar1: Will check back now and then
Eonwe Valar: I thought Ossë's job was to Tsunami :}
ArPharazonV: it's my first re-read, actually, in all of these years...
ArPharazonV: I've embarked on the attempt once before, but I stopped when I came to the Barrowdowns... it was still too fresh in my mind
Elros V: i cant help it when I find nothing new to read for a while and go back to old faithful
Eonwe Valar: I reread every couple of years,.. do research at least once every couple of weeks,..
GilraenV: I have to go now, Namarie all
ArPharazonV: Namarie
Eonwe Valar: take care GIlraen :}
Elros V: Namarie
GilraenV: you all too
GilraenV: namarie
Eonwe Valar: Fare thee well, fair maiden :}
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ArPharazonV: but, it's fun to reread it now, I'm picking up loads of details... and I found that Pippin's famous line at the council of Elrond does not show up at all in the books
Eonwe Valar: Of course it doesn't :}
Elros V: Pippin wasnt at the council of elrond
ArPharazonV: well, you can never be too sure :-)
Eonwe Valar: That would be the "Quest,... ... thing" line right?
ArPharazonV: it could have been said later
ArPharazonV: no, the 'where are we going' I'm referring too
ArPharazonV: *to
Eonwe Valar: ah,... still not there, aye :}
ArPharazonV: or was that Merry?
Eonwe Valar: Merry acts a tad smarter :}
Elros V: what was the line?
Eonwe Valar: even if they're hard to tell apart the first time through :}
ArPharazonV: as far as I can recall, the words were 'Where are we going?'
ArPharazonV: in that typical funny accent of his
Elros V: is it immediately before Elrond suggests he doesnt go
ArPharazonV: I did find the 'tieing in a sack' thing
ArPharazonV: and I also found the bit where Bilbo wants to see Frodo's ring again... but it happened when they first saw each other again, the first evening Frodo's awake
ArPharazonV: and not when Bilbo gives him Sting and the mail
Elros V: i thought it was in the chamber of fire r whatever
ArPharazonV: yup
Elros V: ok
ArPharazonV: that's where they met again
Elros V: up to that is where the movies left out so much
Elros V: like the special barrow downs swords....
ArPharazonV: yup, that's right
ArPharazonV: btw, Fladrif told me he had read, that Bombadil either told Frodo he should not put on the ring near the Barrow Wights, or afterwards that it was good that he did not put the ring on....
ArPharazonV: but I did not find that peace, or anything resembling it, anywhere
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ArPharazonV: *piece
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Elros V: i dont believe it took place, he thought about it, but it would have meant abandoning his friends
ArPharazonV: yes, that I did find, and Gandalf speaking about it to him when he wakes up in Rivendell...
ArPharazonV: but the part Fladrif said I could not find anywhere
Elros V: i think that was all the mention of the incident
Eonwe Valar: heya Finarfin
Elros V: how do you guys change the color of your screename here?
Eonwe Valar: Don't know if you saw my correction last week, Finarfin, but the info I told you about was in Book 10 of HoME, not Book 12.
Eonwe Valar: You can't , Elros. Colors are assigned by the order we come in.
FINARFIN010: ok. thank you
Elros V: o ok
ArPharazonV: and your own color will always show up as red
FINARFIN010: what is the topic being discussed?
Elros V: ok I am sorry to stay so short, and now that I can I iwll be back, but I have to type some reports before I get reamed tomorrow morning
ArPharazonV: ArPharazonV: btw, Fladrif told me he had read, that Bombadil either told Frodo he should not put on the ring near the Barrow Wights, or afterwards that it was good that he did not put the ring on....
Eonwe Valar: They're discussing some scenes in the books right now. I'm programming :}
ArPharazonV: ArPharazonV: but I did not find that peace, or anything resembling it, anywhere
Elros V: i have to go to the office to do this though
Eonwe Valar: np Elros take care :}
Elros V: bye guys
ArPharazonV: Namarie
Elros V: Namarie
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FINARFIN010: Namarie
ArPharazonV: but that was the topic we were at the moment discussing
FINARFIN010: i see
Eonwe Valar: Varda and Tulkas are in LoD if you're looking to catch a game, Finarfin
FINARFIN010: why thank you :-)
ArPharazonV: some part where Bombadil told Frodo about putting the ring on near the Wights, or something.... I didn't find it
Eonwe Valar: Tulkas has a new computer :}
FINARFIN010: i do not believe he mentioned anything about the wringwraths and wearing the ring. but i could be wrong.
ArPharazonV: no, the Wights
ArPharazonV: the Barrow-Wights
FINARFIN010: oops
FINARFIN010: sorry bout that
Eonwe Valar: I don't recall it, but that doesn't mean by some strange incident it isn't there :}
FINARFIN010: of course
FINARFIN010: the only thing i can remember about the ring and any thing said by Bombdil was something about Frodo's hand being more fair without it.
FINARFIN010: well i am going to see if i can indeed catch a game with Varda.
FINARFIN010: Ta Ta for now.
ArPharazonV: bye
FINARFIN010: Namarie
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Eonwe Valar: Ok, anyone want to make Phar drool about WoW? :}
VardaValar1: hehe
ArPharazonV: make me drool about WoW?
ArPharazonV: I've read enough stories and seen enough screenshots to be prepared for much of what you could tell me
Eonwe Valar: You also played the open beta, didn't you?
ArPharazonV: no, I didn't...
Eonwe Valar: hmm
ArPharazonV: I'm in Europe, and they haven't had one yet
Eonwe Valar: Thought you had for some reason.
ArPharazonV: no, I heard later that you could sign-up for it outside of the US for some bug or another
ArPharazonV: but when I went to the site, the signups were already closed
Eonwe Valar: aye, I never got to sign up either
Eonwe Valar: the fighting style is different from what I'm used to
Eonwe Valar: not used to having an auto-attack
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ArPharazonV: well, the controls, for what I've seen in the leaked alpha and beta so many months ago, are pretty similar to that of Morrowind...
Orodreth V: Ar, you're GMT +1, right?
ArPharazonV: but the combat system was indeed a bit tricky
ArPharazonV: yup, I am
Orodreth V: Kay.
ArPharazonV: WET, as I like to call it
ArPharazonV: Western European Time
ArPharazonV: why?
Orodreth V: Occult rituals involving the sun, the moon, and politicians. ;-)
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ArPharazonV: well, I guess that wraps it up
ArPharazonV: I'll save the transcript now, and sent it over
Eonwe Valar: pretty much :}
ArPharazonV: *send
ArPharazonV: I'll be looking forward to the point when it is right for me to post again in the rp :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Menelvagor Valar: still here Phar? :-)
ArPharazonV: yup
ArPharazonV: gonna signup for an rp in the war3 forums..
ArPharazonV: I'll send the transcript when I go to bed
Menelvagor Valar: hehe :-)
Menelvagor Valar: just wanted to let you know I'll be pre-ordering WoW tomorrow
ArPharazonV: from where?
Menelvagor Valar: Dimension Plus
ArPharazonV: what country?
Menelvagor Valar: Groningen, Holland
ArPharazonV: cool
Eonwe Valar: congrats Menel :}
ArPharazonV: online?
Menelvagor Valar: nah, I can't figure out this online thingy of theirs
Menelvagor Valar: and have to go to their shop tomorrow to pick up FFX at any rate
ArPharazonV: cool
ArPharazonV: perhaps I'll get a version from Dinabyte, or whatever it's called...
ArPharazonV: I believe there is one in Leiden, so that's convenient
Menelvagor Valar: DynaByte
Menelvagor Valar: DB a lot bigger than DP
Menelvagor Valar: DP only has 2 stores, one in Groningen, and 1 in Doetinchem
ArPharazonV: yup, one in Leiden... cool
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Farmer Maggot V: mwahahaha!
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Farmer Maggot V: it works mike
Farmer Maggot V: Arathorn 19:25:15Pharazon 01:25:15Orodreth 18:25:15Farmer Maggot 19:25:15
MJKeenan123: hmm?
ArPharazonV: nice
Farmer Maggot V: MJKeenan: a clock, uses a file to get member's offsets from GMT and then shows it
Menelvagor Valar: the wattus, farmer?
Farmer Maggot V: wattus? eh?
VardaValar1: Aiya
VardaValar1: In D2X with Finarfin
Menelvagor Valar: which lvls?
Menelvagor Valar: ok, make that whattus :-)
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GwaihirValar: *drops pin*
Menelvagor Valar: *picks up pin and pricks Gwaihir*
Farmer Maggot V: heh
GwaihirValar: *Swats the silly constellation with his wing*
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Menelvagor Valar: *is being too far away from a breathable atmosphere to be hit, so continues undisturbinlgy*
MJKeenan123: so, is anyone here planning on playing WoW?
Menelvagor Valar: definitely :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Eonwe already plays
Menelvagor Valar: Phar and me are going to after the euro release
MJKeenan123: what server? a few friends of mine are going on Durotar
ArPharazonV: as soon as I've got it, I will play :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Gwai plays
Menelvagor Valar: Arathorn plays
ArPharazonV: Lothar
Menelvagor Valar: Maglor does
MJKeenan123: I should have mine mid week
ArPharazonV: Lothar-server
ArPharazonV: for the guild
Menelvagor Valar: Lothar server is where the most people are, yes
MJKeenan123: ahh, about half the people I know from everquest are on medhive or how ever that one is spelled, or my best friends are on durotar
MJKeenan123: so, alliance, or horde?
ArPharazonV: alliance for the guild
ArPharazonV: at least for now
MJKeenan123: bah! I am going undead warlock, out of all the race class combos it appealed to me the most :-P
GwaihirValar: I'm not on Lothar yet
GwaihirValar: waiting for others
ArPharazonV: I'll be going undead rogue in Europe, and train myself with the bow... I plan on ascending to a Dark Ranger :-)
Menelvagor Valar: I'm going for a Troll Paladin and Gnomish Shaman
MJKeenan123: not possible :p
ArPharazonV: Shaman is Horde only
ArPharazonV: Paladin is Alliance only
MJKeenan123: yea
ArPharazonV: either you're kidding
GwaihirValar: he's kidding
MJKeenan123: I figure he was kidding
ArPharazonV: or you sure know how to pick them
MJKeenan123: EQ2 it would be possible
GwaihirValar: he said the same thing to me yesterday
Menelvagor Valar: indeed I did
Menelvagor Valar: was trying to get you to the bait again :-)
Menelvagor Valar: but someone else was fine as well :-)
ArPharazonV: lol
ArPharazonV: that's mean, Menel
ArPharazonV: :-)
MJKeenan123: just remember, in all MMO type games, HP>mana
MJKeenan123: hp>all other stats actually
ArPharazonV: lol, that's not just MMO
GwaihirValar: LOL
GwaihirValar: hp = stamina in this
GwaihirValar: prettymuch
ArPharazonV: that's also in RPGs, RTSes, etc etc
MJKeenan123: yea
MJKeenan123: but still, HP>all
MJKeenan123: raw hp> all
GwaihirValar: my priest never gets hit
GwaihirValar: why does she need hp?
MJKeenan123: because, when you fight bigger stuff
GwaihirValar: and when she does get hit, she usually heals it back pretty quickly
MJKeenan123: you will get hit eventually
GwaihirValar: I'll use my invincibility spell
GwaihirValar: and not get hit
MJKeenan123: and the bigger the mob, the harder it hits
GwaihirValar: lol
MJKeenan123: if you have time to cast it
Orodreth V: That is the number one problem with 99% of games.
ArPharazonV: heh, reminds me of my nature mage in DS
Orodreth V: Raw HP always wins.
Orodreth V: In the long run.
GwaihirValar: invincibility spell
GwaihirValar: is instant
MJKeenan123: hmmm
ArPharazonV: I've got very few hp and armor, but my spells are pretty powerful, and my healing is beyond belief....
GwaihirValar: Power Word: Shield
GwaihirValar: instant cast
Orodreth V: I want my fireball to be as good as your 700 billion health.
GwaihirValar: not COMPLETE invincibility
Eonwe Valar: there, done with one program
Eonwe Valar: heya Gwaihir
ArPharazonV: my mana is so huge that I can cast healing all over and over again and not run out
GwaihirValar: hey lol
GwaihirValar: but healing is tough to get off
GwaihirValar: when you're getting attacked
GwaihirValar: spells are REALLY tough to get off
ArPharazonV: so unless I'm hit very quickly, I can remain alive almost indefinitely
ArPharazonV: well, that's the advantage DS has over WoW
GwaihirValar: not against a hunter ;-)
MJKeenan123: in a lot of situations, you will get owned by mobs if you dont have HP
GwaihirValar: in this
GwaihirValar: that is
ArPharazonV: spells go automatic, and during battle
GwaihirValar: automatic spells?
GwaihirValar: that'd be SO overpowered
GwaihirValar: only some spells should be auto
ArPharazonV: well, it's kinda like the autocast in War3, but...
Eonwe Valar: When I start getting hit bad, I use one of my invulnerablility abilities, run, then try to get in the other :}
GwaihirValar: if my mind blast were automatic...
ArPharazonV: as long as you have mana, you'd just keep using it
GwaihirValar: I'd be invincible
GwaihirValar: god thjat spell is powerful
ArPharazonV: if you have healing selected, you will auto-heal whenever you get below half your hp
MJKeenan123: the thing you dont want to do is run around when you start getting hit. Trust me, it makes it harder for the tank type to pull the hate off of you
GwaihirValar: but it draws so much aggro
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GwaihirValar: depends on what the tank is
ArPharazonV: aggro... another thing DS does not have...
GwaihirValar: if the tank is a fast mover or another caster...
Eonwe Valar: I am usually solo so far :}
GwaihirValar: well, you're a paladin
Eonwe Valar: so I am the tank :}
MJKeenan123: ahh
GwaihirValar: paladins, warriors, and hunters CAN solo
GwaihirValar: and warriors too
GwaihirValar: err
GwaihirValar: warlocks*
GwaihirValar: caster classes can't do it after level 10
MJKeenan123: I am going warlock, and im glad I played EQ, sets me up to know how things work
GwaihirValar: except druids somewhat... with bear form they can tank a little
Eonwe Valar: I've seen priests do fairly ok soloing
GwaihirValar: I think, from what I've heard, warlock is different in WoW
GwaihirValar: what level, Eo?
MJKeenan123: is there a root or snare(movement decrease) type spell?
Eonwe Valar: around 12
MJKeenan123: I played a shaman in EQ
GwaihirValar: ya, my priest can solo somewhat
GwaihirValar: at 14
GwaihirValar: but it's tough
GwaihirValar: one level above me and I'm in trouble
MJKeenan123: not a necro, which is closest class to a warlock
GwaihirValar: there are a LOT of movement decrease spells
Eonwe Valar: helps when your friendly neighborhood Paladin comes by and casts Holy Light on you :}
GwaihirValar: lol
GwaihirValar: that doesn't happen to my priest
GwaihirValar: no paladins around here barely
MJKeenan123: okay, and how do they balance the movement decrease spells?
Eonwe Valar: I do it for others,.. with a blessing or two thrown in as well sometimes
MJKeenan123: in EQ they allow mobs to summon you
ArPharazonV: well, I'm going
GwaihirValar: movement decrease spells aren't godly
ArPharazonV: saving transcript now
GwaihirValar: that's how
GwaihirValar: lol
Eonwe Valar: take care Phar
MJKeenan123: well, they are in a sense
MJKeenan123: because they they allow you, if the mob isnt ranged
GwaihirValar: no they're not
MJKeenan123: to solo it
GwaihirValar: no they don't lol
GwaihirValar: they help
GwaihirValar: but they don't make it easy
ArPharazonV: saved
ArPharazonV: will send it now
MJKeenan123: if the mob can run as fast as you, you need the HP to stand toe to toe
MJKeenan123: but with movement decrease, you just need to kite it around
Eonwe Valar: Having a Hunter is quite useful,.. Grimbold and I got together on Lothar Friday night,.. was easier when he starting pulling things so we didn't get surrounded.
GwaihirValar: hunters are amazing...
GwaihirValar: I love my hunter lol
GwaihirValar: I'm of the opinion they're the most powerful overall class
Eonwe Valar: funnily though, he was generating more aggro than me, the tank :}
GwaihirValar: god yes
GwaihirValar: hunters generate so much aggro
GwaihirValar: with arcane strike, hunter's mark, and aspect of the hawk
GwaihirValar: so much damage
MJKeenan123: trust me Gwai, I play EQ, and snare, which is the spell type that lowers movement speed, is almost as unbalancing in that game as being able to slow
Eonwe Valar: probably the only way to top his aggro would've been to use Laying of Hands :}
MJKeenan123: slow attack speed I mean, I have played classes able to do both at the high end of the game, and unless WoW is balanced against that, then there will be a lot of problems down the road
GwaihirValar: but WoW is different from EQ
GwaihirValar: WoW is the only MMO that's ever held ANY interest for me... at ALL
GwaihirValar: lol
ArPharazonV: Namarie... I'll read all of this when the transcript goes up
Eonwe Valar: take care and sleep well :}
VardaValar1: Namarie
MJKeenan123: what about middle earth online Gwai?
VardaValar1: Heya Oropher :-)
MJKeenan123: hey Varda
VardaValar1: Heya
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VardaValar1: Latiralis is in EQ now, killing Rallos Zek
MJKeenan123: I quit EQ, if you want to use my EQ1 account to help your character level let me know
MJKeenan123: I can give you the info
MJKeenan123: I have about a half a year on the account paid
VardaValar1: wow
VardaValar1: Latiralis says yes
VardaValar1: You know how to email me, Oropher?
MJKeenan123: okay, you guys wont own the account, I just have a few friends using it
MJKeenan123: yea, or I can get on and tell lat sometime
VardaValar1: That sounds fun
GwaihirValar: oddly enough, no, MEO has little interest for me....
VardaValar1: Email me?
Eonwe Valar: Aye, that is Odd Gwaihir :}
VardaValar1: I will give Lat the info
MJKeenan123: okay, I have your email saved somewhere
VardaValar1: Tolkien fan not interested in Tolkien game :-)
MJKeenan123: I can always get on EQ and tell him as well
VardaValar1: My email is all over the web pages
Eonwe Valar: But then, not much has been released yet, and at one point WoW held no interest for you :}
Menelvagor Valar: ok, in clan vala
MJKeenan123: yea, I have that saved on my quick email list I think
VardaValar1: It's on our web pages. Just click anywhere
MJKeenan123: yea
MJKeenan123: I technically gave the account to a friend, but he dosnt play EQ, its a long story as to why, but yea
MJKeenan123: so I cant give the account away, but you guys can play it if no one else is using it
GwaihirValar: That'd be about why, Varda... I've never really been fond of games made out of things I know elsewhere
VardaValar1: Good thing you don't have to join :-)
VardaValar1: ok, we have our own account so it's no hardship :-)
MJKeenan123: yea, but it will be easier for Lat to make cash in game if he can 2box my account
MJKeenan123: or he can just farm with my toon if he takes time to learn it
VardaValar1: We had thoughts of gaming together on two accts
MJKeenan123: thats fine
MJKeenan123: you can delete the ranger on the account, he is ungeared
MJKeenan123: all the rest you should probably deequip first
MJKeenan123: my toon also has GM alchemy so he can make lat gate potions if you have the cash to make them
VardaValar1: He says he's doing good
MJKeenan123: cool, tell him to get on aim more to talk :-)
Eonwe Valar: Ok guys, in a second, I'll be open for either WC3 or WoW if anyone wants to drag me into one of them :}
MJKeenan123: ill play wc3
MJKeenan123: dont have WoW on the comp here
Eonwe Valar: and Oropher wins the coin toss :}
Eonwe Valar: I'm already in Clan Vala if you'd like to join me there
MJKeenan123: okay ill brt
Eonwe Valar: Anyone else for some WC3?
GwaihirValar: I'm WoWing right now... so... no thanks...
Eonwe Valar: ok :}
MJKeenan123: sorry Eon, right now, my brother is using the CD key for this WC, so I cant play atm
MJKeenan123: I have another cd key, but I would need to uninstall and reinstall with the other
MJKeenan123: ill just play CS:Source
Eonwe Valar: ok np
MJKeenan123: sorry about that, some other time maybe
Eonwe Valar: Sure,.. I'm going to try and set aside one night a week for WC3
Eonwe Valar: should match the about 1 night a week for WoW, and which I have time for the rest of the nights
Eonwe Valar: *whichever
Eonwe Valar: If there's no one else for WC3, would you care to start that NE on Lothar now, Gwaihir?
Eonwe Valar: or are you in the middle of a quest?
Menelvagor Valar: hmmmz
Menelvagor Valar: according to GMT+1, I am now officially a mamber of the Guild for 5 years!
Menelvagor Valar: *cheers*
Eonwe Valar: congrats Menelvagor :}
Eonwe Valar: The case they gave me for my WoW game DVD is disappointing,..
Eonwe Valar: It's a slip of cardboard
Eonwe Valar: Lucky for me I had an empty CD case
Eonwe Valar: WoW talk about adding a slew of new servers,.. about 14-16 rought estrimate are now up
Eonwe Valar: *rough estimate
Eonwe Valar: 16, yep,.. and turns out one of the servers that was down because of overpopulation was Khadgar,.. was he mentioned in WC3?
GwaihirValar: I'm sure he was mentioned lol
Eonwe Valar: If he was, my hypothesis holds true :}
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Menelvagor Valar: Namarie
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Eonwe Valar: Everyone having fun? :}
GwaihirValar: heh, sure
Eonwe Valar: Grimbold just got on
Eonwe Valar: Says he's sorry he missed the meeting, duty called
GwaihirValar: ah
VardaValar1: Aiya. Okie dokie
VardaValar1: D2X down to Arathorn and I now
VardaValar1: Had Finarfin, Tulkas, and Menelvagor with us earlier. Nice huge game :-)
GwaihirValar: hehe :-)
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Eonwe Valar: Grim's looking to start a new char on Lothar, Gwai
Eonwe Valar: and there he is :}
GwaihirValar: welcome Grimbold
Grimbold V: hehe..speak of the devil eh?
GwaihirValar: what race are you looking at?
Grimbold V: Aiya...
Grimbold V: not sure on race...but thinking warrior
Grimbold V: I believe all races can be warrior regardless
GwaihirValar: I dunno if there are many more Alliance chars I wanna start so it's gonna take me a little while to think of one...
Grimbold V: either that or druid
GwaihirValar: already got the two main ones I wanted to start
Grimbold V: qool
Grimbold V: I have to start over so..
GwaihirValar: NE Hunt and NE Priest
GwaihirValar: ahh
Grimbold V: Dwarf hunt
Grimbold V: Are you wanting to go Horde?
Eonwe Valar: Guild isn't going Horde at this time :}
Grimbold V: I know..but pertaining to Gwaihir's comment about alliance char
GwaihirValar: well, there are a few horde chars I wanted to start... but they won't be my guild chars
GwaihirValar: as I have already booked their names, and they're not related to my guild name at all :-)
Grimbold V: hehe good thinking
Grimbold V: you have tauren?
Grimbold V: Guess I might as well just wait on making my guild char then til everyone starts playing on the server
Grimbold V: I know Arathorn is going to try to join the WoW living as soon as he can so I think I'll just wait to make my guild char w/ him then
Eonwe Valar: Well, we have You, me, Gwaihir, and Maglor up for playing on Lothar,.. Arathorn says he's up for it when he gets WoW, and we've got some European guys who will play it as well.
Eonwe Valar: That's a majority I think :}
Grimbold V: ok then...
Eonwe Valar: but I think I'm missing someone,..
Grimbold V: going back to wow...
Eonwe Valar: ok
GwaihirValar: hmm....
VardaValar1: My two sons and I will probably come into Lothar too
VardaValar1: May get WoW next week depending on the height of the bills : )
GwaihirValar: I wonder which char I should make... I have plans for a female human mage... but... again.. the name not along with my Guild name...
VardaValar1: So are you going to do any guild characters?
GwaihirValar: yes, I just have to think of one
GwaihirValar: lol
GwaihirValar: an alliance char that I don't have that I want to do hehe
Eonwe Valar: Dwarf Paladin? :}
GwaihirValar: I'm not big on paladins usually
GwaihirValar: D2X was an exception
GwaihirValar: lol
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GwaihirValar: warrior and paladin don't hold too much interest for me...
GwaihirValar: too.... melee... *Shudders* ;-)
VardaValar1: Aiyata Eonwe
GwaihirValar: welcome back
Eonwe Valar: thanks
Eonwe Valar: guess it was 6 hours already
GwaihirValar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: hehe Gwaihir,.. Paladin was the example you used in defense of PvP,..
Eonwe Valar: trying to tap into my affinity for Paladins? ;}
GwaihirValar: well, no, it was just an ideal exampl3e
GwaihirValar: because it had a perfect correlation...
Eonwe Valar: Human/orcs isn't perfect?
GwaihirValar: not quite perfect
GwaihirValar: the paladin is sworn to preserve the light... the undead are the ultimate perversion of the light...
GwaihirValar: so paladin/undead is absolutely perfect for an example
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Eonwe, could you tag the Fangorn WC3 account in Valar please?
VardaValar1: Can't enter Clan Vala
Eonwe Valar: ack, one sec
Eonwe Valar: I'll need to switch from WoW to WC3
VardaValar1: Thanks, no hurry
VardaValar1: o sorry
VardaValar1: Maybe some other time
Eonwe Valar: I'm in mid-quest anyway :}
VardaValar1: That sounds like something not to interrupt
Eonwe Valar: as in, a point where I don't absolutely have to keep going :}
VardaValar1: I'll just leave it up until you get around to it
Eonwe Valar: ok
Eonwe Valar: There,.. now two young lovers can be together :}
VardaValar1: Sounds good! WoW plot?
Eonwe Valar: Yep, a young lady asks a letter be taken to her lover,.. I'll leave the rest of the quest for you to find out :}
Eonwe Valar: Fangorn tagged btw :}
VardaValar1: Thanks!
VardaValar1: Eowyn next if I can get the account in there
Eonwe Valar: ok
Eonwe Valar: I will add this though : Seems the Stonefields and the McLures had a bit of a feudin'
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Please re-invite. Goes by fast
Eonwe Valar: reinvited :}
VardaValar1: Thanks. Eowyn is present now
VardaValar1: There we go! Thanks
Eonwe Valar: mp :}
Eonwe Valar: Anyone else?
Eonwe Valar: Admittedly, I haven't played tag in a while, but when I tag someone, shouldn't they be the one to tag the next person? :}
VardaValar1: It worked! The Varda account is tagged :-)
VardaValar1: Rules obeyed ;-)
VardaValar1: So you should show three new Clan Vala members now?
Eonwe Valar: aye
VardaValar1: Yay
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: And this time next week, they'll no longer be peons, but grunts :}
VardaValar1: Will they need to sit in the channel for some length of time?
VardaValar1: Yay : )
Eonwe Valar: only if they're new accounts
Eonwe Valar: then they need to sit ther efor the normal new account time
VardaValar1: Same ones we tried to tag last time, not new
VardaValar1: no worries then : )
Eonwe Valar: aye :}
Eonwe Valar: They're sending me into Westfall
GwaihirValar: westfall?
Eonwe Valar: Yep, Westfall
GwaihirValar: where is that again?
Eonwe Valar: it's west of Goldshire
Eonwe Valar: in Azeroth
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GwaihirValar: ah
VardaValar1: 12:05 am EST now