Valar Guild

May 30, 2004 Meeting

AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
5pm EST, 22:00 GMT

News page

Meeting Begins
Membership News:
    Thorondor meeting problems
    Turgon returns
    Turgon and Quickbeam playing Utopia same time
    Eonwe will be gone to an Anime convention
    Celebrimbor has Glamdring
    Maia Testing
Web :
    Poetry page
    Games page
Gaming :
    MEO rp talk before main meeting (Middle-earth Online)
    D&D talk before main meeting (Dungeons & Dragons)
    Utopia
    DAOC (Dark Age of Camelot)
    EQ  (EverQuest)
    EQ Server
    EQ2 (EverQuest 2)
    WoW (Worlds of WarCraft)
    Morrowind
    WC3 (WarCraft 3 and The Frozen Throne)
    D2X (Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction)
    WotR (War of the Ring)
Tolkien : (Arathorn presiding. Eonwe, Gwaihir, and Varda off entry testing)
    Arathorn's topic: Unconfusing the Books and Movies from each other.

Before Meeting:
(2:22:41 PM) TurgonjustTurgon has entered the room.
(4:11:18 PM) Celebrimbor V has entered the room.
Celebrimbor V (4:11:27 PM): Aiya Turgon
(4:24:06 PM) ArPharazonV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV (4:24:09 PM): Aiya
Celebrimbor V (4:29:52 PM): Hail Ar-Pharazon
ArPharazonV (4:30:04 PM): How are you doing?
Celebrimbor V (4:30:32 PM): cleaning
Celebrimbor V (4:30:33 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (4:30:59 PM): I'm browsing, that's a lot more fun I deem :-)
Celebrimbor V (4:32:06 PM): indeed
(4:42:48 PM) Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar (4:43:50 PM): heya
ArPharazonV (4:44:01 PM): hail
(4:44:57 PM) MJKeenan123 has entered the room.
(4:45:14 PM) ArathornValar has entered the room.
ArPharazonV (4:45:24 PM): Aiyaiya
Eonwe Valar (4:45:29 PM): THat's invitatiosn to everyone that's online in my
buddy list
ArPharazonV (4:45:48 PM): who's in the waiting list?
Eonwe Valar (4:46:54 PM): Orodreth, XSeanzee, DemonicHorde, Gwaihir, Thorondor
ArPharazonV (4:47:17 PM): who's phoenixlord?
Eonwe Valar (4:47:40 PM): unknown to me
ArPharazonV (4:47:58 PM): well, he was in my valar list
ArPharazonV (4:48:01 PM): so I invited him
ArPharazonV (4:48:21 PM): akhoril, the site says
(4:48:44 PM) DemonicHorde69 has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar (4:48:47 PM): Hmm didn't think we still had an Akhoril
ArPharazonV (4:49:05 PM): well, it appears he showed up in an aim meeting :-)
(4:49:11 PM) Thorin 7623 has entered the room.
ArPharazonV (4:49:21 PM): aiya
ArathornValar (4:49:23 PM): Aiya all...
Eonwe Valar (4:49:43 PM): heya
Celebrimbor V (4:49:44 PM): Aiya
Thorin 7623 (4:49:54 PM): greetings
ArPharazonV (4:50:03 PM): you invited ecthelion yet?
ArPharazonV (4:50:18 PM): suilenroc01?
Celebrimbor V (4:50:23 PM): he's away
Celebrimbor V (4:50:28 PM): he declined mine
ArathornValar (4:50:31 PM): MY Guild friend Thorin will be joining us today...
will try out for the guild test today ... hopefully <heh> no cold feet Thor!
ArPharazonV (4:50:31 PM): so is XSeanzee
Eonwe Valar (4:50:33 PM): hmm he's not on my list
Celebrimbor V (4:50:59 PM): Ecthelion seems to be having PC trouble
Eonwe Valar (4:51:36 PM): OK Apparently we do still have an Akhirl :}
Eonwe Valar (4:51:42 PM): Just checked Member Activity page
ArathornValar (4:51:46 PM): Phoenix is Akhoril
Eonwe Valar (4:51:49 PM): Akhoril even
Celebrimbor V (4:51:51 PM): I see
ArPharazonV (4:52:01 PM): phoenix is invited
Celebrimbor V (4:52:06 PM): aye
ArathornValar (4:52:47 PM): Have Orod and Thorondor invited ..
Celebrimbor V (4:53:24 PM): already are
ArathornValar (4:53:29 PM): Is Varda away this weekend?
Eonwe Valar (4:53:31 PM): We'll give it a couple more minutes
ArathornValar (4:53:47 PM): ok... afk for a sec.. brb
Eonwe Valar (4:54:05 PM): She's been having computer and internet troubles
recently. She way away last week as it turns out, I had just forgotten :}
Celebrimbor V (4:54:23 PM): shes' invited
Eonwe Valar (4:54:23 PM): And she just walked in :}
(4:54:24 PM) VardaValar1 has entered the room.
Celebrimbor V (4:54:31 PM): Aiya and Hail Varda
Eonwe Valar (4:54:33 PM): heya :}
VardaValar1 (4:54:37 PM): Thanks Eonwe!
VardaValar1 (4:54:47 PM): Aiya everybody!
ArPharazonV (4:55:00 PM): Aiya
MJKeenan123 (4:55:03 PM): sorry about not really being here the past few weeks,
been sort of busy
ArPharazonV (4:55:23 PM): oh yes, sorry I missed last meeting
Celebrimbor V (4:55:27 PM): as am I
VardaValar1 (4:55:31 PM): Glad you could make it this time : )
Celebrimbor V (4:55:34 PM): have been busy with the movie industry
ArPharazonV (4:55:50 PM): and sorry I probably won't be here next meeting
VardaValar1 (4:55:52 PM): I am now able to sit up and not be dizzy, so you are
stuck with me this meeting
Celebrimbor V (4:56:02 PM): glad to hear that
VardaValar1 (4:56:22 PM): Who can handle invites?
Celebrimbor V (4:56:34 PM): invites have been sent
Eonwe Valar (4:56:37 PM): I've got everyone invited who's on my list and is
online
ArPharazonV (4:56:41 PM): I think by now everybody is invited 3 times :-)
Celebrimbor V (4:56:45 PM): yeah
Celebrimbor V (4:56:46 PM): surely
Eonwe Valar (4:56:48 PM): others have done the same :}
VardaValar1 (4:56:55 PM): hehe
VardaValar1 (4:56:57 PM): Thanks!
(4:57:12 PM) ThorondorV has entered the room.
Celebrimbor V (4:57:22 PM): aiya Thorondor
ThorondorV (4:57:24 PM): Heya all
VardaValar1 (4:57:31 PM): Aiya Eagle : )
ArPharazonV (4:57:34 PM): aiya
ThorondorV (4:57:56 PM): I need to wake up early, so I'm just visiting..
ArPharazonV (4:58:11 PM): do eagles need sleep?
Celebrimbor V (4:58:17 PM): lol
ThorondorV (4:58:21 PM): This eagle does :-)
ArPharazonV (4:58:25 PM): ok, that's probably been asked a thousand times
already....
ArPharazonV (4:58:36 PM): but I just had to do it :-D
VardaValar1 (4:59:20 PM): I still show a few minutes to meeting time
Eonwe Valar (4:59:59 PM): Using those few minutes to add to MEO RP :}
TurgonjustTurgon (5:00:10 PM): already did that :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:00:15 PM): Aiya Turgon

ArPharazonV (5:00:21 PM): yes, perhaps I could post again... but there's just to
little to say
VardaValar1 (5:00:28 PM): I just read Turgon's. Nice intro
ArPharazonV (5:00:30 PM): aiya, Turg
VardaValar1 (5:00:33 PM): Guess I don't get to shoot you
ArPharazonV (5:00:42 PM): you still can!
TurgonjustTurgon (5:01:00 PM): Aiya everyone :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (5:01:04 PM): and thanks
ArPharazonV (5:01:06 PM): perhaps you don't trust him, no matter what we think,
and shoot him down for the greater good!
VardaValar1 (5:01:15 PM): Bloodthirsty Calion :-)
VardaValar1 (5:01:26 PM): If he strikes me that way, aye :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (5:01:26 PM): Elves don't shoot elves :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:01:31 PM): lol
Thorin 7623 (5:01:38 PM): no but dwarves do
ArPharazonV (5:01:41 PM): and how about daggerthrowing?
Celebrimbor V (5:01:43 PM): dark elves
Celebrimbor V (5:01:44 PM): lol
MJKeenan123 (5:01:47 PM): thats why you dress em up as orcs
Celebrimbor V (5:01:50 PM): lol Thorin
VardaValar1 (5:02:04 PM): In the leg we do ;-)
ArPharazonV (5:02:23 PM): I think I'll be turning evil... in a while
VardaValar1 (5:02:23 PM): Keep him from sneaking up on us again!
VardaValar1 (5:02:34 PM): Please don't :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:02:42 PM): isn't Sauron already gone?
Celebrimbor V (5:02:43 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (5:02:43 PM): perhaps I'll be infected by Gulhuine.... heavy doses
of it
VardaValar1 (5:03:00 PM): Think it won't affect elves or we will all turn evil
VardaValar1 (5:03:15 PM): Probably no humanoid sentients
TurgonjustTurgon (5:03:28 PM): err... gulhuine..?
ArPharazonV (5:03:35 PM): perhaps if you get exposed to too much, like that
wolfleader, even humanoids can be turned
VardaValar1 (5:04:04 PM): Bad for plot, no good guys
ArPharazonV (5:04:04 PM): and I think, that one of the possible outcomes will be
Helvy saving me like I saved him...
TurgonjustTurgon (5:04:16 PM): question
TurgonjustTurgon (5:04:22 PM): what is gulhuine?
Celebrimbor V (5:04:25 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (5:04:28 PM): or, perhaps, I'll take control of Dol Guldur, and
become your archenemy
VardaValar1 (5:04:30 PM): That dark fog
VardaValar1 (5:04:37 PM): the mind-turner
ArPharazonV (5:04:38 PM): Turg... read part 1
TurgonjustTurgon (5:04:43 PM): ah
TurgonjustTurgon (5:04:47 PM): not going to
ArPharazonV (5:05:08 PM): I know you think, that as a new char, you are supposed
to be ignorant about part 1, but still
TurgonjustTurgon (5:05:19 PM): part 1 is not important to my character
Eonwe Valar (5:05:23 PM): lol let's not take over Fortresses already inhabited
by TOlkien's characters :}
(5:05:28 PM) GwaihirValar has entered the room.
GwaihirValar (5:05:36 PM): hello
ArPharazonV (5:05:38 PM): you should have noticed the dark clouds spreading
above Mirkwood, when you first arrived ;-)
Celebrimbor V (5:05:41 PM): Aiya Gwaihir
TurgonjustTurgon (5:05:42 PM): and if I do read it, it will impair my judgment
on what I am supposed to know
ArPharazonV (5:05:42 PM): Aiya, Gwai
VardaValar1 (5:05:48 PM): Aiya
ThorondorV (5:05:50 PM): hey
Eonwe Valar (5:05:53 PM): Parts are Turgon :} but when mentioning those, we
should make sure to give a brief explanation for refreshers
TurgonjustTurgon (5:05:53 PM): too busy avoiding elves
ThorondorV (5:06:29 PM): Wellwell, time for me to go. :{ all sundays will be
pretty much like this for the next 3 months
VardaValar1 (5:06:34 PM): ouch
Eonwe Valar (5:06:37 PM): take care Eagle:}
GwaihirValar (5:06:38 PM): cya!
Celebrimbor V (5:06:40 PM): namarie
VardaValar1 (5:06:42 PM): Please feel free to use the forum!
ThorondorV (5:06:49 PM): Good night everyone :-)
ArPharazonV (5:06:51 PM): namarie
(5:06:54 PM) ThorondorV has left the room.
TurgonjustTurgon (5:07:01 PM): well, that's the thing with roleplaying, will
have to explain lots of things several times if new players join the party
VardaValar1 (5:07:17 PM): Just send them to part one! :-)
Eonwe Valar (5:07:39 PM): yeah, we can use the fallback of saying "well, it was
deiscussed along the way." :}
TurgonjustTurgon (5:07:44 PM): It's all cool and well to have them be omniscient
all of a sudden, but that's not done
Thorin 7623 (5:07:47 PM): just outta couriosity how many d and d players are in
the guild?
ArPharazonV (5:07:48 PM): or, we could say 'and Calion told (insert name here)
about what had happened, in full detail'
VardaValar1 (5:08:05 PM): A lot of D&D players who are undeclared : )
Celebrimbor V (5:08:10 PM): I play Dnd
VardaValar1 (5:08:11 PM): Sauron plays it a lot
Thorin 7623 (5:08:21 PM): i am not ashamed of it
TurgonjustTurgon (5:08:31 PM): well, you could just give a short explanation
ArPharazonV (5:08:39 PM): I'm now a fan of a D&D comic... does that count?
VardaValar1 (5:08:43 PM): Not ashamed, just not on the Games page out of
laziness
Celebrimbor V (5:08:55 PM): lol
TurgonjustTurgon (5:09:03 PM): for example, at the question, what is gulhuine,
one can answer, "it's a black mist we ran into"
VardaValar1 (5:09:22 PM): It's the fog that is coming off Dol Guldur that is
taking over the minds of things like wolves and spiders
TurgonjustTurgon (5:09:26 PM): then it's up to you to decide whether to
elaborate
Celebrimbor V (5:09:28 PM): aye
ArPharazonV (5:09:31 PM): well, ran into... one I discovered above South
Mirkwood while plucking leaves from a white willow tree
TurgonjustTurgon (5:09:48 PM): see?
TurgonjustTurgon (5:10:04 PM): I don't need to read part 1 to get to know those
things that are important to me :-)
ArPharazonV (5:10:24 PM): you actually know where in Mirkwood we are?
VardaValar1 (5:10:24 PM): Would be nice though
TurgonjustTurgon (5:10:27 PM): Like I don't know what the heck a dwarf is, let
alone that he is a lousy rider :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:10:36 PM): watch out Thorin
Celebrimbor V (5:10:37 PM): lol
Thorin 7623 (5:10:41 PM): hahaha
TurgonjustTurgon (5:10:53 PM): and that's about my char Thorin :-)
Thorin 7623 (5:10:53 PM): i ll walk
Thorin 7623 (5:11:03 PM): o sorry
Celebrimbor V (5:11:03 PM): so shall we begin?
VardaValar1 (5:11:10 PM): Pardon, lots of pms
TurgonjustTurgon (5:11:21 PM):
http://valarguild.proboards22.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ME
ORP&num=1083127064&start=0
TurgonjustTurgon (5:11:32 PM): just read it there :-)
ArPharazonV (5:11:57 PM): :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (5:11:59 PM): yes, let's begin

VardaValar1 (5:12:00 PM): Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo
VardaValar1 (5:12:06 PM): Member news:
TurgonjustTurgon (5:12:41 PM): *can't hold back his enthusiasm and cheers over
the crowd: "I am back!!"*
ArPharazonV (5:12:51 PM): Aiyata
VardaValar1 (5:12:52 PM): We are considering doing Maia tests with only 2 Valar.
Comments?
VardaValar1 (5:13:01 PM): Aiyata, Turgon!
Celebrimbor V (5:13:16 PM): I am beginning work on my first article!
Celebrimbor V (5:13:17 PM): sorry
Celebrimbor V (5:13:21 PM): was excited
VardaValar1 (5:13:40 PM): Please jump in with comment on Maia test, ok, you've
got to be kidding, or whatever
ArPharazonV (5:13:54 PM): what was it before? the entire council?
VardaValar1 (5:13:59 PM): Three Valar
VardaValar1 (5:14:07 PM): Maiar, I especially want your comments
GwaihirValar (5:14:27 PM): hmm... with two Valar?
VardaValar1 (5:14:32 PM): Aye
VardaValar1 (5:14:54 PM): Timing has become extremely difficult in dragging in 3
Valar when a Maia test is needed
Eonwe Valar (5:15:02 PM): For reference, usually a test would be done with 3
Valar. Hopefully you knew that :}
ArPharazonV (5:15:28 PM): I did not... still aren't one yet, Maia nor Vala :-)
GwaihirValar (5:15:28 PM): I dunno... I've gone through both my tests with 3
Valar presiding... and I think it's better that way... but I suppose that it
would be much more convenient... perhaps leave the standard at 3 and in the case
that a test is needed
VardaValar1 (5:15:29 PM): We often had more than 3, but 3 was the minimum
GwaihirValar (5:15:33 PM): but only 2 can be arranged...
GwaihirValar (5:15:42 PM): leave that as an option...
VardaValar1 (5:15:48 PM): 2 as an option?
GwaihirValar (5:15:54 PM): well, as a last resort
VardaValar1 (5:16:00 PM): It's coming down to that
GwaihirValar (5:16:02 PM): in the event that 3 cannot be arranged
GwaihirValar (5:16:10 PM): but 2 can be gathered...
TurgonjustTurgon (5:16:38 PM): which is mostly the case :-)
Thorin 7623 (5:16:59 PM): why not have a maia sit with the two valar?
GwaihirValar (5:17:00 PM): however, if we can get all the Valar using AIM... it
should be a little easier to gather 3 ;-)
VardaValar1 (5:17:29 PM): We considered it, makes the single Maia the same as a
Vala
Celebrimbor V (5:17:34 PM): is there not a possible third candidate?>
VardaValar1 (5:17:48 PM): Candidate?
Celebrimbor V (5:17:53 PM): to become a maia
TurgonjustTurgon (5:18:02 PM): As a regular member and a true Maia-wannabe, I
can say that preferrably I would be tested by 3 Valar, but I don't think someone
on call for Maia honor should wait for months just because 3 Valar cannot be
gathered
GwaihirValar (5:18:05 PM): Celebrimbro, I believe you've gotten confused :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:18:10 PM): I believe so
Celebrimbor V (5:18:18 PM): I've had the worst week imagineable
Celebrimbor V (5:18:24 PM): so I'm out of it
Celebrimbor V (5:18:26 PM): sorry
GwaihirValar (5:18:26 PM): the tests for Maia Honour are con ducted, as it
stands now, with 3 Vala Honour members presiding
VardaValar1 (5:18:26 PM): I am distressed over the long wait as well
GwaihirValar (5:19:12 PM): Mine, for example, was Salmar, Namo, and Varda... if
I remember correctly
VardaValar1 (5:19:19 PM): We can make another last ditch try at dragging in
Valar at the same time. We can get 3 or 4, but never at the same time
TurgonjustTurgon (5:19:44 PM): like now, we once again have 2
VardaValar1 (5:20:00 PM): Meeting time is tough. Many Valar work then
GwaihirValar (5:20:02 PM): Aye, we nearly always have two at meeting time...
Celebrimbor V (5:20:03 PM): what about setting a set time for three Valar
GwaihirValar (5:20:14 PM): and always the same two ;-)
VardaValar1 (5:20:17 PM): and the candidate
TurgonjustTurgon (5:20:18 PM): I've only very rarely seen more than 2 Vala
online at the same time
VardaValar1 (5:20:28 PM): Our timing is very off :-)
GwaihirValar (5:20:31 PM): In the past few months, since the DAoC thing
happened...
GwaihirValar (5:20:35 PM): started*
GwaihirValar (5:20:38 PM): I haven't seen more than two
GwaihirValar (5:20:42 PM): except on very rare occasions
TurgonjustTurgon (5:20:43 PM): real life often gets in the way of set timing
VardaValar1 (5:20:47 PM): Sam is very early in the morning
Celebrimbor V (5:20:48 PM): indeed
MJKeenan123 (5:21:00 PM): what DAoC thing?
GwaihirValar (5:21:02 PM): before DAoC, Salmar now Irmo was online constantly
VardaValar1 (5:21:02 PM): Elatan is Europe, dead by meeting time
Celebrimbor V (5:21:12 PM): aye
VardaValar1 (5:21:17 PM): We might be able to get Melkor :-)
GwaihirValar (5:21:26 PM): since DAoC began developing a guild branch, I mean
Celebrimbor V (5:21:27 PM): then what about considering moving someone else to
maiar stature
MJKeenan123 (5:21:30 PM): ohh
Celebrimbor V (5:21:33 PM): I mean Valar
TurgonjustTurgon (5:21:33 PM): Ulmo is too hooked to EQ to drag him from it :-)
MJKeenan123 (5:21:42 PM): EQ > DAoC
GwaihirValar (5:21:49 PM): same would be for Aule, I'd bet, Turgon
VardaValar1 (5:21:52 PM): AIM should handle that
VardaValar1 (5:22:00 PM): Aule comes to Bnet sometimes, WC3
GwaihirValar (5:22:07 PM): aye, I know... do all the Valar use AIM?
MJKeenan123 (5:22:14 PM): I talk to aule when I log on EQ and hes on
TurgonjustTurgon (5:22:16 PM): even so, that also is very rare
Thorin 7623 (5:22:20 PM): pardon but what is DAoC?
VardaValar1 (5:22:22 PM): Ok, sounds as if we will try to stick to three Valar
for Maia tests for now
TurgonjustTurgon (5:22:26 PM): Dark Age of Camelot
TurgonjustTurgon (5:22:30 PM): MMO
VardaValar1 (5:22:31 PM): Dark Age of Camelot, a MMORPG
MJKeenan123 (5:22:32 PM): its crazy though, because ive finally almost caught up
to him in EQ
VardaValar1 (5:22:39 PM): Great!
GwaihirValar (5:22:39 PM): Aule hasn't been on bnet in 53 days :-)
Thorin 7623 (5:22:41 PM): Thank u
VardaValar1 (5:22:46 PM): Now you get to work on AA's :-)
MJKeenan123 (5:22:52 PM): I have 100 aa
MJKeenan123 (5:22:58 PM): hes at like 150 maybe 175
MJKeenan123 (5:23:09 PM): and has maybe 2 flags more then me
VardaValar1 (5:23:15 PM): Okie dokie
ArPharazonV (5:23:16 PM): what are AA's?
VardaValar1 (5:23:20 PM): Any other Member news?
MJKeenan123 (5:23:22 PM): EQ thing
ArPharazonV (5:23:24 PM): I know a bit about EQ
TurgonjustTurgon (5:23:30 PM): sidetracking :-)
ArPharazonV (5:23:36 PM): been reading the WTF forum for a while

VardaValar1 (5:23:40 PM): Web News:
TurgonjustTurgon (5:23:41 PM): can't seem to go without it :-)
ArPharazonV (5:23:51 PM): so I'm starting to learn more and more about EQ...
TurgonjustTurgon (5:23:53 PM): that too, Varda :-)
VardaValar1 (5:23:55 PM): The Poetry page is almost through wth rebuilding
ArPharazonV (5:23:56 PM): ok go on
MJKeenan123 (5:23:56 PM): alternate advancement points, for when you get to 65
and have no more leveling to do, its a way to keep people in the game
VardaValar1 (5:24:16 PM): Just finished Maglor's section, getting close
ArPharazonV (5:24:22 PM): thnx, MJ
VardaValar1 (5:24:48 PM): Eonwe will be absent for an Anime convention, so we
may have more waiting on Maiar tests
TurgonjustTurgon (5:24:52 PM): I've got a small bit of game / web / member
news-like thingy
VardaValar1 (5:24:58 PM): Turgon, go ahead
TurgonjustTurgon (5:25:20 PM): when I got my connection back last week, I once
again signed up for Utopia
TurgonjustTurgon (5:25:25 PM): (a web based game)
TurgonjustTurgon (5:25:38 PM): and I landed into a kingdom with Quickbeam
TurgonjustTurgon (5:25:58 PM): and since that being a chance of 1 in a whole
very lot, I'd thought it worth a mention :-)
VardaValar1 (5:26:18 PM): Very cool :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (5:26:29 PM): so did I :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (5:27:02 PM): neways, that's it from me
VardaValar1 (5:27:30 PM): Any other Web news?
VardaValar1 (5:27:50 PM): Gaming News:
Celebrimbor V (5:27:50 PM): I might be adding an article to the encyclopedia
soon
VardaValar1 (5:27:53 PM): ahh
Celebrimbor V (5:27:53 PM): oh
VardaValar1 (5:27:59 PM): Sorry, Cel
Celebrimbor V (5:28:09 PM): it's alright
VardaValar1 (5:28:19 PM): I've heard many say they were going to. I guess I
believe it when I see it :-)
VardaValar1 (5:28:25 PM): Looking forward to it
Celebrimbor V (5:28:28 PM): just was gonan mention I'm working on an article on
the palantiri
VardaValar1 (5:28:43 PM): I did not see Orodreth's story, he might not have my
right email?
VardaValar1 (5:29:10 PM): Gaming News:
VardaValar1 (5:29:26 PM): We need to make sure the D2X banks, ladder and
regular, don't expire
VardaValar1 (5:29:31 PM): Just pop in now and then
Celebrimbor V (5:29:38 PM): I finally got my comp to tolerate WotR
VardaValar1 (5:29:44 PM): Congrats!
Celebrimbor V (5:29:49 PM): so I might be looking to find a few around here to
play with
VardaValar1 (5:29:59 PM): Be sure to email Eonwe for the Games page so we can
tell who is playing what!
Celebrimbor V (5:30:07 PM): alright
VardaValar1 (5:30:13 PM): Anyone else here play War of the Rings?
MJKeenan123 (5:30:23 PM): I have wotr, game is decent, but not as balanced like
WC3
GwaihirValar (5:30:24 PM): I have it, don't play it often, but I have it
VardaValar1 (5:30:44 PM): If you have someone to play with, you might play more
:-)
ArathornValar (5:30:44 PM): I jumped into the ladder ones last week and got them
back... didn't see any left after that?
Celebrimbor V (5:30:49 PM): aye
VardaValar1 (5:31:07 PM): Did you check out the Regular banks?
ArathornValar (5:31:26 PM): no... I heard they were lost?
VardaValar1 (5:31:41 PM): Who said?
VardaValar1 (5:31:50 PM): I'll have to go check that out later
ArathornValar (5:31:59 PM): semed I saw it mentioned wither in a meeting or on
the board?
VardaValar1 (5:32:16 PM): Shouldn't be. I will check it out later, for sure
VardaValar1 (5:32:28 PM): They will be back up if they are lost, after that
ArathornValar (5:32:37 PM): hmm.. ok.. will take a gander too.. maybe only some
chars were
VardaValar1 (5:32:43 PM): Any other gaming news?
ArPharazonV (5:32:47 PM): just wanted to add a little gaming news of my own, not
really important though
VardaValar1 (5:32:50 PM): DAoC, WoW?
VardaValar1 (5:32:54 PM): Phar, go ahead
ArPharazonV (5:33:09 PM): Morrowind... I finally got the GotY-edition, after
long waiting
ArPharazonV (5:33:18 PM): meaning: editor, and expansions
VardaValar1 (5:33:19 PM): Congrats! How is it?
ArPharazonV (5:33:26 PM): and a very cool paper map
ArPharazonV (5:33:46 PM): it's great, the expansions are pretty nice
ArPharazonV (5:33:59 PM): a lot more story :-)
MJKeenan123 (5:34:14 PM): I have some news also
MJKeenan123 (5:34:38 PM): on EQ, a friend is moving to a new server, if you
think about starting EQ
VardaValar1 (5:34:40 PM): Phar, let us know when you're done
VardaValar1 (5:34:54 PM): Guild EQ server is Zebuxoruk, by the way
MJKeenan123 (5:34:57 PM): and want to play with some people who wont have a lot
of nice gear
ArPharazonV (5:34:59 PM): oh yes, done.. MJ, you have the floor :-)
ArathornValar (5:35:05 PM): Re: gaming... Grimbold and I have been power lvling
this week in D2X.. we have 5 chars each that were bringing up simultaneously
<heh>
MJKeenan123 (5:35:23 PM): at least not yet
MJKeenan123 (5:35:28 PM): message me after the meeting
MJKeenan123 (5:35:37 PM): this is for those interested in starting out EQ
VardaValar1 (5:36:03 PM): Some of us are about to start a test
TurgonjustTurgon (5:36:04 PM): no offense there, but why start with EQ if one
can wait for WoW? :-D
VardaValar1 (5:36:15 PM): We need a volunteer to handle the Tolkien discussion
MJKeenan123 (5:36:19 PM): because WoW dosnt float my boat
Celebrimbor V (5:36:23 PM): tolkien discussion?
ArPharazonV (5:36:23 PM): or wait for EQ2?
(5:36:30 PM) Eonwe Valar has left the room.
TurgonjustTurgon (5:36:34 PM): who's getting tested?
ArathornValar (5:36:37 PM): I'll take it..
MJKeenan123 (5:36:39 PM): not everyone likes Blizzards cartoonish graphics
VardaValar1 (5:36:43 PM): Thorin7623
TurgonjustTurgon (5:36:49 PM): good luck!
Celebrimbor V (5:36:57 PM): good luck Thorin!
ArPharazonV (5:37:00 PM): gl!
Celebrimbor V (5:37:04 PM): may the grace of the valar be with ya!
VardaValar1 (5:37:26 PM): We try ;-)
Celebrimbor V (5:37:34 PM): ;-)
ArathornValar (5:38:57 PM): Hhmmm we all still here?
ArPharazonV (5:39:02 PM): yes
Celebrimbor V (5:39:04 PM): yes
VardaValar1 (5:39:08 PM): Sort of
VardaValar1 (5:39:14 PM): Trouble getting into the test room

ArathornValar (5:40:37 PM): So, anyone have a Tolkien Topic?
ArathornValar (5:40:55 PM): ...
ArPharazonV (5:40:56 PM): uhm... no, not really
ArathornValar (5:41:08 PM): Anyone have a heartbeat?
Celebrimbor V (5:41:11 PM): I do!
Celebrimbor V (5:41:11 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (5:41:12 PM): I'll be happy to participate in absolutely anything,
though
Celebrimbor V (5:41:20 PM): well, I could seuggest a few......
Celebrimbor V (5:41:25 PM): places....people
Celebrimbor V (5:41:27 PM): things
ArathornValar (5:41:32 PM): OK, well, I'm going to go on a tangent..
ArathornValar (5:41:42 PM): Comparing the movie and the book...
TurgonjustTurgon (5:41:46 PM): that sounds interesting :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:41:50 PM): indeed
ArPharazonV (5:42:00 PM): let's start with the obvious things
ArathornValar (5:42:07 PM): I've been reading and rerenting .. and I have to
say,, now I'm getting confused in doing so!
ArPharazonV (5:42:07 PM): elves in Helm's Deep
Celebrimbor V (5:42:14 PM): aye
ArPharazonV (5:42:16 PM): Frodo in Osgiliath
Celebrimbor V (5:42:20 PM): Eomer at Helm's Deep
ArathornValar (5:42:22 PM): The Pelennor fields!
VardaValar1 (5:42:25 PM): One elf in Helm's Deep :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:42:25 PM): AYE!
Celebrimbor V (5:42:28 PM): aye
Celebrimbor V (5:42:36 PM): Tom Bombadil
MJKeenan123 (5:42:38 PM): ive read the books only four times, seen the movies
2-3 times
Celebrimbor V (5:42:48 PM): Barrow wights
ArPharazonV (5:42:48 PM): Glorfindel??
VardaValar1 (5:42:49 PM): Topics need to be a bit narrower
ArathornValar (5:42:50 PM): The movie had the dead killing off teh
orc/easterling hoards...!
Celebrimbor V (5:43:05 PM): you don't even see the easterlings
ArPharazonV (5:43:08 PM): Fatty Bolger
Celebrimbor V (5:43:08 PM): all haradrim
MJKeenan123 (5:43:12 PM): the movie didnt have Theoden slaying the leader of the
Haradrim
MJKeenan123 (5:43:26 PM): that was like his final moment of glory if you
remember
ArPharazonV (5:43:28 PM): the Houses of Healing
Celebrimbor V (5:43:31 PM): the confrontation with Gandalf and the
Witchking......
VardaValar1 (5:43:36 PM): Narrow down topics, guys
ArathornValar (5:43:38 PM): Not quite so dramatic in the book... at least not in
that battle.
MJKeenan123 (5:43:50 PM): like wasnt it "the white horse has slain the black
serpent" or red serpent
MJKeenan123 (5:43:52 PM): yes it was
Celebrimbor V (5:43:54 PM): and Eowyn and the Witchking
VardaValar1 (5:43:55 PM): The confrontation is an example of narrowing, much
better
MJKeenan123 (5:44:03 PM): it was a big point in that chapter
Celebrimbor V (5:44:08 PM): where was the good dialogue?
MJKeenan123 (5:44:10 PM): him slaying the haradrim leader
ArPharazonV (5:44:35 PM): thankfully, the mouth of Sauron will be in the
extended version...
Thorin 7623 (5:44:38 PM): it was one of the tide turning events
Celebrimbor V (5:44:50 PM): what about the whole thing with the Black ships
sailing and Mordor's morale?
Celebrimbor V (5:45:03 PM): and the flag of gondor being raised
TurgonjustTurgon (5:45:04 PM): there is one thing that bothered me most:
ArathornValar (5:45:05 PM): exactly...
ArPharazonV (5:45:11 PM): and the Dead participating in Minas Tirith?
ArathornValar (5:45:14 PM): no undead on the ship in the book
TurgonjustTurgon (5:45:15 PM): that the dead came upon the pellennor fields
Celebrimbor V (5:45:20 PM): yeah
ArPharazonV (5:45:24 PM): :-)
ArathornValar (5:45:27 PM): right
TurgonjustTurgon (5:45:29 PM): instead of just ridding the anduin of the
Umbarians
ArathornValar (5:45:42 PM): Like using an atom bomb to kill a mosquito
VardaValar1 (5:46:02 PM): Now working on test, will peek in at discussion :-)
Celebrimbor V (5:46:17 PM): whta about the Nazgul and their appearance
(5:46:20 PM) Bomburv has entered the room.
ArPharazonV (5:46:23 PM): Aiya
Bomburv (5:46:25 PM): hail
Celebrimbor V (5:46:26 PM): no fiery visage and iron crowns
Celebrimbor V (5:46:37 PM): just hoods and a helmet
ArPharazonV (5:46:37 PM): did they not have crowns in Fotr?
Celebrimbor V (5:46:46 PM): in the twilight world
ArPharazonV (5:46:51 PM): yes?
ArathornValar (5:46:55 PM): The book showed more a sense of fear that drove away
teh enemy to their own deaths... not an 'armageddon' spell <chuckle>
Celebrimbor V (5:47:01 PM): yeah
Celebrimbor V (5:47:41 PM): what about the whole timing in the FOTR
ArPharazonV (5:47:44 PM): still, those Dead would have been useful on the
Pelennor Fields, or at the Black Gate...
Celebrimbor V (5:48:00 PM): Gandalf is prisoner escapes and passes them on the
way to Rivendell
ArathornValar (5:48:00 PM): Also, when Aragorn meets the ead.. in the book he
doesn't 'parlay' with any leader as in teh movie..?
ArPharazonV (5:48:01 PM): you mean the passing of 17 years?
ArathornValar (5:48:20 PM): *Dead
Celebrimbor V (5:48:39 PM): the dead at the gate would greatlt helped
Celebrimbor V (5:48:40 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (5:48:46 PM): indeed, they just passed through, and when the came
out, the Dead were following him...
Celebrimbor V (5:48:50 PM): yeah
ArPharazonV (5:49:04 PM): and then, at the Stone of Erech, he actually summoned
them.. or something
ArathornValar (5:49:08 PM): heh.. The dead folloeing Frodo to mount doom... him
sshhing the m all the way :-P
Celebrimbor V (5:49:10 PM): yeah
Celebrimbor V (5:49:13 PM): LOL
ArPharazonV (5:49:24 PM): they would have taken care of Gollum!
Celebrimbor V (5:49:29 PM): AYE!
Celebrimbor V (5:49:30 PM): lol
VardaValar1 (5:49:42 PM): The Enslaved Dead, they were lucky
ArathornValar (5:49:43 PM): Again.. overkill! <chuckle>
Celebrimbor V (5:49:45 PM): or they could've toppled Barad-dur
Celebrimbor V (5:49:54 PM): easily
ArPharazonV (5:50:01 PM): I still like the Eagles duelling the Nazgul were
cool...
Celebrimbor V (5:50:04 PM): yeah
ArathornValar (5:50:15 PM): Pan to the eye... a sudden "Uh-oh!"... scrambling
noises
ArPharazonV (5:50:19 PM): wow, that was 2 sentences in one
Celebrimbor V (5:50:29 PM): he he
ArPharazonV (5:50:51 PM): I still like the Eagles duelling the Nazgul / I still
think the Eagles duelling the Nazgul were cool
Celebrimbor V (5:50:58 PM): I liked the fact that the showed Gandalf as though
he did appear old...he could fight
Celebrimbor V (5:51:03 PM): *they
VardaValar1 (5:51:11 PM): Aye
Celebrimbor V (5:51:19 PM): sigh...Mithrandir
Celebrimbor V (5:51:20 PM): lol
ArathornValar (5:51:28 PM): Actually I was watching the LoTR cartoon the other
day and some points were straight out of the book... others, well, not so much
<heh>
Celebrimbor V (5:51:33 PM): yeah
ArathornValar (5:51:39 PM): I mean the RoTK...
Celebrimbor V (5:51:42 PM): I grew up on that cartoon
ArathornValar (5:51:46 PM): not the Bakshi one
ArPharazonV (5:51:57 PM): Rotk cartoon? could you send it on aim? ;-)
Celebrimbor V (5:52:01 PM): lol
ArathornValar (5:52:03 PM): was catered to children.. 1980
Celebrimbor V (5:52:11 PM): u talking about the same that made the hobbit?
ArathornValar (5:52:29 PM): On the way Phar... sent it by eagle <heh>
ArathornValar (5:52:39 PM): yeah.. same as hobbit
Celebrimbor V (5:52:43 PM): yeah
(5:52:48 PM) Alabastadapimp has entered the room.
Celebrimbor V (5:52:53 PM): I got Galmdring as a gift (on a side note)
Alabastadapimp (5:52:57 PM): hello
ArPharazonV (5:53:03 PM): you know where I live?
ArPharazonV (5:53:07 PM): Aiya, btw
ArathornValar (5:53:08 PM): in that one no one gets hurt after killing the witch
king... how convenient <chuckle>
Celebrimbor V (5:53:14 PM): yeah right
VardaValar1 (5:53:23 PM): Hello, Alabasta. Do we know you?
Celebrimbor V (5:53:27 PM): aye
Alabastadapimp (5:53:30 PM): old memeber
ArathornValar (5:53:39 PM): Merry and Eowyn just walking around happy as you
please
Celebrimbor V (5:53:43 PM): yeha
Celebrimbor V (5:53:44 PM): lol
Alabastadapimp (5:53:50 PM): old old member
Alabastadapimp (5:53:54 PM): many years
Celebrimbor V (5:53:55 PM): but the Witchking had the fiery visage and iron
crown
Celebrimbor V (5:53:56 PM): lol
Alabastadapimp (5:53:56 PM): many years
VardaValar1 (5:54:08 PM): What was your previous name/
VardaValar1 (5:54:09 PM): ?
ArathornValar (5:54:13 PM): yeah... that was clsoe to the mark... even the lines
are right out of the book
ArathornValar (5:54:19 PM): stayed true that way
Celebrimbor V (5:54:22 PM): I loved the lines out of the book
Celebrimbor V (5:54:31 PM): that made it even more exciting
Celebrimbor V (5:54:40 PM): watching the Witchking hesitate
Alabastadapimp (5:54:43 PM): I was a tree
Alabastadapimp (5:54:46 PM): a giant tree
ArathornValar (5:54:50 PM): although the witch king's voice leaves somethign to
be desired.. Fred FLinstone's old boss!!?? I mean REALLY!
ArPharazonV (5:54:57 PM): old man willow?
GwaihirValar (5:54:59 PM): an Ent or Old Man Willow?
Celebrimbor V (5:55:02 PM): well, my friends, I must take my leave..........
Celebrimbor V (5:55:11 PM): I shall be talking to you all soon
ArathornValar (5:55:12 PM): Namarie
Celebrimbor V (5:55:14 PM): namarie
GwaihirValar (5:55:14 PM): farewell
ArPharazonV (5:55:14 PM): namarie
Alabastadapimp (5:55:19 PM): ent
(5:55:21 PM) Celebrimbor V has left the room.
TurgonjustTurgon (5:55:22 PM): Namarie
Alabastadapimp (5:55:23 PM): a walking ent
ArPharazonV (5:55:28 PM): quickbeam?
GwaihirValar (5:55:35 PM): Quickbeam's still around I think...
ArPharazonV (5:56:25 PM): Leaflock? Wandlimb?
ArPharazonV (5:56:33 PM): Beechbone?
Bomburv (5:56:34 PM): Who was wandlimb?
VardaValar1 (5:56:37 PM): No Wandlimb
TurgonjustTurgon (5:56:38 PM): gonna restart comp, it's getting slower
VardaValar1 (5:56:41 PM): Fangorn's wife
ArPharazonV (5:56:59 PM): ic... well, I just looked at the ent names in the
naming section :-)
Alabastadapimp (5:57:02 PM): quickbeam is my name
Alabastadapimp (5:57:09 PM): my ex name
ArPharazonV (5:57:11 PM): see? see? I told you!
(5:57:14 PM) TurgonjustTurgon has left the room.
Alabastadapimp (5:57:16 PM): good guess pharazon
ArPharazonV (5:57:19 PM): :-D
GwaihirValar (5:57:21 PM): I don't remember Quickbeam leaving lol
Alabastadapimp (5:57:24 PM): aww so the people leave quickly
Alabastadapimp (5:57:39 PM): well
Alabastadapimp (5:57:47 PM): i got knocked out for idling
VardaValar1 (5:57:49 PM): When did you leave?
VardaValar1 (5:57:58 PM): I lose track
VardaValar1 (5:58:13 PM): I'll check
ArathornValar (5:58:46 PM): afk for a sec...
Alabastadapimp (5:58:50 PM): i got banned
Alabastadapimp (5:58:53 PM): for idleness
Bomburv (5:58:56 PM): what kind of name is Alabastadapimp? lol
VardaValar1 (5:58:59 PM): not banned for idleness
Alabastadapimp (5:59:00 PM): i diddnt respond cause i hate email
Alabastadapimp (5:59:06 PM): alabastadapimp is from long ago fool
Alabastadapimp (5:59:08 PM): get off me
VardaValar1 (5:59:18 PM): banning is not for idleness
Bomburv (5:59:19 PM): lets be nice
Alabastadapimp (5:59:23 PM): not banning
VardaValar1 (5:59:25 PM): just drop
Alabastadapimp (5:59:27 PM): so much as droppig
Alabastadapimp (5:59:29 PM): exactly
Alabastadapimp (5:59:40 PM): so how are things in the guild?
VardaValar1 (5:59:49 PM): very lively
VardaValar1 (6:00:00 PM): I"m in a test at the same time, pardon not paying
attention
VardaValar1 (6:00:09 PM): News and Forum help keep track
(6:00:32 PM) TurgonjustTurgon has entered the room.
ArPharazonV (6:00:37 PM): aiyata
TurgonjustTurgon (6:00:39 PM): back I am :-)
GwaihirValar (6:01:15 PM): are you back? ;-)
ArPharazonV (6:01:28 PM): back he is... and happy we are for it!
VardaValar1 (6:01:38 PM): Sure enough, Quickbeam got dropped
VardaValar1 (6:01:46 PM): Did you want back in, Quick?
Alabastadapimp (6:01:51 PM): i dunno
Alabastadapimp (6:01:53 PM): i dont play much anyway
VardaValar1 (6:01:57 PM): You seem to be here :-)
Alabastadapimp (6:02:01 PM): yeah
VardaValar1 (6:02:04 PM): Many members don't play
VardaValar1 (6:02:14 PM): They use AIM or do Tolkien-only
Alabastadapimp (6:02:18 PM): probably will go idle for a long time again
Alabastadapimp (6:02:22 PM): but alright
VardaValar1 (6:02:27 PM): Lot of forum use
VardaValar1 (6:02:33 PM): Would any of that be of interest to you?
Alabastadapimp (6:02:38 PM): perhaps
Alabastadapimp (6:02:42 PM): but i havent read the books in a while
Alabastadapimp (6:02:47 PM): do i need to retest?
VardaValar1 (6:02:54 PM): Should, yes
VardaValar1 (6:03:04 PM): I need to go back to the guy I'm testing, pardon
Alabastadapimp (6:03:49 PM): hmmm
ArPharazonV (6:05:20 PM): back to Tolkien, guys?
VardaValar1 (6:05:32 PM): hold up
VardaValar1 (6:05:44 PM): go back to Tolkien aye
VardaValar1 (6:06:12 PM): Quickbeam
TurgonjustTurgon (6:06:17 PM): Don't worry about the test Quick, it remains the
same :-)
VardaValar1 (6:06:21 PM): You are listed under Bregalad
VardaValar1 (6:06:24 PM): Still in guild
VardaValar1 (6:06:35 PM): Did you want to be dropped?
VardaValar1 (6:06:45 PM): You were kept because you were seen actively playing
ArPharazonV (6:07:01 PM): or is this another Quickbeam?
VardaValar1 (6:07:52 PM): We only had the one :-)
Alabastadapimp (6:08:32 PM): what
Alabastadapimp (6:08:39 PM): it must be a new one
VardaValar1 (6:08:49 PM): nope
VardaValar1 (6:08:53 PM): No new one
VardaValar1 (6:08:58 PM): Always just one QB
TurgonjustTurgon (6:09:08 PM): Quick, I can't remember ever another quickie but
you
VardaValar1 (6:09:10 PM): New Fladrif
VardaValar1 (6:09:27 PM): My memory goes back farther. Just one QB :-)
ArPharazonV (6:09:55 PM): since... 28 August, 2000
VardaValar1 (6:10:34 PM): Confusion was that in new Activity page, didn't have
the double entry for Bregalad and Quickbeam
VardaValar1 (6:11:24 PM): So, back to Tolkien :-)
ArPharazonV (6:12:00 PM): well, where were we?
ArPharazonV (6:12:13 PM): cartoon vs movie vs book? (rotk)
VardaValar1 (6:12:22 PM): Does your favorite LotR character change between book
and movie? I mean, the one you most enjoy?
(6:12:33 PM) flyingunicorn113 has entered the room.
ArPharazonV (6:13:12 PM): well.... I still say Smeagol should have fallen in the
magma without Frodo helping
VardaValar1 (6:13:48 PM): Hello, unicorn. Do we know you/
ArPharazonV (6:13:49 PM): he was nicely animated, perhaps a littl e
VardaValar1 (6:13:49 PM): ?
ArPharazonV (6:14:05 PM): different from what I had thought.. Aiya, unicorn
flyingunicorn113 (6:14:31 PM): I was told on the website that the meetings start
at 5 o clock and im very intrested in the guild so sorry im late thou
GwaihirValar (6:14:52 PM): 5 o'clock Eastern Time... so 4 Central :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (6:14:57 PM): in that case, welcome to the after meeting :-)
VardaValar1 (6:15:22 PM): Beautiful font!
GwaihirValar (6:15:27 PM): :-)
flyingunicorn113 (6:15:33 PM): I do like it myself
ArPharazonV (6:16:57 PM): looks like another test, Varda :-)
VardaValar1 (6:17:36 PM): Noiw pm'ing about it :-)
GwaihirValar (6:17:48 PM): hehe
ArathornValar (6:17:59 PM): Hmmm.. font looks regular here.. must be the the IM
programming your using :/
ArathornValar (6:18:33 PM): 'The the' being a band from the the 80's <chuckle>
VardaValar1 (6:18:52 PM): Sad, Nice Old English style font
ArathornValar (6:18:59 PM): gack.. mistyping everything today <grumble>
GwaihirValar (6:19:20 PM): probably that Varda's computer has the font while
ouyrs don't... so we don't see it...
ArathornValar (6:19:24 PM): ahh.. you must have it installed on your PC then
Varda.. coincidence
ArathornValar (6:19:40 PM): Indeed, Gwaihir
VardaValar1 (6:19:56 PM): Coincidence hah :-)
ArPharazonV (6:20:25 PM): what, does your pc have every font on the internet?
ArPharazonV (6:20:39 PM): in the world?
ArathornValar (6:20:39 PM): well, I have to go eat some soup and grab some
tylenol ... feeling under the weather.. Namarie for now.. will be back after to
read the posts!
VardaValar1 (6:20:44 PM): hmm, maybe. No, I like OE
VardaValar1 (6:20:50 PM): Tylenol is good
VardaValar1 (6:21:02 PM): Anyone saving?
ArathornValar (6:21:08 PM): just did
ArPharazonV (6:23:23 PM): ... back to Tolkien
(6:23:35 PM) Thorin 7623 has left the room.
GwaihirValar (6:23:47 PM): we wouldn't be Valar if we didn't wander off topic
;-)
ArPharazonV (6:24:21 PM): yes, but there's a difference between going off topic
and going completely silent
GwaihirValar (6:25:07 PM): true
(6:26:26 PM) Thorin 7623 has entered the room.
VardaValar1 (6:26:41 PM): Thanks Arathorn
ArPharazonV (6:27:01 PM): aiyata, thorin
ArPharazonV (6:27:16 PM): did you make it? or is test not over yet?
VardaValar1 (6:27:21 PM): He crashed., still testing. On number two
VardaValar1 (6:27:55 PM): So, did your favorite book character and favorite
movie char stay the same?
(6:30:36 PM) Orodreth V has entered the room.
Orodreth V (6:30:51 PM): Aiya.
Orodreth V (6:30:54 PM): I live.
VardaValar1 (6:30:54 PM): Aiya Orodreth!
VardaValar1 (6:31:08 PM): Looked like everyone went afk
GwaihirValar (6:31:11 PM): hmm... hehe
VardaValar1 (6:31:18 PM): So, did your favorite book character and favorite
movie char stay the same?
ArPharazonV (6:31:34 PM): aiya, oro
ArPharazonV (6:32:35 PM): well, he was every bit of insane and schizo as I
grasped from the books
ArPharazonV (6:32:55 PM): perhaps a little too much...
ArPharazonV (6:33:27 PM): or do you mean, are they actual different characters?
ArPharazonV (6:33:56 PM): so as: in the book Aragorn was my favorite, and in the
movie Gandalf? (purely exampling)
VardaValar1 (6:34:34 PM): Eowyn-V says hi to everybody
GwaihirValar (6:34:41 PM): hey Eowyn :-)
ArPharazonV (6:34:48 PM): hi
VardaValar1 (6:34:56 PM): Aye, book Aragorn and Gandalf movie example
ArPharazonV (6:36:38 PM): ok, in that case... as you by now know, Smeagol was my
favorite in the books... let's see who was my favorite in the movie?
ArPharazonV (6:37:06 PM): Brego? neh...
VardaValar1 (6:37:23 PM): Nice horse :-)
GwaihirValar (6:38:03 PM): Ents were favorites in the movies lol... not nearly
as much so in the books
VardaValar1 (6:38:10 PM): King in book, named after king in movie
GwaihirValar (6:38:10 PM): :-)
VardaValar1 (6:38:21 PM): Ents were fun, aye :-)
VardaValar1 (6:39:51 PM): I liked Ents in book and movies, though
Orodreth V (6:40:00 PM): I only saw the FotR movie. That, and I barely remember
it, so I'll stay out of this one. (sigh of relief)
ArPharazonV (6:40:03 PM): well, I doubt an ent, no matter how fun they were,
would be my actual favorite in the movie... or the book
GwaihirValar (6:40:04 PM): Ents were good in the books, but they were much more
fun in the movies :-)
ArPharazonV (6:40:21 PM): too small a part they had, I think
ArPharazonV (6:42:57 PM): allthough, those with small parts could be one of my
favorites, like the Balrog, or indeed Treebeard
ArPharazonV (6:44:50 PM): and then there was silence...
VardaValar1 (6:45:51 PM): Not on my end. heh. Still testing
ArPharazonV (6:46:17 PM): and the others?
ArPharazonV (6:47:39 PM): one ring to rule them all, one ring to find them
ArPharazonV (6:47:51 PM): one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind
them
VardaValar1 (6:47:53 PM): That's it. Fix them with a poem :-)
GwaihirValar (6:48:18 PM): ooh! The ring was my favorite character... all
shiny... and golden... and beautiful... and... my precious.....
GwaihirValar (6:48:20 PM): ;-)
ArPharazonV (6:48:28 PM): well, just experimenting with the bold, italic and
underline...
ArPharazonV (6:48:54 PM): the road goes ever on and on
ArPharazonV (6:49:00 PM): down from the road where it began
ArPharazonV (6:49:27 PM): now far ahead/away the road has gone
ArPharazonV (6:49:37 PM): and I must follow if I can
ArPharazonV (6:50:08 PM): pursueing it with weary feet
ArPharazonV (6:50:14 PM): how did it continue?
ArPharazonV (6:50:48 PM): man... don't have the books here with me
ArPharazonV (6:51:08 PM): until it joins another way?
ArPharazonV (6:51:30 PM): ah, can't remember...
ArPharazonV (6:51:33 PM): ok, new one
ArPharazonV (6:51:43 PM): Seek the sword that was broken
ArPharazonV (6:51:49 PM): In Imladris it dwells
ArPharazonV (6:51:56 PM): There shall be councils taken
ArPharazonV (6:52:05 PM): Stronger than Morgulspells
ArPharazonV (6:52:14 PM): There shall be shown a token
ArPharazonV (6:52:20 PM): That doom is near at hand
ArPharazonV (6:52:35 PM): For Isildur's Bane shall waken
ArPharazonV (6:52:44 PM): And the Halfling forth shall stand
(6:53:11 PM) Alabastadapimp has left the room.
ArPharazonV (6:53:50 PM): Three rings for the Elvenkings under the sky
ArPharazonV (6:54:04 PM): Seven for the Dwarflords in their halls of stone
ArPharazonV (6:54:44 PM): Nine (rings?) for mortal men, doomed to die
ArPharazonV (6:54:56 PM): One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
ArPharazonV (6:55:13 PM): In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie
ArPharazonV (6:55:31 PM): One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them
ArPharazonV (6:55:42 PM): One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind
them
ArPharazonV (6:55:54 PM): In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie
ArPharazonV (6:58:19 PM): ...
(6:58:42 PM) flyingunicorn113 has left the room.
ArPharazonV (6:58:50 PM): One Game to rule them all, One Game to bind them
ArPharazonV (6:59:12 PM): One Game to bring them all and in the darkness find
them switch bind and find
ArPharazonV (6:59:23 PM): In the land of Azeroth, where the Players die
ArPharazonV (7:00:30 PM): Long live WoW!!
ArPharazonV (7:02:16 PM): The First game for the Orcs and Humans under the sky
ArPharazonV (7:03:16 PM): The Second game for the Elves, Gnomes, Goblins and
Trolls, and the Dwarves in their halls of stone
GwaihirValar (7:03:44 PM): lol
GwaihirValar (7:03:51 PM): short live WoW!
GwaihirValar (7:03:53 PM): long live TFT!
ArPharazonV (7:04:10 PM): The Third Game for the Night Elves, Naga and Tauren,
and the Burning Legion doomed to fry
ArPharazonV (7:04:58 PM): The Last Game for the RPG-er, on his dark throne
ArPharazonV (7:05:16 PM): In the land of Azeroth, where the shadows lie
GwaihirValar (7:05:18 PM): what about the Blood Elves?
GwaihirValar (7:05:19 PM): hmm?
ArPharazonV (7:05:54 PM): One Game to rule them all, One Game to bind them
ArPharazonV (7:06:00 PM): *find them
ArPharazonV (7:06:15 PM): btw, Blood Elves are the Elves from the second game
GwaihirValar (7:06:22 PM): not entirely...
ArPharazonV (7:06:31 PM): just a little socially degraded
GwaihirValar (7:06:34 PM): they're demonically enchanted versions of the High
Elves
GwaihirValar (7:06:44 PM): it's like Orcs vs Orcs that drank from that well
ArPharazonV (7:06:57 PM): and yet, I listed them under Orcs
ArPharazonV (7:07:29 PM): Man, I should save that somewhere... my new poem
ArPharazonV (7:07:50 PM): 'What if LotR would have been written by Blizzard?'
VardaValar1 (7:08:36 PM): nooo
TurgonjustTurgon (7:09:43 PM): eeeeeek
TurgonjustTurgon (7:09:52 PM): that is a really disturbing thought...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:10:03 PM): even though it was written like a year ago :-)
ArPharazonV (7:11:18 PM): what was?
VardaValar1 (7:11:50 PM): Someone's written nearly everything :-)
ArPharazonV (7:11:55 PM): ok, here we go...
ArPharazonV (7:12:10 PM): The First game for the Orcs and Humans under the
skyThe Second game for the Elves, Gnomes, Goblins and Trolls, and the Dwarves in
their halls of stone
ArPharazonV (7:12:19 PM): The Third Game for the Night Elves, Naga and Tauren,
and the Burning Legion doomed to fryThe Last Game for the RPG-er, on his dark
throne
ArPharazonV (7:12:25 PM): In the land of Azeroth, where the Players dieOne Game
to rule them all, One Game to find themOne Game to bring them all and in the
darkness bind themIn the land of Azeroth, where the Players die
ArPharazonV (7:12:42 PM): sure, excuse the lack of seperation between lines
VardaValar1 (7:12:43 PM): Thorin7623 is now Thorin-V! Huzzah!
ArPharazonV (7:12:48 PM): congrats!
TurgonjustTurgon (7:13:51 PM): congrats!
ArPharazonV (7:13:52 PM): but, Turg, this poem can't be written by somebody
else! I just came up with it from pure nothing!
TurgonjustTurgon (7:14:13 PM): hah
TurgonjustTurgon (7:14:31 PM): this has been the longest meeting since, I dunno
when :-)
VardaValar1 (7:14:40 PM): You are in after meeting
VardaValar1 (7:14:51 PM): I have seen them run five hours easy
TurgonjustTurgon (7:14:52 PM): that I know :-)
ArathornValar (7:14:55 PM): Hoohoo!! I'll add you to the AIM list we have of
member IDs :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (7:15:14 PM): I haven't seen 5 hours, but 3-4 I've seen
VardaValar1 (7:15:27 PM): I have :-)
ArPharazonV (7:15:42 PM): and now, we're just over 2... not too long, I think
ArPharazonV (7:16:42 PM): Aftermeetings basically go on and on, until the
channel is empty, or those few who remain are long-term-afk
VardaValar1 (7:16:48 PM): More fun with buddies to chat
VardaValar1 (7:16:54 PM): Right Phar :-)
VardaValar1 (7:17:31 PM): Then it starts over as people come in off work :-)
ArPharazonV (7:17:46 PM): and, with a free Monday, I'm usually one of the last
in the channel in the aftermeeting...
VardaValar1 (7:18:00 PM): Time zones make a difference
VardaValar1 (7:18:04 PM): Anyone in Bnet?
ArPharazonV (7:18:10 PM): that I do not know
VardaValar1 (7:18:11 PM): I've been remiss about checking
TurgonjustTurgon (7:18:16 PM): dunno, I'm on west
VardaValar1 (7:18:17 PM): Orodreth, you live?
VardaValar1 (7:18:19 PM): 'Why?
ArathornValar (7:18:20 PM): I am
VardaValar1 (7:18:33 PM): We default to East for all time zones to meet together
TurgonjustTurgon (7:18:50 PM): I met some great friends on west through Gorbag
VardaValar1 (7:18:59 PM): Orodreth, I didn't see your story in the email
TurgonjustTurgon (7:19:05 PM): you remember he used to come in as Elf-Stone[FG]?
VardaValar1 (7:19:06 PM): varda@sbcglobal.net
VardaValar1 (7:19:10 PM): Yes, I remember
ArPharazonV (7:19:21 PM): I used to have Europe as my default channel
ArathornValar (7:19:31 PM): er.. I was... got booted
VardaValar1 (7:19:58 PM): welcome back
VardaValar1 (7:20:06 PM): Gorbag is no longer shown as active
VardaValar1 (7:20:17 PM): Is he going to rejoin?
ArPharazonV (7:20:30 PM): now, with me playing often with Oro or other another
guildmember, with my best friend in play a member of the Guild, and the other
playing-friends without playingtime, I rarely use another channel besides East
ArPharazonV (7:20:50 PM): Orodreth, that is
VardaValar1 (7:21:05 PM): I try to keep a Varda-Valar on each channel, but only
use East for real play.
ArPharazonV (7:21:19 PM): and my best war3 friend is now known as Fladrif :-)
VardaValar1 (7:21:30 PM): West buddies can be dragged into East. We do it all
the time :-)
VardaValar1 (7:21:38 PM): Very cool
VardaValar1 (7:21:54 PM): I haven't been on much in Bnet, doing webwork so much
TurgonjustTurgon (7:21:56 PM): I haven't seen Gorbag in ages
TurgonjustTurgon (7:22:10 PM): not even on the FG forums
ArathornValar (7:22:11 PM): Well, off to have a lie down... stuffed myself and
gulped some tylenol... may be on bnet later if this headache passes... Namarie
all!
VardaValar1 (7:22:15 PM): Gorbag idled out, didn't answer email
ArPharazonV (7:22:17 PM): ah man... forgot the undead... how could I?
TurgonjustTurgon (7:22:22 PM): I guess he's just too busy with school and work
and stuff
VardaValar1 (7:22:23 PM): Hope you feel better!
VardaValar1 (7:22:26 PM): Thanks for coming
VardaValar1 (7:22:38 PM): Just an email saying he wanted to stay would have done
it
TurgonjustTurgon (7:22:39 PM): Namarie Arathorn
ArPharazonV (7:22:43 PM): namarie, Arathorn
VardaValar1 (7:22:43 PM): Namarie
TurgonjustTurgon (7:22:48 PM): I told him that
VardaValar1 (7:22:59 PM): We tend to just sweep once a year
TurgonjustTurgon (7:22:59 PM): about like 9 months ago
VardaValar1 (7:23:04 PM): Guess he really wanted out
TurgonjustTurgon (7:23:19 PM): not really wanted out, but had no intention of
staying
VardaValar1 (7:23:23 PM): heh
VardaValar1 (7:23:27 PM): Same effect
ArPharazonV (7:23:36 PM): have to adapt my poem... darn!
VardaValar1 (7:23:40 PM): hehe
ArPharazonV (7:23:50 PM): forgot the Scourge!
VardaValar1 (7:24:03 PM): Kind of expected a big lot to join after the movies,
but it stayed about the same
VardaValar1 (7:24:15 PM): Guess the movies didn't affect people that much
ArPharazonV (7:24:59 PM): The Third Game for the Night and Blood Elves, Naga,
Tauren and Burning Legion, and the Scourge doomed never to die
GwaihirValar (7:24:59 PM): I expected a lot to try to join but fail due to only
having exposure to movies...
VardaValar1 (7:25:11 PM): Even that didn't happen
GwaihirValar (7:25:16 PM): I know...
VardaValar1 (7:25:24 PM): Many movie goers read the books after, so that was
good :-)
GwaihirValar (7:26:19 PM): aye
ArPharazonV (7:26:20 PM): I wonder if there were many people, who, after
actually reading the books, decided the movies were better
TurgonjustTurgon (7:26:37 PM): NONE!
ArPharazonV (7:27:09 PM): The human being is an unpredictable creature
VardaValar1 (7:27:22 PM): None what?
Thorin 7623 (7:27:27 PM): i dont know
VardaValar1 (7:27:34 PM): ohh
GwaihirValar (7:27:39 PM): none who liked movies more than books
VardaValar1 (7:27:45 PM): No one thinking movies better than books
VardaValar1 (7:27:55 PM): I heard some say they were
VardaValar1 (7:28:04 PM): Extreme minority :-)
VardaValar1 (7:28:08 PM): Mostly girls ;-)
TurgonjustTurgon (7:28:18 PM): blonde?
GwaihirValar (7:28:20 PM): because Legolas didn't have blond hair in books?
GwaihirValar (7:28:21 PM): lol
VardaValar1 (7:28:25 PM): They liked the blonde
ArPharazonV (7:28:25 PM): ahh... no pictures of Legolas? It's a shame!
Thorin 7623 (7:28:31 PM): the prose tolken used to desripe thescenery left some
of my friends think that the movies were better by a little bit
TurgonjustTurgon (7:28:31 PM): or just average brainsize of a peanut?
VardaValar1 (7:28:39 PM): Get the books with movie pics, fix the problem
GwaihirValar (7:28:51 PM): hehe
VardaValar1 (7:28:54 PM): Some found the journeys tiresome in the books
VardaValar1 (7:29:13 PM): Hey, I'm 50 and I love to look at the movie Legolas
too ;-)
VardaValar1 (7:29:26 PM): so sue me
Thorin 7623 (7:29:33 PM): i prefer eowen
VardaValar1 (7:29:39 PM): Gender difference
ArPharazonV (7:29:51 PM): I prefer Arwen :-D
VardaValar1 (7:29:54 PM): You guys preferred Eowyn over Arwen in looks or
action?
VardaValar1 (7:30:06 PM): Arwen was lovely :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (7:30:06 PM): I prefer Aragorn
ArPharazonV (7:30:08 PM): in looks, definitely Arwen
TurgonjustTurgon (7:30:24 PM): in a no-gay way that is :-D
VardaValar1 (7:30:27 PM): Aragorn was great in those fights : )
Thorin 7623 (7:30:27 PM): in looks i prefer cathy ireland
VardaValar1 (7:30:33 PM): We're talking LotR
Thorin 7623 (7:30:57 PM): yea but those women were too scrawny
VardaValar1 (7:30:58 PM): Who is Cathy Ireland?
VardaValar1 (7:31:05 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (7:31:15 PM): in action... liked Eowyn much better in the books, but
in the movies they're both pretty cool
Thorin 7623 (7:31:22 PM): big model in the 80s
VardaValar1 (7:31:41 PM): I recognize the name, but sorry, can't remember the
lady
GwaihirValar (7:31:44 PM): Eowyn was better looking than Arwen in the movies,
but not so in the books
ArPharazonV (7:32:01 PM): teach Arwen the art of swordfighting, and she's
definitely my favorite
GwaihirValar (7:32:06 PM): I thought anyways...
Thorin 7623 (7:32:07 PM): its a gender difference
VardaValar1 (7:32:08 PM): I really liked the book Eowyn. Not enough about Arwen
to know her well
VardaValar1 (7:32:29 PM): Arwen raised a sword vs nazguls in the movie
VardaValar1 (7:32:44 PM): Most likely, Thorin : )
ArPharazonV (7:33:00 PM): Arwen fighting the Lich-King with Anduril... what more
could one want?
Thorin 7623 (7:33:08 PM): the movies screwed arwen up
GwaihirValar (7:33:12 PM): aye, I agree Varda... Eowyn was more of a deep,
understandable character...
VardaValar1 (7:33:15 PM): A bit more Tolkienish? :-)
GwaihirValar (7:33:19 PM): whereas Arwen was a pampered princess lol
VardaValar1 (7:33:33 PM): The movies were going to make Arwen much more of a
fighter, changed their minds
ArPharazonV (7:33:35 PM): ok, let's get this straight: Books:
GwaihirValar (7:33:42 PM): Thank god they didn't...
VardaValar1 (7:33:45 PM): Aye!!
ArPharazonV (7:33:58 PM): Arwen better in looks, worse in personality and action
VardaValar1 (7:34:00 PM): I liked Arwen with the mind abilities
GwaihirValar (7:34:20 PM): Arwen was only more attractive in the books lol
Thorin 7623 (7:34:35 PM): i have heard that there is supposed to be a making of
the hobbit coming out sometime next year
ArPharazonV (7:34:37 PM): Movies: Arwen better in looks, somewhat equal in
action, and again worse in personality
ArPharazonV (7:34:56 PM): sum it all up, and in general, I like Eowyn just a bit
more
VardaValar1 (7:34:58 PM): Probably not that soon, Thorin. Had a rights problem
Thorin 7623 (7:35:13 PM): have ne of u guys heard ne thing about it
VardaValar1 (7:35:20 PM): I have heard about it
ArPharazonV (7:35:22 PM): yes, I've heard about it
GwaihirValar (7:35:24 PM): Eowyn was beautiful in the movies... Arwen was
attractive... but nothing in comparison...
Thorin 7623 (7:35:27 PM): is it true
VardaValar1 (7:35:36 PM): Not likely to be out that soon
ArPharazonV (7:35:45 PM): hm... I think Arwen had a prettier face
VardaValar1 (7:35:46 PM): Had a rights negotiation problem
GwaihirValar (7:36:00 PM): PJ wants to do Hobbit
Thorin 7623 (7:36:02 PM): o i c
GwaihirValar (7:36:05 PM): but can't get a hold of the rights, last I checked
VardaValar1 (7:36:20 PM): Arwen was supposed to be prettier in the books. I
thought she looked better in the movies too.
VardaValar1 (7:36:41 PM): PJ is doing King Kong now, the project he shelved to
do LotR
VardaValar1 (7:36:48 PM): Give him a rest :-)
ArPharazonV (7:36:53 PM): Arwen was supposed to be almost like Luthien, the most
beautiful of the Children of Eru
VardaValar1 (7:36:58 PM): Aye, Phar
VardaValar1 (7:37:15 PM): Legolas was supposed to be more fair than mortal man,
tough to cast
ArPharazonV (7:37:24 PM): well, Arwen was beautiful in the movies, but I think
they could have done better for that representation...
GwaihirValar (7:37:25 PM): Aye, she was supposed to appear like a slightly
dimniished version of Luthien...
VardaValar1 (7:37:26 PM): After all, have to use a mortal man to play him
Thorin 7623 (7:37:41 PM): like we men need that kind of criticism
VardaValar1 (7:37:46 PM): hehe
GwaihirValar (7:37:48 PM): honestly, I think Liv Tylor did a good job PLAYING
Arwen... but she wasn't all that attractive...
ArPharazonV (7:37:54 PM): but, of course, you need a good actor, yes
ArPharazonV (7:37:58 PM): *actrice
GwaihirValar (7:37:59 PM): she's good looking........ but....
GwaihirValar (7:38:02 PM): I dunno...
GwaihirValar (7:38:08 PM): not THAT attractive...
Thorin 7623 (7:38:15 PM): too scawny
TurgonjustTurgon (7:38:20 PM): in a sense, I thought Galadriel more attractive
lol
ArPharazonV (7:38:27 PM): have any of you seen X-men 1?
VardaValar1 (7:38:31 PM): Yes
Thorin 7623 (7:38:33 PM): yep
GwaihirValar (7:38:50 PM): I've seen X-Men 1... ya
ArPharazonV (7:39:02 PM): I thought the one who played.. what's her name...
Rogue?... was pretty beautiful in that movie
ArPharazonV (7:39:14 PM): haven't seen X-Men 2 though
VardaValar1 (7:39:20 PM): Think she would make a good Arwen? Maybe a bit young
Thorin 7623 (7:39:23 PM): well guys im sorry but i gotta go
VardaValar1 (7:39:27 PM): Well go to Blockbuster and get it!
VardaValar1 (7:39:31 PM): Namarie!
GwaihirValar (7:39:32 PM): cya :-)
ArPharazonV (7:39:37 PM): 'marie
VardaValar1 (7:39:39 PM): Thanks for hanging out with us :-)
Thorin 7623 (7:39:42 PM): namarie
ArPharazonV (7:39:46 PM): nam'
Thorin 7623 (7:39:58 PM): and thanx for making me feel welcome
VardaValar1 (7:40:04 PM): aw come on, just three more keystrokes
VardaValar1 (7:40:09 PM): You are welcome here :-)
ArPharazonV (7:40:13 PM): namarie!!!
ArPharazonV (7:40:19 PM): :-D
TurgonjustTurgon (7:40:22 PM): Namarie!
VardaValar1 (7:40:23 PM): lol
Thorin 7623 (7:40:34 PM): :-D
GwaihirValar (7:40:36 PM): Faretheewell :-)
VardaValar1 (7:40:38 PM): Thanks for putting up with us
Thorin 7623 (7:40:50 PM): my pleasure namarie
GwaihirValar (7:40:51 PM): it can be a chore, I'll bet, for someone not quite as
insane ;-)
GwaihirValar (7:40:58 PM): luckily for us, we all are...
ArPharazonV (7:40:59 PM): you'll get used to us soon, I'm sure you will.. we all
did
GwaihirValar (7:41:02 PM): so no problems there :-)
VardaValar1 (7:41:12 PM): He'll fit in fine :-)
(7:41:15 PM) Thorin 7623 has left the room.
VardaValar1 (7:41:17 PM): Does a good hair joke
TurgonjustTurgon (7:41:24 PM): Varda
VardaValar1 (7:41:26 PM): ?
TurgonjustTurgon (7:41:27 PM): just a question
TurgonjustTurgon (7:41:33 PM): but what is your IQ=
TurgonjustTurgon (7:41:34 PM): ?
VardaValar1 (7:41:36 PM): Not...a question!
VardaValar1 (7:41:40 PM): I don't know
GwaihirValar (7:41:47 PM): I don't rightly know myself lol
VardaValar1 (7:41:55 PM): They wouldn't tell us so we would not compare
VardaValar1 (7:42:02 PM): What brought that up?
GwaihirValar (7:42:02 PM): most people don't know their own...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:42:24 PM): well.... asking because Phar and I did some
online test last week, and we both got above 130 scores
VardaValar1 (7:42:38 PM): Ahh, the tests have changed too
ArPharazonV (7:42:42 PM): I beat him by 2 points :-P
ArPharazonV (7:42:50 PM): ok.. no bragging...
VardaValar1 (7:42:51 PM): And so you compared
GwaihirValar (7:42:58 PM): online tests are usually unreliable...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:43:00 PM): and we theorize that there are several more
people in the Guild who are 130+
VardaValar1 (7:43:03 PM): Perhaps the testers were right
TurgonjustTurgon (7:43:08 PM): we took same test :-)
GwaihirValar (7:43:24 PM): aye, but they're usually unreliable as in they don't
accurately portray IQ...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:43:30 PM): besides, 2nd time I took the same test, I got 129
VardaValar1 (7:43:40 PM): IQ should be the capacity to learn, very difficult to
show
ArPharazonV (7:43:41 PM): indeed, it seems we took the same test, through a
pop-up window, ending with a description of your strengths or something
TurgonjustTurgon (7:43:55 PM): by tickle.com
ArPharazonV (7:44:00 PM): yes, could be
TurgonjustTurgon (7:44:21 PM): apparently I had been making a test of them
before that, because I already had signed in lol
VardaValar1 (7:44:26 PM): hehe
VardaValar1 (7:44:33 PM): Main thing is that you had fun :-)
ArPharazonV (7:44:38 PM): yep, same one
VardaValar1 (7:44:56 PM): So you were hoping I would say um 128?
TurgonjustTurgon (7:45:08 PM): good enough :-)
ArPharazonV (7:45:24 PM): or 150, in that test :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (7:45:26 PM): but if you said you had 140 I wouldn´t be
surprised either lol
VardaValar1 (7:45:32 PM): I really don't know :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (7:45:51 PM): maybe we could make a standardized Valar Guild IQ
test
VardaValar1 (7:46:05 PM): We call it Maia and Vala honor ;-)
VardaValar1 (7:46:25 PM): Trick is to get to take it
TurgonjustTurgon (7:46:26 PM): blondes with brains the size of a peanut not
recommended to take this test in danger of exploding through overheating
VardaValar1 (7:46:50 PM): How about blondes with larger sized brains?
GwaihirValar (7:46:52 PM): I've done a few online tests... genrelaly I get about
140-170
VardaValar1 (7:47:03 PM): There you, bird-brain : )
ArPharazonV (7:47:05 PM): 170? not bad, you genius
VardaValar1 (7:47:18 PM): There you go
GwaihirValar (7:47:26 PM): we birds are just a higher form of life... ;-)
VardaValar1 (7:47:28 PM): Eowyn is blonde
TurgonjustTurgon (7:47:31 PM): dang, that´s like brilliant
VardaValar1 (7:47:38 PM): hehehe, aye Gwaihir
GwaihirValar (7:47:42 PM): 140 is genius, 160 is MENSA...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:47:56 PM): blonde doesn´t necessarily mean they are
stupid....
GwaihirValar (7:48:00 PM): but because they're online tests, I put no actual
stock in them
GwaihirValar (7:48:01 PM): lol
VardaValar1 (7:48:04 PM): : )
GwaihirValar (7:48:15 PM): if I did a NORMAL IQ test and got 170... I'd be
amazed lol
VardaValar1 (7:48:17 PM): Blonde is merely a rare hair color
TurgonjustTurgon (7:48:31 PM): but in the case of my sister (who has painted her
hair) it´s obviously artificial attempt of intelligence
VardaValar1 (7:49:06 PM): I think I'll go back to work on the Poetry page, to
get it up this Millenium
ArPharazonV (7:49:17 PM): hm... blond... hm...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:49:21 PM): need any help to sort things=
VardaValar1 (7:49:23 PM): Only to Maglor, hope to finish Turgon tonight
TurgonjustTurgon (7:49:23 PM): ?
TurgonjustTurgon (7:49:34 PM): dang keyboard got keys all mixed up again :-(
VardaValar1 (7:49:49 PM): Turgon's poetry :-)
VardaValar1 (7:50:07 PM): I am separating out each poem, listing characters
VardaValar1 (7:50:13 PM): making author pages
ArPharazonV (7:50:21 PM): blond, darker blond, brown, blond, dark brown/black,
brown
VardaValar1 (7:50:23 PM): Same way as I did Story page
VardaValar1 (7:50:32 PM): black
VardaValar1 (7:50:36 PM): Blue-black
VardaValar1 (7:50:41 PM): red, auburn
VardaValar1 (7:50:47 PM): Hungarian red
ArPharazonV (7:50:56 PM): you have now idea what I'm talking about, are you?
VardaValar1 (7:50:56 PM): Why are we doing hair colors? : )
ArPharazonV (7:50:59 PM): *no
VardaValar1 (7:51:20 PM): Not poetry, for sure
ArPharazonV (7:51:37 PM): actually I was summarizing the haircolors of girls
I've been in love with
TurgonjustTurgon (7:51:38 PM): could make for a wonderful poem for a hairdresser
though 8-)
VardaValar1 (7:51:48 PM): Wasn't love, dear boy
VardaValar1 (7:51:52 PM): aye : )
TurgonjustTurgon (7:52:13 PM): the girls I have been in love with.....
ArPharazonV (7:52:14 PM): well, for as far as I know, it got pretty close
sometimes
TurgonjustTurgon (7:52:24 PM): most important of them that they were they
VardaValar1 (7:52:26 PM): Might have : )
ArPharazonV (7:52:56 PM): but the first thing in the looks of a girl that
attracts my eye, is hair... color or style
VardaValar1 (7:53:02 PM): I was in strong Like a few times, but with Fangorn it
was Love : )
TurgonjustTurgon (7:53:41 PM): I still don´t understand love.... and I probably
never will....
VardaValar1 (7:53:44 PM): Hair? Really? Amazing
VardaValar1 (7:53:47 PM): Give it time
ArPharazonV (7:54:07 PM): hm?
GwaihirValar (7:54:13 PM): nobody ever understands love
TurgonjustTurgon (7:54:18 PM): no it´s just that twice already I have thought I
really loved a girl and while it didn´t pass, I still found others
ArPharazonV (7:54:39 PM): each of those girls has never fully left my heart
VardaValar1 (7:54:39 PM): When would you say someone understood it?
ArPharazonV (7:55:00 PM): each time I meet any of them, I get strong feelings
again... and no, not physical
GwaihirValar (7:55:04 PM): if you understand something... you can explain it...
and love is impossible to truly explain....
VardaValar1 (7:55:22 PM): Love is a manifestation from God.
GwaihirValar (7:55:39 PM): *chuckles* that explanation goes exactly nowhere to
an atheist ;-)
VardaValar1 (7:55:42 PM): You can have strong feelings for family too
VardaValar1 (7:55:45 PM): Tough : )
GwaihirValar (7:55:48 PM): :-)
ArPharazonV (7:56:18 PM): not like that, Varda, thank the gods not like that
VardaValar1 (7:56:26 PM): I'll leave you to your ruminations
VardaValar1 (7:56:39 PM): heh
(7:56:44 PM) VardaValar1 has left the room.
TurgonjustTurgon (7:57:08 PM): she does have a point though
GwaihirValar (7:57:22 PM): Love comes in many forms...
GwaihirValar (7:57:35 PM): the love for a friend... the love for family... and
then there is 'romantic love'...
TurgonjustTurgon (7:57:36 PM): like with me and Megs
ArPharazonV (7:57:41 PM): love is not just something you think you feel for
members of the opposite sex, in terms of desiring a relationship
GwaihirValar (7:57:42 PM): or myself and Kelsha
TurgonjustTurgon (7:57:49 PM): yup
GwaihirValar (7:58:00 PM): I deeply and truly love her... but I have literally
no romantic inclinations towards her...a nd honestly, I never have
ArPharazonV (7:58:18 PM): or, any sex for that matter... I'm tolerant :-)
GwaihirValar (7:58:31 PM): Romantic Love... that's what I have for Emma...
ArPharazonV (7:59:10 PM): I've asked myself... am I truly capable of Romantic
Love, or is it nothing but obsession?
TurgonjustTurgon (7:59:13 PM): (whom I´m going to steal by sneaking off to
england prior to Sean´s vacation)
GwaihirValar (7:59:31 PM): Phara... everyone is capableo f romantic love...
Bomburv (7:59:35 PM): ca caw
GwaihirValar (7:59:50 PM): Turg, no way could you ever steal you... she'd kill
you before she let you take her from me
GwaihirValar (7:59:54 PM): steal her*
GwaihirValar (7:59:56 PM): blah...
TurgonjustTurgon (8:00:05 PM): heh
TurgonjustTurgon (8:00:12 PM): you should know me better by now
TurgonjustTurgon (8:00:20 PM): 1)
ArPharazonV (8:00:23 PM): am I Gwai? am I? ah well, we'll see
TurgonjustTurgon (8:00:25 PM): I like to joke around
GwaihirValar (8:00:47 PM): Turg, while that was honest, it was also said with a
joking tone(what I said :-))
GwaihirValar (8:01:00 PM): I know you fairly well, but the best way to reply was
that :-)
TurgonjustTurgon (8:01:09 PM): GAH!
TurgonjustTurgon (8:01:15 PM): got steamed myself
(8:01:21 PM) ArathornValar has left the room.
TurgonjustTurgon (8:01:22 PM): good job Gwai
GwaihirValar (8:01:23 PM): lol
ArPharazonV (8:01:29 PM): the true test would come when I'm actually dating, and
the efforts I make will remain sincere.... but I haven't had a girlfriend in
over 4 years, and that time I screwed up big time
TurgonjustTurgon (8:01:42 PM): heh Phar
TurgonjustTurgon (8:01:50 PM): I haven´t had a gf in 13 years
TurgonjustTurgon (8:02:01 PM): and the last one I had was back when I was 1