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Dec. 31, 2003
Happy New Year's Eve!
D2X Ladder banks:
We have quite a few bank ladder characters
that are about to be deleted by B.net for lack of use. Any volunteers
to put in some time would be welcome! Thanks to the folks who've given
warnings and those who have been rebuilding deleted banks, as well as
the ones putting in time.
Dec. 28, 2003
New idea from Ulfang-(V)!:
Sunday Meeting 5pm EST, 22:00
GMT AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
There are quite a number of things that are going on, all of which
I'd love to be more interested in (if it weren't for my job; I
an investment bank in New York so my hours have been horrible, plus,
I'm now engaged so wedding plans take a front seat to Tolkien).
hard for me to add anything to the list....
Although here's an idea...
My fiance and I both enjoy Tolkien, and we were actually thinking
having our wedding bands inscripted with tengwar writing. (The
joke is that while my ring will say 'I love you' and so on, hers will
say 'One Ring to rule them all') We've seen a couple of places on
web where one can get this, but if anyone else knows where to get
customized Tolkien jewelry, i think that would be nice.
Thanks once again,
Meeting Transcript, by Arathorn-V. Summary below:
Attending: report by Thror-(V) and Varda
AIM group (14): Akhoril, Arathorn,
Ar-Pharazon, Caranthir, Elatan, Galdor, Gil-galad, Gwaihir, Huan,
Orodreth, Osse, Thorondor, Thror, Varda (presiding)
Change of meeting format:
Discussion of changing meeting format. News page
does not need to be repeated, have folk check News before the meeting
gets rolling, then tell any new business. Then switch to Tolkien chat
Reason to change format: News repeat is a repeat.
Many are not in the same games, so much of the gaming details will be
irrelevant to many, and may be handled better on the Message Board aka
Forum. Europe has short time to be in chat.
Reason to change to AIM: Guild now is across many
games, quite a few don't game at all, and we need a way to meet live.
Eonwe went to see RotK during meeting time.
The movies are very helpful to those who test, besides being fun.
Elatan made two longbows plus arrows and a
quiver, in real life.
Arathorn's Java problem: The .toUppercase
property of an object won't work with an array. He needs a workaround
for the problem and none of us could help. Please email Arathorn.
Tolkien: (details in transcript)
Many were coming and going from the Return of
the King movie, two during the meeting, and a few had not seen it
so we tried to keep talk to the books.
Chat topic by Varda: Friendship in the books.
Chat topic by Thror: Spiders and Dark Lords
Suggested topic for another time: Orodreth fishing
for WoS help: Did elves use money of any sort? Did they barter?
Dec. 26, 2003
New banks made, will need to be
played up. Gems, Rares, Runes, Uniques. Help needed!
Dec. 25, 2003
Dec. 24, 2003
New page: Quick AIM -
lists AIM screen names of full and Tolkien-only members, plus
information on how to get and use AIM for meetings. Found on the guild
index under Members and on the Activity page.
Half-Life and especially HF's CounterStrike players,
please note that you can get together on the Message Board Forum. You
also need to list that you like to play with Eonwe's Games page. Also,
please send Varda your CounterStrike Valar guild name for the Activity
page and so that you can find each other.
Dec. 22, 2003
Paladin Took-V, Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Paladin found us from the web site, doing a search for Tolkien and
Blizzard. He stayed around our channel a while trying to join, until
some of our kindly members suggested he email Varda. His outside
character is Berolsar, account SWRPG. He's 20, from Nevada, USA in the
PST. He's online nightly, preferring SC/BW, but also playing D2X, WC2,
and WC3. He's read the H and LotR. His favorite LotR character is
Aragorn. His email is Protoss72000@hotmail.com, his AIM is
Thorondor just set the bar high
for all of us D2X Ladder players. He went Hardcore! His paladin is 67
and still alive! More info such as account name for it etc on the D2X
Ladder page. Still, that means we have a lot of new player slots for
hardcore with no record, so a level one has a chance!
still has the highest overall standing.
Dec. 21, 2003
Sunday Meeting 5:00pm EST, 22:00 GMT
Meetings are held on AIM (AOL Instant
Messenger) in chat room Valar Guild Meetingplace.
We have helpers in channel Clan Vala, and you can still receive credit
for showing up if you are listed by a roll taker on Bnet. According to
Eonwe, today's meeting was held in Bnet due to the lack of people
showing up in AIM who weren't also on Bnet.
You can enter the chat room in a couple of ways. You
can invite yourself or make the chat room, much like making a channel
in B.net, by sending a chat invitation to your screen name (not display
name), typing in Valar Guild Meetingplace as the chat room name. The
chat room will come up. Then choose "no" when the box asks if you wish
to accept the invitation, or it will make another chat room of the same
name and wind up nowhere.
To invite another member to the chat, use the menu
from the chat room (not the buddy list) to automatically give the
correct chat room name. Invite the person's screen name, not the
AIM can be downloaded free from www.aim.com
. Please make a screen name using your guild name so we can recognize
you for the roll to give you proper credit. If you already have a
screen name, you can use that, but you can also add a "new" screen
name. This is done as if you never had a screen name before, but when
it comes back up, you'll see a drop down list of your old screen names
and your new one.
Please email Varda your AIM screen name for the
meeting. Please also mention the screen name for general use if you use
another one normally but would like it to be contacted by guild
members. If you want the outsider screen name kept private for helping
attempts to find you during inactivity sweeps, tell Varda so it won't
be listed on the Activity page.
Any AIM names Varda is aware of will be listed on
the Activity page, unless told differently.
Attending: roll taken by Thorondor-(Valar)
(also has been playing during the week)
Dior: Seen before meeting (by Eonwë)
Also on AIM:
Varda (I) was going to apologize for missing
but no, I'll say Woot! instead. I'm going to see Return of the King
with Eowyn-(V) and a
friend, so you guys have fun talking Tolkien without me. :) I'll
try to drop in late or after-meeting. Someone please email meeting
Erestor sends greetings, having to work
during the meeting.
inactivity, group 2: You can reapply before January
without a test, or rejoin after January with a test. Please email Varda.
Elenwe (left, nice
letter, not gaming or following Tolkien now)
Finrod Felagund (email
undeliverable, no contact since July 2002)
undeliverable, no contact since July 2002)
undeliverable, no contact since January)
undeliverable <email@example.com>. No
contact since 2002)
Dec. 20, 2003
WC3/TFT meeting 1pm EST channel Clan Vala.
Gwaihir had to be at work.
any clan member who has registered an e-mail address with
WC3 can be contacted through 'clanmail'... allowing you to contact at
least me (I registered mine) over bnet when I'm not online.
Dec. 17, 2003
Battle Hymn", by Turgon-(V)
ode to themselves", by Turgon-(V)
Elatan, Happy 40th Birthday! He's
heading out for Christmas vacation and should be back around the 22nd.
Dec. 14, 2003
Saddam was captured Saturday. Photos, DNA tests
Heart", by Laurelin Caline, Tolkien member. The words of those
who went into battle against Sauron, supporting Elendil and Gil-galad.
Sunday Meeting: 5:00pm EST, 22:00 GMT, on
AIM, Valar Guild Meetingplace, with helpers in the Battlenet channels.
transcript in AIM, sent in by Arathorn-V from the time he entered
the chat room. Great idea, Arathorn!
AIM: member name: AIM name for your list
Clan Vala channel only: Beleg-V. He said his AIM is
Eonwe and Erestor are at work.
Members dropped so far, activity sweep still in
Amroth, Beorn, Beorn, Bolg, Celebrimbor.
Tolkien Encyclopedia/ Poetry page: "Brave Heart" by
Laurelin Caline, Tolkien member.
Message Board: New trivia section started.
Arathorn is leading the guild with an
Osse promoted to shaman!
Christmas tourney proposed. May also
have all game gaming during the holidays.
Lord of the Rings:
Co-op LotR Board game. Hobbits
try to reach Mt. Doom before corruption points reach 10.
Created by Reiner Knizia. Co-op, so no competitive issues.
Upcoming Return of the King movie discussion.
Earendil: How were Ents involved in the history of
Varda: Helm's Deep, Orthanc
Earendil: Helped Beren vs dwarves.
Gwaihir: Doriath. And Entwives
taught Men to farm.
Thror suggests as a future topic: House of Play.
Dec. 13, 2003
Promotion! Osse became a shaman in
WC3/TFT branch today at the meeting. He will be able to handle the
gavel at WC3/TFT meetings, full guild meetings in Battlenet, and Vala
flag incoming branch members. Osse is already a Maia honor, so he can
test entry. He joins Gwaihir and Draugluin in the Maiar shaman list. A
person doesn't have to be a Maia to be a shaman, but he does need to be
able to communicate with Chieftain Eonwe and play the game.
The meeting was at 1pm, channel Clan Valar, Eonwe
presiding. Osse accepted the shaman job. Sauron got his Vala flag.
Varda was also present. Thror came by just as the meeting closed.
Ancalagon, although in WC3, seemed to be afk in the other channel, as
was Orodreth's Halmundo.
WC3/TFT Christmas Gaming: from Eonwe:
We would like to try a Christmas Tournament, not on
Christmas of course :} but on the Sunday before Christmas, next Sunday
the 21st. If you would like there to be a tournament you need to
repond to me or Gwaihir immediately. At least 8 people excluding
judges must be willing to meet for this or its no go. This was
announced at the end of November on the Valar Guild Message Board (find
the link on the Main Page. You remember where that is, right?
:}). If you haven't signed up yet, it's a good idea to. The
sooner you guys get talking on it the sooner it'll become a bustling
hub of Valarness :} We've got about 27 of us (total Valar Guild
members) already, and at least most of the new members are
already on board.
Aragorn says hello. He's been out due to
internet connection difficulties. Lately he's been playing in D2:LoD
Europe. He hopes to make tomorrow's meeting.
Erestor will be at work during tomorrow's
meeting. He hopes to be on earlier that day burning in more D2X Ladder
Hello letter from Bain and Cirdan:
Sorry we have dropped off the map. The two of us were relying on a satellite broadband connection for gaming that
was extremely dibilitating due to a huge latency. Quickly dying in every game we played, we opted to retire to the
green hills of Southfarthing. Recently I ditched the satellite connection (because DSL became available in our
area). BTW, if you are ever faced with the choice between a Hughes Direcway Satellite and stepping outside to send
smoke signals, choose the tried and true blanket and fire method! We would love to get back into to loop after the
Dropped for inactivity:
You can reapply before January without a test, or rejoin after January
with a test. Please email Varda.
disabled, no contact all year.
undeliverable, no contact all year.
Beorn: all people who say
they are a Beorn will have to rejoin under another name and will not be
considered members until then. None replied to the Eonwe email in Sept
and none have shown any activity since. All the emails I sent Dec12
came back undeliverable.
Bolg: email undeliverable, no
contact all year.
undeliverable, no contact all year. Gwaihir had contact, says
Celebrimbor's no longer interested.
Dec. 12, 2003
Letter from Eonwe:
Activity Sweep: Those who didn't
respond to Eonwe's games email in September and have
no recent activity mentioned need to contact me to keep from being
dropped for January. Those
who have nothing listed after Eonwe's games email are questionable as
being active. If you see a question mark by your name's active status
on the Activity
2003 page or just to make sure, then please email Varda.
Please sign with your guild name!
Just thought I'd let you know I won't be able to make the meeting
Sunday. One of our shift managers quit (this place seems to be
rough on management, hehe), leaving just me and my main manager (like
it was most of the semester during school), and so she could attend a
family Christmas thing I went ahead and said I'd close for her.
Hope you have fun. I assure you I'll be wishing I was there :}
I will be sending out emails to help you get
in contact, but emails are
not always updated properly (a dropped "n" on verizon in the address
recently prevented an email from going through) or have weirdnesses
preventing them from going
through, and some of you don't have emails. Beor has no email.
Some ways of showing documentable activity:
Come to a meeting for at
least a few minutes to have your name on the Attending rolls on the
WC3 players in the Clan Vala branch
will show up on the clan profile showing when they were last in
the Clan Vala channel.
Anything that puts you on the News
page: emails, articles for the Tolkien Encyclopedia or the Gaming
D2X ladder page participant with a
Web page for the guild.
The new Activity page for 2004 will show who
is still in the guild in January. If you seem to have been dropped for
inactivity, email Varda if you want to rejoin, then try to make some
form of monthly contact afterwards.
Dec. 10, 2003
Letter from Gwaihir:
you CAN invite yourself into a chat. if you know the name
of the chatroom, that is.
In another letter from Gwaihir:
All you have to do is type your name in stead of someone else's into
the section where it asks you to type who you want to invite... and
type the name of the room into the appropriate spot and then push
invite. It'll open up the chatroom and you'll be in it
You can invite yourself into an AIM chatroom. You just type
your name in stead of someone else's into the "Screen names to invite"
section and the chatroom you wish to go to into the "Buddy Chat Room"
spot. Then push invite and the chatroom will pop up and miraculously
enough, you'll be in it
Dec. 9, 2003
By the Sword
- medieval and fantasy swords, clothing, collectibles. Second URL
Squelch button exercise again.
Woohooimback@Azeroth says he's the old Calvin, leafieslover, back in
the Valar channel being nasty saying the same old same old. Another
account being used for ugly remarks, probably shared by Calvin and a
guild member, is
Mr.Aznpanda@Azeroth. He plays with Buntcake@Azeroth,
Someonewhocares@Azeroth, and Quickbeam-V@Azeroth. The first two are
outside names for guild folk.
Dec. 7, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East, channel Clan Valar,
5:00pm EST, 22:00 GMT
Attending: report from Thror and Varda
Members: Arathorn, Bombur, Caranthir,
Earendil, Eonwe/Fionwe, Erestor, Galdor, Gil-galad, Gwaihir, Orodreth,
Thorondor/Sorontar, Thror, Tilion, Varda (presiding)
Guest: Virtuous (joined guild after meeting
Welcome to the Valar Guild, Grimbold-V! Grimbold
is 23, from Illinois in the US, CST. He plays D2:LoD and WC3/TFT. He is
on bnet daily. He's read the H and LotR. He's learning about being a
veterinarian. Galdor scouted, Earendil and Varda tested for a 5/5.
After the main meeting, we tried an experiment to
see if we could meet in AIM. This was more successful than any other
non-Bnet chat we've done especially with so little preparation time.
This could really be a way to go, and let non-Bnet gamers and
Tolkien-only members join in much better. Several of us added our guild
names to our AIM accounts. AIM seems to be safer for us than ICQ or
IRC, and most found it available.
Tolkien fonts may be found at
www.barrowdowns.com/fonts/Quenya.ttf. Put them in
c:/windows/fonts and that's it.
The main problem seems to be that we seem to need
someone to do an invitation. Ask someone already in AIM chat for an
invitation, or someone at Bnet. Although afk, we tend to check back on
Bnet and scroll. Also, we can add a shortcut in some versions, to
Valar Guild Meetingplace.
Varda will be adding AIM names to the Activity page.
Please send yours in or correct what I have up.
Gwaihir: Herald Tantrus
Middle-earth Online section
added by Eonwe, with a discussion section for suggestions on how to set
up the guild branch when it comes out late 2004. We have to be
positioned to jump in fast with a guild branch and go for it. :)
Sierra has a message board for Middle-earth online,
but it doesn't accept free email account registrations. To handle this,
we might try using Yahoo email, as it is hard to tell if it is paid or
not. This could help some of us who are not in possession of large
amounts of gold.
Top score is now 78 for
Ladder bank: Due to the
incredible work of such members as Erestor, Galdor, Fangorn, and Varda,
the Ladder banks are being burned in despite the time requirements.
Great work, all! So, more are being added. *Collective groan from
Thror, for a report he has to give tomorrow,
asked how long Gollum was in the cave.
Gwaihir was fastest at finding the reference:
Appendix B: The Tale of Years. Gollum entered the Misty Mountains in
2470, then left to search for the "thief" 2944. That makes it 474
years. Stretched life indeed!
As a side comment, twins Elrohir and Elladan were
111 years older than sister Arwen. Interesting number, eh Bilbo?
Dec. 1, 2003
D2X Ladder Bank:
We have some accounts up with
storage characters, but many will need to be run a bit to stay up.
After enough of these look secure, we can start others.
Nov. 30, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East, channel Clan
Vala, 5:00pm EST, 22:00 GMT
Arathorn, Beleg, Caranthir, Eonwe, Erestor,
Orodreth, Thorondor, Varda (presiding)
Caranthir is reading the Iliad for homework. We
should all be so lucky!
Eonwe has re-done most of it in HTML,
taking up less space and for fun. Beats using Word!
The page may have to go defunct due to
low info input from guild.
Ladder Bank page up.
D2X guild ladder:
Legolas is ahead with 74!
We had 5 people in the same game
today. Felt like old times!
D2X Middle-earth mod: (bless
Elrohir and Fingolfin!) report from Eonwe, after playing it
Old charcters are ok.
Inventory is about 3 rows bigger!
Can overwrite old mod files.
Easier to get running. Use .bat file,
no file switching.
Orodreth's unofficial Valar server is
back up and running! Same pass.
F'nok is an old friend of Orodreth's
from WoS, also has a good guild. His comments are on the Message Board
under WoS. You have registered for the Message Board, right?
Arathorn and Erestor as well as Varda
said they'd like to get into this MORPG after it comes out, probably
late next year.
It will be a memory hog and need a good
video card. We hope to have improved comps by then.
It begins just after the Fellowship
leave Moria, having stirred up Barrow-Wights and Moria baddies in their
wake. If there is to be a home for them to return to, we'd better take
care of the mess! Later installments will have the Fellowship
moving farther along the Quest, causing more ruckus for us to handle.
We will continue to have our primary
names from Tolkien characters, but will have to doctor them for this
game. We can't have our Aragorn actually play Aragorn and then bump
into the one in the online game, etc. So we can add on words, perhaps
elven or other Tolkien languages, perhaps appropriate to the class. For
instance in Dark Age of Camelot, one character is GafferSong. Our guild
will have the back story that we are a group that believes the Valar
exist, bringing a higher (or lower, in Morgoth's case) octave to our
play. We will continue to adhere to the philosophy of fair play,
courtesy, and honesty as Tolkien would have preferred from those who
honor his ideals. We intend to have a presence on the Middle-Earth
Online forum. In the Message Board, we already have a thread started
under Other Games, and could set up a separate section for handling
such sticky problems as naming and types of compware needed.
Varda's topic: Loyalty as shown in
Erestor: Loyal to what? Ideas? Person? Thing?
Eonwe: Boromir was loyal to the Fellowship although
he fell to the Ring. He gave his life for Merry and Pippin.
Thorondor: Were Melkor's creatures truly loyal to
him? His Maiar were.
Erestor: continued trying to define "loyalty"
Eonwe: Loyalty and faithfulness
Varda: Sam was like loyalty personified, as Aragorn
Erestor: Legolas and Gimli: sense of loyalty
Erestor: Gimli loyal to Galadriel
Orodreth: Merry and Pippin: loyal to their
Erestor: Shadowfax loyal to Gandalf
Tangents: Free will, choice, can good and evil exist
without each other? Nature of light and dark and color. Black holes,
spectra. Computers we first met. Why some people consider our games
bad, and where they have a point. Computer addiction. What parents can
do. Moderation needed in all things. We will continue gaming.
:) Wootz is a real word, for Damascus steel, which people have
only recently re-learned the technique for making. For more detailed
info, try a Google search for wootz, or http://www.brisa.fi/wootz3.html
After meeting: D2X tip from Galdor, seen on
D2.net, Griswold in nightmare can give stuff as good or nearly as good
as any boss up to Baal.
Nov. 25, 2003
Eonwe re-made the whole page,
this time using HTML. Take a look (use Explorer) and be sure to update
your info. Congrats, Eonwe!
Nov. 23, 2003
Sunday Meeting 5:00pm
EST, 22:00 GMT: Battlenet East Realm, channel Clan Vala
ArathornL-V, Ar-Pharazon-V@Azeroth, Earendil-Valar@Azeroth,
Eonwe-(Valar), Faramir-V@Azeroth, Gwaihir-Valar, Orodreth-V,
Thorondor-Valar, Varda-(Valar) (presiding)
Over the shoulder
Farmer Maggot's CD is broken, so he came to the
meeting by AIM and spoke with Arathorn for relay.
Gil-galad hopes to be in the channel in the coming
week between family get-togethers.
"You know you're in Valar when..." joke from Galdor.
Thanksgiving Tourney! This
coming Thursday at 4:30pm EST. 1 on 1 pvp planned. If enough people
show up, teams can play. A Tourney thread is available on the Message
Board. You can add to the post with whether or not you plan to show or
if you will be 5 minutes late. You can also get together for practice
every Saturday 1pm EST in channel Clan Vala for planning and gaming.
The guild needs your WC3/ TFT Tolkien-based maps. WC3 art tools are
available for download.
D2X guild Ladder:
Our ladder gaming is more like regular
friendly gaming, but we use the ladder characters and special traits
provided by Blizzard.
Legolas currently has the highest standing at 73. He stopped leveling
waiting for a guild team in Hell difficulty, and started other ladder
characters. (Only in Valar "competition"...) We have a Ladder
page listing our standings. It's main use is to see who we can play
with, but it's also slightly competitive. We have a highest overall
standing and highest class standing. It's updated when Varda meets you
and remembers to jot down your name and level and doesn't lose the
note. A better update system is to email Varda regularly as a habit
with updates. This can be after making a particular goal level, or on a
particular day. You can also mention the name and level of fellow
ladder guild folk to give them credit too. Without guild input, this
page cannot work.
Ladder bank: We had a request for
a ladder bank. When Blizzard changes the ladder accounts to regular,
the ladder mathoms can be unloaded into the regular banks. The old
ladder banks would then be deleted and new ones started for the new
ladder. Those few present thought a Ladder bank was a good idea.
We've had one dissenting voice saying it didn't seem
to fit the idea of a ladder. True, but we are not really competing. We
have too many ways of gaining levels. Some of us play in public games
and others wouldn't touch a public game with the tip of even the
longest halbard. We have varying amounts of time we can play, some much
less than others. Some play mostly solo, often due to time of day, and
others have buddies they tend to play with. Many of us play with
whomever happens to be around, as we're all good company. So we have
some thoughts on doing an actual competing ladder, but sufficient guild
interest didn't seem to be present.
The Two Towers Extended DVD is available. Some
members reported that they were glad they bought it for the extra
scenes put back in . Faramir-Valar reports that the Faramir character
now seems more like a good guy.
The Collector's Set includes a Gollum statue and
book, so it depends on whether you want them or not as to whether you
should pay the high price for that set.
Topics developing as tangents of the DVD discussion:
the Valar set up Bilbo's finding of the Ring?
influence is shown subtly in the Lord of the Rings, occasionally
obvious. It is much more noticeable after reading the Silmarillion and
Feanor a good guy, bad guy, grey, or something else?
This took a great deal of thought to answer,
but we had some thinkers available. :) A few of the
Feanor was a good guy brought low by Morgoth's malice. Feanor was proud.
Something appeared bad in him with the death of his mother and
remarriage of his father. Thought of himself as the only true Noldor
prince, instead of Fingolfin and Finarfin, the "half-bloods".
- Feanor buried himself in his work, began to care only about
that and his father. He was his father's favorite in many ways.
On the whole, he's a bad guy, but he has many attributes appropriate
for an elf of his stature.
Feanor refused to give up the silmarilis before he heard they were
Feanor truly was heir to the kingship of the Noldor.
Feanor didn't seem to consider his half-brothers as true princes. The
strongest sin of all, pride.
Some discussion on semantics: pride can be good when
it's reasonable confidence. Arrogance is overbearing pride, even if it
has a basis. Hubris. General agreement that excessive pride was a major
started a list of characters whose pride caused them to use their power
for evil and who were at the tops of their types. Others in the
channel, after understanding the qualifications, agreed and added to
it, with comments on why these characters fit. Melkor, Feanor,
Pharazon. Additions suggested were Saruman, Sauron and Turin. Boromir
was considered not to fit the list, although proud, as his main desire
was for Gondor rather than himself, although he expected to inherit the
Stewardship of Gondor. Sauron was iffy for the list as well, as Eonwe
might have been the top of the Maiar, and he, although proud, mainly
worked for Morgoth rather than himself.
Gollum did not fit. There was some discussion on
whether he started out evil or not. He was certainly no Frodo!
Another tangent was about those opposite to the
arrogant people. Faramir (brought up because of the movies and DVD's)
was the nearest human in Middle-earth to being like Aragorn.
mentioned another parallel of quite a few people who were just below
top person. Unfortunately this was not jotted down, and it would be
great if Eonwe adds this to the Message Board under Tolkien!
Nov. 22, 2003
Congrats to Oropher-(V), for reaching the top
level in EverQuest of 65. Good luck with your Alternate Advancements
meeting in Clan Vala 1pm East. Planning and gaming. It's a
get-together to game even when no formal meeting is held.
Nov. 20, 2003
New Links for Links page:
Aragorn and Legolas
- The Mellon Chronicles -
fan-fic, intended to be clean as in no smut/ slash. Articles. Maps.
Name generator. Shop. .
War of the Ring
- Tolkien fan site, books and movies. Includes a list of Tolkien sites.
I'll most likely see you in the channnel next week - that actually
depends on what time my family get togethers are. I am
sorry I havent
been to any meetings in a while, busy schedule like Eonwe said.
Nov. 19, 2003
WarCraft3/The Frozen Throne: Thanksgiving Tourney
Chieftain Eonwe excerpt:
Remember that we have a
weekly gathering scheduled at 1 pm Eastern Time
(Valar Standard Time) every Saturday for WC3/TFT.
Even if no formal
meeting is held, this is prime time to be getting together
The WC3 art tools are now available for anyone to
download. Check them
out if you're an interested mapmaker.
I also want to remind everyone we still need Tolkien-Themed
maps. Doesn't necessarily have to have quests.
If you just wanted to
make a WC3 version of one of our Starcraft Tourney maps
(like Bridges of
Osgiliath for example) that's perfectly fine. The
page linked from the Games Page has more suggestions and
styles for tourney maps. These maps will typically be
computer, competing for best time, but that doesn't rule
out a creative
mind who wants to make, say, collectiing part of the map
Last, but not least, we are scheduling a fun one on one
person vs person
tournament to be
held on Thanksgiving (next Thursday).
expected to be honorable as always. Replays of each
battle may be
requested. I and Gwaihir for sure will be outside the
tourney (I.e not
participating in it) as judges. More info to come, so
expect some of it
to be given when you get there :} It's appreciated if
we could know who
would like to participate (so we know if we have enough for
tournament), but anyone who shows up in Clan Vala with
suit next Thursday will not be turned away.
Time? 4:30 Valar Standard Time.
Prizes? Well, we'll have to see,... :}
Nov. 17, 2003
"You know you're
in Valar when..." page: new joke by Galdor-V!
Nov. 16, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet
East, 5:00 pm EST, 22:00 GMT, channel Clan Vala:
Arathorn, Ar-Pharazon, Elrond, Eonwe,
Erestor, Galdor, Haldir, Legolas, Theoden, Thror, Varda (presiding)
birthday is Nov 29, when he'll be 28. Congrats!
comp and economic problems. Expects to return so please keep his name.
story: Eonwe doesn't have time to work on it now. Perhaps we
could run a non-official one on the Message Board.
New page: D2X
Ladder for guild, helping us get together and see how we're
doing. Bnet can't show us as we're mostly too low.
Gaming tip from Galdor:
To keep the game from
dropping your character when you need to be afk (transfer aid, mom
called you for a chore, etc) type /fps to keep the character active.
This can also be used during a game to track your ping. It means frames
per second. The same thing with more detail may be accomplished by
Updates may be emailed to Varda on all
your D2X ladder players, even level one. Top characters may be sent to
Eonwe for a mention in the new Games page with the same email.
Varaya and Khan (aka Elrohir and
Fingolfin in the guild) have already made a Tolkien mod (1.9) for the
new Battlenet patch (1.10), incorporating some of the changes they had
intended before the patch. Expect another patch shortly, but it
shouldn't tear up your character.
Varda's topic: How
did Tolkien show the idea of hope in the LotR and other writings?
Eonwe: Aragorn and Arwen share a hope.
Elrond: Giving up hope conceded defeat.
Eonwe: Council of Elrond met with hope.
Pharazon: Small hope in the form of a hobbit.
Galdor: with odds stacked against him.
Erestor: Gandalf spoke of a "fool's hope".
Elrond: Defeat of Sauron was hope of elves, showing
Middle-earth would be alright without them.
Eonwe: Frodo had to destroy the Ring, Aragorn had to
call out Sauron's armies so Frodo could make it. They each had hope in
the other's efforts.
The hope after the Last Battle of Arda re-made as
(Much more, hard to jot down and participate. Great
(Tangent: Melkor, Eru, the Flame Imperishable)
Nov. 14, 2003
Guild Ladder for D2X page is up.
If we can keep it reasonably updated with once a week emails and visual
sightings, we will keep the page. Our guild ladder characters will
mostly not show on Battlenet's ladder, so we need a separate one. It
can help us locate each other by account names for friend lists and
suggest which ones are of a level to play with our own characters. The
Ladder page can be reached from the main guild page under Gaming/
Nov. 11, 2003
Letter from Turgon:
I have very bad news for everyone. I went to a
friend last weekend who knows a tad bit more about comps than I do, and
it seems both my processor and my motherboard are fried. That means
I've got a huge bill on my counter if I want to replace them. At this
moment I cannot do that, so it will most probably take til early next
year to get back online. I am trying everything I can to be back on
earlier, but the best I can do (hopefully) is getting a small comp on
which I can install and play WC II B.net edition and at least have
access to b.net.
Elen sila lumenn omentielmo,
Nov. 9, 2003
Sunday Meeting 5:00pm
EST, 22:00 GMT: Battlenet East Realm, channel Clan Vala
Attending: report by Thror
Ar-Pharazon, Beleg, Earendil, Erestor,
Gwaihir (presiding), Mahtan, Orodreth, Thror
Rest of meeting report by Gwaihir:
E-mail from Galdor:
Thingol is doing well in
Germany, hoping you have wireless access on laptop soon
E-mail from Legolas:
He’s alive and well
able to be on bnet weekends now and should be most weekends
from the meeting, work
from the meeting, with family and friends for her birthday get-together
Poem “Valar” by Orodreth
New site by Merry: Central
Texas Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (CTVOAD)
Trivial Pursuit for LotR on sale now
Blizzard has released art tools for WC3/TFT – Appear
to be plugins for a 3d rendering program known as “Discreet 3Ds Max
4.0(4.26 is recommended)
Nov. 8, 2003
Letter from Tom Bombadil:
I want to begin this letter by expressing my sincerest
apologies! My life has been really hectic as of late,
because I have moved to Paris. I have not had a
computer until just yesterday, when it finally arrived
During this time, I have had no mail and no contact
from my server, so I assume that it went off-line due
to non-payment! I want to apologies as well for this,
but I have had no idea until today when I was surfing
and noticed that everything is gone!
I truthfully miss the old times at the guild, but I do
not have enough time to drop by regularly. I do not
exactly want to hand in the badge, so to say, but
realistically I am unable to fulfill my duties as a
Perhaps in a little while, my prospects will look up
and I will once again be able to smash some goonies
with you all! Send my wishes to the guild for me,
until the day when I will be able to send them myself!
Nov. 6, 2003
Letter from Galdor:
I was on the d2.net forums yesterday & ran into
New members site up by Meriadoc-(V), on Guild
Thingol of our guild there. He wanted me to let the
guild know that he is doing fine in Germany and wants
to say Aiya to everyone and he also hopes he can soon
patch in to the the wireless internet there with his
Central Texas Voluntary Organizations
Active in Disaster (CTVOAD) - a new page just started by
Merry is also
the group's VP and has been nominated for another term. Now if it only
Nov. 5, 2003
"Valar", by Orodreth-(V)
Nov. 3, 2003
from Legolas: Nov 3
Legolas... just droppin ya a note to let ya know i'm still alive an'
kicking and such... finally got going again on d2x with the new ladder
and all that... not able to make the meetings, since i work every
sunday so i havent been able to drop by there and say aiya to y'all
Nov. 2, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet
East, 5pm EST, 22:00 GMT. channel Clan Vala
Alatar, Ar-Pharazon, Beleg,
Caranthir/Morifinwe-V, Eonwe, Erestor, Mahtan, Orodreth, Varda
Seen after the meeting:
Gwaihir-Valar, Thror_V, Turin(V) , ex-Maglor-(V) as Teki-San
considering rejoining us in WoW when it comes out to have someone to
is back, senior in high school, new email. His sister Earwen, BW player, has gone to
University and can also be expected to have a new email once settled.
to be on more now that mid-terms are over.
and Legolas working at meeting
Turgon and Tulkas are having computer troubles.
mod: report by Eonwe
The V&K page will be moving back to
Planet Diablo. The forum is still in its old place, Phrozen Keep.
V&K had just come out with a new
patch when the 1.10 patch came out. They are now working on a mod that
uses the new Blizzsard patch and intend to incorporate the new things
they had been working out. It may come out in a two-step: first one
useable, second one with all the bells and whistles added by Blizzard.
Alatar asks Dior to send him an email
so he can set a space up for him on the valarguild.org server.
Still under re-construction
Now handled by Eonwe until Turgon's
computer is repaired. Turgon can still do a few things.
1.10 patch is out. Hell has frozen over.
Game name format: Arda#-L
Quite a few of us are playing
ladder characters as well as regular. Some of these are:
Arathorn-V, Erestor2-V, Fangorn-(V), Galdor, Gwahir-Valar, Legolas,
Mahtan-V, Sauron-(V), Varda (using account Elentari-Valar)
LotR RPG: email and live report by Orodreth-V
Varda's topic: How did JRRT handle the
subject of death in his writings?
Oct. 29, 2003
Letter from Turgon:
I have to regret to
announce that I still have troubles with my comp and will not be able
to come online for perhaps several months, depending on what part of my
comp I need to replace.
I will miss all of you while I'm gone and I hope I
will be back asap.
I will still handle the Message Boards through
Internet at my job, but I would like to give full command of the Board
to Eonwe as he is the one most regularly checking it, in case my job or
internet there is cut short. I will write a short how-to on the MB
Elen sila lumenn omentielmo,
Letter from Finwe:
Sorry I've been away for so long, my
semester at school has been rather hectic. As such,
I've only just noticed that there were apparently some
problems with getting a hold of me through e-mail.
I'm not sure why, as the address on the member
activity page seems to be correct. Anyhow, not that
my last midterms are over, I should be on more often
(I hope, it's been too long since I last had a chance
to relax on b.net).
Oct. 28, 2003
Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction - The 1.10 patch is
Details on Blizzard,
Battlenet, Arreat Summit
Ladder gamers (for fun and friend list): Arda-L
Elentari-Valar of new account *Elentari-Valar
ArathornL-V is still *Arathorn-V
Fangorn_V is still *Fangorn-(V)
(After Oct 28, Galdor, Gwaihir-Valar, Legolas, Alatar, and Mahtan-V
also laddering. Others as well, but these I know about.)
Oct. 26, 2003
Daylight savings time ends for US and Canada.
Sunday Meeting 5:00pm EST, 22:00 GMT Battlenet East,
channel Clan Vala
Beleg-V, Eonwe-(Valar)/Fionwe-Valar@Azeroth, Orodreth-V, Theoden-V,
Tulkas is having computer problems, kept him
from staying for the rest of the meeting.
Games page is still under re-construction, quite a
of progress. Eonwe is struggling to do it in his tiny bit of time
Tolkien Languages page can use input.
We can gather together for games after the
meeting. WC3 and TFT players can also gather to game Saturdays 1pm.
Beta 1.10 gaming is closed. That
should mean it is close to coming out for public use.
Gamers can get together in Clan
Vala to play, Saturdays at 1pm EST. A leader is not required for clan
members to join up for gaming.
Eonwe came in
made sure the clan stays in one piece. Be sure to bring in your WC3/TFT
to the Clan Channel, as it needs at least one visit from you every 28
although it has a grace period.
Orodreth still takes in folk who enjoy playing WoS
on his server.
Ar-Pharazon: Discussion of Amroth and
Ulmo and his waters, the waters having the greatest
amount of Eru's theme present
Tom Bombadil possibly being a Maia remaining in
to be with Goldberry who was either a Maia of Aule or daughter of a
of Aule called the River-woman. We know of no children.
Ainur didn't generally marry each other to have
as they were immortal. The life of Elves is attached to Middle-earth,
like the immortality of Ainur that didn't depend on Arda's existence. A
is known to have married an Elf and had children, however, as in the
of Melian and Thingol. Thus Tom Bombadil might have stayed in
with a non-Maia if Goldberry was a half-Maia. If both were Maiar, they
also have stayed together, as the Valar Manwe and Varda did.
Oct. 22, 2003
D2X News from Eonwe:
News just off the
closed the beta for 1.10. It's coming.... :}
Oct. 21, 2003
D2:LoD Middle-earth mod 1.8 patch was out last year.
Please pardon my not paying closer attention to the number on my own
V&K's page for the mod,
which is temporarily down, is also listed on the guild index under
Unfortunately, xfernet server for
mod page and other D2 mods is down. Repairs underway and temporary new
More Main Forum
Keep Forum V&K tells some of the bugs in the mod and how to
overcome or live with them, plus tips.
Middle/Earth on Open is one way to play with
fellow modders outside guild.
Oct. 19, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East, channel Clan
Vala, 5:00 pm ESDT, 22:00 GMT. Report from Eonwe:
Eonwë(Presiding), Arathorn, Orodreth, Galdor, Turgon
Varda and family went to Renn Faire, so were unable
to make it to the meeting.
Boromir went out hunting, so was unable to
Turgon is having computer troubles, having lost his
hard drive. He may not be able to make it for anywhere from a few
days to a few weeks(attended this meeting via a friend's comp).
Gelmir sent in a letter, letting us know he's still
Events Page Added to
Encyclopedia. Suggested by Ron Smith, a Tolkien member.
Article by Varda
:"Creation" found on the Events Page.
Public Tourney for UMS
map Trees of the Valar.
LotR RPG FO (Fourth Age)
175 after death of Elessar.
Arathorn: CS Helm's Deep mod review, not yet
set up on Games Page, which is not yet in it's new format.
Sort of Free Format, began with comment by (pardon,
didn't grab name, either Arathorn or Pharazon) on a scientific
discovery that there are tiny strings vibrating to musical intervals
that make up quarks, once thought to be the smallest particle.
Did Tolkien know about this when he wrote about his Ainur and the
Oct 19 Letter from Boromir:
I can't make the sunday meeting
because im goign out to hunt.
Oct. 17, 2003
I (that's Varda) will probably be absent from
upcoming Sunday meeting. I'm going with family and friends to the Texas
Festival all day Sunday, and may be back late that night, which is very
for many of you or even morning. Others have been notified so someone
can handle the
meeting. If none of them can make it, please feel free to enjoy
and gaming anyway! It's faintly possible we may have some people show
in the Yahoo chat, so someone needs to pop in there for them.
Oct. 16, 2003
New page: "Events".
This page is for events in the books, such as battles or a meeting or
rather than individual characters. Suggested by ~Gandalf, aka Ron
"Creation", by Varda
Oct. 15, 2003
China (AP) - Against a clear blue sky, China fired
its first astronaut into orbit without any visible hitches
Wednesday, becoming only the third nation capable of manned
spaceflight. The government said the mission was going smoothly and
its ``taikonaut'' radioed back: ``I feel good.''
Letter from Irmo:
Letter from Orodreth-(V):
DaoC meetings have lately been scarcely attanded, and last very short
anyway. Since we have organized pretty much everything which need organizing
(crafts/house/alliance) the need for business meetings has indeed lessened.
Most members are not too fond of organizationale discussions and want to
hunt as soon as possible, and I grant them that if possible, hehe:).
So not much to make reports about, really.
Orodreth-V here, and I have a few things
Oct. 13, 2003
Orodreth AKA Ondollo, Halmundo, and Alan
Letter from Gelmir:
(Historical addendum from Varda: Grimbold returned to the guild as
and celebrates his one year return anniversary Oct. 11. He now mainly
EverQuest. Aule also returned to the guild with full honors reinstated
plays mostly EverQuest and some WarCraft3.) Oh, and I agree with
Send in your Histories and feel free to update them over time.
I regret the fact that I was unable to attend the meeting Sunday, or be
for games and chat, in celebration of our 6th anniversary, I would like
congratulate everyone on keeping the guild going thus far. While I
a few years after the “bleak period” I myself have run into a few
that are akin to that in one sense or another. Namely the
if you will, of Grimbold. While he made some mistakes, and said some
that weren’t quite pleasant, the vault of the misunderstanding should
fallen largely upon his brother. This situation wasn’t too different
incident that befell Aule. But I didn’t write this to defend a comrade.
wrote this to both congratulate us all, and to announce that I have now
a member of this glorious guild, and taken haven in its channel, when
was a haven, for a little over three years now. I know that I’ve upset
few members, and that I said some things that were quite immature. I
this because I’ve changed a lot in the past three years, I’ve seen a
of friends come and go, both in the guild and in real life. That makes
appreachiate what we have here, and I hope to rekindle or spark anew
with a lot of you. This group has been a constant in my life when I had
else. For that I will be forever grateful. <sighs> real life
me once again. Perhaps I shall write a brief history, it would be nice
see some more on that page. <pokes and Prods>.
congratulations! May we endure for years to come! I take my leave.
Oct. 12, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East 5:00pm ESDT, 22:00 GMT,
channel Clan Vala
Amrod, Arathorn, Ar-Pharazon, Beleg,
Gil-galad (late), Haldir, Thror, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Sweep underway to remove inactive and
disinterested members. Help needed from all members. If you are listed
being in danger, please email Varda
promptly to keep your name. If you are removed when you wished to
please return and rejoin as soon as possible before your name is given
a new member. If you know how to contact someone on the list, please
him know to email me. If the person is currently unable to make contact
wishes to remain, please make the contact for him. Ways to make contact
email are: come to a meeting and be shown on the "Attending" list in
News, post to the Discussion Board,
post to the Message Board.
Activity page is useful to check status, question marks meaning
sweep endangerment; email Varda to update that page. Also, see Oct
9 sweep status for the list by Eonwe.
Arathorn, starting Tuesday, will be working
certifications and will have much less play time for a few months, but
to have more time afterwards.
Turgon ably handled a short part of the
meeting when Varda had to be afk. Thanks, Turgon!
Revamped page to make it
"Thengel", by Ron Smith
"Fengel", by Ron Smith
John Howe's new page with art,
sketches before some of his famous works, and text info.
Lord of the
Rings - Downloads:
Page by Arathorn (see guild
Contains FotR original movie trailer, LotR maps,
(by Turgon the Swift) under "Games" after Well of Souls, due to
WC3: Eonwe and Osse's tale,
"Beating Fate", told from the viewpoint of the Ainu.
DAoC: Dusksinger tales by Elatan
Turgon reports only 19 members
signed up, but had posted over a hundred messages already. Thror signed
during the meeting.
New page by Varda, starting a
with those showing recent activity. All they need is interest in
and email or board contact.
Page reached from Member Activity.
Game Maps page:
Ar-Pharazon suggests we make a
map download page for all games. This sounds good, but we need
Dior had collected a map page for
but it was on the now defunct Tom Bombadil server, and Dior has not yet
emails. We could use another such collection project for each game and
them together on the Games page. Any members interested in doing such a
please contact Varda or Eonwe. Space might be available free with no
on Alatar's valarguild.org server, but we should check with him first.
is an option also.
TFT (The Frozen Throne):
New LotR map found
by Ar-Pharazon called LotR: The Ring Wars, by Lord Allout. Official site . Found under File
Updates with a Beta 13 version, 710.93 KB. Maps/trigger maps/modified
Helm's Deep mod. Arathorn located
it and put on his Lord of the
Rings - Downloads page. It's the arm/disarm bomb, where terrorists
try to blow up the Keep
door and counter-terrorists try to stop them. You're going to need that
because it's dark down there. After the Tolkien chat, a group went
to try it out, of Arathorn, his brother, Gil-galad, and Turgon.
Ar-Pharazon's topic: There was a question
about whether Arwen lost her elven immortality.
Pharazon found the answer in the Return of
King's Appendix A, Section I "The Numenorean Kings" (i), "Numenor" and
it for us. Others enjoyed reading along. It is after the list of the
of elf and man, telling the choices of the Half-elven.
"At the end of the First Age the Valar gave to the
an irrevocable choice to which kindred they would belong. Elrond chose
be of Elven-kind, and became a master of wisdom. To him therefore was
the same grace as to those of the High Elves that still lingered in
that when weary at last of the mortal lands they could take ship from
Grey Havens and pass into the Uttermost West; and this grace continued
the change of the world.
But to the children of Elrond a choice was also appointed: to pass with
from the circles of the word; or if they remained to become mortal and
in Middle-earth. For Elrond, therefore, all chances of the War of the
were fraught with sorrow.
"Elros chose to be of Man-kind and remain with the
but a great life-span was granted to him many times that of lesser
"His (Elros') descendents were long-lived but
"...she (Arwen) laid herself to rest upon Cerin
Amroth; and there is her green grave..."
Then we brought up the question, what about her
brothers, Elladan and Elrohir?
Another question that came up was about the warrior
who were later written out of the story, but show up in the earliest
in BoLT1, Makar and Meassa. Were they on Morgoth's side? Not
was the answer, not as in going over to be with him. Their warrior
went along with the discords that Melkor made in the Song. They,
remained in Valinor, not going to Angband.
Oct. 10, 2003
Revamped the page "Joining". I hope it better
the questions potential recruiters have asked. Suggestions welcome.
Oct. 9, 2003
status of sweep: the removal
of inactive members. Currently Eonwe is working on locating people by
in conjunction with his Gaming page update. Here is part of the report
We started this process with 142 members listed on the
Members and Member Activity Pages.
56 of our members were informed they have not been seen since May 2003
at the earliest and were warned they were in danger of being swept. Of
these, I recieved responses or viewed activity in some manner from the
Akhoril (responded, Amlaith (responded), Earendil (responded), Eomer
(responded), Gorbag (spotted on the new MB), Mablung (e-mailed Varda),
Menelvagor (responded), Olwë (responded), Peregrin (responded),
Rumil (responded), Scatha (responded), Ulfang (responded)
The following have resigned : Amandil, Azaghal, Bandobras (aka
(Note from Varda: all said they didn't have enough time)
The following I recieved a delivery failure:
Bolg, Celebrimbor, Daeron, Falathar, Finrod, Fuinur, Gloin, Gorgenhad,
Rog, Smaug, Smeagol, Thranduil, Beorn (badiccico)
Beor had no e-mail through which to contact him.
These following gave no delivery failure, and did not respond to the
Aldor, Amroth, Bain, Balin, Beorn(all other forms), Beruthiel, Bilbo,
Celeborn, Celegorm, Cirdan, Curufin, Denethor, Dior, Durin, Earwen,
Edrahil, Elendil, Elenwë, Elros, Fladrif, Gimli, Girion, Imrahil,
Ingwë, Isildur, Oin, Ori, Saruman, Shagrat, Thorin
Unless someone has seen or heard from the people in the last two
groups, or there is some condition I am unaware of that they have
informed others as to remaining in the Guild, those are our sweep
lists. 42 members total.
Oct. 8, 2003
Letter from Arathorn:
Sorry... been involved in
getting a loan for my MCSA certification ... been a long couple of
weeks.. finally went thru and will be WAY busy trying to pass my 4
major certification tests in the next few months ... I apologies for
being so brief last meet but my sleep habits have been very tiring and
non-existent... I hope to have more to offer the group in a few weeks..
don't expect to hear from me for a bit... but please keep me on your
Oct. 6, 2003
~Gandalf, aka Ron Smith, Tolkien member
The Encyclopedia Acknowledgements
now has a link to the page of the artist, John Howe.
Oct. 5, 2003
DAoC meeting 3:30pm EST, I think.
4pm EST. Ar-Pharazon and Varda showed up, discussed the ancient
aspects of his name and the Numenorean culture, with its emphasis on
and the attempt to escape it, and that running from death led them to
Pharazon sounds suspiciously like pharoah, and making it Ar-Pharazon
Golden could be no coincidence. Tombs were made greater than the
of the living. Another discussion touched briefly on a Histories #11
in which Finrod and human woman discussed the mortality of Man and the
that them might become Valar with Eru.
Bnet meeting approximately 5pm EST East
Realm, channel Clan Vala.
Hope you can make it to one or more of these! Happy
6th Anniversary, Valar Guild!
Sunday Meeting 5:00pm EST, 22:00 GMT.
Battlenet, East Realm, channel Clan Vala
Attending: report by Draugluin
(17) Aragorn, Arathorn, Ar-Pharazon, Amras,
Caranthir, Draugluin (gavel), Elwing, Eomer, Eonwe (co-chair), Erestor,
Gwaihir (gavel), Maedhros, Osse, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Orodreth was afk in the play channel.
Ar-Pharazon said his few words of
He's from the Netherlands and hopes to clear the bad taste from the
name he took, as a challenge. He is very well-read in Tolkien and plays
Saturday's Anniversary gaming included Osse and
Eonwe beating fate on WarCraft 3/TFT; Eowyn, Faramir, Orodreth,
Sauron in BW; and a continuing stream of D2X players
across the day, mostly morning and evening. Taglos and Sauron were in EverQuest.
We reminded the group that we try to default all
guild gaming to East , including Azeroth on WC3/TFT and D2X,
so we can find each other. We have members scattered all over wondering
where everyone else is.
Half-Life: Arathorn reports Half-Life has a
new world called Helm's Deep
We intentionally devoted most of the meeting to
Tolkien with a bit of reminiscing.
Draugluin's topic: What was the role of the
Palantiri in the LotR storyline?
Discussion was lively. Ar-Pharazon started us off
the Orthanc-stone. A boiled down version is below, made by many
The Orthanc stone was thrown out of the tower window
Grima Wormtongue, apparently in a confusion of mind about whether he
to hit Gandalf or Saruman. When Pippin rescued it before it went into
water, he came to Sauron's notice as the hobbit who potentially had the
and believed to be a captive held by Saruman. Gandalf passed the
to its rightful owner, the heir of Isildur, Aragorn. Aragorn showed
for who he was to Sauron and wrested the stone from the grasp of the
almost breaking Aragorn. This act made Sauron believe Aragorn had the
with the Ring and would challenge him for Middle-earth. So Sauron
before he was ready, removing his vast armies from Frodo's path.
mission was the only real danger to Sauron, from which he was
The Ithilstone was used by Sauron to deceive
showing him only what facts Sauron wanted him to see. Thus he could see
huge fleet of Corsairs moving against Minas Tirith but not that it was
over by Aragorn and his forces, so he was driven the final step to
attempting a suicide/murder.
The stone at the Grey Havens held by Cirdan had been
by Elendil to look with "straight sight" towards Tol Eressea.
The palantir controlling all others was lost in the
destruction of Osgilath.
Weathertop (Amon Sul) stone caused infighting o fthe
sub-kingdoms of Cardolan, Rudhaer, and Arthedain, affecting how the
was set up at the time of the War of the Ring.
The inevitable tangent discussion involved spirits
Aman doing what sounded like physical things, as well as Frodo's mortal
going there still alive in Arwen's place.
Oct. 4, 2003
Happy Anniversary to the Valar Guild!
Today marks our 6th year of trying to make some kind of online haven
available in all games while being a Tolkien fan club.
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
He was Minotaurofchaos@Azeroth in TFT. He started a test with Eonwe one
and finished with Varda today for a 5/5. He's 18, from the Netherlands.
game is TFT. He also plays WC3, SC, BW, Dungeon Siege, Empire Earth +
Diablo 1. He plans to get Diablo 2. He's read H, LotR,
Sil, UT, and all 12 Histories.
People I've seen on the Anniversary in Bnet today
include: Arathorn, Ancalagon, Ar-Pharazon, Beleg, Boromir, Elrond,
Erestor, Faramir, Fingon, Thror, Turin, Orodreth, SamWise, Sauron, and
Two Letters from Orome:
Letter from Elatan:
Yay Congrats to all! Orome
I work week-ends too Orome
Letter from Eonwe:
I do not have B.net access anymore so not able to join the 6th Anniversary
there. Gave my Cd`s away. I will try get on Yahoo though.
With some luck the 7th in MEO ? http://www.lordoftherings.com/meo/
Happy Anniversary to everyone
Letter from Gwaihir:
I regret to inform all I will be working all day Saturday and thus will
have no time to attend any festivities that day. I wish you all a
Happy 6th Anniversary and hope you will all have fun. Hopefully
I'll see you Sunday.
Take care all and Happy 6th Anniversary mellyn.
Unfortunately, I'm in the same situation as Eonwe
Saturday... between work and my school situation, I won't be able to
make more than a token appearance at best on Saturday... I know not yet
whether I work Sunday, but I hope I do not, so that I can attend the
meeting at least... but I'll have to wait and see... Happy 6th
anniversary to you all from me as well! I hope to see you all tomorrow
Letter from Lungorthin:
I wish I could attend.. college is robbing me of my time! fell behind in classes and hoping to catch up.
sorry and hope to see you all soon,
Lungorthin / Rauko
Oct. 3, 2003
Guild Anniversary tomorrow! Come online if
you can: play, reminesce, talk Tolkien!
Thror! Happy Birthday!
D2X: Varda's hoping to take Eowyn's
of cramming as many level one characters as we can into one D2X game in
Quest for As Many as Possible. Those games tend to be plagued by bnet
so we may have to play again. hehe.
SC/BW: We dare you and two team mates to
or make a record on Bridges of Osgiliath! Orodreth has a new version of
to check out, also.
Meetings: We'll have our regular meeting
skipping the usual business part (except for any records we may have
Saturday, bragging rights, you know) and going directly to Tolkien.
There's some talk of having a Yahoo Tolkien chat,
early for the DAoC and Europe guys?), so we can bring in people from
games and those with destroyed or lost CD's.
Welcome to the Valar Guild! Galdor
met Varda in a public cow game a few days ago, checked out our web
then took the test with Varda passing with a perfect 5/5. Galdor is 27
Chicago, Illinois in the USA, CST. He plays D2X. He's read the LotR and
of the Sil and UT. His AOL is CC2005ST, Yahoo is steve2401a, the Yahoo
more used. He can be found on D2net forums 5 days a week between 8:30
4:15 central (9:30 and 5:15 EST). He visited as *st74656 and
He plays odd days during the week, M, F, sometimes Tu, W, Thur, weekend
For the Valar Guild, since Aragorn was taken, he chose the name of the
Havens Elf Galdor (not the Man), Cirdan's messenger and representative
the Council of Elrond. He had multiple favorite LotR characters
Gandalf, Legolas, Gimli, Merry, and Pippin. Hey, Galdor! I forgot
to jot down your email. Please email me.
Oct. 2, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Faramir used to be in the guild a long time ago as Fingolfin, a
of Aule's, then went inactive, then waited for the Fingolfin name to
clear again, which it didn't, then decided he's been a loner long
and is back with us. He made 5/5 in a test with Draugluin and Varda.
is 41 from Delaware, USA, in the EST. He plays on Bnet about 5 days a
WC3 very little, TFT a lot, some SC and BW. He has the Diablo patch so
not allowed in regular play yet. He tried Ultima Online, but didn't
it. He hopes to get into WoW when it comes out. He
generally doesn't use any instant messenger-type services. He's
read the H, LotR, Sil, Lost Tales 1&2, Farmer Giles of Ham. His
LotR character is Faramir, who represents the best in men. Noble
being ambitious or pretentious. Strong presence. Instinctively trusted
It was as if he could search Frodo's soul in the books. Didn't like
portrayal, but caused more thought about the original character.
Oct. 1, 2003
Aiya from Varda! I'm back. Email and
therefore News is being caught up today from the last entry on Sept 23,
listed under its date.
Correction to Amrod's email address: firstname.lastname@example.org
have been receiving a great deal of attention with additional banks and
items. Great job, guys!
Numenore - Tolkien fan
page, including articles. Has links to our Tolkien Encyclopedia as
article reference credit.
Melmoth - MUD. Text-based
game. Join in a Medieval Fantasy setting by our own Rumil-(V) as
Other worlds include science fiction, Star Wars. Site sent in by
The Tolkien Meta-FAQ -
index to several major lists of
Frequently Asked Questions about J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth:
by Steuard Jensen.
Letter from Rumil-(V):
Letter from Mablung-(V)
I'll try to drop by either this weekend or
And to let the people know who seem interested, my
character names on Melmoth are: Maglor, Tirion
(obviously another Tolkien ref.), Myrddraal, Locklear,
and Krys. The clan I lead is Vendetta, and my best
friend plays the character Attarno.
So if anyone is interested you might want to let them
know about that so they have someone to talk to and
hang with when they first join the mud.
Alright, thanks again, I'll see you at the next
meeting (hopefully... this is homecomming weekend,
its been forever since i sent a msg to any of you ive been soo busy
but i do hope to start coming to meetings. Im getting my car soon
so i might
be on and off but i finally retreived my starcraft disk from a friend
might be able to start attending meetings... i was trying to check up
all the news ive missed but theres alot. Tell all the members i
and im definately still active and boy i cant wait for the third movie
Sept 28, 2003
Sunday Meeting: Battlenet East Realm, channel Clan
Vala. 5:00 pm ESDT, 22:00 GMT. Report by Eonwe-(Valar)
Fionwë/Eonwë(chairing),Gwaihir, Huan(Via Valarguild),
Arathorn, Beleg, Turgon, Theoden, Erestor, Thror, Amrod, Amras
Guest: MinotaurofChaos (began test, didn't
get to finish)
Varda was unable to be at the meetng tonight
as she had some rl stuff to do. She will be back Monday or
Tuesday, so if you e-mailed her, she won't be able to respond until
then. If it's an urgent question, I (Eonwë) might be able to
Lenwë emailed. He's going back to
college and working hard, so he hasn't had much time to stop in.
New Members Amrod and Amras joined after last
week's meeting. They gave their few words as a team-effort (as
Turgon commented, "sounds like twins to me :)" )
Amras - Hullo, my name is Amras. And that is my
friend Amrod and twin
Amrod - Amras found the clan and he led me to it.
Amras - Ok. Orodreth got me to join. I had
been to a meeting and liked the people.
Amras - Everyone is real nice, unlike other people
Amrod - Yes, I agree.
Amras - And I only play Starcraft.
Amrod - Yeah me too
Amrod - I'm from Canada
Amras - I'm also working on a 4th Age map, and
request any help, taking place during the Aftermath of LotR year after
Several new pics, none
named at the meeting :} For a complete list, check the News page
Articles - "Brief History
of Arathorn II", by Arathorn-(V)
Poems - "Arathorn's
Sonnet" found by Arathorn-(V), placed on our page with permission
from the author
D2X Tolkien mod router page:
Arathorn - sent in link to
web page he made himself, describing setting up a router for open bnet
Turgon - Remember to
register at the new Message Board
Major update - put each game in its own section, as well as added
Marketplace sections for
D2, EQ,and DAoC
also asked if anyone had experienced any pop-up ads. Those who
and felt the banner ads that were at the top were not too distracting
to our games or Tolkien anyway,.. almost like they're targeted for us
I also reminded
everyone present they should use their Guild name when signing up.
either register using their Guild name, or use the method described by
Turgon in the Announcements section of the board.
Games Page Update:
Last call for everyone to send in
their info. I need it by September 30th. Thanks :}
Arathorn informed me his ISP was
knocked out for a while, and others might've been too.
Arathorn - Addition to AIM,
called DeadAim, allows saving/archiving of IMs (Instant Messages)
Letter from Arathorn: AIM users
to AIM (AOL instant messenger):
free add-on that works within AIM, DeadAIM can tweak transparency, keep
all conversations in a single tabbed interface, log sessions and events
(such as log-on and log-off) separately for each buddy, and hide
elements of the main AIM window. In addition, DeadAIM can pop up a
notification when buddies sign on, sign off, set "away" messages, or
Anything before v4 is free
(particularly v3.2.8). Works with AIM v5.2.3292 and before.
Well of Souls:
Orodreth once again asks for help
with his Tolkien mod for Well of Souls. Any ideas, thoughts,
suggestions can be sent to him or posted on the Message Board.
I went with MinotaurofChaos to begin his test
(Turgon observing) and left Orodreth with the chat since he had a
topic. If anyone has any notes from the Tolkien chat please send
it in :}
Sept. 25, 2003
Letter from Eonwe: for the whole guild
Heya all! :}
Letter from Arathorn: for Open B.netters (such
as D2X Tolkien mod) having trouble joining each other's games:
Just thought I'd give a reminder (to go on the News page as well
if possible) that I need everyone's current gaming info. That's
for you and any family/members of honor who have not yet responded
themselves. Out of the ~140 members in this guild only 33 have
responded so far. I need the info by September 30th if at all
For some of you Council guys, it may be painfully obvious
:} but then you also might be playing online games I don't know
about :} Humour me please :}
Please encourage people you see in your games to send in their
gaming info and include their guild name (Earendil e-mailed me, didn't
include his name, can only guess it's him by his e-mail address.
I don't know everyone's e-mail that well :}).
Any full member who hasn't recieved a letter requesting this
info is hereby requested :}
Thanks and take care :}
Letter from Rumil: MUD
I wrote up a web page that outlines how I setup my router that may help
others. You might want to take a gander to see if you can figure out yours
based on this example as reference. If anyone wants help testing 'Open Bnet'
with their router, they can email me and we can set up a mutually convenient
time (maybe you can jot down a short note in the News or we can bring it up
at the next meeting).
Here's the URL for the new page at its current location (will let you know
if that changes):
For the last 4-5 years I've been playing on a MUD
(Multiple User Dimension). I don't know if you've
ever played one or even know what it is... but I
thought I'd let you know about it so you can let the
rest of the guild know (if you think it's a good
Basically a mud (if you don't know) is an online,
text-based rpg. I can explain it more in more detail
if you want. But basically this one has a fairly
small, centralized player base (average of 20-30
people on during average hours). I run a clan on that
mud and also help build new areas for it. It is a
fantasy/mideval times based mud (as opposed to sci-fi
or star wars based... there are a lot out there) so i
thought some of the tolkien people might be
interested. However, I already use the name Maglor
there (I made the character over 4 years ago, long
before i joined the guild) so the guy who has Maglor
in the guild might not appreciate not being able to
play his char (of which you can have many). Anyway,
just thought I'd let you know. Let me know if you are
more interested, I can give you the address and all.
It's called Melmoth, the website is www.melmoth.org,
though it isn't fantastic or anything (the mud is far
better than the website).
Anyway, give it some thought & I'll see you later.
Sept. 23, 2004
Excerpt from letter from Lenwe:
I havent come on recently for a variety of reasons, but I
still maintain an Interest in being a part of our community. Near
the time when the 1.10 beta was released I purchased my very first
hub. I setup a LAN with my gf and her sister's computers and I
didnt even get on the internet till literally 3 weeks after that.
But I couldnt come on to play much because I had to work a lot before
school. Finally, I returned to college after an entire year of
absence. I'd be interested in learning about that Port thing you
said Arathorn discovered. After we complete d2x beta i was hoping
to introduce my girlfriend and her sister to the mod. They have
both not yet completed the game on hell yet.
Well its nice to be back in school. I'm taking easier classes to
take it slow at first but its coming back and I'm really enjoying
it. I have to go back to studying so this is all I can write for
now but I wanted to let you know that I missed playing with you.
Peaceful be your journeys,
It's come to my attention that
new images are added to the Tolkien Encyc, it should be mentioned here.
of the pictures come from Ryan Lovett's incredible Rolozo Tolkien page for
the Encyc, with his permission. Browse and enjoy! (And now you can ask
me to never do this to you again!)
"Warg Rider". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo (Also under Orc
B&W "Eol attacks Maeglin". Eol attacks his son, but Eol's wife
jumps in the way. Artist Luis F. Bejarano. Rolozo
B&W "Feanor and Gothmog". Artist Maciek Wygnanski. Rolozo
"Feanor". In anger. Artist Luis Bejarano. Rolozo
"Fingolfin". Includes device, sword Ringil. Artist Felix Sotomayor.
"Morgoth and Fingolfin". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo (Also on
Powers page, Melkor)
"Haldir". Artist Maria Lombide Ezpeleta. Rolozo Tolkien page
"Bloom as Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood". Legolas with bow. Artist Sharon
'Lynx' Tanhueco. Rolozo
"Legolas". Movie Legolas learning about mortality. Artist Marina
"Legolas". Angry, with bow in forest. Artist Jason Zilian. Rolozo
"Luthien". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo
B&W "Kelegorm and Luthien". (K was the early spelling.) Celegorm,
and Huan. Artist Maciek Wygnanski. Rolozo
"Elu Thingol". Artist Felix SotoMayor. Rolozo
"King". movie. Artist Marina Zhukova. Rolozo
"Aragorn". movie Strider. Artist Marina Zhukova. Rolozo
"Aragorn". movie Aragorn as in Rivendell. Artist Marina Zhukova. Rolozo
"Boromir's Fate". Boromir, remorseful. Artist Sharon 'Lynx' Tanhueco.
"Eowyn as a Shieldmaiden, protecting Minas Tirith" armed, in front of
Artist Sharon 'Lynx' Tanhueco. Rolozo Tolkien
"Faramir". Faramir using bow, back to a building. Artist Mirela
B&W "Faramir". Artist Alexandra Kitlickova. Rolozo
B&W "Mouth of Sauron". Artist Maciek Wygnanski. Rolozo
"Thorin Oakenshield". Artist Jason Zilian. Rolozo
"Fangorn Forest". The forest with the river running through it. Artist
Alan Lee. Rolozo
Merry and Pippin walking through Fangorn Forest. Artist Ted Nasmith.
"Welling". One of Fangorn's homes, Welling Hall, where he brought the
hobbits. Artist Ted Nasmith. Rolozo
Treebeard feeding and speaking with Merry and Pippin at Welling Hall.
for ICE (Iron Crown Enterprises') MERP. Artist Angus McBride.
"Searching Fangorn Forest". Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli search for
Merry and Pippin. Artist Peter Xavier Price. Rolozo
Entmoot, Fangorn speaking while holding the hobbits. Artist Ted Nasmith
for Danbury Mint Plates. Rolozo
"Entmoot". The hobbits watch the entmoot, up close. Artist Darrell
"Siege of Angband". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo
"The Dark Tower". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo
The Shire: Image:
"Last Sight of the Shire". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo
"Minas Tirith". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo
"The Dark Gate is Closed". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo
"Vinyamar". Artist Felix Sotomayor. Rolozo (Turgon's first home
M-e, before Gondolin, where Ulmo had him leave arms for Tuor)
"Morgoth". Morgoth armored, with Grond. Artist Luis Bejarano.
"Fingolfin and Morgoth". Artist Luis Bejarano. Rolozo (also
B&W. "Morgoth and Ungoliant" attacking the Two Trees. Artist Luis
" Gandalf vs Balrog". Artist Maciek Wygnanski. Rolozo
Sept. 22, 2003
"The Brief History of Arathorn
Father of Aragorn II, in Chronological Order" by Arathorn-(V)
by Alawa, submitted with the author's permission by Arathorn-(V)
Sept. 21, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East Realm, channel
Clan Vala, 5:00pm ESDT, 22:00 GMT
Members: Arathorn, Beleg, Elwing,
Eol, Gwaihir, Orodreth, Thror, Turgon, ValarGuild bot (Huan presumed
scrolling), Varda (presiding)
Over the shoulder hellos from Sauron, Eowyn
Visitors: Told@Azeroth, GoME-Amras
sent regards. He had to work during the meeting, but played with us
last night until the wee hours.
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Orodreth scouted, meeting GoME-Amras while BroodWar gaming. Varda and
tested. Amras takes AP English and it shows in his speech and unusually
spelling! Amras started the GoME guild for BW-only last week with seven
ME means Middle-earth. He created a web page for it, Guardians of Middle-earth.
He is building a Tolkien-flavored BW map and is requesting help: beta
as well as those who are good with map-making. Amras is 17, from
Tennessee in the US, CST. He plays BW and games from
for about two hours a day. They play from op GoME. He's read the LotR
Sil, but not the H. His favorite character from the LotR is Eomer, for
loyalty to his country when he could have succumbed to evil or left.
men love him and follow him against overwhelming odds.
Amrod-V, Welcome to the Valar
Amras-V scouted, bringing GoME-Manwe to see us, as one of his folk,
who would fit into the Valar as well. Double memberships are okay for
groups, so no problem. Amrod tested with Varda for a whopping 5/5
He does indeed fit in well and we are glad to have him too. He's 15
Ontario, Canada; CST. He plays about once a day for 2-3 hours on
weekends an irregular amount. He plays BW, regular D2 and is
buying the expansion, and mislaid his WC3 CD for now. He
MSN as email@example.com He's read the H, LotR, and is
reading the Sil. His favorite LotR character is Aragorn who is a good
and leader. He led the Fellowship after Gandalf's death and tries to
Be sure to register! While
there, Arathorn says to check out the picture of him. It's under
Hey, nice sunglasses!
Well of Souls: Orodreth reporting
Orodreth asking for help.
Arathorn reports a lot of crashes.
DAoC: Turgon reporting
Turgon didn't make it to the
meeting, no report.
AD&D: Turgon reporting
Group still unable to get
together due to work schedules.
D2X: Thror reporting
Some guild banks are full, others
full, time to make new ones. (Full now shown on the Bank page.) He
to start a new set account.
We now have more BW folk to play
Middle-earth maps continue to be worked on and new ones started.
Turgon's topic: Aragorn revealed himself
the palantir (taken from Saruman) to Sauron. Why was it important to do
Why was Sauron afraid?
This set off a great deal of
discussion, only a little of which I jotted down:
Sauron had a special hatred for
partly from the time when he had to humble himself to take them over by
a Maia groveling to the merely human Ar-Pharazon to get to his huge ego.
Gwaihir quoted, one of them was:
he was crafty, well skilled to gain what he would by subtletly when
might not avail. Therefore he humbled himself before Ar-Pharazon and
Orodreth's topic #1: How likely is it that
from Cuivienen survived into the Fourth Age, and what would their
be like concerning warfare?
Orodreth's topic #2: Would dwarves not of
folk who went east have survived until the Fourth Age?
Sept. 14, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East Realm, channel
Clan Vala, 5:00pm ESDT, 22:00 GMT.
Arathorn, Bard, Eol, Eonwe, Finglas/Leaflock
opened channel, Orodreth, Osse, Thror, Tulkas, Turgon, Varda
Bard, new member, gave his few words.
Tulkas still doesn't have his new computer, plans to
play D2X Tolkien mod when he does.
Finglas/Leaflock could not stay for the meeting,
things, but opened the meeting channel for us, warned that Calvin is
in control of his old account. Calvin is often seen as
and has a nasty mouth, was previously on a lot as leafieslover in D2X.
Emails to all members:
Eonwe is emailing all members he can reach
weekend. If you have not received an email by Monday, please email Eonwe.
The purpose of this email is to update the Games
which shows what games and in what names we currently play so we can
together. Since the guild plays all online games, this can be very
to everyone in the guild.
The secondary purpose is to check if our email
contact information is correct.
The last purpose is to see if members still wish to
counted in the guild, and give you an extra opportunity to comment on
you are happy with and what improvements you would like to see.
Members who need to email Eonwe (email didn't go
through at all):
Beor - parents require him not to give
email. Beor, please contact us at a meeting, game, discussion board,
board, ValarBuddy botmail, or send word through another if you are
with us and what you are playing. If someone has seen him, please email
tell Eonwe or Varda.
Luthien (heard from another member it is now
- Lord of the Rings massively multiplayer online role-playing game
expects to come out in 2004. Some Council and other members have
expressed interest in going into it when it is available, so we will
likely have a guild branch there. See Gaming:
We are considering ways to work our names into forms
there, when the names will already be in use for the storyline, and we
may be forced to keep our version of Tolkien chat restricted to our
chat channel. Some suggestions are:
* using obscure versions of the
names, many of which the amazing Irmo
already has listed on the Names page. He also researches more for
requesting such by email. These are found in Tolkien's books, including
12 Histories and Unfinished Tales, or by translating the name into
(English), then translating to the equivalent name in other Tolkien
* adding suffixes such as -wen
maiden, -iel for woman which has a short form of -el; and -we or -weg
son or man; -her for lord.
* The -v or -ev or -iev suffix
could also be used for reference to the guild.
* We expect a guild tag will be
so v and valar won't be required as parts of our names.
More suggestions are very
welcome; please email them to Varda.
Dark Age of Camelot: report
Congratulations to the
branch! They have been accepted into the huge Alliance. The Alliance
site is Anam na Eirann.
Actively gaming. Don't forget
Saturday meetings at 1pm!
We have gamers in NWN. Meet Bard,
our newest NWN player.
Tolkien chat conducted by Osse-(Valar).
Sept. 11, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Bard met a member a while back and checked out our web page, then
us as blueraccoon@Azeroth. He tested with Varda, and met Gwaihir and
while there. He's 21 from Miami, Florida, USA in the EST. He plays WC3,
and Soulcalibur2. He's read the H, LotR, and Sil. He goes to the
of Miami, taking Music EngineeringTechnology and Computer Science. His
LotR character was hard to pick, so he said Gandalf for firepower,
for befriending Elves, and Merry for his part in killing the Nazgul.
Lord of the Rings MMORPG - Massive
online game in the world of Middle-earth. Release planned in 2004. Link
found by Eonwe-(Valar). : by Vivendi and Sierra game companies.
a high speed, high memory computer. Has had previous planned release
starting back in 1999, but looks more likely to happen now.
Sept. 8, 2003
Members take note! Eonwe
out the first guild email to the Council to check which games they are
currently. This email also checks to see if emails are correct and
if people are still in the guild. Check to make sure your email is up
date before the next wave of email so you won't be left out!.
Sept. 7, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battle.net, East Realm, 5:00pm
ESDT (ESDT is GMT-5, so this is 22:00 GMT), channel Clan Vala
Members: Arathorn, Beleg, Bregalad/Quickbeam,
Elwing, Eonwe, Erestor, Fangorn, Gwaihir, Lungorthin/Raukoluin,
FarmerMaggott, Orodreth, Theoden, Tulkas/Astaldo, Turgon, Varda
Visitor: VO(V-Amras Friend of Orodreth's, fellow
Adunaphel is our new member, joining in DAoC.
Scar88, Feanor's outside character, dropped by the
meeting briefly to say hi.
Gwaihir will be at work the next couple or so
Haldir dropped by after the meeting and
hi briefly. He was tending to a family matter during the meeting and
to let us know.
Lungorthin/Raukoluin has just started college. He
plays DAoC, but his time is curtailed. He checked with some web-weavers
the meeting to discuss how to do a web page the no-money way. :)
Offline Tolkien Encyclopedia Viewer:
FarmerMaggott has completed
worthy of the Wise, so that he now needs volunteers to aid him in
the data to the program. He asks for your help in copy/pasting articles
the viewer's field, adding the date written, author, and then go to the
article. That Encyc we've made is *big* and ever-growing. Email FarmerMaggott
if you'd like to aid the project.
Eonwe/Fionwe intends to
wipe the Game
page gaming info clean for an update. He will email everyone he can
in the Guild for current gaming info. If you don't receive an email, it
because we need to update your email, so write him with which games you
World of Warcraft rpg:
Turgon says Blizzard is aiming
the beta to start in October.
Eonwe will be the Vala in charge
that rpg and will be setting up our guild branch when it is time. He
help guild members coordinate efforts there and keep in communication
the rest of the guild as your Council representative.
A meeting was held Saturday,
listed there. I deeply apologize to Eonwe for jumping too quickly into
and not asking for his report. I'll try to do better next time, good
Ouch. Did it to Turgon too.
Sorry. Whisper me, guys, when I forget!
Tulkas-(Valar): Was Luthien based on
Edith, JRRT's wife?
Turgon answered yes, and
no one disagreed. What a tribute!
Erestor-(V): Are Orcs immortal, in the
sense that the
Elves are in not dying of old age? Of course they can be killed by the
Orodreth-(V) and Beleg-(V)
promptly answered: yes. :)
Elwing-(V): If they had a place
go like the Elves went into the West, I don't think their personalities
allow long survival. (Several others said words to the same effect.)
Orodreth: Death was a gift from
Why give corruptions a gift, or take it from the Elves?
Raukoluin-(Valar): Would be tales
Elwing: They'd kill each other
Beleg: They normally died in
Raukoluin: They're too ethereal
to make a big deal of.
Beleg: Doesn't mention them dying
of old age.
Orodreth: Azog was a big mean
Elwing: Maybe timed death was
included (in the making of Orcs)
Orodreth: Who needs (an Orc)
leader if they have Morgoth or Sauron?
Fangorn: Length of time that an
lives was not considered because it is unthinkable that such
neighbors would continue with us long.
Orodreth: Yes, they are immortal,
but for all intents and purposes, no.
Eonwe: Morgoth could not affect
Erestor: Orcs once were Elves.
Quickbeam: "Were", yes.
Eonwe: Even he Valar of Valinor
did not have that power.
Orodreth: Luthien and Arwen's
immortality was taken.
It was the granting of their
Eonwe: The taking of Eru's gifts
within the power of Eru alone. Manwe did it through Eru's permission.
Erestor: So Orcs are...
Discussion continued after
this decision. Some comments:
Eonwe: Two Orcs at Cirith Ungol,
and Gorbag, remembered the Dark Years before Sauron lost the Ring.
Concerning age: No Orc
could be older than the oldest Elf.
Earliest Orcs may have been
when they ran from Orome, believing him to be Morgoth's Dark Rider
to cause this confusion. Elves who stayed to investigate saw the
difference in the Rider of Light; these were the curious and brave. The
so ran and were captured, changed into Orcs.
Sept. 6, 2003
Orodreth-(V), who expects to add more in the future.
WarCraft meeting: Bnet East, Clan Vala channel, 1pm
Eonwe (presiding), Gil-galad (popped in),
Gwaihir, Haldir, Orodreth, Varda (scribing)
Luthien has TFT now, Gwaihir reports.
Eonwe is updating the Games page. He will
wipe out all present info and start from scratch with our answers.
Message Board: planning Tales of Lore section, for
out your defeats or victories in WC3 in role-playing fashion, using
skills to paint a word-picture.
Gwaihir suggested the Message Board could use a spot
discussing other authors as well, a desire long held in the guild as
Eonwe and the Shamans (Gwaihir and Draugluin) are
types of rewards for various guild actions, such as Tolkien knowledge,
Guild tourney participation and wins, Bnet tourney participation,
stories of your WC3 defeats and victories on Message Board.
Eonwe's map tutorial will be going up with
the re-vamped page.
Need maps for guild use, Tolkien theme, co-op
First Age was suggested as a good time to make maps
Gwaihir's friend's map is nearing completion stage
for testing: Zoator TD2. Not Tolkien, but probably fun.
So far, players who said they would like to
Tourney are Aragorn, Bombur, Boromir, Draugluin, Elrond, Eonwe,
Sept. 2, 2003
welcome to the Valar Guild!
Adunaphel passed the full member test with Irmo in DAoC. Favorite LotR
is Legolas: less high-hearted than high elves, more open to short and
Aug. 31, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East, channel Clan Vala 5:00
Caranthir, Elwing, Eonwe, Feanor, Huan,
Meriadoc, Thror, Turgon, Turin, Varda (presiding)
Erestor emailed that he would be at
work, but emailed a Tolkien topic.
Thingol emailed. He's learning to speak in
getting ready to spend 9 months there. He's unsure if he will have
access, but is still one of us. See letter Aug 29.
Turgon's email is now settled as
Turgon has a new job, so he won't be able to
play as much.
Board (MB): Turgon set up a message
board for the whole guild, with parts for Tolkien discussion, gaming
WC3, DAoC, EQ. Check it out and see if you'd like to adopt this one for
Lord of the Rings Fanatics Plaza
- lots of goodies, both movie and books
Maps: added link to Turgon's page
Games page: Eonwe reported that he
will be doing another massive update. Please email him your updated
info. He will also be switching how he makes the page to his own HTML
programming for better control.
Arathorn talked with online Battle.net tech support. He reports
they've had problems with players being "tagged" after being
and unable to join unpassworded games unless the game creator was
as well. The tag goes away after a few days. The tagging problem can be
around by using a passworded game.
Valar Guild D2X bank accounts are
operating! Lots of goodies are available but we can always use more. We
use help in finishing up set suits including low levels. We could also
your help in putting cubes on the mules.
Cubes can be picked up if you put
down (on the ground or maybe in a bank mule). There are three locations
cubes: Halls of the Dead and Travincial were two mentioned. The more
in the game, the more cubes drop.
Eonwe is conducting meetings for
on Saturdays at 1pm ESDT in channel Clan Vala. He had to miss the first
due to work, but has been at all since then. It's a good time to get
with buddies for games, news, map making, discussing strategy, and
Turgon missed the DAoC meeting,
couldn't get a response from other DAoC folk about it before his game
They were busily raiding and active though!
1. Orodreth's topic: Which books should we
use for timeline canon?
LotR and Sil.
2. Feanor: What color of hair did silvan elves have?
3. Thror: What happened to the Entwives? (Lots of
4. Arathorn's emailed topic: nature of Huorns. (Lots
older types could tap into the primeval state of darkness.
Eonwe- the darkness
Huorns made was used in righteous anger, while the Nazgul used theirs
Aug. 29, 2003
Letter from Thingol:
I just wanted to send you and all of my Valar
buddies greetings from Germany. I've been here for
about a month now and I'm having a great time. My
german language training is coming along nicely and I
can almost keep a decent conversation (much emphasis
on the almost part
I hope everyone is doing fine without me. I
really miss all of those games of D2 with my
Valar buddies, but the real world was calling me.
After my language training is over I will have a host
family for 9 months in the city of Chemnitz. I'm not
sure if they will have a computer that I will be able
to use, but if they will let me install D2 then I
might be able to jump online for a meeting or two.
I'm keeping up with the news page whenever I get
a chance, so I'm not completely out of the loop. I
hope to keep everyone informed of my adventures in
Europe. Namarie for now. / Elu Thingol
P.S. Maybe the 1.10 patch won't be out until I get
back, that way I won't miss out on too many goodies
Aug. 28, 2003
is back, with a new email since his old one is filling up with junk. He
to make the next meeting, which would be great! Welcome back!
Turgon is setting up a message board for DAoC and for the main guild
games and Tolkien. It's still being worked out, but is in useable shape
His email is now settled.
Aug. 26, 2003
Letter from Arathorn:
I talked online with Bnet support
today and they admitted that they have been having problems with
players being 'tagged' after being disconnected from a game and thus
not being able to join other games unless those who created them were
tagged as well. This is some kind of problem that fixes itself in a few
days but as such is an annoyance when it happens. SO, it has nothing to
do with our firewalls, it's a Bnet 'anomaly'. That's why we've been
getting the errors at times. Only way to get around it right away is to
create a passworded game. They work fine in all cases.
Aug. 25, 2003
Lord of the Rings Fanatics Plaza
- links to websites for LotR and Tolkien. It has a
It has quizes for rank points. Members are grouped in kingdoms and have
AD&D style play. The site also has merchandising. It is run by
Kooijman. Suggested by Gwaihir. It links back to Annals
Added Turgon's Tolkien site, since he has some beautiful maps on
it. Right, your fellow Valarite, Turgon-(V)!
Valar Guild D2X Bank
Listing of the D2X bank accounts
which all members may put their surplus items (mathoms) or take out for
They are not intended to be taken outside the guild.
Aug. 24, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet 5pm ESDT East channel Clan
Arathorn, Caranthir, Draugluin, Grima (popped
and out), Gwaihir, Khamul (popped in and out), FarmerMaggott, Orodreth,
Turgon, ValarGuild.bot, Varda
Many members are either back in school now or
about to be.
Legolas emailed to let us
know he's still alive, just unable to make the past few meetings or be
on Bnet much recently.
Thror goes back Tuesday.
FarmerMaggott goes back
in a week or two.
Orodreth goes back Sept 2.
Sauron and Eowyn
go back to university tomorrow.
Tolkien Encyclopedia search program V.2:
Orodreth is working on Version 2.
asked for helpers to copy the article to the text field in the
then add the name, author, date, and related articles. If you're
email Orodreth at Musics4me@wonderwarp.com
Arathorn's router crashed,
his firewall, and his comp picked up the nachi virus. To get rid of it,
learned that a person can go to www.sophos.com for instructions to
it or a removal program. Also, a patch can be picked up from MicroSoft.
Gwaihir mentioned the Lord of the Rings Fanatics Plaza
and suggested we link to them. They have a link to Elatan-(Valar's)
Annals of Arda.
Varda checked on it and will put
on the Links page. It is collecting links to websites for LotR and
It has a discussion forum. It has quizes for rank points. Members are
in kingdoms and have an AD&D style play. The site also has
It is run by Philip Kooijman. (Went on Links page Monday.)
Well of Souls: Orodreth reporting
Orodreth on Sept 2nd will
the Elvondel world on a few WoS sites. The bare bones version should be
in December. Email, or meet him online on Bnet where he often is, to
play and brainstorm to improve the world. Turgon and Erestor
at the meeting, and have been helping.
Dark Age of Camelot: Turgon
Application for the alliance is
in progress. A decision to accept the Valar Guild into the alliance is
Guild crafters are now available
in nearly all crafts at the highest levels.
Turgon is looking for a new place
host the DAoC forum, as Irmo requested. Raime, ex-Lindir, is no longer
the old forum and has not set up anyone else to do it and has been out
touch on this matter, so it has been unattended. Turgon has several
locations and Orodreth had some more possibles. It is possible that in
process we may also find a new location for the main guild's Tolkien
Email suggestions to Turgon.
Lungorthin is handling the DAoC
Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction aka D2X:
Guild Bank Accounts were
by Varda and enthusiastically approved by the membership. These are D2X
accounts open to all guild members. The type of items should go with
account and character name. Use the game pass. If the game pass
so will the accounts. Turgon and Varda are making the accounts to keep
chaos. All members may add or take items from the accounts, and play
characters to bring them up to Hell difficulty if you like, but please
kill the Cow King! Some items have already been added to the bank by
Varda, Arathorn, Erestor, Draugluin and no doubt others who were
Accounts created after the
Varda (elite and exceptional, will be making ValarSetsii-V as this is a
Varda (has sets termed Normal Difficulty on Bnet's Arreat Summit.
small for all, so will have to make ValarSetsNii-V also.
Aug. 19, 2003
We have phone service again. :)
Aug. 17, 2003
Our phone line was cut a few blocks down on
thus the lateness of this posting. On the plus side, we escaped the
for a while!
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East, 5:00pm ESDT, channel
Arathorn, Beleg, Elrond, Feanor/ Curufinwe,
Gwaihir, Orodreth, Thorondor, Varda (presiding)
Eol dropped by after the meeting and gamed with us.
Arathorn's router is temporarily
due to an "upgrade" from the router company. It disconnected every 30
so he had to mail it back. He is still with us by connecting directly
Eonwe was working, hoped to come to the
Gwaihir got his university textbooks a few
days ago, will be taking class in Java.
Haldir was getting his hair cut during the
meeting, according to Beleg.
Orodreth resolved his computer space problem
and is once again back on StarCraft. He'll be working on computers for
the school, at
Thorondor finished his year in the Finnish
army and will be starting university.
Links page: TheOneRing.net (not to be
confused with Virbius' OneRing.net
Hobbits: "Pippin", by
Humor: "The Pint of
Eggnog", by Laurelin Caline
Men: Updated Kings of
Gondor section, still needs a lot of work. Feel free to send in
Arathorn requested aid in
sets. Since the Trading Board is down, here we go: He needs:
Visage (received Visage after meeting), Rule
Well of Souls: Orodreth
The major server, Aerianell, went
for an indeterminate time. Orodreth turned his server public to fill
need, but for our guild or others needing a private server, he offers a
Beleg-(V)'s topic: Why did Saruman take on some of
interests, such as pipeweed, hobbits, and the Shire?
Aug. 15, 2003
Men: Updated the
Kings of Gondor, added to the name list in the Encyc.
Aug. 12, 2003
- huge Tolkien site. Includes art, fan-fic, music. I requested
to use some of their original art by linking to the Tolkien
and hope for a positive response of some sort.
Aug. 11, 2003
"The Pint of
Eggnog", by Laurelin Caline
Aug. 10, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East, 5pm ESDT, channel Clan
Age of Camelot report by Turgon
Members (10): Ancalagon, Arathorn,
Eonwe, Erestor, Gwaihir (gavel), Huan, Orodreth, Thror, Turgon, Varda
Visitor (1): Beorn@Azeroth (was in the
guild earlier as Beorn, email firstname.lastname@example.org) and would like to
Members seen after the meeting (5):
Caranthir-V, Glorfindel-V, Curufinwe-V@Azeroth, Oropher-V@Azeroth.
the old Gwindor, dropped by briefly while working on his other
probably testing his comp, said hi, going to college classes at night
working in the day, so he doesn't have game time.
Membership: 149 on Member page
Haldir is back.
Khamul will be absent next week, on
Thror goes back to school Aug 26th.
Turin's comp is misbehaving so that he can't
get on SC, but he expects to have a new comp by next month.
Tolkien Poetry: "Bitter End", by
"Erynodil" - LotR fan club
"From Pointy Ears to Grima's
Tears: A Tolkien Investigation"
AD&D: Turgon and Gwaihir
Moved to 8:30 pm Friday since
works at the previous 7pm meeting time. Unfortunately other members are
running into work conflicts, so a proper game hasn't been played
Ancalagon is DM for three games
in off-computer life.
Arathorn asked who at the meeting
plays D2X: Arathorn, Erestor, Thror ("once in a blue moon"), Turgon
Varda. Gwaihir is playing D2X 1.10 beta.
D2X 1.10 Beta Gwaihir reporting
New patches came out for both PC
Mac betas. It removed the items from all but three of his characters.
reporting (Bnet crashed the whole channel during the report, but I
caught this much)
Sunday meeting 3:30pm ESDT,
Irmo's Yrma character
achieved Elder status, topping out at level 50.
Melkor reached Legendary
The group is working on
WarCraft3/The Frozen Throne:
Clan Vala, the WC3/TFT branch
its first meeting Saturday August 9 at 1pm ESDT in channel Clan Vala. Report
minutes are listed on Aug 9.
Ancalagon's topic: What was the fate
of the entwives?
Arathorn's topic: How did Gwaihir and
Gandalf meet? There is a comment about fixing his wing.
Much other discussion spun off these two, including
Melkor's ultimate fate.
Aug. 9, 2003
WC3/TFT Meeting: 1pm ESDT, Bnet
East channel Clan Vala (Bnet only allowed 4 letters)
26 members in WC3
or TFTwere still listed by Bnet for Clan Vala last Sunday.
Grima, Sauron, Oropher, Varda
Eonwe/Fionwe intended to
a meeting for WC3/TFT players and sent out an email to that effect.
power went off for two hours including that time period, then he had to
to work. He's now a shift supervisor.
Email addresses need
updates or box cleanings for Frodo, Grima, and Quickbeam. Grima said
his is <email@example.com>
Some members met in the channel
Tourneys: There, Grima
he would like to see more members in the Bnet Tourney games with him,
is willing to help train them. A tourney started up 45 minutes after
time, perfect for members to join up and go to it. Grima went.
Drop danger: Eonwe had
that the following WC3/TFT characters be brought to Clan Vala before
drops them from the clan for inactivity: Draugluin, Eowyn, Fangorn,
Leaflock, Varda. Eowyn, Fangorn, and Varda came in and are no longer in
We need to remember to show up in Clan Vala at least once before the 28
mark is reached each month. Coming to meetings in WC3 suits can take
of that, as well as gaming.
To check how long since your
was last on, double click your name, click Vala (your clan), and it
show your info. Or go to the WC3 Ladder page (top right), on the bottom
is box called "Player Search", type in your account name and click on
WC3 World Editor: Eonwe will
be placing an outline page for his planned WC3 World editor tutorial in
the next week. It will go from simple issues, like selecting and
placing units, to more complex issues, like actually editing and
changing those units. Once this is up, anyone who wishes may
contribute a section or more.
Aug. 5, 2003
"Bitter End" by
Laurelin Caline, about the flight of the elves.
Erynodil - LotR
fan club. Includes the movies, photos, Andune's elvish lessons,
recipes, and LotR links. Made and suggested by SheElf Archer. Best
in Explorer rather than Netscape
The Boy with the Bow
- a traditional archery-enthusiast's guide (knows modern and old-style
archery) to Jackson's film of the Fellowship of the Ring. Well-written
Ellen Brundige. Very interesting comments on the amazing detail and
of these dreadfully difficult old-style bows and their use by such
as Legolas, Aragorn, Haldir's Galadrim, Faramir's rangers, and
Least Favorite Orc". Includes photos.
From Pointy Ears to Grima's
Tears: A Tolkien Investigation.
- careful research and thinking on both books and movies. By Ellen
This is the home page for the bow article, with a great deal more.
Aug. 3, 2003
Sunday Meetings Battlenet,
Dark Age of Camelot
Battlenet, East Realm, 5:00pm ESDT, channel Clan Vala
Thror plans to go to Ozfest Tuesday
Turgon was present at the meeting, but was
in DAoC as the only healer in the Raid, very busy there, so he could
give brief comments and no DAoC report.
Members: Ancalagon, Beleg,
Eonwe/Fionwe (gavel), Erestor, Grima, Gwaihir (gavel), Khamul, Legolas,
Thror, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Visitor: Irken (Khamul's friend)
Please correct your links and bookmarks for
moved pages below, and email Varda or Eonwe if you discover a missing
hairy or not. Try reloading the page first.
Poetry: pages moved to new folder to handle long poetry
pages moved to Alatar's server: valarguild.org
Encyc/Hobbits: "Bilbo Baggins", "Meriadoc Brandybuck", both by
Stories: "Of Eldir and Dori" by Laurelin Caline
D2X Middle-earth mod:
Caranthir has his Tolkien
mod working now. Look for him, fellows of Middle-earth
Varda's Topic: How did the Council of Elrond
Topic: Fates of Sauron, Saruman, Melkor
Melkor was in the Void, still had
influence, would return for the Last Battle
Erestor: The Flame Imperishable
could be taken back by Eru.
Varda: The removed Flame could be
reworked into a new improved version of the flawed feas.
Topic: Nature of Eru and Ainur
Bodies of the Ainur were like
except for some who had gone to evil and become identified with their
They were energy beings.
Aug. 1, 2003
Eldir and Dori", by Laurelin Caline
Poetry has moved to this new location. Link change has been
made on the guild index and story page.
July 30, 2003
Baggins" by Laurelin Caline
Brandybuck", by Laurelin Caline
July 28, 2003
Eonwe has transferred the
Games pages to Alatar's valarguild.org server.
July 27, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet,
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battlenet
East Realm, 5:00 pm ESDT, channel Clan Vala
Aragorn, Arathorn, Caranthir, Elrond, Feanor,
(gavel), Huan, Orodreth, Thingol, Tulkas/Astaldo, Varda (presiding)
(later: Grima played with us, just returned to Bnet,
found out the meeting place changed)
Beleg is camping this weekend. Have
Haldir is on vacation.
Thingol is heading to Germany on a cultural
exchange program. He said his goodbyes for a while. Finwe is his real
Poetry: "Lament of Arwen"
by Laurelin Caline
Humor: "Answering Machine
Messages that might have been left by LotR folk" also by Laurelin Caline
Most are moving to Alatar's
www.valarguild.org, after the disappearance of Tom Bombadil's Ten Peaks
and email. Pages already moved and on the Guild index are EverQuesters
Diablo all versions:
The original Iron Man page is no
up. We are trying to reconstruct how the game was originally played and
it on our Tourney page. Some is there now. We would especially like to
the name of the originating person to credit. Our Fellowship game,
on Iron Man with the variant worked out by Ulmo-(Valar), is very
with the same scoring style.
Feanor-(V) now has Morgoth's
Ring and Peoples of Middle-earth of the
Histories of Middle-earth as has often been recommended, and
told us some
goodies from them while we waited to start the meeting.
Varda-(Valar)'s topic: The rangers' activities
were mainly implied. What are your thoughts on what they were?
Gwaihir: Hunting corrupted animals, orcs, signs of
Elrond: Rangering. Guarding, observing, hunting,
for good, learning to fight (training and experience)
Astaldo: Observing and reporting
Orodreth: Emulating Gandalf on smaller level.
Feanor: Scouts collected info for the Wise on the
happenings of the North
Orodreth: Aragorn went to Gondor as well
Feanor: protected Shire
Orodreth: always protected the Shire, silent
Feanor-(V)'s topic: Who were the most
Galadriel, Glorfindel, Cirdan, and Elrond all had
This included a discussion of the two Glorfindels
and two Galdors.
Sunday Meeting Dark
Age of Camelot: Sunday 7-27-03, 3:30 PM EDST
Alatarch, Aurgus, Austi, Gelmirv, Ferali, Gerontius,
Gorgenhad, Jarn, Lashus, Turgonv, Yrma (pres.).
Alatar's house now holds an alchemy table
and an arcane merchant. More power to Alatar!
Yrma’s house will soon have a lathe.
The way to use the Guild Vault and the
The Guild Vault pages 1-3 are
to all for taking and bringing gifts. Gifts that are there longer than
week are sold to NPC (result goes to Guild Fund). Pages 4-5 are for
transfers, mainly crafting transfers.
Everyone can give self-crafted
to Yrma to put them for sale at the consignment merchant. Name your
and when sold the result will be returned to you.
Welcome to Ferali, our newest member who
could even attend the meeting.
Welcome to Aurgus, who was back with us
after a period of otherworldliness.
Valar has formally applied to become part of the
of Anam na Eireann, Arrym Sidhe, Fellowship of Dihn, Lema en Estela,
of Eire, Tuatha Da Dannan and Vigil.
A decision is anxiously but patiently awaited.
Realm versus realm
With help from the Fellowship of Dihn (Deelia,
Gilrondaar), and Maobhin and Bliik, Valar could claim their first Keep
the Frontiers this week! Alatarsong and Gerontius Took and Yrma
A memorable feat!
Gerontius reported back from Saturday’s Tolkien
What happened to the elves who disappeared into holes? Did they evolve
hobbits? To be continued Saturday aug 2, 3:30 EDST in the Guildhouse!
free to bring a topic of your own as well!
Last saldo (July 13): 84 g
Expenses since then:
Stipendia spellcrafting 1000 g
(Ontius) and 583 g (Gerontiusia).
Yrma and Alatar bought the houses
the Guildhouse to right and left in Fullerton/Kilcullen.
now a spellcrafting/alchemy table and arcane merchants.
has portals to DL, DC and TNN.
Donations since then:
Yrma 1501 g
And then Yrma and Aalatar each
spent about 4 plat on the new houses.
At the announcement that the Guild Fund is now
empty, members came forward to donate:
Aurgus 51 g
Ferali 25 g
Gerontius 164 g
Lashus 30 g
The Guild Fund is thus now filled with 270 g.
After the meeting Alatarv, Entwise, Fedelone,
Gerontiusia, Maigan, Morgothv and Turukanov had a full group hunt,
in Treibh Cailte, then at the entrance of the Coruscating Mines. And a
successful and enjoyable Guild Hunt it was!
July 26, 2003
Answering Machine messages of the
LotR folk: by Laurelin Caline. Sent July 25.
July 25, 2003
"Lament of Arwen", by
July 21, 2003
for the Valar Guild has moved permanently. On Guild index.
temporarily until Eonwe's page is back up, this older page by Varda is
on the Guild index. Added info about Iron Man since the original Iron
page disappeared, and it was mentioned at the last meeting. Please note
the guild's Fellowship Quest is very similar..
July 20, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet,
Dark Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting: Battlenet
East, channel Clan Vala, 5:00pm ESDT
Gwaihir (gavel), Haldir, Khamul, Legolas, Orodreth, Thror, Turgon,
bot, Varda (presiding)
Visitors: Horny-Toads@Azeroth (pleasant)
New: Amarie. DAoC-only at this time.
Dropped for inactivity: Argon, Elladan,
Eonwe emailed that he would be at the movies
during the meeting: League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Haldir expects to be missing from the next
meeting and game week while on vacation.
Name versions: If a member is having
difficulty coming up with versions of his name, he can email Irmo
who will look up the versions Tolkien actually used, or translate it
a different Tolkien language. Meanwhile, feel free to play with such
as using a dot or underscore or abbreviated class or use type after the
Maia and Vala recognition: More discussion
Maiar and Valar naming was held by the members in the channel. There is
feeling in the Council and membership that gaming is no longer allowing
the freedom to take an existing character and re-name it, and that it
therefore unfair to ask a Maia or even a Vala to change his name to
his new existence. Suggestions to make such persons recognizable when
services are required were: on the Diablos and SC/BW, the Valar tag
be only for testers, (although some long names can't fit the Valar on
end); this is already happening in actual use and could easily be
In WC3 and rpgs, the same guild tag is applied automatically to all
although the V and Valar is still being written into the WC3/TFT names.
seem to have the most difficulty. The honor is listed on the Members
and Activity page, and active members know who the testers are or can
them up on the pages, so all anyone really has to do is ask any member.
People who can't test wanted to know what they could
when they found a potential recruit (nice person, read LotR, games
This is also on the FAQ page, but bears repeating in short. If you can
a tester, get them together if possible. If no testers are available,
the person the domain name (www.valarguild.org/)
and to come to a meeting. In Bnet we currently meet in Clan Vala at
pm ESDT. Be sure to include the time zone! The person can also email Varda, and it's nice to let
Varda or Eonwe
know if you're sending someone, a point for your recruit and gives you
credit counting towards your Maia honor. With luck, your recruit will
your name correctly, but don't count on it. If you scout, it's best to
someone you enjoyed chatting and/or gaming with. Spamming is generally
and is bad for our reputation. Of course if you start up a Tolkien chat
with someone in the channel and others join in, that's not spamming but
to the entertainment value. Expect to need eyewash after being in
Ten Peaks server has gone down. This
Tom Bombadil's email, who handle the server and had his email there. It
means these pages are not currently up: Games, EverQuesters, Trading
and Tourneys. If the server doesn't come up soon, we may have to assume
space is no longer available and move those pages permanently
Some will start moving at least temporarily this week. This News page,
is on Alatar's www.valarguild.org server.
Hobbits: New article on
"Smeagol", by fellow Tolkien fan, Laurelin Caline.
Stories: New story by
Elrond-V, "The Battle of Five Armies, from Fili's Point of View"
We discussed showing up daily
meeting time, including hour before and after, to meet and break into
games we wished. Those who want to play WC3 will naturally pop into
Clan Vala as soon as they go to chat. Others will probably meet in
Valar and be popping in and out of there. Of course we will continue to
at the times we want to, but this gives us a target to shoot for to
buddies. We can also /who the two channels.
Khamul says any time is good for him. Gwaihir has an
work schedule, but figures an hour after regular meeting time would be
he could show up. Varda's time is unstable, but will give it a shot.
members didn't comment. At least we can all make an effort to pop by
meeting time or whisper a greeting. Of course we game for as long as we
tend to keep coming back to it when bored with other games.
a great way to come to Bnet inexpensively for meetings.
Well of Souls:
Orodreth and Khamul have been
Khamul no longer playing.
Turgon's group has not been
getting together lately. They were meeting Fridays.
Highly active. Turgon not playing
as much, more on Bnet currently, so he was available to give a live
But Turgon said two more houses have been added, increasing the
of the guild branch there greatly. He also said the houses were
by the generous Yrma's gold (Irmo).
Ulmo and Taglos are running even
level 65, very high! Oropherv is very active and Elberethv is still
now and then. I haven't heard lately from the others who are scattered
Turgon's topic: Gender in the Ainur.
Turgon: Are Ainur genderless
naturally, since they put on bodies as we would clothes?
All agreed that Ainur used bodies
as they used clothes.
The evil Ainur tended to keep the
bodies instead of switching them out frequently.
Gwaihir: Quoted from the
"Ainulindale" in the Silmarillion,
that they put on the bodies according to the difference of temperament
had even from the beginning, including for gender. Quote below:
"But when they desire to clothe themselves the Valar
upon them forms some as of male and some as of female; for that
of temper they had even from their beginning, and it is but bodied
in the choice of each, not made by the choice, even as with us male and
may be shown by the raiment but is not made thereby."
July 17, 2003
Hobbits: Laurelin Caline wrote
"Smeagol". Did you know Gollum's name is really Trahald? This
was actually received July 15.
July 15, 2003
Elrond wrote "The Battle of Five
Armies, from Fili's Point of View
July 14, 2003
Inactivity drops: Argon, Elladan, Faramir, Hurin,
Nain. These names are now free.
July 13, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild! Amarie has
been playing on Dark Age of Camelot as the Odernia with our guild
She passed the Member test with Irmo today! She is from Quebec, Canada,
Cheerful and enthusiastic, she's 31 and teaches history. She's read the
and LotR and is trying to read the Sil which is extra tough since her
copy is in English. She plays DAoC only. Her favorite character is
who was always prepared to bear the burden and make the best of it.
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting: Battlenet
East, 5:00 pm ESDT, gathered folk from channel Valar and used channel
report by Eonwe, additions by Varda. Many voices heard
Members (13): Alatar, Arathorn,
(presiding), Eol, Erestor, Finwe, Gwaihir (gavel), Legolas, Orodreth,
Tulksa (before main meeting), Turgon, Varda
Over-the-shoulder hellos: Elwing, Eowyn,
Note to all: We are using channel Clan
Vala for meetings, the clan channel given to us through WC3's Clan
Support. Unfortunately non-WC3 members cannot enter until there
is a WC3 member in there. Likely it requires a Shaman or the Cheiftain
to be there and make the channel public. If the channel is not
open and it's not meeting time yet, don't worry, someone will be there
shortly :} Do a /who Clan Vala to see if anyone is in yet, or
wait in our main channel. Eonwë (aka Fionwë on WC3)
usually passes through there on the way to the meeting anyway.
Membership: 153 on Members page for the whole guild
Tulkas came in before the meeting, but had to
go before the meeting started. he reports he will be moving 7 hrs
east of where he and his wife currently live. They were married
last week, so congratulations to them!
Two of our DAoC members passed their LotR tests and
became Folco(a rl friend of Gelmir) and Amarie. Congratulations!
Huan is back from Nevada.
Ossë e-mailed Eonwe, says he has WC3:TFT and
would like to join in the Clan activities.
Yesterday was Gwaihir's 2 year Anniversary.
Congrats to Gwaihir!
Orodreth reports that, due to classes he will be
taking in the next school year, he may not have room for
Starcraft. Suggestions for ways to come to meetings were given,
including the bnet edition of WC2 and installing a spawn of Starcraft.
If, for any reason, you are unable to be around for
a while, make sure you keep in contact by e-mailing at least once a
month. You can e-mail Varda as general all-branch and activity
Contact person or the Vala currently handling your game (for example,
DAoC members can e-mail Irmo, WC3 can email Eonwe).
Orc page: "Orcs" by
Ten Peaks server:
Problems with the Ten Peak server
last week, and with Tom Bombadil's email on that server. Affecting
Games, EverQuesters, others
Battlenet Games: Diablos, SC/BW, WC3's
LoD beta patch is available for
users now, as well as PC users. Good idea to make it separate from
D2X, the same way we do for the Tolkien mod.
We can always use a good new SC
or BW Tolkien-style map!
1. Clan Vala tag. If you
haven't had a chance to be included in the Warcraft 3 branch (most of
you have), stop in and try to catch me, Draugluin, or Gwaihir to get
added. Account names are Fionwe-Valar, Draugluin-Valar, and
Gwaihir-Valar. You need to be on Azeroth Realm on WC3 or TFT.
2. Clan upkeep. Blizzard
has instituted "Clan upkeep". Once you join the WC3 branch, you need to
log in at least once every 28 days to keep our Guild considered
active. If fewer than 10 people do this, we will lose the WC3
3. WC3-only meetings.
Eonwe would like to have a small informal meeting either weekly or
bimonthly just for WC3 guys. This is not to replace the Sunday
meeting, which Eonwe encourages all who can make it to go to. It
is a chance to
get together and discuss strategies, mapmaking, WC3 issues, and even
brag a bit. Notes (if any) from this can be used to present a
report at the Sunday meeting (can be presented by anyone who wants to
present it). Business
for this meeting will probably be quite small most of the time, and
can go to the second part of the meeting's purpose: to give a second
(besides Sunday) during the week when we know a majority of WC3'ers
be on for gaming. Incidentally, it will also fullfill our clan
quite easily if at least 10 of us are able to get together.
So now here's the question: how many of you
would show up for this and what day would you most want it (and weekly
Email Eonwe or Varda.
4. Tourneys. Gwaihir has
volunteered to set up guild player v player tournaments (and perhaps
other types?) to help us keep our skills sharp (just remember we're all
friends). He will release more information when he's ready, but I
would suggest those interested to speak up so he knows you're
there. Eonwe believes Gwaihir also has some other things, but
he'll let him tell them when he's ready :}
5. Practice games. Be
that Grunt, Shaman, and Chieftain non-custom games count toward our
rating, so it never hurts to practice with friends :}
6. Maps. We are in need
of Guild-made Tolkien-themed maps for official Guild tournies. If
you have interest in making maps or skill with the WC3 world editor, we
urge you to get out there and start making maps :}
7. Map Tutorial. Eonwe is
tring to put together a Tutorial for using the Warcraft 3 World Editor,
starting with simple concepts like making the terrain, then
moving to more complex issues like Triggers and eventually character
editing. Anyone with skill using the map editor or at least a
bit of good old curiosity and the willingness to experiment with the
Editor are welcome to to provide information for it.
As always, we get what we're willing to put
in. We urge you to join in and participate in the ways you can :}
More on WC3/TFT Tourneys:
Gwaihir here... as Eonwe
said, I've taken it upon myself to organize tourneys... and I'd REALLY
like to get one going soon. It'd be very good practice for us all and
it'd help us learn what we're good at and what we're not... and it'll
help us to get a little more used to the game...
I'd appreciate everyone who is interested e-mailing
me with what type of gaming they prefer most, team, single, etc... how
much wc3/tft experience they have... naturally, it wouldn't be fair to
match up the two players who play most often together in a 2v2
Also, for teams, tell me if you'd rather it be
chosen teammates or pre-matched...
One more thing, for pre-matched, should we go that
route, e-mail me the name of any people you wouldn't want to be matched
with(I mean... we'rea ll friends here in Valar, but even among us,
there're bound to be SOME conflicts between some of us... and we don't
want to match you up with someone you don't get along well with :)) I
know I've had my problems with a member or two over my two years here
I think that's all for the time being... will get
back to you all should I think of any other comments/queries/concerns
Off-Battlenet Games: AD&D, Well of Souls, DAoC, EQ
AD&D meetings have not made
it due to various circumstances, so Turgon is working on a solution to
improve attendance. DM is Gerontius. For more information, e-mail
Well of Souls RPG:
Orodreth reported: E-mail
Orodreth for more information if any of you are interested in Well of
Souls. Also, let me know if you give it a try and decide you like
it. Remember to keep your Gaming info updated :}
Turgon gave this report:
"Kindest regards from every DAoC
playing Valar member, including Alatar (who made it to the Bnet meeting
also), Gerontius, Irmo, Gelmir, Gaffer, and many others.
The Guild on DAoC has implemented
new guild rankings, giving better use for roleplaying nature.
With Royal Donations of several
members with Irmo leading the way, the DAoC branch now has a guild
house in Hibernia.
Several of our members have
reached their 20th season today (note by Eonwë: season is
equivalent to level) and thus are awarded with bearing our guild
Irmo reached 45 this week, making
rapid way towards elder character."
"Tolkien chats are now held on
DAoC, on Saturdays occasionally."
Congrats to our comrades on Dark Age of
Camelot! It is good to hear they are doing well!
Varda: Favorite member in the Fellowship? (the
Fellowship itself, not the entire book)
Eonwë: Did the Valar succeed in their task? (to
form Arda as they had sung it)
This topic later changed to parts played by the
Valar and into in the end a discussion of what part Namo played in the
Music. There is no known mention of Namo's song (so go out and
find one! :}), but we do know what he does in Arda: he is the Doomsman
of the Valar and one of the Feanturi, Masters of Spirits. He
summons the dead to his Halls.
Discussion turned then to the movies and whether
Legolas should've had golden hair. Hobbit and Unfinished
Tales were cited for golden hair.
Sunday Meeting: Dark Age of
Camelot Percival/Hibernia 3:30pm ESDT July 13
report by Irmo-(Valar) aka Yrma
July 11, 2003
Members present (12): Alatarch, Gaffersong,
Gelmirv, Gerontiusia, Gorgenhad, Jarn, Lashus, Morgothv, Odernia,
Orome, Turgonv, Yrma (pres.).
We celebrated the fact that Valar exist as a Guild
in Hibernia (Percival) for a half year! (since januari 11). Many of us
gathered for this anniversary occasion: twelve members sets a new
record for Valar-DaoC meeting attendance!
As a surprise anniversary gift Yrma
presented to Valar a brandnew Guildhouse. The house is in Fullerton
(nr. 9), House # 3700.
It has a grandmaster merchant, a Domnann portal, a forge, a consignment
merchant, a Vault keeper and a Guild Vault.
The meeting was held in the new house.
The house can be accessed in four ways:
1. fast: Buy a portal token and
port to Guild Hearth from either Drum Ligen or Domnann.
2. slow: Enter the housing area
from TNN North, buy a horse ticket to Ainslee, at Ainslee walk NE and
East left of river bank to Kilcullen, stables Gowan, buy horse ticket
to Cassidei, at Cassidei type /houseface guild and walk the few yards
3. very slow, unless
bard/chanter: Enter housing area from TNN North, type /houseface guild
and walk East and Southeast to House. Retype /houseface guild now and
4. very fast, but hardly
recommendable: type /release house after dying.
The house is both internally and
eternally fully decorated (meaning that nothing further can be added
unless something is removed first <grin>).
Pages 1-3 in the Guild Vault are
mathoms (gifts), to be taken or put there freely by any member. Please
be selective with what you put in there! Pages 4-5 are craft materials
for transferability reasons, not to be touched.
Domnann portal can at request be changed temporarily by Yrma/Fantura to
a Tir Na Nog portal or a Drum Ligen portal. Later there will be
alternatives to the GM merchant as well.
Thanks to donations by Orome,
Alatar and Gerontius the house got a bindstone. Type /release house if
you want to release at home.
Jarn, Gelmir and Gerontiusisa
received their emblemed cloak because they came of age (20th
season). More power to them! Congratulations!
Yrma explained the new ranking
system The resulting ranks for each character are now on the Message Board .
Members are requested to help
Yrma, Fantura or Morgothv with the implementation of the new ranking
system for their characters.
Previous saldo (June 29): 941 g
Expenses since then:
Guildhouse plus ingredients 8500
Bindstone 1000 g,
Stipendia spellcrafting 2231 g
Alchemy 472 g (Gerontusia),
Member armor 56 g.
Donations since then:
Alatar 500g, Gerontius 400 g,
Orome 500 g, Yrma 10.000 g.
New saldo (July 13): 82 g.
At this place a note should be made that Melkor is
of course not expected to donate to the Guildfund, because advancing
the craft skills of weaponsmith Austi (for which he does not request
support from the Guild Fund) is as expensive as it can get.
Also be noted the fact that in Valar only the rich
are expected to donate to the Guildfund.
Between many things to arrange in and around the
house, the ranking system and crafting services, some of us found an
opportunity to hunt after the meeting.
Alatarwalker first led a hunt of young ones around
Later Gerontius, Alatarsong and Yrma went to hunt in
the Vale of Balor,
while Fedelone and Gelmirv went to Thidranki
Edanyael dropped by during the hunt to say greetings
in between RL obligation
Orc page: "Orcs" by
July 10, 2003
D2X 1.10 beta patch now also available for
Mac users in the US as a download from Blizzard. Battlenet also has
July 8, 2003
Boffin, Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Folco has been playing in Dark Age of Camelot with our branch as Jarn.
passed the full member entry test with Irmo and made a character called
with DaoC guild-rank of 5. He's 17, from the USA in PSDT. He's read the
LotR. His favorite characters in
LotR are Merry and Pippin..
July 7, 2003
Huan, welcome back from Nevada! Also,
thanks for the new WC3 bot, Vala! Huan picked up the Frozen
Throne yesterday, Fionwe please note! ;)
July 6, 2003
Sunday Meetings Battlenet
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East
5pm ESDT. Started in channel Valar, moved to channel Clan Vala for ops
Members (16): Bombur, Boromir, Bregalad/Quickbeam
Elrond, Eonwe/Fionwe (chieftain), Eowyn, Fangorn, Frodo, Gwaihir,
Legolas/Greenleaf, Lenwe, Thror, Turgon, Turin, Varda (presiding)
Visitors (2): canarde.jaune@Azeroth (Ducky,
long-time guild-friend who needs to read LotR), Dr.Love@Azeroth (read
Member News (152 listed on Elatan's Member page):
A hearty Welcome Back to Beregond! His letter
is below, from June 29:
I am finished with my army life at last!
Frodo is back, trying to get a new email. He
has a job now.
now, just give me a month or so to restore something I can call an
internet connection, and you should be seeing me some more again ^_^
Apart from that, nothing much to report.
I hope I'll find you and the rest of the guild in good health upon my
Beregond, proud member of the Valar guild!
Legolas Greenleaf expects to be on about
twice a week now.
Dreamlord's paper: Stages of
Theme and Vision in JRR Tolkien's Middle-earth
Beta patch can be played, set up
with an extra shortcut as you might for the Tolkien mod.
We can still have a channel with
by typing /join op accountname If the bot is around (wasn't at
meeting), we can have channel Op ValarGuild. Another option is Op
or Op Varda-Valar.
We still have our regular playing
of Valar, and can use /squelch instead of being concerned about banning
WC3 and Frozen Throne:
The Valar Guild branch was set up
WC3 and Frozen Throne the day Frozen Throne came out: July 1.
Clan tag: Vala
(sets up guild branch, can invite as Peon, promote to Grunt or Shaman,
and ban from channel)
Gwaihir, Draugluin, Varda (can invite as Peon, promote to Grunt, kick
ban from channel) Shamans need two weeks in the Vala guild and should
good at responding to emails and showing up for meetings.
Eonwe/Fionwe; Shamans-to-be but Peons now Draugluin, Gwaihir; Peons
Ecthelion, Finglas/Leaflock, Maedhros, Thror, Turgon. Everybody after
this group is not a Founder, but very welcome.
at tonight's meeting. All but the "Chieftain" start as "Peons".
Members not in
could be invited into the Clan Vala channel by Chieftain Fionwe, in an
with D2X, but could not be tagged to make it a closed channel. The
and Shamans, however, can ban, which helps.
Varda's topic: Who is Fionwe in the books?
Early version of Eonwe before the
Maia version. Son of Manwe and Varda, a Vala himself.
Elrond's first topic: Were any of the nobles of
Gondolin from the Lake of Cuivienen?
No. Even Feanor was born in
Turgon, the High King, was the second son of Fingolfin. Ecthelion was
a captain and warden, so he would not have been one of the First. Very
even of the Noldorin Exiles were from Cuivienen.
Elrond's second topic: Were the orcs an actual
species? Did they become one?
They started as tortured and
elves. JRRT contemplated changing this but never got around to it, so
still so. It's possible part of the mutilation by a Vala like Morgoth
have affected DNA and caused a continuing mutation so that they bred
July 4, 2003
Happy July 4th, Independence Day to our US members!
July 3, 2003
D2X 1.10 beta patch available for US PC
users as a download from Blizzard.
of the Imagination: Theme and Vision in J.R.R.T's Middle-earth"
by Rico Abrahamsen aka Dreamlord, our old Irmo. Brilliant university
July 1, 2003
WC3: Frozen Throne:
Frozen Throne is now in stores!
We have a functioning
guild branch there now. :) How's that for speed? Contact Eonwe if you're not already in
The WC3 guild channel turned out
to be channel Clan Vala
based on the guild tag rather than Clan Valar Guild based on the
name. Also, all channels starting with the world Clan have been turned
to WC3. For a channel with ops, non-WC3 people would need to type /join
Hail all! :}
Today, July 1st, 2003, the Valar Guild's Warcraft 3 branch has been
officially set up through Blizzard's clan support system! :} In a
Tulkasian effort, 10 of us managed to gather in Channel Valar to begin
this branch of the Valar Guild. The founders number 11, as one was lost
for a time while we sought to gather our required 10. All listed
showed great patience, waiting for an incredible 2 hours to piece this
together. They are: Fionwë(myself), Aragorn, Draugluin,
Gwaihir, Thror, Maedhros, Ecthelion, Bombur, Leaflock, Turgon, and
My Shamen are Gwaihir and Draugluin. If any WC3 players would
like to have their Guild account added to the branch through bnet, all
you need do is e-mail the Cheiftain(me) or one of the Shamen(as soon as
Blizzard lets me promote them), or run into us on bnet :} News
later on any tasks they have brought upon themselves aside from what
I've given them :}
Our Guild name on WC3 is "Valar Guild" and our tag is "Vala," since the
number of characters was 4. In an unexpected turn of events,
gave us a channel named for our Guild tag rather than our Guild
Since "Clan" channels are no longer accessible save by those clans, it
cause problems with our meetings. I would encourage members at
this time to check both Channel Valar and Channel Clan Vala before
assuming we have no meeting. (Also try a /whois on Varda-(Valar) and
others while we
work this out.)
Information concerning the Grunt and Peon ranks will come at a later
time to WC3 members, but suffice it to say: Blizzard will have a
Clan ladder ranking. If you wish to participate in this and have
your non-custom games counted toward our rating, you will get to be a
Grunt. If you prefer not to have any of your bnet games counted
either for or against our rating on this ladder, the rank of Peon is
for you. This will not affect or represent your actual standing
in the Valar Guild itself. New invitees are required by bnet to
stay a peon for at least one week.
The 1.10 D2X patch is now
undergoing Quality Assurance testing.
According to the Battle.net site,
Status Forum, in a post by the Battlenet Team June 30:
With the introduction of Warcraft
The Frozen Throne, Battle.net chat channels with the prefix "Clan" are
for Warcraft III clans.
Users of the "classic" clan channels
(supported by Diablo II and Starcraft)
can get the old functionality of clan channels by using "/join op
name>" instead of "/join clan <account name>".
June 30, 2003
WarCraft3 patch 1.10 is out.
June 29, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet 5pm ESDT report
Caranthir, Maedhros, Beleg, Gwaihir,
Coming in late: Haldir
Eol was spotted by me(Eonwë) earlier this week.
Maedhros was also spotted and made it to the meeting
Tilion e-mailed, says hi. Graduated
high-school, heading to Ottawa's Honours History program next.
Caranthir will be on vacation for 3 weeks starting
Varda had to miss the meeting, had some stuff she
needed to do.
(Out of town all weekend.)
Shire Shop- LotR movies,
collectibles, figurines, LotR board games. by Blake Morphis
Menu: dark blue links hard to
read, changed to green. Suggestions welcome
Eonwë sent in more names,
from book 5 (first half of RotK).
Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne
The game is out on Tuesday.
We're setting up the Valar Guild branch through Warcraft 3's clan
support. We need 10 people total, missing 3-4.
Elrond- in your opinion, are the Valar more like
angels or demigods?
They exibit qualities of both. They serve a
higher being and thus are angels, but exhibit powers that are usually
associated with gods/dieties.
June 27, 2003
The Shire Shop - LotR
movies, collectibles, figurines, LotR board games. Site by Blake
Morphis Listed under Tolkien/Movies; Tolkien/ Tolkien
Games; Gaming/ Tolkien Games
June 26, 2003
to a non-guild email from "James", I have to agree that the dark blue
on the Encyc menu is hard to read, and am now trying green. Suggestions
Eonwe's latest names
been added to the Encyc where not already present, and are available
the Names page. He added short descriptions with most. They are mostly
(some animals and hobbits) from Return of the King Book 5 of
the LotR. Deeper articles would be welcome from the membership.
Here's the list:
Ingold- Man, guard at the Pelennor Wall (Rammas Echor "Encircling
Fence" or thereabouts) of Minas
Denethor- Man, son of Ecthelion, Steward of Gondor
Vorondil- Man, Farther of Mardil
Paladin- Hobbit, father of Pippin
Beregond- Man, soldier of the Third Company of the Guard of the Tower
Baranor- Man, father of Beregond
Targon- Man; in charge of storehouse of Beregond's company
Nazgul- aka Black Riders, Fell Riders
Iorlas- uncle of Bergil(Bergil son of Beregond)
The following came to the aid of Minas Tirith, arriving before the
Forlong- Man, aka Forlong the Fat; Lord of Lossarnach; slain on the
Dervorin- Man, son of the lord of Ringlo Vale
Duinhir- Man, Lord of Blackroot Vale in the Uplands of Morthond
Duilin and Derufin- Men, sons of Duinhir
Golasgil- Man, Lord of the Anfalas
Hirluin- Man, aka Hirluin the Fair; Lord of Pinnath Gelin; slain at the
battle of the Pelennor Fields(Seige of Gondor)
Imrahil- Prince of Dol Amroth; Legends say Elven blood runs through his
Halbarad- Man, Dunadan, Ranger of the North
Roheryn- Aragorn's horse, brought by the Dunedain to him from the North
Stybba- Merry's pony riding from Helm's Deep with Theoden
Malbeth- Man, Dunadan presumably, aka Malbeth the Seer; Made prophecies
concering the Return of
Arvedui- Last king at Fornost
Dunhere- Man of Rohan; Cheiftain of the folk of Harrowdale; bore
messages from Gandalf to Theoden
Baldor- Man of Rohan, son of Brego; last man to attempt the Paths of
the Dead; Made a vow to do so
at the feast commemorating the completion of
Brego- Man, King of Rohan; built Meduseld
Hirgon- Man, Dunadan; errand-rider of Denethor; Brought the Red Arrow
to Theoden; was found by
the Rohirrim slain the night before they reached
Windfola- horse of Eowyn as Dernhelm
Witch-king- aka Black Captain, Captain of Despair
Elfhelm- Man of Rohan, Marshal of the Eored Dernhelm rode with
Widfara- Man of Rohan with a keen sense of smell; the wind
"brought him messages"; he confirmed
Ghan-buri-Ghan's statement that the wind was already
Grimbold- Man of Rohan
Guthlaf- banner-bearer to King Theoden
Deorwine- Man of ROhan; Chief of King Theoden's knights(Captain of his
guard); Slain by the Witch-King
Hurin- aka Hurin the Tall; Warden of the Keys
Gothmog- Lieutenant of Morgul
Harding,Herefara, Herubrand,Horn, Fastred- Men, all slain on the
Pelennor Feild; named in the song
lamenting them, Chapter 6 of Book 5 at the very end
Ioreth- eldest of the women at the Houses of Healing
Angbor- Man, Lord of Lamedon; Gathered to Aragorn after Aragorn had
passed through the Paths of
the Dead; Only one who had the heart to abide
Aragorn and his group
Mouth of Sauron- Black Numenorean; Lieutenant of Barad-Dur; forgot his
own name in the deeps of time; came to the Dark Tower when it first
June 25, 2003
Tilion, a few weeks ago,
School (they have 5 years of High School in Ottawa). He's headed to the
of Ottawa's Honours History program next.
June 24, 2003
Tilion says hi! He emailed help with the
Encyclopedia on references and plans to go to Scotland in about 2
With luck he'll make the next meeting on Bnet, so come and catch up on
times. Of the Histories of Middle-earth, he recommends two as
the best of the lot: Vol 10 "Morgoth's Ring", and Vol 12 "The Peoples
Eonwe sent in a batch of names from the Return
of the King for the Names page and Encyclopedia.
June 22, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battle.net
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battle.net
5pm ESDT, East realm, channel Clan ValarGuild
Members: Arathorn, Beleg, Bombur,
Eonwe/Fionwe, Gwaihir, Haldir (late), Orodreth, Turin, Turgon, Varda
Visitors: CorsairofUmbar (wants to join,
friend of Haldir and Beleg rl) had to leave early
Discussion Board chat room: Eonwe
Membership: 152 full members listed on the Member page by
Boromir dropped by the channel after
the meeting in WC3, says hi!
Draugluin emailed and hopes to be back with
us sometime. See News June 18.
Ecthelion came by after the meeting. He has
outsider character named Melodius@Azeroth. He thought he'd been dropped
now from the guild since he'd been away. After school he's been
four hours at percussion, his favorite being the marimba which looks
like a giant xylophone. When he found out he hadn't been dropped, just
a question mark after Active on status, he made his Ecthelion-V@Azeroth
He plays random. Ecthelion corrected the email I had for him. It's
Suilenroc01@hotmail.com. That's Cornelius backwards with a zero
Elrond came in after the meeting in WC3 and
He's been working with the White Council guild and added a forum to the
he built for them.
Gwaihir has a new comp on order, complete
desk and chair. It's supposed to come in middle or end of this week!
reminds us that his icq address on AIM is Elrohir16
Orodreth said he would have trouble typing
meeting after a wild one on one game of basketball with his Dad and
he was eating at the comp (common practice in the guild). But he
to type plenty anyway. Go, Orodreth!
Turin has a new icq address on AOL:
Need more Encyc articles,
poems, art. Orodreth hopes to make an article about Orodreth, Beleg
to make an article about loyalty. Beleg reminded that we need
dates in the Encyc where applicable.
Blizzard Support (Chad Jones)
suggested two good sites for removing Trojans:
Gaming patch news in a
transcript from the Blizzard site:
from Fan Site chat
Arathorn-V said he's been trying
out "Sven Coop" and enjoyed it. This mod allows for cooperative
Turin's topic: Did Frodo actually
complete his quest.
Turin said that Frodo did not
the quest, according to what he had heard from the Letters.
Others said JRRT kept changing
Others said Frodo did not
the quest directly, but did so indirectly due to the oath he'd made
swear on the Precious.
Dark Age of Camelot Meeting
Report: by Irmo-(Valar) aka Yrmo
June 22, 2003 Sunday 3:30 pm ESDT, Percival/Hibernia
Alatar/Alatarch, Gerontius Took, Irmo/Yrma (pres.),
Lungorthin/Raukov, Melkor/Morgothv, Turgon/Gondolinv.
Welcome to our new members:
Lashus, Jauncy, Pavender and Odernia!
Amnon is on holiday in the USA for two weeks and not near a
Irmo is working on a new ranking system which will soon be
mailed to all members.
Raukov is now the Valar character with the most RvR points.
Fantura (tailor) has followed Yrma to the status of legendary
crafter, Ontius (imbues) and Austi (weapons) are now
Donation of 400 g by Turgon!
As Orome and Ettoip joined in, we went to Innis with
idea of hunting banshees. Alas, it took of time a bit to gather, and by
time we were set some had to leave again. So no banshees, but the far
and dreamhances were fun enough though.
June 18, 2003
Letter from Draugluin:
I am merely writing to apologize for my
excessively long absence from the guild. Real life has been getting in
the way constantly, as I have a summer job and am helping my parents
refurbish their house so they can move. Just a funny circumstance of
life- I had more time for the guild when I was in school than I do now.
give the guild my best, and hopefully, I'll return to the guild soon.
June 16, 2003
Blizzard Support recommended these programs, June 2003, to
Trojan viruses that hackers use as backdoors to your computer, found at
June 15, 2003
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!!
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet,
Dark Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting 5pm ESDT,
East, channel Clan ValarGuild
Attending: report by Thror
Arathorn, Beleg, Bombur, Elrond, Eonwe/Fionwe, Erestor, Gwaihir,
Orodreth, Thror, Varda (presiding)
Over the Shoulder hellos (3): Eowyn,
Visitors (2): Centuriate (friend of
Orodreth's, potential member), AoC-TyRaNiD@Azeroth (friend of
Discussion Board chat room: Eonwe
Quickbeam-V account has been stolen
who also came to the meeting as *1Lov3_v4rD4 so don't blame Quickbeam
that ugly language. If you squelch *leafieslover, the so-called
is also squelched.
Boromir visited his grandparents for the day
but emailed a hello to those at the meeting.
Gaffer, Alatar's son, is now playing in Dark
Age of Camelot as Gaffersong.
Gwaihir is hoping for a new computer soon.
Haldir will start school tomorrow, taking
and band. Go for it, Haldir! This is also true for Beleg and a friend
would like to join.
Thingol is back to gaming. He earned his
Associate of Arts degree and has more time now.
Thror will have less time. He started his
new job at a video store. Congrats :)
Turgon had to miss the meeting but emailed.
life got him. Also, he's having web and email problems since Swirve is
longer free. He is temporarily using firstname.lastname@example.org
Nothing new reported.
and Ulmo are at level 65!
Taglos is in Crusaders of Plilo,
Ulmo is in Alliance of Hope, Oropherv is in Beneficium Decem,
is in Sacred Knights of Hearts. Sacred Knights is good for starting
if you have any, and the others are good for high levels if you have
Well of Souls: report by Orodreth
Orodreth-V is working on
world for the guild to play in, barely started at this point and he
use input from those interested. Well of Souls is a free rpg, created
Dan Samuel. It is 2.5D, meaning 2D with shadows. It allows 15-20 people
one server together, as if it were one game. A character can move
servers using the same world, but not between those using different
A character maxes at 88. It has a guild system including uniforms. WoS
no central chat area, so emails and Battlenet and maybe the DB are
used to help co-ordinate. WoS has a small page listing members and some
about guilds. The zip file is about 10MB, with each added world about
more. Data is stored on your computer. Many hack detects. No
issues between servers.
WarCraft: Frozen Throne: report by Eonwe
Out in a few weeks. "Clan" name will be Valar Guild.
will probably be Vala, as it prevents confusion with other V guilds,
only 4 letters are allowed.
Thror-(V) says the the Two Towers
movie video is due out in August!
Centuriate says the band, "Blind Guardian",
uses LotR references and has 3 CD's out.
Thror-(V)'s topic: What other wizards did great
deeds besides the constantly spoken of Gandalf and Saruman?
The brown wizard, Radagast, took care of
animals and plants, meant well.
The blue wizards, Alatar and
made cults in the East. After the fall of Sauron, it is to be hoped
used the cults to improve mankind, but it is not very likely.
Thror-(V)'s topic: Who got rid of the
Necromancer from the Hobbit?
Elrond-(V): The White Council
Gwaihir-(Valar): Frodo eventually.
The Necromancer was Sauron in
form. He moved from Mirkwood to Mordor once his Ringwraiths finished
it up, making it appear as if he had been forced out.
Orodreth-(V)'s topic: The world we live in is in
Speculation that an age is about
years. If is is 2 ages since Elessar's time, he reigned about 4000 BC.
Elrond-(V) guessed that we are
only 7/8 through the age starting with Elessar.
Others said we are still in the
Age of Man.
Erestor-(V)'s topic: If Turin had not been
cursed, he would have been a different kind of hero.
(I missed who came up with this topic, Beleg or
Thror, perhaps) Bay of Balar refers to what?
It refers to the Isle of Balar, which is the
name for Tol Eressea, the island used as a boat to haul elves to
but which was stopped part-way in the bay and placed on a pillar under
water, grounding it.
Turin-(V)'s original elvish:
June 14, 2003
Lome tulin ar en nar laiqueni na
nan ava anta ama ilya estel an aure
Nan ana nte man nar voronda i cala
selma calta i yonta
Turgon emailed that Swirve is no longer a
service, meaning his email etc will be shifting to a new home. His
email will be: email@example.com
June 11, 2003
Thingol is back gaming. He attained
his Associates of Arts!
Thror starts a new job tomorrow, the same
day as getting his driver's permit. Now that's brinksmanship
June 10, 2003
Boromir says hi to everybody! He'll be
the meeting this upcoming Sunday for the pleasant reason that he'll be
the day with his grandparents.
June 9, 2003
Battlenet's comments on
the upcoming D2X patch and on how about removing hackers. Click here.
June 8, 2003
Sunday Meetings Battlenet,
Dark Age of Camelot:
Sunday Meeting Battlenet, 5pm
ESDT, East, channel Clan ValarGuild
Attending: 15 + 2
Members: Aragorn, Arathorn, Bombur,
Eonwe/Fionwe, Feanor, Finglas/Leaflock, Finwe, Gwaihir, Haldir, Huan,
Orodreth, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Visitor: mwhiteFG (friend of Turgon's),
Discussion Board: Eonwe
Special kudos to Huan for excellent
botwork, keeping undesirables out of our meeting! Way to go!
Hello from Aule, as Taglos in EverQuest, who
chatting there with Varda just before the meeting. His StarCraft CD is
and he no longer has D2 loaded, so he is having some difficulty
us on Battlenet. He hears fairly often from Oropher and Ulmo on
Accounts: If your account is stolen,
change the passwords to your other accounts. Notify Varda so that the
actions won't be thought of as yours. Notify Blizzard's support so they
get your account(s) back; Varda can help you with this if you are
what to do. Don't let it go!
Bombur's pages: One
is Mendeleev's Miracle
and the other is the Uranium
Atom. Be sure to click on that uranium atom!
Turgon offered to help guild folk with HTML
1.06 patch came out June 2. More
on Blizzard page.
D2X Tolkien mod: Arathorn
Arathorn and Lenwe have been
fighting the forces of Mordor.
Dungeons & Dragons: Turgon
Friday games still going, action
to get hairy at last. Some availability issues, some new players.
Dark Age of Camelot: Turgon
Mythic, which produces DaoC, has
a new patch.
Our Percival server was
"underpopulated", so massive numbers of new characters popped into
They tend to be rude, crude, and uncouth, but our group is now sifting
some of them for the gold nuggets, much as we do on Bnet.
Varda's topic: What was the purpose of
Gwaihir: Manwe needed no spies
Eonwe: Manwe's representatives in Middle-earth, much
like Yavanna's Ents and Aule's Dwarves.
Turgon: Eagles lived with Manwe on Taniquetil, sent
them to Middle-earth after the Noldorin Exile.
Eonwe: Eagles lived in mountains guarding
Angband/Utumno before moving to the Ecchoriath.
Turgon quoted from the Sil, "Of the Return of the
from the section after Fingon found Maedhros hanging high on the
of the wall of Thangorodrim. His prayer was answered swiftly by
to whom all birds are dear, with an eagle who took Fingon up to the
Discussion shifted to where the dwarf kingdoms
Discussion shifted several times and,
I didn't manage to jot all of them down, but another one was an attempt
discuss elven magic. The attempt as usual was blocked by
about what "magic" means, but went forward better after switching to
word "power". All sorts of power use came under discussion,
including fire, the combination effect of Manwe and Varda on sight and
hearing, song, and items.
June 6, 2003
Bombur put up some pages you might enjoy. One
is Mendeleev's Miracle
and the other is the Uranium
June 5, 2003
else is having a problem with an account being stolen, please email Varda.
Ancalagon reports that there is
guild using the -V after their names, so don't be confused. The guild
June 2, 2003
Patch 1.06 is up! More on Blizzard's page.
June 1, 2003
Sunday on Bnet
Sunday Meeting: Battle.net,
East, 5:00 pm ESDT, channel Clan ValarGuild
Members: Beleg, Bombur, Caranthir,
Erestor, Feanor, Finglas/Leaflock, Finwe, Gwaihir, Haldir, Huan, Thror,
Visitor: Hal (joined after meeting as
Discussion Board: Eonwe
Welcome to the Valar Guild! Meeting us as
*Hal on BroodWar, he found the Valar Guild from a link on the
Encyclopedia of Arda. He
has a group of friends he organized loosely into a clan called Lord of
on West, but came to check us out and joined. He is now online 7 days a
about 16 hours a day. He's 13, from Minnesota in the USA, CST. He
plays BroodWar, sometimes Well of Souls,
which is a free MMORPG 2.5D, very
open. He has AIM: Halhundo and MSN: Halhundo@aol.com and
firstname.lastname@example.org and ICQ and IRC which he did not give names for, not
as much. He's read the H, LotR, Sil, and part of UT. He prefers the Sil
the LotR. Eonwe and Varda tested, perfect score. Orodreth's favorite
character in Lotr,
which he says could be different next time he's asked, is Faramir. He
Faramir is the kind of person he's always liked. He's not in the
but he can pull off some great things in need. He's the silent guy who
make fun of, then get whupped by.
Eol can now come online one night a
week at his parents' house. Watch for him!
Gwaihir works every other Sunday at meeting
Thror will be out of school June 12.
- fan site starting up.
the Rings - Download of the Fellowship's original movie promo.
Page by Arathorn-(V)
Haldir's paper on the Return
of the King, now under Special Papers. He wrote this for school and
made an A.
WarCraft 3: The Frozen Throne, should be
on sale in stores July 1! This will be for multiple languages.
Pre-sales hit gold.
We intend to start a guild
there and need to grab our name as quickly as possible. If you think
might be playing this game, email Eonwe so he can call you to the
meeting to create the guild. We will need at least 10 members. More
Patch due out
between June 9 and 12. Report from Gwaihir.
We have a hacker with a
of garbage mouth. He has hacked at least the accounts of Bombur-V,
and Quickbeam-V. He is a real-life acquaintance of poor Finglas. If you
a member using disgusting language, please don't be upset with him as
is probably this creepazoid. Please report any such stolen accounts to
and/or Huan. We are taking steps. You personally can type /squelch
which will stop his messaging you for that time on Bnet. In channel
ValarGuild, he generally can't enter if the bot is present. If he finds
way in, any member can ban him. I reported his continuing harassment
theft to the Powers That Be of Blizzard.
Haldir's Topic: Did Merry or Eowyn really
kill the Witch-King?
Varda quoted from Return of
"Battle of Pelennor Fields". Shows Eowyn kills the beast the Witch-King
Merry distracted and brought the Witch-King's head in range for Eowyn
remove. Thus they were both needed, but Eowyn actually did the deed.
Finwe quoted Glorfindel's
prophecy from Return of the King, Appendix A, subsection iv,
"Gondor and the House of Anarion".
Then we moved to quotes that make us feel good:
Haldir quoted from the Hobbit's
opening: In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.
Turgon quoted from Fellowship,
Bilbo's gift to Lobelia of spoons, she took the point and the spoons.
Serious Valar moment quote from Turgon:
Unfinished Tales, "Of Tuor
and His Coming to Gondolin". Tuor is revealed as the messenger of Ulmo.
Sunday Meeting on
Dark Age of Camelot, report by Irmo-(Valar), the italicized are
notes added by Varda:
Valar-DaoC Report Meeting June 1, 2003
Percival server, Mag Mell, 3:30 PM EDST
Ettoip (Gorgenhad Oldbuck), Gerontius Took,
Gondolin (Turgon), Raukov (Lungorhin), Yrma (Irmo)
Discussing Guild hunts:
The age difference between main characters is rather
which prevents well-formed groups. Should we all make starting
specifically meant to hunt together at the Guild Hunts? Obvious
but these would disappear when members do not frequently attend the
Hunts (the age difference would soon grow again). Besides it will take
long time before such a group could gain funds for the Guild. Best
be if members would attend frequently: then we could form two or
groups of different age.
Long time since we had new members. The entree test
sometimes considered a reason not to apply for Valar. It is indeed a
unheard of in DaoC (either invite a player or not, but test?).
Conclusion: The entree test does not have to be
right away. People can enter at Guild Rank 9, to see if they feel good
us (and we with them). If all goes right, people will want full
(test), if not they will want to leave anyway.
At higher season all nice people are already in one
or another. Could be an argument to do Guild Hunts with young
(meet yet unguilded nice people).
(June 7), 3:30 PM EDST, will be held a Tolkien
in Mag Mell (postponed from May 17). Gerontius is organizing this. The
will be notified by mail as well.
Previous (May 25): 741 g
Stipendia spellcrafting 666 g
(Ontius) and weaponcraft 440 g (Austi).
50 g Gondolin
150 g Rauko
900 g Yrma.
New (June 2): 747 g
We tried for Darkness falls, but it closed as we
Went to Treibh Caillte instead, with Gondolin,
Ontius, Fedelone and Maigan. (two enchanter + two bards)
May 29, 2003
Language section added.
Quenya and Sindarin role-playing phrases. Needs your help. Would prefer
and phrases to show research that says where the info is in the books,
instance, Silmarillion's Appendix.
the Rings - Download of the Fellowship's original movie promo.
Page by Arathorn-(V)
Listed in Links page under Tolkien/ Movies
May 28, 2003
Haldir wrote "Impression
of Lord of the Rings: Return of the King". He made an A on this for
school and it is now included under Special Papers.
Repaired Danish paper "Kampen
mellem Godhed og Ondskab i Lord of the Rings" links, so you should
be able to access it now. English translation underway, which he says
is very difficult.
May 27, 2003
Eol now has limited computer access one day a
week at his parent's house and hopes to be gaming with us again.
Welcome back. :)
May 26, 2003
- fan site starting up. Articles on Tolkien, elvish, the books, the
Site hosted by Rem Tolkienna, made by dunadan JHS, aided by Orodreth
Grigory Deepdelver, Shorty, and Mayur. Listed under
Tolkien/ Groups, Fan Sites
May 25, 2003
Sunday meetings: Battle.net,
Sunday Meeting Battle.net 5pm
ESDT, East, channel Clan ValarGuild
Members: Arathorn, Beleg, Haldir, Gwaihir,
Late - "aftermeeting" held about 2 hours after
meeting. Eonwe/Fionwe, Haldir, Turgon, Varda, with Beleg dropping by
he had to leave. Gaming afterwards in D2X included Eonwe/Kalmo,
Haldir, Turgon, Varda, with a howdy from Turin who was playing BroodWar.
Membership News: 147 members
Eonwe had a birthday last Saturday
and is now 21. He had family business during the regular meeting time,
coming late to the meeting.
Fangorn had a birthday today, 50th, and the
family including Varda went out to celebrate, coming late to the
Gildor Inglorion, Elros' brother, is back in
Finarfin is back for D2X, has been buried
under schoolwork and other rl.
Fingon has internet again and hopes to be
Khamul's computer is working again. He's
playing Shadowbane now, rather than WC3.
Mablung has been grounded a long time,
contacted us by the Discussion Board, and expects to be returning to us
Gorgenhad Oldbuck/Ettoip and Merleau
the DaoC players passed their Tolkien tests for full membership in the
on May 6, Merleu has yet to choose a guild name.
Handy Elvish Words and Phrases has
from Irmo and Tuvo, although unintentionally. Now all we have to do is
it online and see who will be handling the webwork. Varda has a start
it but Tuvo may be handling it, lightening the load.
D2X, BW, WC3, DaoC, and EQ seem to be the
popular games at the moment with the group, or at least the ones that
Khamul mentioned Shadowbane as his current favorite.
Azaghal was playing Planetarion and Baldur's Gate 2
Bain plays NeverWinter Nights, as well as D2X and WC3
Remember to use our Bnet playing channel and
to help you contact others who would like to change suits and meet you
a game. Also tell us about the new games you enjoy during the Games
of the meeting (whisper the chair to take your turn speaking; nobody
to hear just the chair!).
Valar/DaoC Sunday May 25, 2003 Mag Mell, 3:30 PM EDST Report by
Alatarwarden, Amnon, Ettoip, Gerontiustook, Yrma
Irmo (Yrma) has assembled a list of Quenya
expressions. All members have received the list by mail, also published
Amnon (Tuvo) has written a story by which we have
our Guild to the Anam na Eireann Alliance. It has met with courteous
Old (may 18 ) : 261 g
Donation Gerontius Took: 100 gp
Donation Amnon 200 gp
Donation Turgon 80 gp
Donation Ettoip 100 gp
New: 741 gp!
Cheers to the gracious donators!
After these announcements and their discussion
present joined in a hunt in Darkness Falls. We met with a member of
na Eireann, with which we had a jolly good time.
May 24, 2003
Tolkien Discussion on Dark Age of Camelot, 3:30pm
ESDT. Held in mag mall, same as normal meetings. This is the second
meeting, to determine if enough people will show to make this a
DaoC guild feature.
May 23, 2003
Varda's back (that's me). That means
Eowyn, Sauron, ex-Fingon aka Gotta_Scratch, and Meriadoc are also back,
to come out from under computer withdrawal. Updates from the mass of
are listed below according to their dates.
To prevent writing this same letter over 200 times
have folks who aren't listed on the full Members page), here it is now:
My mother died and needed to be buried on the other
end of Texas in Alpine with her parents and brother.
Meriadoc took Eowyn and Varda in his plane and we
adventures flying around a cloud over Ozona, which was loaded with
watching jets detour it above us at about 60,000 feet leaving big L's
the sky. We had haze all across Texas due to smoke blowing in from
where they were doing their yearly burn-off before planting. Below us
Ozona, golfball-sized hail and rocks from a cliff hit Eowyn's car, in
Fangorn, Sauron, and ex-Fingon were traveling, causing less damage than
from trucks. Past Ft. Stockton where there is little traffic, the
in Eowyn's car self-destructed so that ex-Fingon (whose turn it was to
had no brakes but pulled neatly onto the shoulder and stopped. The car
to be towed to Odessa and required a week to repair since the only shop
the warranty (only on the transmission, not motel, towing, or rental
was short three people, all on medical leave. We
had a nifty time flying over the end of the Rocky Mountains to land at
airport in Alpine, then rented a car and picked up the family stranded
the road between Ft. Stockton and Alpine. Meriadoc
never gets away from doing search and rescue missions!
This time also being Fangorn's two-week vacation, we
a rental car and visited with Fangorn's parents in Plains. Meriadoc,
and ex-Fingon flew to Plains airport, the airport's first visitor in a
time, as they are used to crop dusters and cloud-seeders, so a bunch of
came running out to watch him land. We also visited Fangorn's uncle and
in Lubbock and, in the same town, enjoyed seeing X-Men 2 along with our
and visiting with his wife.
On the way home in Eowyn's repaired car, we took a
side-trip to walk through the Caverns
for the two-mile tour. It's a warm cave at 70 degrees Fahrenheit, with
including the only known "butterfly", a double helictite pictured on
site. It has pools so pure, testing at 99.0%, that what appears to be
3 feet deep is actually 6 and 8 feet deep, reflecting back with a
much as the sky does although completely clear.
May 21, 2003
Finarfin emailed. He's been working very
schoolwork and other real life, but is able to draw breath again and is
with us, hearing the call of D2X!
May 18, 2003
Khamul emailed. He's got his computer working
again, but instead of playing WC3, he found himself addicted to
Shadowbane! Have fun, Khamul!
Sunday Meeting: Bnet,
Battle.net 5pm ESDT, East, channel
Clan ValarGuild. Report from Eonwe.
Bombur (after meeting), Caranthir (popped
Eonwe (presiding), Feanor (after meeting), Haldir (after meeting),
Gwaihir sent his regards, had to work during
the meeting time.
Tulkas told a memory about the early days of
Valar/DaoC Sunday May 18, 2003 Mag Mell, 3:30 PM EDST Report by
Alatarwarden, Amnon, Ettoip, Gerontiustook,
Gondolin, Merleau, Raukov, Yrma (pres.)
Last week we saw the return of Amnon, this week we
saw the return into our midst of Valinduil/Argon. Hurray!
The meeting minutes will hence forward be printed on
the Valardaoc Homepage by Lungorthin. More power to him!
Gerontius called attention to the Tolkien chat
24, 3:30 PM EDST. (NOTE: Later in the week it turned out that the chat
to be postponed because both Gerontius and Yrma have real life
at that date and time).
Many of us are presently experimenting with using a few elvish
expressions to embellish our (role)play
Amnon and Yrma will introduce the Valar Guild to the
na Eireann Alliance. The members present repeated their commitment to
honor and gallant role-play above power and powerplay..
Amnon has posted a
list of available alchemy services on the EZBoard. Impressive indeed!
sure to take a look there.
Spending: 666gp spellcrafting
and alchemy. Donations: Amnon (100 gp), Merleau (40 gp), Gerontius (100
Yrma (600 gp).
After these announcements and their discussion
present joined in a hunt in the Coruscating Mines. We had a full group
Valar! The Mines were overcrowded, and we did not find any gallantry
Looking for a place to hunt, we were soon prey ourselves and suffered a
deaths. Not much “exp and loot”, but a learnable adventure in more ways
May 15, 2003
Turgon is back in DaoC, his account now
May 14, 2003
Tuvo/Amnon is back to DaoC, and we hope his
health will be good.
Argon/ Valinduil/ Isil is back to DaoC,
having managed to re-open his account.
May 12, 2003
Letter from Fingon:
Welcome back, Fingon! :)
At long last I have returned to the
world of internet and will be able to join once more with my brethren.
May 11, 2003
Battlenet East, 5pm ESDT, channel Clan ValarGuild. Report by Eonwe
Eonwë/Fionwë(presiding), Gwaihir, Arathorn
Coming in during meeting: Turgon, Thror,
Passing through :Fëanor, Caranthir
Varda will be away for
two weeks on family business. If you have something that
must be addressed immediately, feel free to e-mail me
Welcome to Gorgenhad Oldbuck, a friend of Angrod’s of
Melkor’s family (yes, we have almost entire
families in the
guild :}) He joins us from DAoC.
his regards, as he was attending the Mother’s Day Mass at the basilica at Notre Dame
mother. What have you done for your
mother lately? :}
Irmo also sends
his regards via Turgon, who made it to the meeting and is apparently
Finwë was spotted by me in the
main channel when I did a /who command :}
The DAoC page is
up under Lungorthin’s maintainence now.
Check it out :}
Irmo sent in a link for the
Tolkien Online Art Gallery :}
Eonwë (me :}) is looking for
images of the Two Lamps Iluin and
Ormal. I have seen the one of Iluin by Ted
Nasmith, and while it is nice, it is inadequate as it has no matching
:} I need pictures of
matching quality (both
image and artistic). If one can be
found to match Nasmith’s work, that’s
I am also looking for images of all the
Valar. These too must be of good
quality. I have images of Ulmo and Melkor, but
need ones of the
other Valar, as well as the “Lost Valar” such as Eonwë and Salmar if possible. Check out images of Ulmo and Melkor by
artists such as Ted Nasmith and you’ll have an idea of the
looking for. Thanks in advance for the help :}
Blizzard has revealed some of their
intentions with the 1.10
patch. Check them out! They’re pretty cool :}
Thror has been
reading the Silmarillion, and was inspired to ask, “What
happened to all the Balrogs between LotR and
Chances are, most were slain in the War
of Wrath at the end of the First Age.
Two were killed in the Seige of Gondolin
(Gothmog Lord of Balrogs among them) and one is known to have survived
until the Third
Age (the Balrog of Moria).
held on what the name of the Balrog of
Moria may have been. I suggested
perhaps calling him “Moria” after his
realm would suffice
similar to calling the Witch-King “Angmar” after his realm.
“Balrog” also works :}
Haldir asked “What happens to
Elves after death?” They go to the Halls
of Mandos and wait. From
there, they may eventually be
released into Valinor and given a new body.
no report currently available
May 10, 2003
Mablung contacted us by the Discussion Board
and hopes to be around again at meetings, after having been grounded a
time. His email is
May 9, 2003
I'll be out of town for possibly the next two weeks
on family business. Check out Eonwe's Games page
for News meanwhile! Also watch for the new look he's planning to
put up and let him know how you like it! Happy gaming!
Eonwe is needing pictures of both the
Lamps, not just that one. He also needs pictures of all the Valar. If
you find any such, please email him the URL.
May 7, 2003
Irmo emailed us this link to Tolkien
May 6, 2003
Oldbuck, welcome to the Valar Guild!
He's a real life friend and colleague of Angrod's of the Melkor family.
plays DaoC, and has been playing with the group there as Ettoip before
his test with Irmo and choosing a name.
May 5, 2003
The new DaoC page by
Lungorthin is up! Beautiful job by the White Balrog.
May 4, 2003
Sunday Meeting Battlenet, East Realm, channel Clan
ValarGuild, 5pm ESDT
Attending (6): Arathorn, Draugluin, Eonwe, Gwaihir, Haldir,
People who show up to meetings automatically have their names protected
being handed out to new members, as we are sure they are active. Even
a few minutes is enough if we have time to jot down your name.
Arathorn, our newest member, said his "few
Gwaihir has a new job and starts this Wednesday.
Tuvo is back from the hospital.
Valar Guild domain name (www.valarguild.org)
has links to make fewer clicks to find our way to the desired section.
DaoC web pages are currently found on the main Valar
index page, under Gaming/ Dark Age of Camelot. It has links to the EZ
and the Camelot Herald.
Consulting Services, Arathorn's page, is now
on the Guild index under "Other". If yours isn't up, email the URL and
guild name to Varda.
Games Page: Eonwe has updated the links for the
mod page by V&K; Mod users page; Tourney info; Gaming News.
D2:Lord of Destruction:
is looking for a
programmer. Maybe you. They need one to help with the 1.10 patch.
The patch, among other things,
a new unique jewel, which causes a level 47 chain lightning blast all
you if you die.
D2: LoD Tolkien Mod:
Arathorn found that it
works to use batch files to switch between D2X and D2X-T.
World of WarCraft:
WoW now has 5 player races, with
the addition of the Night Elves.
The WoW beta should begin
between August and October. If you get into it, feel free to use your
name so other guild members can recognize you. Also email Varda to be
on the News so we can all go "woot!", and so other beta players know to
We considered phrases for opening and closing
the meeting and may use:
"A star shines on the hour of our
meeting." - Varda-(Valar)
"Freely ye came and freely ye shall
depart." - Eonwe-(Valar)
We considered greetings.
"Pedo" is a Sindarin greeting,
used on the Gate of Moria to Hollin.
"Aiya" is the Quenya greeting,
used by Galadriel.
We mentioned how to say "friend". This tense problem
be why Gandalf had difficulty at first in understanding how to enter
"Mellon" is singular, "Mellyn" is
"Mhellon" is the objective form
singular, "Mhellyn" is the objective form plural.
May 2, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
He found us while trying to locate the place to download the D2X
mod. He started playing D2X a few weeks ago, but has played many other
including D2. He came in as Stryder5, also having Stryder55 and plays
since he's been off work with a back injury. He just turned 40 so happy
and lives in Quebec, Canada. EST. He's read the H and LotR, first
of the Sil. Varda tested and he had a perfect score. He can be cajoled
using ICQ for an emergency, number 971456, but since he was hacked
it once, he's not happy with it. His home page is Computer Consulting Services.
Besides computer work, he did comedy sketches onstage a few years ago.
favorite character is Strider, for his mystery and his great treks in
wild. Also, Aragorn looked dangerous, like an anti-hero, but willing to
for the right reason as in his fight with the ringwraiths, like a hero.
World of WarCraft update, brought to
us by Eonwe-(Valar), copied from the Blizzard page:
World of Warcraft Update: THE NIGHT ELVES ARE IN!
It’s official: Blizzard Entertainment is proud to announce that the
Night Elves are now a playable race in World of Warcraft, our upcoming
massively multiplayer online role-playing game. See them for yourself
in these exclusive screenshots, which include glimpses of their
architecture and lands. For a thorough first look at this colorful
race, check out the current issue of GMR magazine, which goes on sale
in early May.
Also on sale in May, the latest issue of Computer Gaming World will
preview some of the features that we’ll be showing in greater detail at
the Electronic Entertainment Expo (May 14-16), including trade skills,
transportation, and the all-new Warlock character class.
We will be updating our World of Warcraft Web site with information
about the Night Elves and more soon, so check back often. And, for
those curious about when the World of Warcraft beta test will start,
we’ve recently added an item to our F.A.Q. about this.
April 28, 2003
Tuvo, welcome back from the hospital! May you
be back to swinging your sword vs gaming and real life soon.
Dark Age of Camelot
will be having a new main page. Since ex-Lindir, who was handling that,
guild, the old link now goes to his new guild, Darkness Before Dawn. It
is friendly to Valar.
Lungorthin-(Valar) will be the new DaoC branch web
person when he again has access
to a computer. For now, the EZ Board is still
operating, as is the Camelot
They are both on the Valar Guild index page under Gaming/Dark Age of
The list of players so as to understand the Camelot Herald report is on
EZ Board /Introductions /Member
. Meeting reports, written by Irmo/Yrmo, were on the EZ Board's
(March 10) and then moved to EZ Board's "General" (March 31, April 20).
April 27, 2003
Sunday Meeting: Battlenet,
Dark Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting: Battle.net's
East Realm, channel Clan ValarGuild, 5pm EDST
Report from Eonwe:
Members: Gwaihir, Turgon, Draugluin,
Eonwë(presiding), Lenwë, Caranthir, Feanor, Haldir
After Meeting: Bombur, Varda
1 new member this week: Lenwë
Lenwë's few words:
"Found the Guild looking for ME mod players, e-mailed Varda and visited
a bit. Came to the meeting Last week, took the test, and that's
how I got here.
20 years old from California, first fell in love w/ Tolkien's works
when I was a junior in high school."
Web News: none
D2X Tolkien Mod:
Reported by Gwaihir- "Varda,
Lenwë and I played a Quest for 3 in the ME mod. No record,
but hey! Great fun
We discovered a very annoying bug concerning tomes. They were
reduced in size from 2 inv boxes to 1, but still take up 2."
Lenwë added: "Varda and I had problems with the
Fëanor's Cube when joining another game. It
disappeared. When I went to get mine again in the Halls of the
Dead, I found all my stuff was still in my cube."
Eonwë and Draugluin report that we have never
experienced this problem. My tomes work just fine, and so does my
cube. My first suggestion was to make sure the filepath was
correct. It should look similar to this :
"C:/Program Files/Diablo 2/Game.exe" -direct -txt
Remember also that the mod is only playable on Open
and Single Player, never on realms. These things being correct
and noted, my only other suggestion is to try reinstalling the mod
(deleting it from your diablo 2 directory then reinstalling it) or at
the very extreme reinstalling Diablo 2 in its entirety. Hopefully
just reinstalling the mod helps.
Gwaihir tells us a friend of his has written a big
paper on how the movies differ from the books.
Topic: Fëanor noticed that we discussed
the Blue Wizards at last week's meeting. He wished us to repeat
some of what we said, more specifically whether we think Alatar and
Pallando caused some problems in the Fourth Age.
Many thought it was possible. Speculation that
they would've caused Eldarion, Elessar's son, problems during his
reign. Some mention of the armies sent to deal with the Eastern
and Southern foes left from WotR, led by Elladan and Elrohir.
Some discussion on orcs and their dwindling. I
suggested that the Orcs, being originally Elves, would suffer from the
same fading as the Elves (perhaps a good discussion for next week).
Organizational note from Varda:
On who chairs the meeting, the current set-up is
then Eonwe. The other Valar are unable to attend the meeting at that
but would have been next. So our third chair is the Maia Gwaihir who
up regularly, is familiar with the proceedings, and has shown himself
be good at handling the channel. We may be having him do some chair
in the future.
April 21, 2003
Tip from Gwaihir for messaging on Bnet: Your
list is numbered. Instead of typing the whole name, use just the number
way, if your friend is number 8: /w %f8 Aiya!
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Lenwe has visited and emailed with us for the past year as direwolv in
although he has mostly been playing on West. He is 20, from California
the USA, PST. He plays Diablo 1, Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction, and the
LoD Tolkien mod. He has CounterStrike but his computer isn't up to
it. We all know that feeling! He uses MSN messenger as
. He's read the H, LotR, Sil and part of BoLT 2. His favorite character
Legolas, not because of the movie, but because direwolv started playing
MUD seven years ago as an elf ranger and has identified with such
ever since. He came to the meeting yesterday. Today we played the
mod with him.
Quest for Three, Tolkien mod Tourney game.
The team was of Gwaihir, Lenwe, and Varda. Scored 20. This did not beat
record of 22 by Beleg, Glaurung, and Turgon back at the Fifth
but was great fun!
After we got our characters started with the Quest
we continued to play for hours. We learned about the Tome of Town
bug. The book in the mod appears to be shrunk to one space, potions pop
the space just fine. But the books remember each other as the old size
two spaces, so the tomes must have a "space" left between them or the
is frozen. To escape, alt + tab to the task bar and use the task
to close the game. Then return. A disappeared book may return on
Gold also put in a re-appearance on re-entry.
April 20, 2003
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battle.net,
5pm ESDT, East Realm, channel Clan ValarGuild
Attending: (many sent regards, said they had Easter
family things they needed to do)
Members: Alatar, Aragorn, Eonwe,
Gwaihir, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Discussion Board: Eonwe
Collecting info for a page on Handy Elvish
Words and Phrases, not yet uploaded, but started. Email Varda
Elatan's Member page has not been updated
for a while. We suspect comp problems.
D2X Tolkien Mod:
We're locating people who want to
Direwolv, Gwaihir, Varda, and Eonwe are interested. Eonwe has to wait
his new computer. Direwolv suggested another way to switch between
and mod play, but it takes a fair
bit of room on the hard drive. Very fast. Install D2X twice, including
for Bnet patches, then make one the mod. Have two icons on the desktop,
one for mod and one for regular.
Alatar and Turgon dropped by. They said they were in
cave waiting for a rez during the Sunday Valar DaoC raid.
Varda-(Valar) How did Tolkien use the
idea of rebirth in the LotR?
Listing his uses took a good half hour without even
into any of them in depth! Then we digressed into what probably would
happened to the Blue Wizards, Alatar and Pallando, after the end of the
of the Ring.
Sunday Meeting Dark Age of Camelot
3:30pm ESDT, Hibernia on the Percival server.
Report from Irmo-(Valar):
Sunday april 20, 2003
Alatar/Alatarv, Angrod/Aurgus, Ettoip, Gerontius
Irmo/Yrma, Melkor/Morgothv, Merleau, Turgon/Turgonv.
A great attendance on this Easter Sunday!
Alatar and Gerontius
received their emblemed cloak and shining armour for reaching 20th
with their first characters today. Congratulations!
We discussed the possibility of joining a befriended Guild -
Lema en Estela
- in a renown alliance in the future. Irmo and Melkor will do some
and chats to explore.
After the meeting tradeskill services were exchanged. Then we
together in a hunt in the dungeon Treibh Caillte and had a jolly good
April 17, 2003
We may be starting a page on handy elvish
If any of you would like to contribute, please email Varda and include
Letter from Feanor: Sindarin for Thank you
April 16, 2003
Well my searches have been fruitful! Now I have not taken apart the words yet, but I found a website that had quotes from The Two Towers movie. One of them had "Hannon le". That is thankyou in Sindarin. I assume "Hannon" means thank and "le" means you. I hope this comes of use and let me know if you need anymore phrases or etc.
Letter from Feanor: Quenya for Thank you
April 13, 2003
I have taken up a search on "thankyou" in Quenya. Now I am not suer this is right, but this is what I got. Based on information from our own Quenya page and Ardalambion, I have deduced that thankyou that is courteous would be "Hantalyë" or just "Hantal". These are both hypothetcial, but I will explain how I got them. On Beren's High Elven Page, "hanta-" is a root meaning thank. It is from "hantalë" meaning thanksgiving. Now on the Ardalambion site and the Beren's site, the suffix "lyë" means familiar you. Now I guess a thankyou to somone that is familiar would be "hantaccë". The suffix "-ccë" being you formal. As for the Sindarin thankyou, I have not begun searching because Quenya is my favorite . Well I hope this information can be of some use. When I find the Sindarin equivalent to thankyou, I will let you know.
Sunday Meeting Battlenet, East Realm, 5pm EDST,
channel Clan ValarGuild
Members: Beleg, Caranthir, Curufinwe,
Eonwe, Gwaihir, Haldir, Huan, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Early: Lungorthin dropped by briefly to let
us know he exists, although grounded for the present. It's tough being
Visiting: CorsairOfUmbar (would like to
join, friend of Beleg's and Haldir's), alonebymyself (briefly),
fatman84 (fast pop in and away)
Gerontius Took is ill. May he feel
Tuvo/Amnon of DaoC has been back and forth
from the hospital. Our best wishes attend him.
- a not-Encyclopedia and not-Discussion Board allowing readers to click
on a name to add information and comments, whether from the books or
with or without research. It also lets the reader add characters. This
be quite a bit of fun, although not particularly reliable. He has a
to both the Encyclopedia and Annals. Page made and suggested by Morten
Curufinwe reports that he is new
come to the game of WC3. Have fun!
Eonwe reports that the WC3 map
contest ended today.
Eonwe reports the new patch 1.10
out. You'll notice a short, automatic download if you don't have it
D2:LoD aka D2X:
Eonwe reminds us that Tom
is available to help pass along unwanted piles of mathoms (spare
It might also be handy for rpgers, such as EQ and DaoC members. Be sure
list your game and server if on an rpg.
Turgon reports that the AD&D
were unable to meet the last two Fridays, but should be going again
Friday. Email him if you would like to enter before it has gotten far
this game. The group meets on MSN, 8pm EST. His web page is Turgon's Tolkien Site.
See Online AD&D Game. Current players are Gerontius, Gwaihir,
Cirdan, Turgon, and Meatloaf.
Curufinwe-(V): What is "Thank
you" in Quenya elvish? Sindarin would also be good to know.
We would like to set up a page of handy elvish
phrases. Please email them to Varda
with your reference, translation, and the language the phrase is in.
Topic 2: (abbreviated notes)
Varda-(Valar): In "The Hobbit", why did
Gandalf choose Bilbo Baggins instead of a Brandybuck or Took?
Eonwe-(Valar): A Took would not have been so
Turgon-(V): Bilbo's wits and childhood dreams of
Bilbo only was cautious because he had changed, which nearly ruined
Gwaihir-(Valar): Had he picked someone who was more
naturally, might not have worked as well. Bilbo dreamed of adventures
wasn't adventurous...sort of. Someone adventurous would not have had
caution to succeed.
Eonwe-(Valar): Good old Bilbo and his plain hobbit
Varda-(Valar): The Valar seemed to have chosen Bilbo
through Gandalf. Is this why they picked him also?
Haldir-(V): A Took or Brandybuck may have carelessly
died before the quest was finished.
Gwaihir-(Valar): Could have been because of Frodo.
had some insight into the future. and would have known Frodo needed the
of his adventure-tested uncle. Also, they were influenced by Gandalf's
Varda: and mithril coat.
Turgon-(V): Bilbo's torll adventure resulted in
Glamdring and Orcrist. Also, he made a delay in the Battle of Five
Varda-(Valar): Aye, he affected the outcome of that
battle, including the peace.
(At this point, Varda/me had to leave, hospital
April 9, 2003
- a not-Encyclopedia and not-Discussion Board allowing readers to click
a name to add information and comments. It also lets the reader add
He has a link to both the Encyclopedia and Annals. Page made and
by Morten Goodwin Olsen.
April 6, 2003
Daylight Savings Time starts in the US. Our
meeting on Bnet will be 5pm ESDT, which was 4pm EDT, so it's an hour
earlier for those not changed.
I have visitors, as my mother has double pneumonia
and people need a place to stay while seeing her. I will try to make
the meeting, maybe bring in a visitor with luck. No luck, didn't make
it back from the
hospital early enough. Thank you, Eonwe, for chairing the meeting!
Sunday Meeting Battle.net 5pm ESDT Meeting
minutes from Eonwe:
Attendence: Tulkas, Gwaihir, Eonwë
(presiding), Turgon, Haldir
Coming in during meeting: Huan via Valarguild, Elrond, Fëanor
Coming in After meeting: Varda (:})
Guests: alonebymyself, fatman85, Cheese
Gandalf was removed from the Guild for violating our Code of
Conduct. (Some minor discussion of our Code of Conduct and what
it allows followed.)
Varda had to miss the meeting because she was visiting her mother
who is sick.
Haldir reports Beleg had to miss the meeting due to Disneyland :}
Web: The Pages were down for some reason. For
some other reason, I could not access the Yahoo DB.
Note from Varda: Alatar accidentally deleted
folder which contained my folder which held the guild pages. I have
files, Alatar set up the server so I could put them up (during the
when he heard we had a problem), humor page pictures I didn't have were
in by Elros. We are operational again. Email if you spot where I
I also put up a new page to handle many emails: "Joining the
Note from Varda: DaoC:
Lungorthin is now handling the DaoC web pages. Lindir is letting us
keep the EZ Board
Gerontius is now playing Dark Age of Camelot.
Turgon tells us he hopes to be getting DAoC soon.
From Tulkas- Tulkas told us he had seen
on one of those entertainment shows that many movies, including Return
of the King, were being rushed out sooner than originally planned due
to the earlier date for the Oscars, which are set in January of next
year. This sparked his question:
"Do you think the 3rd movie will be affected by an earlier than
planned release date?"
Most seemed to agree it would not affect it much, and discussion
diverged into aspects of the movies and books.
After this was exhausted we ended up in a series of
comments that led to another discussion :}
April 1, 2003
Melkor, welcome back from vacation!
Balin, welcome back to you too! Balin now
new computer and finds WC3 addictive. He's also back on D2X aka D2:LoD
much less lag, also thanks to the new computer.
March 30, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Bnet,
chaired. Varda was painting her house with a time limit problem.
Sunday Meeting: 5pm EST Report of
Bnet Minutes from Eonwe
Gil-Galad, Draugluin, Tulkas, Gwaihir, Eonwë (presiding)
Kampen mellem Godhed og Ondskeb i
Lord of the Rings by Nicki T. Hansen, who is working on the English
Encyclopedia- "Ungoliant" by
Tolkien Music List: all recorded
or composed Tolkien inspired music
Beta Testers for WC3:TFT are Elros, Boromir,
WC3 Map Contest
Tolkien Chat: none
Gandalf has been removed from the Valar Guild
continuous breaking of the Code of Conduct and guild mission statement
in DaoC, even
after repeated warnings. This was agreed upon by the Council after
was presented and with a great deal of discussion.
In DaoC: Lindir and Aredhel, full members,
the guild over the discord with Gandalf. Nireis also left. Lindir and
are setting up a new guild, friendly with the Valar guild.
March 27, 2003
mellem Godhed og Ondskab i Lord of the Rings" by Nicki T.
Hansen, aka GWiZ. He is working on an English translation from the
WC3: Eonwe reports news
from the Blizzard page, contest
Warcraft III Multiplayer Map Contest
Beta testers: Elros
reports that he too is a beta tester for Frozen Throne! Elros, Boromir,
and Gorbag are those we know of, for those asking how to meet
each other on the beta and need names for the friend list. Go guys!!
Attention map designers. The opportunity to have
your multiplayer maps included in the retail version of Warcraft III:
The Frozen Throne has arrived. The final Contest winners will have
their map added to The Frozen Throne CD-ROM, along with a grand prize
package that includes a signed copy of Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne,
inclusion in the game’s online credits and more.
Click here for
further details on the contest -- which will be ending on April 11th --
and click here
to read the official rules. Good Luck!
Boromir uses Boromir(V) in the beta. Aim
, Msn email@example.com , Emailed from:
Elros beta tester in the second wave.
Emailed from: firstname.lastname@example.org
Gorbag Emailed from: email@example.com
March 25, 2003
Boromir, congrats on being accepted into the
beta test for WarCraft 3's Frozen Throne! Have a great time! Here's his
Links page: Tolkien Music List -
the recorded or composed Middle-earth inspired music he could find,
listing bands just for having Tolkien-related names.: by Chris Seeman
Can u give me the accounts that some of the valar use if
they have the
beta.i would like to play with them. I use Boromir(V) and where
can i find
peoples msn and aim. I dont know where to look it up. Or if you
add me my aim is MadHattaMayer msn is firstname.lastname@example.org
thats mine shires my dads. just msn is
under his thing.
March 24, 2003
March 23, 2003
Sunday Meetings Battle.net,
Dark Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battle.net,
East realm, 5pm EST, channel Clan ValarGuild
Members: Alatar, Eonwe, Beleg,
Caranthir, Feanor, Glorfindel, Gwaihir, Haldir, Imrahil, Khamul, Thror,
After-chat: Oropher, Tulkas/Astaldo,
Briefly spotted: K4th/Elenwe
Visitors: Turin(AoI), Cronos
Membership: 147 on Members page by Elatan
Eonwe was operating from his friend's
computer to reach the meeting. Thank you, kindly friend!
Khamul is having internet connection problems, but
managed to come to the meeting via laptop.
Tulkas has found a way back onto D2X, even making it
the meeting! He hopes to be able to upgrade the necessary things so as
go back into EQ in the future.
Imrahil is back! He says he has been playing in
Europe with the Greeks, mostly in BroodWar's Lost Temple.
Gerontius Took is very active now in DaoC.
Lindir has set up the website on what should now be a stable location,
has decided to stick with the EZBoard forum. Fine job!
AD&D (Advanced Dungeons &
Dragons text game): Turgon reporting
Characters have been started,
a short run at playing to try them out. Since it's still early, you can
join up as well.
Play is Friday in MSN, starting
around 6-7 to 12 EST.
The story is recorded afterwards
to Turgon's page.
WoW (World of WarCraft rpg):
Eonwe needs email from you if you
planning to join this group, so that he can begin the administration
Later is fine too, but this could be a big help. Khamul has volunteered
WC3 Frozen Throne:
Gorbag is beta testing and found
info showing how to make a channel and guild set-up as it is currently
The clans/guilds will be cleared after the beta testing and the regular
clans will then set up.
Eonwe is our chosen chieftain,
the project and paperwork. When the game starts, we will have to act
to grab our name. At the meeting, Gwaihir and Khamul
volunteered to help Eonwe.
Email Eonwe if you're also interested in helping. Also, we will need a
of us gathered at the same time to take the guild/clan name.
DaoC (Dark Age of Camelot):
Alatar gave a discussion
how to join the guild without as much difficulty as he went through.
/who Valar to find the guild and ask for help. He also told how it is
and answered questions.
Tolkien chat started very late, in the
Turin's topic: What is Bombadil? The group in the
at the time agreed that Eru and the Valar were highly unlikely. Maia
much more likely. It was also possible that he could be one of
protectors of the forest, similar to the Ents' function, as a life form
at the beginning of the world.
Turin: Did Frodo complete his quest? His answer was
because Frodo required Gollum to swear on the Ring not to harm him or
or take the Ring, on pain of jumping off a cliff or into fire. When
bit off Frodo's finger, he harmed Frodo and tried to take the Ring, so
Ring enforced the oath both ways, by having Gollum fall off the cliff
the fire of Mt. Doom. It may not have realized that it was held by
at the same time, since it was still on Frodo's finger leaving him the
of the Ring still. Thus it accidentally doomed itself fulfilling
command. Also, a part of Frodo, his finger, did indeed complete the
March 22, 2003
WC3 Clan Creation:
Gorbag sent nifty
of the beta version of how to build the guild branch. We are nearly
Eonwe is the chosen chieftain
and will be co-ordinating that project. Please email him with your
March 21, 2003
The DaoC website has
moved to its new location.
March 18, 2003
Khamul sent an email letting us
know he's still okay, but
is having problems reaching the internet. He says to keep his name
and he'll be back as soon as possible.
March 17, 2003
Gerontius Took's daughter had surgery today,
so expect him to be less active in the guild for awhile. Good luck!
March 16, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet, Dark
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battlenet
5pm EST, East Realm, closed. Channel Clan ValarGuild
Members: Ancalagon, Beleg, Caranthir,
Daeron, Elrond, Eonwe/Fionwe, Glorfindel, Gwaihir, Haldir, Turgon,
Turin, Varda (presiding)
Visitor: Kor-Masterbarb aka Gotr-Uldor,
looking for a duel and not getting it as the guild doesn't duel
Membership: 147 active, full members listed on Members
New members since last meeting: Aredhel and Elladan
joined on DaoC. Beleg and Haldir joined on Battle.net.
Beleg and Haldir said their "few words".
Huan had to miss the meeting, to visit his
a worthy reason! He has started on the Middle-earth mod of D2X.
Web: nothing new reported
Guild hunt now each Sunday after
the regular meeting on DaoC.
Turgon's group is starting Friday
21 or Saturday March 22. It will begin on Bnet and intends to
move to MSN. Watch his web page for more info.
Turin wrote in Quenya and gave us the translation of
this original work:
Night has come and no one
can stop it
but don't give up all hope
for day shall come again
and to those who are faithful
the light shall shine more
Topic from DaoC group: Did elves participate
actively in the Third Age?
Turin - helped Arnor
- role in the Battle of Five Armies
Gwaihir - Legolas. (That
one word was enough to cover a ton of discussion!)
Elrond - elves sat, didn't fight
Elrond didn't help or house the dwarves and Bilbo on their mission.
elves and Lorien didn't fight Dol Guldur in the war.
Gwaihir - Elrodn helped organize
and supply the Fellowship.
Turgon - Lothlorien threatened
Sauron so gondor didn't have to pull more weight.
Turin - they sat somtimes for
Turgon - they suffered three
attacks from the remains of Dol Guldur.
Gwaihir- Galadriel constantly
angered Sauron by being unreadable.
Turgon - as was Elrond in
Elrond - Gildor didn't scare the
Gwaihir - Glorfindel saved
Frodo's life. Elrond saved his life as well.
Turin - Elrond fostered heirs of
Ancalagon - elves were active
just in more supportive roles.
Turgon - Cirdan gave Narya to
Ancalagon - elves didn't have
numbers to field large armies.
Topic from Eonwe: What continuing Valar influence
might be likely in the Fourth Age, if any?
(Since I got into this one
good bit, I didn't have time to jot down the comments. It was quite
March 10, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
She is from Canada, EST. She joined the DaoC branch, but also has EQ,
and Diablo. She's read the H, LotR, Sil, and UT. Her score on Irmo's
was an impressive 5/5. Her favorite LotR character is Sam, because he
hope for common folk of good heart and loyalty.
DaoC announcement from Irmo:
March 9, 2003
From now on we will have a Guild hunt each sunday starting at 3:30-3:45 =
PM EST, depending on the amount of Guild announcements. All members are =
welcome to join. Depending the attendance we can form multiple parties =
from different seasons
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet,
Dark Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battle.net
East Realm, channel Clan Valarguild, 5pm EST
Members: Caranthir, Eonwe (DB),
Feanor, GerontiusTook, Gwaihir, Gorbag, Turgon, Varda
Visitors: FingolfinlLotrl, FeanorLotR (both
DB: Eonwe, Turgon
After meeting: Shagrat
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Haldir is 13, from California, USA in the PST. He is also
He plays SC/BW, D2X, sometimes Age of Empires, and plays nearly daily.
has AIM, using MagicBaller21. He's read the H and LotR. His favorite
in LotR is Eowyn because she killed the Witch-king. He completed his
March 8 with Varda, chose his name March 9 after the meeting, a name
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Haldir scouted, bringing his friend FeanorLotR. Beleg is 13, from
USA in the PST. He plays mostly SC, sometimes D2X, mostly on weekends.
uses Aim as jingohunter. He's read the H, LotR, and Sil. His favorite
in LotR is Gwaihir, because he is so above everything, almost
Beleg joined the guild after the meeting, Varda testing.
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
He met the DaoC folk where he joined, tested by Irmo after the DaoC
He is 17, from the USA, PST. He plays DaoC, SC, and Diablo. He has read
H and LotR. His favorite character is Frodo, for his courage to take on
challenges, and to not take the easiest paths.
Argon joined this week also, see his report
Boromir had to take a course, missing the
meeting, but sends his regards.
Tolkien Encyclopedia: Non-human Intelligences:
"Draugluin" by ~Maglor-V
Eonwe will be the
for the guild, assuming we and Blizzard manage to make it. We will need
make it right away, with Eonwe and nine other players to be sure to
our name. Currently Blizzard is only offering us a 4 character name. We
use V or Vala, waiting to see. Vala is the singular of Valar.
AD&D: report by GerontiusTook and
Three people are confirmed
play, another said by email he would also like to play. Players don't
to be from the Valar Guild. Gerontius will be making his character
We now have a name for
members to play public cow games, CowRaid1, CowRaid2, etc. This is much
fun than the impersonal, strictly public games. It works best for just
few members. If we have a lot of members, some can be left behind, so
is best to play in the regular guild games or add a -C to the game
We had a suggestion (please remind me who) that we could also have a
passworded game for outsiders to join us. If they are potential
we can use the game we already have for them.
the CowRaid out, we found a public player who went hostile, then
our member agreeing to it, killed that member and stole the poison
charms out of his inventory, not bothering the items on his body. This
to be a hack. He did not manage to kill the other member since that one
left the game when the player went hostile, having seen what happened
the other only seconds before. It all happened very fast.
Tolkien: chat held in Bnet
Feanor-V's topic: Who is Gil-galad's father:
Haldir, Orodreth, or Fingon?
It is interesting to note that although the
has Fingon clearly as the father, Tolkien had other thoughts about who
could have been instead. Feanor also gave an interesting discussion
how Ereinon and Gil-galad could be two different people.
March 8, 2003
welcome to the Valar Guild! Argon aka Arakano,
is 19, from Canada in EST, read the H and LotR, and joined the guild
Dark Age of Camelot as member 21. He speaks a little Quenya. Gandalf
Irmo tested. Argon plays DaoC, Anarchy Online, and EQ. His favorite
character is Fangorn, old and uses simple logic.
March 7, 2003
new article by ~Maglor
Names for Role-playing" by Irmo-(Valar). Accidentally
put in the wrong place earlier, now in its own location.
March 2, 2003
Sunday Meeting BattleNet, Yahoo Chat, DaoC
Sunday Meeting Battlenet East Realm 5pm EST channel Clan ValarGuild
Attending: report by Turgon
Members: Alatar, Cirdan,
Elenwe (came in as K4th), Eonwe, Thror, FarmerMaggot, GerontiusTook,
Huan (through Valarbuddy), Irmo, Turin, Turgon, Varda (presiding).
After meeting: Gildor, Thror (Bain's account was
actually being used by Cirdan)
Visitor: Ex-Irmo honored us with a visit as
Discussion Board chat room: many tried to
come in, but the board was buggy. Eonwe, the many-times dropped, came
up with this list:
Amillo_v/Elatan, bunbunminilop, Celeborn-v, draugluin_v,
Farmer_Maggot_v, gandalf_valar2003, gerontiustook_v, Irmo_v, Turgon_v,
Membership: 142 full members listed on the Members page by
Amlaith has made it back online after
moving to a new home. We enjoyed his company in D2X after the meeting.
Web: see gaming
& Dragons online text game is being set up. Email
Turgon if you'd like to play, and check his web page for more info.
NeverWinter Nights LotR map, on a web page
utilizing some of Elatan's Annals of Arda material such as his text and
drawn map, needs players.
WarCraft3 Frozen Throne beta testers, 10,000 of
have been selected and will be recieving email notification shortly.
We adjourned to the Yahoo chat, after one of
shortest Bnet business meetings in history, to join the DaoC and any
non-Bnet Tolkien or full members for what we hope to be a monthly
for a Tolkien chat. A great many members had difficulty entering, or
there, found the chat very buggy. At least some members under 13 were
from the chat. Those who could chat had some really good Tolkien talk.
So we are considering another means, perhaps a chat
or IRC from Mirabilis, now called ICQ.com
perhaps using the old MiRC script from Beren/Tulkas or another method.
and suggestions for an easy PC/Mac supporting well-nigh bug-free
spot are welcome. Email Varda with suggestions.
Feb. 28, 2003
Dungeons & Dragons) online: Turgon and Gerontius Took
have set up this page on Turgon's site for those interested.
Amlaith's real life move is complete
and he emails that he is trying to come back online with us.
For those in the USA interested
rockets, help is needed to correct the Homeland Security
Act. Link from Meriadoc-(V).
Feb. 26, 2003
page is now the official Valar Guild branch Dark Age of
Camelot home page.
Tolkien Chat Sunday:
The DaoC group intends to be in
Yahoo chat room this coming Sunday for Tolkien. Battlenet will try to
make their business meeting very short and move to the chat board
right away. DaoC group's suggested topics so
1. How are the books of Tolkien
(LOTR/SIL/HOME etc.) related? In what order can they best be read?
2. Why did the High-elves of Middle
Earth not participate actively in the War of the Rings? Why did they
limit themselves to defending their homely regions? (With
the explainable exception of Elrond's sons)
3. The Eldar and the Numenorean-related
humans sometimes have the power of foresight and hindsight, seeing
what is hidden both in future and past. Do we have examples that even
hobbits can have that ability?
Eonwe of Battlenet also suggests this topic for one of our chats:
What form do you think the guidance of the Valar will take in
the future, or do you think mankind will be on its own until the End?
Feb. 25, 2003
A new Tolkien map
for NWN is available on Lands of Arda.
The map and Lands of Arda site was created partly copying Tolkien info
Annals of Arda, the companion encyclopedia by Elatan fka Amillo to our
Encyclopedia, and Elatan kindly sent us the URL. I hope they give
credit for his work at some point; at least we can do so! The map
to have more add-ins, the nazgul module most recently.
We need beta-testers to send in reviews to Eonwe to remain on the Games
page; if a copy is also sent to Varda,
I can also put in a mention on the News.
Feb. 24, 2003
Turin told about a new book he
had bought, Tolkien's World from A to Z, the Complete Guide to
He hopes it will help him do Tolkien articles, with ideas and
to where the original info can be found. It's sometimes entertaining
doing the original research with such books as leads to catch the
that tend to creep in such books. With luck and our hundreds of
may we continue to keep adding to and correcting our own Tolkien
Feb. 23, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet,
Sunday Meeting Battle.net
5:00 PM EST
Attending: Report from Gwaihir
Alatar, Bain, Beor, Draugluin, Cirdan, Elrond, Eonwe
Erestor, Eru, FarmerMaggot, GerontiusTook, Gwaihir (roll), Huan,
(popped in and out), Maedhros, Thror, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Membership: Members page by Elatan shows 142
New Members since last meeting:
Faramir of DaoC, Caranthir of Bnet.
Haleth changed his name to Angrod.
Dwarves: "Bombur" by
World CyberGames: Includes Blizzard
See Draugluin's report Feb 17 We somehow sidetracked and did not
to discuss this as we had hoped.
D2X: First successfully completed D2X Quest
for Four game.
NWN: no report
DaoC: See DaoC
Gerontius Took's topic: What were the
large statues on the river, and the small statues at the entrance to
the Paths of the Dead?
The Argonath: Isildur and
Anarion. They were Numenorian kings, ancestors of Aragorn's.
Pukel-men, also called Druadan,
Woses. The people of Ghan-buri-ghan.
Erestor's topic: The making of the dwarves
His error, Eru's reaction, Aule's response, Eru's response. The fate of
dwarves. In the Letters of JRR Tolkien, the mates of the dwarves were
as well, treated the same.
We worked some more to help members go into the
Yahoo Discussion Board chat room. More are making it in.
Those who made it into DB
that Eonwë jotted down are: Varda, Irmo, Eru,
Elrond_v_peredhil, chubchub_02, crazy_jackrabbit_stoopid_weezal,
A number of these are the email names of members,
showed up instead of their guild names. chubchub is Thror, crazy
is the old Cirdan, bananakid is Khamul.
Meeting report Valar/DaoC Sunday
februari 23, 2003
Members present Gandalf/Olorinv, Irmo/Yrma (pres.),
Membership: Yojimba chose Faramir as his Guildname.
Valarguild member of honour Rose Cotton joined with her DaoC-character
Big welcome to her, being the RL daughter of Orome. (For those that are
“members of honour” in the Valarguild – like Falathar and Rose Cotton,
members – sons/daughters of older members – who are young enough not to
a regular member (at the discretion of parents).
We now have 17 members at Valar-DaoC!
Funding: Due to expenses for advancing various
tradeskills we now have 200 g left in the Guild bank.
About 9 characters are in their mid-twenties now and will soon be
new equipment. Level 30 equipment easily costs 200 g. Until now, the
has had no financial worries, thanks especially to Melkor and Orome
Of course, at a given moment - being now - the Guild has to try and
on its own two legs.
The following measures were proposed to further improve Guild economy:
- Members are asked to “buy locally”. If you buy from Guild crafters it
cheaper for you, while the crafters can advance their skills that way.
- Members are asked – especially from 25th season onward – not to sell
armour or weapons they find to the NPC’s (if the item will not be
but to sell/give them to Yrma for salvaging.
- Services of Guildcrafters like Gandie (Gandalf), Yrma and Austi
have until now been mostly free for members, this policy however can
be sustained for members whose main characters are younger than 20th
We agreed that everybody is free to follow their heart as to
tradeskills, but the Guild cannot support all crafters.
We agreed on the following list of “main” Guildcrafters, whose skills
will be supportable by Guild financing:
- Spellcraft: 1. Gandie (Gandalf), 2. Aldaronv
- Alchemy: 1. Tamoin (Tuvo), 2. Aziriphael (Lindir)
- Fletching: 1. Raime (Lindir)
- Weapons: 1. Austi (Melkor)
- Tailor: 1. Olorinv (Gandalf), 2.
- Armour: 1. Yrma (Irmo), 2. Almaen (Lindir)
The list is based on present skills and commitments.
If your crafter is not on this list, but should be, please holler. If
crafter is on this list but should not be, please holler
If you want to exercise a tradeskill, but are not on this list (which
2 crafters per skill maximally), you would do wisely to advance the
in such a way that it does not cost you money, but actually earns you
income (by doing craft consignments). For now, it would be rather
if for instance we were all starting on alchemy/spellcrafting (no
devours your income).
Next meeting: Sunday march 2, 3:30 PM EST, followed
by the Tolkien chat, in the Yahoo Discussion Board Chat Room, at 5
Feb. 20, 2003
Letter from Michael Bowman of Vivendi Universal,
concerning our use of Tolkien book names in Dark Age of Camelot and
elsewhere, for characters and websites:
Note from Varda: The above Houghton
Mifflin link also has bits of Tolkien info.
Bowman, Mike wrote:
Houghton Mifflin is the exclusive U.S. publisher for these line of
books. I am sorry, but I do not know who would be able to grant you
anyone) to use the names.
Check this site for more info
We only do some of the software games for these titles. EA also has a line.
I would assume there are many, many places where this is broken up and I
don't know if you will ever find the proper person who can say for sure if
you are allowed to use the names for non-profit or not.
Manager Online Support
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Caranthir was scouted by his real-life friend (and now father!),
He came in on BroodWar as Finwe_ and tested across two different days
Varda. He is 15, from Louisiana, USA, in CST. He's read the H, LotR,
some of the Sil. He plays SC/BW. He used to play Age of Mythology, but
not currently. He has been on from once to three times a week in Bnet.
favorite LotR character is Legolas.
D2X report: from Varda
I have the pleasure of reporting the first successfully
completed Quest for Four in D2X:
Team Score: 35
Tie-breaking number if needed: 203,224
Bain's assassin (lag, dropped a number of times, but completed!): 8
Gelmir's druid: 9 with 56,792
Thror's sorceress: 9 with 50,880
Varda's amazon, found bow early: 9 with 57,552
Feb. 17, 2003
Gaming Contest: Letter from Draugluin:
A bit of gaming news to pass along, and I didn't
want to forget it before next Sunday. The World Cyber Games, a kind of
Olympics for video games, are about to begin signing up entries. In
fact they may have already started. The world finals are being held in
Seoul, South Korea next November, and the grand prize is $20,000. The
point is, Brood War and Warcraft 3 are two of the "events" in this
year's games, along with other games like Counterstrike and Age of
Mythology. Thought I'd send this along, since maybe some of our guild's
game masters would like to take a shot at this. 50 or so countries
participate, so pretty much everyone can enter. Finally, the web site
Hope to see some Valar members there!
Namarie, Draugluin Wolfsire
Feb. 18, 2003
A Yahoo chat problem solution? Letter from Scatha:
I just tried it, and I think I have
found the problem people are having.
His follow-up letter:
They are running WindowsXP and need to have Java
installed. Microsoft does not offer a download for this (although
there was a court injunction against them on this particulare issue)
Java can be downloaded from here: http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/Redirect/25697325/5847479377282807053505607246086069333228071972022813600060132859339008063305596058473206-3865/j2re-1_4_1_01-windows-i586.exe
I'll install java before I format.. having some
puter problems 8-/
I installed java from the Sun microsystems site and it
doesnt want to work with yahoo's java chat client. Go figure.
Heres microsofts java page: http://www.microsoft.com/java/
And microsofts java resources page (download their version): http://www.microsoft.com/isapi/gosupport.asp?TARGET=/support/java/default.asp
They sure made it interesting on how to get java to work on WinXP.. 8-/
Scatha continues on the Discussion Board.
Feb. 17, 2003
Caution: Varda's computer may be infected
with a virus,
probably Worm-Klez. I do not send attachments of programs, screenshots,
anything else. If you see such a fake email, please do not
open the attachment! Delete it right away, even out of your trash.
Haleth-(V) has changed his name to Angrod-(V).
has a new email. He's been moving to a new home, working overtime, and
his high-speed internet connection going. Good luck drawing a
Dwarves: "Bombur" new
article by ~Maglor.
Feb. 16, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Bnet,
Battle.net 5pm EST East Realm, Clan ValarGuild
Members (21): (report coming
Raukoluin) (partial report here from Varda): Aragorn, Beor, Daeron,
Dior, Draugluin/Raukoluin, Elrond, Eru,
FarmerMaggot, Feanor, Finwe, Gwaihir, Huan, Irmo, Khamul,
Lungorthin/Nimraug, Shagrat, Thingol/Singollo,
Thror, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Finwe_, Riddermark (last two interested in joining)
Discussion Board chat room: (report
coming from Thror)
Membership: 141 on Members page by Elatan
Gerontius Took emailed to say he'd be
on the road during the meeting.
Elves: "Haldir" by
"Keeping Faith", a
Valentine's Day story from Eonwe-(Valar)
Now in frames. Eonwe has added
Second Discussion Board:
Shagrat made a new Discussion Board,
simple and no ads, which he is offering. This is the early version
we consider it. It shows no chat, so we would have to stick with the
chat, but could be easier to work with on typed messages. Comments on
you would like to use it, please send to Varda. If you want to join it
go to the site and register. Shagrat is the current
WC3: Frozen Throne: Sign-ups
for beta continue through Friday.
Letter from Khamul:
Not sure if you have heard yet but the Frozen
throne beta testers may not release any information
about the game. Im sorry to tell you about this but it
is in the contract if you sign up, so the guild will
not beable to write out any story about this without
being sued by the state of california. Also my
computer crashed thursday and i cant get it fixed till
probably monday. Hope to see you on b.net soon..
Email report from
only a suggestion but it will help guild members get together on
NWN. What Turgon-V and I did was make Game Arda and use guild
password on action tab and would suggest that be the format for any
guild members playing on NWN. I.E. use same names as Guild Diablo
2X games and same password. Hopefully this will help us to play
together more often.
Ulmo-(Valar) has reached
61 and been accepted by Alliance of Hope. He is willing to help guild
who come into EQ. Please help keep our EverQuesters page updated so we
find each other with friend lists. Taglos is also willing to
Dungeons & Dragons:
is trying to start up an online D&D game, working out details. He
to know if there is interest. The amount of interest will influence how
is set up. Email him if you would like to do this.
The news part of the business meeting was brief, so
we could work on an experiment. We need to see if we can get all our
members into the Yahoo Discussion Board chat. It was a mess. Some had
used the DB, some had problems with the applet. Please practice to see
you can get in during the week. We would like to try to conduct Tolkien
there to include Tolkien members who do not come on bnet or whose CD's
broken and other disasters. The chat is a place we can reach from any
without a CD.
Using Explorer, we can use a microphone and have
voice capability. Eru demonstrated during our chat.
I did not find a voice capability on my Netscape
but the newer one might have it. Tell me if you know.
To reach the Discussion Board, go to the index
the guild pages/ Tolkien/ Discussion Board. Then sign in. If you need
invitation, email Varda.
Be absolutely sure to uncheck the advertising boxes
Yahoo! They send a huge amount of spam otherwise. Do this by clicking
Info found in the top right. Then go to Membership Information and
all those boxes. Also note the Newsgroup link, go there, and unclick
Turgon and Raukoluin: applet for chat would not
Daeron: chat screen came up too small to read.
Please email Varda with solutions to chat problems
(including ones you solved) to post on News.
Meeting report Valar/DaoC
Sunday februari 16, 2003
Report from Irmo-(Valar), the Incredibly Hard-Working
Gandalf/Olorinv, Irmo/Yrma (pres.), Lindir/Raime, Lungorthin/Raukov,
Membership: A warm welcome to Yojimba, who was
into the DaoC Guild by Lungorthin and passed the 5 entry questions!
will yet choose his Guildname. And a warm welcome to Lady Nireis, who
invited to Daoc-Valar by Gandalf, and is currently reading LOTR.
Amnon reached his 20th season and was ceremonially handed his
cloak and shield during the meeting. We agreed this ceremonial will
now on be customary for all characters upon reaching 20th season.
20th is not only momentous because of emblem rights, but also because
that age members start being able to defend the realm.
We now have 16 members at Valar-DaoC!
Web page: Big cheers went out to Lindir the
whose new Valar-DaoC www-page is a very beautiful site indeed! Lindir
about his plans for further augmentations. Please send him your
Tradeskills: Be sure to type [ /webdisplay
on ] for your crafter, when in game! Everyone is free to follow their
regarding tradeskills. But, after reaching 650, specialization is
within the Guild. Advancing from there is very expensive, and is in
of Guild support. Alchemy and spellcraft need support from the start as
is, though tasking might be implemented at a next patch. As yet, only
(Tailor) and Yrma (Armour) are beyond level 650.
Funding: Due to expenses for advancing various
tradeskills we now have 330 g left in the Guild bank.
Topic: How do we organize our Tolkien commitments?
Discussion treated 3 dilemma’s: preparation (prepared in advance or
frequency (weekly vs. monthly), place (DaoC/B.net/Yahoo Chatroom). We
the following agreement to be put to the b.net community as a proposal:
Tolkien chats, well-prepared in advance, in the Yahoo chatroom. Let’s
if both the DaoC and B.net communities are prepared to leave their
and go there for discussing Tolkien. Time: 5 PM EST, with the request
the B.netters if they would hold their business meeting after the chat.
that is not possible we could for instance choose 4 PM EST. First
Tolkien chat would be March 2nd, to be prepared by one DaoC-er and one
Business meetings for DaoC-Valar will continue to take place every
in Mag Mell at 3:30 PM EST. To be kept short and to the point.
so to speak <grin>.
Suggestions by Amnon were discussed: to organize a tutoring of new
by experienced members, both regarding Tolkien and gaming, and to
reading Tolkien by giving out “research” consignments for those who
like to advance Guild-ranks that way. Members present agreed on these
but how to organize this? Will be further discussed by mail.
Next meeting: Sunday februari 23, 3:30 PM EST.
Feb. 16, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Faramir is a real-life friend of Lungorthin's who joined us from Dark
of Camelot. He's on DaoC around five times a week. He's 19, but
his 20th birthday on Feb 18. He's from the USA, in CST. His ICQ is
He's read the LotR. Lungorthin scouted, Irmo-(Valar) gave the
test. Faramir's favorite LotR character is Legolas.
Feb. 15, 2003
Lindir has his new DaoC page up.
Feb. 13, 2003
"Keeping Faith": I've been
mulling this story over in my head for the last couple of weeks, and as
time passed it only seemed fitting that it should be typed up and ready
to be posted for Valentine's Day. I hope I have done justice to
the tale from which this is extended.
Well, Happy Valentine's Day to all the lovers in the Guild :}Take care
Now in Frame
is also an option.
Throne: report from Eonwe
for Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne begin tomorrow (Friday 14th) and run
through next Friday :}
Feb. 11, 2003
Web: The DaoC
guild is now listed on its own page in The
Camelot Herald listing members and their stats, picked up
directly from the game with a slight delay.
Ulmo has found a spot in
Alliance of Hope, and is now a level 61 wood elf Warder. The
is not yet listed on Guild Magic.
Feb. 10, 2003
Tip from GerontiusTook:
This is only a suggestion but it will
help guild members get together on NWN. What Turgon-V and I did
was make Game Arda and use guild password on action tab and would
suggest that be the format for any guild members playing on NWN.
I.E. use same names as Guild Diablo 2X games and same password.
Hopefully this will help us to play together more often.
Feb. 9, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battlenet
and NWN; Dark
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting 5pm
EST, East Realm, Battle.net, channel Clan
Attending: roll report by Turgon sent Tuesday
Alatar (late), Bain (after meeting), Beorn, Curufin (came in before meeting, had a hockey game, couldn't stay), Dain (after meeting), Draugluin, Elenwe, Elrond, Eonwe (was also on DB), Erestor (late), Eru, FarmerMaggot, Gerontius Took, Gil Galad, Gwaihir, Khamul, Lungorthin (came in after meeting, was also on DaoC), Thingol, Thror, Turgon, Varda (preciding).
Gotr-Uldor, Ibun (was quite a nuisance), Telchar, ThesilverDragon (didn't stay for whole meeting).
Telchar would have been banned, had he stayed
longer, for channel misbehavior.
Ibun and Gotr-Uldor are the same person, his BW
has been muted before he met us. He is trying to join the guild and
on getting members to recommend him. Chair and co-chair considered him
be currently unsuitable for guild material, but he might learn.
TheSilverDragon was polite.
DB chat room: Eonwe, Thror
Celeborn (DaoC) Feb. 1,
Bain (D2X, NWN) Feb. 2,
Cirdan (D2X, NWN) Feb. 2,
GerontiusTook (D2X, NWN)
Feb. 6, 2003
Two new folks are now playing
with the guild in DaoC, Ettoip and Kirryn,
with hobbit status. Good luck to them on their tests!
member playing in D2X and NWN, said his few words.
Elatan, welcome back
from your ski trip!
Curufin dropped by before the meeting and
said hi. Time won't allow him to stay for the meeting, so he does this.
Bain-V came to the meeting too late to give
his few words this time, but we'll catch him yet. Cirdan was not home
during the meeting.
Shagrat dropped by after the meeting in the
channel, in D2X. He says hi and that he has sax lessons during the
He is in three bands. He is doing his part by keeping the Music going!
hopes to be on a lot for the next few days, so be sure to look him up!
Melkor will be vacationing to warmer climes
Feb 12 to March 30 and asks us to hold all emails until his return He
Orome his proxy.. Have a great time!
kindly offered free server space to the Valar Guild
web pages. With Alatan, Bombadil, and Shagrat
all giving space, we are a
very lucky guild indeed!
Now in progress. Please be sure
to email Eonwe, coordinator,
to let him know you would like to participate. The first two
installments are up.
Page - New Links:
that Two Towers characters might have left on their answering machines.
Link suggested by Meriadoc-(V) via email
the Two Towers Captions:
Captions garbled as if translated between Japanese and English as so
used to occur in service manuals. Link suggested at the meeting by
Good movie photos.
article by Varda-(Valar)
article by Varda-(Valar)
and Encyc: massive
additions by Eonwe-(Valar). He's been taking notes while
Gerontius asked the question a
of us were wondering about. How do we get together for a NWN game? It
you have to know the name of the game you want to play, then that
game has a channel. I suggest getting together in a bnet channel,
on the game name there, then changing suits to go to that game on NWN
the next game name can be agreed on. Also, use the NWN friend list.
mentioned in the meeting as operating on NWN or about to were:
Age of Camelot
will soon be operating its own News page, since Elatan-(Valar) has
He and Lindir-(V) are doing linked sites, in time-honored Valar Guild
No DaoC folk dropped by bnet after their meeting.
Topic from Varda: What influences from the
Valar can be found in the Lord of the Rings?
Bilbo was meant to find the Ring,
and Frodo was meant to inherit it legally.
Actions by the Istari, who were
Maiar, especially Gandalf.
Visions: Sent, among others, to
Faramir, Boromir, Frodo
Dark Age of Camelot - Sunday meeting:
Hail ye all!
A very warm welcome to Ettoip and
Kirryn who joined our ranks this week, invited by Melkor and Haleth.
And a very warm welcome to our maia
Lungorthin, who joined us in game in Hibernia yesterday with his
We now have 13 members at Valar-DaoC,
all of them very active, check the attachments:
The meeting report - attached - gives
you a nice impression of how incredibly well we are all doing for a
Guild that is not even a month old! Thanks to you all for your
fantastic commitment! Be sure to check the links to the Camelot Herald,
where our Guild now proudly appears on the official DaoC pages!
The list of members - also attached -
has mostly been updated by me taking notes in-game. It is therefore
bound to be full of mistakes and omissions:). Please send us your
updates folks! Cannot have enough of them!
I am deeply grateful to Varda and
Eonwe, who are so kind as to update the Valar Motherguild pages with
our news and results. Even when keeping us organized on B.net takes so
much of their time as it is. <bows deeply>
Poor Elatan will have tons of
page-updating to do when he returns form skiing. I hope Lindir's page
is coming along too. The screenshots from our Thidranki adventure are
great, Lindir, thanks! Lots of laughter by Almaen's head on the bottom
of the Albion river:). For those of you that don't have it: to open
Lindir's screenies, goto http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm,
and download the free program winrar3.11.
Hope to greet you all soon again,
Meeting report Valar/DaoC Sunday februari 9, 2003
Members present: Haleth/Aurgus, Ettoip, Irmo/Yrma
(pres.), Lindir/Raime, Melkor/Morgothv, Nain/Nainin, Orome/Aldaronv.
Membership: A warm welcome to Ettoip and Kirryn, who were
into the DaoC Guild by Haleth and Melkor! Kirryn is the rl wifemate of
while Ettoip is a rl friend of Haleth.
Amnon is back from Australia and was seen in a group with Irmo/Yrma and
Welcome back! Elatan is coming back from skiing monday 10. Melkor will
going on holiday and will be away from computer starting wednesday 12
late in march.
Lungorthin came in later during the day with Nimraugv, who was properly
and set at his due rank of maia! That was when most Valar were in
(more about that below), but we will meet again mellon!
We now have 13 members at Valar-DaoC!
Tradeskills: With Olorin (Gandalf, cloth, 650),
(Irmo, reinforced, 650) and Almaen (Lindir, scale, 555) we now have the
pretty much covered. Nainin (Nain) and Azriphael (Lindir) have started
alchemy, both at about 400. Gandie’s spellcraft is nearing 600, and he
imbueing for all of us. Andr’s weaponcraft is now at 555!
All in all an incredible result for a Guild that is less than a month
Be sure to set [ /webdisplay trades on ] for your crafter, when in
Yrma, Almaen and Raime now are shown proudly on the Camelot Herald
Thanks to Lindir for the tip. Check it out here: The Camelot Herald
Funding: Melkor donated yet another 100 g this week, so
we now have 500 g for Guild funding!
1. Technical game discussion on rams, siege, siegecraft and
We have no expert in the Guild. Nain kindly suggested a friend of him
prepare a lecture for us. We also will look into what is on the
2. Should friends who are invited into the Guild be allowed to wear the
while they have not done the 5 questions (yet)? A question with many
many of them discussed at meeting. We agreed that the Guild leadership
prepare a proposal for next meeting.
Muire quest: Gandalf, Irmo, Lindir, Melkor, Aurgus
and Kirryn have finished this challenge during last week!
Thidranki adventure: After the meeting Haleth/Aurgus, Ettoip,
Lindir/Almaen and Melkor/Andr went together into Thidranki, the 21-24
to defend the realm against Midgard and Albion. We succeed in forming a
main force of – in the end – two fighting groups (16 players), and 5
Even then we were massacred by huge numbers of enemies. Hibernians were
by Yrma and Andr. Goto The Camelot Herald: Guild Registry, and see the
Almaen already sent you his delicious screenshots.
Next meeting: Sunday februari 16, 3:30 PM EST
Feb. 7, 2003
"Legolas", article by Varda-(Valar)
article by Varda-(Valar)
article by Varda-(Valar)
Feb. 6, 2003
Took, Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Gerontius, the Old Took, found our web site while looking for a
Nights group. NWN guys, take note! He liked the Tolkien and legitness
our group and found us in the play channel on D2X, passing his test
Varda 5/5. He's 46, from Georgia, USA, in the EST. He currently plays
and D2X daily or ever other day. His favorite character in LotR is
the smoke-ring blower who both enjoys himself and helps.
We had a Menelvagor sighting! Congratulations
for your new internet connection (or friend's connection), in your new
Mankind: "Hama" -
new article by ~Maglor (not guild).
Additons to Names
and/or Encyc mentions or articles of characters
by Eonwe-(Valar) (some repeats):
Eorl, Eothain (article, especially needed after
movie played around with name), Erkenbrand, Gamling, Garulf, Hama,
Felarof, Firefoot, Snowmane
Hobbit page: Varda added
an ABC bar
at the top for navigation aid, now that this page has gotten so long.
seems to have worked ok on the Elves and Men page. Feedback on this
system is requested. If it is not good enough even with the browser's
at the top, I will begin work on something more space-intensive for the
using more frames and splitting into multiple pages.
Feb. 2, 2003
Sunday Meetings: Battle.net,
Age of Camelot
Sunday Meeting Battle.net
5pm East Realm, Channel Clan ValarGuild. Report from Eru-(Valar)
Members: Beor, Draugluin, Elros,
Erestor, Eru (presiding), Gwaihir, Huan, Nimraug, Thingol, Thranduil,
As suggested by Thingol, a minute of silence was held for the
seven shuttle astronauts who died Feb 1.
(Note from Varda: Varda (Houston) and Eonwe (near
both from Texas not far from the accident with the astronauts,
appreciate Thingol's bringing this up. Varda was out of town
the meeting, and Eonwe had intended to take the chair, but real life
him away immediately before meeting time, so we didn't have time to
in another. Thanks, Eru, for being there for the guild!)
Ennor was operated by two people, a
duo who took the test with the team of Lungorthin (emailed recruiters'
Draugluin, and Gwaihir, with Turgon observing. Congratulations to both
passing the entry and joining us!
New Members: reports from Lungorthin
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Cirdan is 12, from the USA, EST. He's read the H and LotR. He plays
WC3, NWN, on bnet about once a week. His favorite LotR character is
for kindness and immortality.
Bain, Welcome to the Valar Guild! Bain is
father. His birthday is tomorrow when he will be 40. He's from the USA,
He's read the H, LotR, and Sil. He also plays D2X, WC3, and NWN, and is
bnet about once a week. His favorite LotR character is Tom Bombadil.
Meeting report Valar/DaoC
Sunday februari 2, 2003 report emailed by Irmo-(Valar)
Gandalf/Olorinv, Irmo/Yrma (pres.), Lindir/Raime (late), Nain/Nainin.
Cheers to Celeborn (aka Caressas fka Ellemirev), who
his 5 questions this week! He chose Celeborn as his guild character
Ellemire is mistakenly on the names page as a male eldar.
who made the Lament of the Two Trees, is a lady of the Vanyar.
of course, is the Elvenlord of the Galadhrim in Lothlorien, husband of
Tradeskills: With Olorin (Gandalf, cloth, 624),
(Irmo, reinforced, 610) and Almaen (Lindir, scale, 555) we now have the
pretty much covered. Nainin (Nain) and Azriphael (Lindir) have started
Funding: Melkor donated yet another
g this week and with help from Gandalf Irmo raised another 200 g by
craft tasks. So we now have 400 g for Guild funding!
Names: Mythic is one-sidedly changing character
apparently for no sound reasons. Melkor and Gandalf were victims of
zeal. We will see how this develops and whether measures have to be
Muire quest: Following Gandalf’s suggestion we
up for the Rest in Peace quest, requiring to beat the whole infamous
family. Team were Gandalf (Incanusv/Tharkuun), Irmo (Yrma) and Lindir
at the start helped by Nain’s Breniriu, then by Orome’s Durgil , and in
end by new group members called Hogold and Marceli.
Beare went down fast, then we had to search for a long time for
who did not spawn where he should. But in the end he did. We then
the Conaire group for about 7 times, dying when trying to reach the
behind Conaire to go to Shyena. Shyena was less of a problem. Returning
– again – died at the stairs, but in the end made it to Kasey. Then
disppointment. Kasey went down fast, but she did not drop the required
It appeared that it has to be taken from her using stealth. And none of
were stealthers. We agreed to try again next week, and then grouped
a nightshade or ranger.
We had fun though, and altogether it was a very instructive experience.
Next meeting: Sunday februari 9, 3:30 EST.
Additional note from Varda: I have asked the owners of the LotR text
about naming and websites. They said as long as we are not making real
from our activities, they have no objection. I must add that we are
giving them free advertising
Feb. 1, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Celeborn comes to us from DaoC. He was invited by Gandalf, and tested
Irmo. He's 34, from Tampa, Florida, USA, in EST. He's read the H and
He used to play EQ but shifted to DaoC. His favorite character is Tom
Please observe a moment of silence for the seven
of the space shuttle Columbia, who died this morning in the service of
exploration and learning.
Jan. 31, 2003
New link: Messages
that could have been left on answering machines by Tolkien folk, if
they had answering machines. For the Two Towers only. You may
add your own joke to this message board. Link from Meriadoc-(V).
We can do a message machine joke section on our
jokes page, not restricted to Two Towers. Email it to Varda
to put up.
Jan. 27, 2003
DaoC ranking system, report by Irmo:
The ranking system is as follows:
RIP Muire Quest:
Hobbit: (DaoC nrs 6-9): Invited, not yet passed entry questions
Rohirrim: (5): Member
Gondorean: (4): Member, after a few weeks, if active
Numenorean: (3): Member, after a few months, if active
Firstborn (2): Member, after specific merits to the Guild
Maia: (1): Maia in Motherguild
Vala: (0): Vala in Motherguild
DaoC, report from Irmo:
“Rest in Peace”
(copied from http://camelot.allakhazam.com)
This quest is given by Gogarty Muire in Connacht, close to Muire Tomb
entrance, at loc: 37k, 41k.
Talk to him and he will tell you the story of his family and ask you to
get rid of the curse before he goes mad.
When you accept the quest you receive a Gogarty's Journal, which is the
tool you will be using for this quest as it has all the instructions to
it, remember to check it often, it will update after each step is
All family members are located inside Muire Tomb, so a good map is also
recommended, I used this one:
(ed. note: or you can click link in menu box for multiple map/guide
Now, the quest...
Step 1: Kill Beare. Very easy, no surprises here.
Step 2: Kill Alsandair. You receive a Dueling Sword, keep it!
Step 3: Kill Conaire. You HAVE to kill him using the Dueling Sword you
recieved from Alsandair or quest will not advance.
Up to this point can be done by two persons (We did it as 24 Druid and
Nightshade), but from now on you will need more people.
Step 4: Kill Shyene. Be aware several of her Guards will spawn as soon
you attack Shyena and most of other mobs in the room are linked to her.
Step 5: Kill Kacey. This is a bit more complicated. First, you have to
her to get Kacey's Charm. This is a magical charm that protects her
permanent harm. Second, you must destroy the charm by using it at the
of the stairs, then you can kill Kacey again and quest will advance.
Step 6: Kill Quillan. Nasty mob, be ready.
Step 7: Return to Gogarty Muire and give him the journal.
You receive nearly 1,000.000 xp and 2 gp.
Now you have several rewards to choose from. Note that after you pick
you will be able to choose what material you want it made of (cloth,
reinforced or scale).
Beare's Seashell Belt - Empathy and Strength
Alsandair's Wading Boots - Constitution and Hitpoints
Conaire's Dueling Gloves - Dexterity and Quickness
Shyena's Gossamer Veil - Charisma and Dexterity
Kacey's Soft Sleeves - Intelligence and Dexterity
Quillan's Chest Armor - Constitution and Strength
Dueling Sword Beare's Seashell Belt Shyena's Gossamer Veil
Jan. 26, 2003
We have two separate meeting reports, the
motherguild on Battlenet
5pm EST, and an earlier one on Daoc
(Dark Age of Camelot) 3:30pm EST.
Pick your link or enjoy both. This way of reporting will change when
DaoC web folk are set up a bit better. Elatan is away skiing and
page is not quite ready.
Sunday Meeting on
Battle.net: 5pm EST. SuperBowl at 6 report by Varda-(Valar)
Attending: report by Lungorthin-(Valar)
Members (18): Ancalagon,
Daeron, Dain, Draugluin, Elenwe, Elrond, Eonwe, Eru, Feanor, Frodo,
Huan, Khamul, Lungorthin/Nimraug, Maedhros, Thror, Varda (presiding)
Over the shoulder: Frodo (with Lungorthin)
Discussion Board chat room: Elrond,
Eonwe. Dark Age and EverQuest folk are welcome to come here also.
If we have more on the DB than bnet, we may move a lot of bnet folk
as well. If you need a new invitation (as they expire in a week),
email Varda including your guild name, please.
Feanor dropped by just before the meeting and said
but had to leave. Boromir also sent a hi before the meeting, had a
Thror was our new member this week, Jan 23,
he graciously said his "few words" at the b.net meeting. Huan, the old
before promotion, offered him help.
Taglos and Ulmo have left their guilds in
Taglos's old guild is dissolving due to the leadership deciding to go
to another game. Taglos's character is 63; Ulmo's is 60. Taglos says he
looking for a new guild where he can have fun now rather than waiting
one to build up for 6 months, nor does he want to lead. For Valar Guild
coming into EQ, however, he says, "I don't mind bestowing my lack of
and wisdom to new people." Ulmo has given aid to folk from the guild in
kind of way. Ulmo needs a guild that can support his high level
character, but has no unhappiness with his old guild.
Stories: Two new
stories by Irmo: "Anticlimax", "A Blessing and a Curse"
Mankind: New article by
New article by Irmo: role-playing names for Draugluin, also on the
Updated by Irmo, with input from
Eonwe and Varda
Eonwe-(Valar) is the coordinator
this project. He had to put it on the back burner due to real life last
but is starting it up again for this February. The first two
are on the Story Page. It is set in the First Age in the East, so it
plenty of potential for conflict. Eonwe is working out a general story
Varda and Eowyn suggest also picking out two or three story arcs
to run as well. Eonwe has sent out emails to all members asking if they
be willing to add 200 words (that's not much). If you haven't received
an email, it means we are having problems with your email and you need
email Eonwe to have it corrected, even if you will not be contributing
an EQ branch but are running into problems not present in DaoC due to
ranking system and current guild members not communicating.
Dark Age of Camelot:
Irmo-(Valar) is coordinating
Please email him your suggestions and questions on how to hook up with
official Valar Guild branch on Percival/Hibernia. Members of the
on battlenet automatically can join up if they let the signer-upper
Use your guild name with a v on the end, such as Irmov.
WarCraft 3 Expansion: Frozen Throne:
Beta Testers will be needed in
Let us know if you get signed up! Sign-ups are currently planned to be
World of WarCraft:
This will be an rpg, a persistent
quite probably a pay service as DaoC and EQ are, and we intend to have
official Valar Guild branch there. Eonwe-(Valar) has the job of
that, so be sure to contact him when the time comes and give him your
Elrond-(V) found a 12-page book called Bilbo's
Last Song. It is a poem written as if by Bilbo at the Grey Havens
before his departure.
Varda's topic: Tolkien has recently been accused by
of showing racism in his works. What are your thoughts?
The general answer seemed to be some sexism perhaps,
not really racism. Ancalagon and Khamul said it had some sexism. Some
us felt there was no sexism or racism except as it was shown by
not Tolkien, to illustrate points and because that was the way it was
ancient times. The reaction of characters against sexism can be shown
Eowyn's adoption of the Dernhelm disguise, and against racism in the
friendship. Tolkien himself refused a good deal of money that would
led to racist use of his work by the Nazis. Darkness was a way of
uncertainty, fear, and evil since ancient times and is used that way,
to go against any particular race. Sam is horrified by the fighting
humans in Ithilien and wonders about the dead human enemy who falls by
Nature of good and evil slipped in as usual in our discussions. (Ever
to participate and scribble down a transcription of fast typists? hehe)
Irmo adds from the Discussion Board and email: Any
in the stories who shows racism is proven wrong by the author, whether
guards of Lorien or King Thingol of the Sindar. It is Saruman the White
fell to evil, and Radagast the Brown who withstood. It is Feanor, fair
form and best in crafts of all the elves, who caused the Bane of the
and the Kinslaying. One has to read beyond the superficial to see what
is really saying. Many natives around the equator envisioned evil
as white, and the white men reinforced this by being slavers, but
dark-skinned friends don't speak of giving a white look when they mean
bad look at someone. Day was safe; night was insecure for all people,
so is associated with fearsome things. See Irmo's DB statement for more
Dark Age of Camelot Meeting:
report by Irmo-(Valar)
Meeting report Valar/DaoC Sunday januari 26, 2003
Members present: Gandalf/Olorinv, Irmo/Yrma (pres.),
Lindir/Raime, Melkor/Burl, Nain/Caressas.
Elatan is skiing in Norway (until feb 10), Tuvo is down under in
(coming back this week), and Ellemire, Haleth and Oromë were
by real-life obligations.
Caressas chose Nain as his Guild name. Nain followed Durin I and II as
King of the Dwarves.
Gelmir’s computer problems are solved and tells he will join us now
Lungorthin and Alatar are rumoured to join us soon as well. Which is
The Guild now has an emblem! The Valinorean Tree with
chevron on light blue background. Very distinctive and true to type.
emblem can be worn by characters older than 20th season or higher than
tradeskill, by members who are higher than hobbit rank (t.i. “full”
members, who have passed the entry questions).
Tradeskills now represented in the Guild:
Gandalf has Olorinv (624 tailor) and Gandie (504 spellcraft); Lindir
Aziriphael (255 alchemy), Raime (armourer) and Almaen (fletcher); Irmo
Yrma (511 armor); Noin has Caressas (255 weapon), Melkor has Austi (405
Tuvo has Amnon (tailor). We are looking good here!
Funding. After buying the emblem (and losing some gold in
effort, appeal outstanding), the Guild is almost penniless. Buying the
and advancing the spellcraft was made possible by donations from mainly
and Oromë, and to the extent of their smaller purses by Gandalf,
Irmo/Yrma is treasurer, donations are voluntary and welcome:).
A regular report of income and expenses will be made.
Muling. As in keeping items for the general benefit
all, instead of selling them. Is as yet manageable by individual mules,
we hope that the introduction of Guild Houses will make it possible to
supplies and items for the benefit of the Guild. If that is not the
then we might want to look at Gandalf’s suggestion of a separate Guild
Muire quest. Gandalf suggests to form a group to do the
Muire Quest (lvl 18 minimum), which requires wiping the entire Muire
family, giving great rewards (million exp, nice items).
will organize for us a date and a time to do this together! The quest
a group of at least 4 players around level 18-20, preferably more. Two
at 25 can do it, but none of our Guild characters are level 25 yet.
Meetings will be – as a rule – every week on sundays,
PM EST in the Hibernia zone (Town Hall Mag Mell if you want to see who
talking, hehe). Meetings are to be kept short and to the point. The
Council is looking at possible ways to organize combined Tolkien chats
the DaoC membership and the Battle-net community.
Jan. 23, 2003
Welcome to the Valar Guild! Our
old Thror passed his Maia test to become Huan. *Gimli_02@Azeroth
Thror as the first person he met after his scouter and so often present
the channel if only with a bot. *Gimli spent three months reading LotR
visiting with us, then today passed his entry test with Varda. He went
to play WC3 with Sauron-(Valar). Thror is 16, from Pennsyvania, USA;
He plays WC3 almost daily, but has SC, BW, and D2. Maybe someday he
find the CD-key that would let him play D2X again as well. He's
the LotR and is starting on H, with ambitious plans of adding the Sil
The Adventures of Tom Bombadil after that. He uses AIM as chuginchub.
favorite LotR character is Gandalf, for being wise, powerful, and
him laugh a little.
Expansion: Frozen Throne.
Thanks to Eonwe and Gwaihir for this link and comments. Registered
guilds might even have
special consideration with permanent channels and other goodies; if so,
will sign up. Also, Blizzard could use beta testers!
5,000 from the public! They will be signing up Feb on www.blizzard.com.
of WarCraft: Possible characters are now up. It's fun to see
their ideas of such things as orcs and dwarves. Thanks to Eonwe for the
Jan. 21, 2003
Discussion Board: whoops! I didn't look at it
a little while since it seemed quiet, but then it took off! I
recommend this article Thranduil-(V) located defending Tolkien against
insane charge of racism:
Out on a Limb: The Shadow of Racism"
Jan. 20, 2003
Intelligences: "Draugluin, Role-Playing Names", by Irmo-(Valar)
"Folca", by Daeron-(V)
Stories: 2 new
stories by Irmo-(Valar): a funny one not yet named, and "A Gift and A
Varda's comp is back. It needed a new power
supply and had a Trojan virus/worm/nasssty removed.
Jan. 19, 2003
Sunday Meeting 5pm EST East realm, channel
Clan ValarGuild, and the Discussion Board chat room.
Members (14): Balin, Daeron, Dain,
Eonwe/Fionwe, Erestor, Eru, Frodo, Gwaihir, Huan (late),
Maedhros, Turgon, Varda (presiding) Visitor:
TheCheese (considering joining, had to leave)
Discussion Board chat room: Eonwe
More members probably were present, but these had
the luck of being jotted down. :)
Eol: comp problems. Emailed his hello, see
News Jan 15.
Irmo: emailed hello and said he needed to get up
early so he had to miss the meeting (Netherlands).
Varda: email and web page
comp in shop. Hope to have it back Monday afternoon.
Letter from Lungorthin:
Long time no see... :(
My fault, of
course!, because real life has been taking away my time. I'm incredibly
busy with what we call "Academic Bowl", its like a trivia contest
basically (I got a question about Bilbo last weekend!!), and debate
which takes countless hours to research. Between these two, and my
other homework and friends, I have virtually no time on the computer.
What time I DO have left, I spend with friends.
is letting up since academic bowl is taking up more of our time. FYI,
our entire debate team is on the academic bowl team, and most of us
chose academic bowl. So we're putting all our effort into that right
now, which is a bit easier and less time consuming than debate. On top
of all that, we've started our research paper!! I'm doing mine of
globalization. I haven't picked a thesis yet though...
So, needless to
say (as of right now), my weekends are officially gone, my weekdays are
spent at home studying or doing research, and all the time left is
spent doing something I didn't have time for.
I know how you
told me about all the maiar that attained the honor, then fell into
inactivity. Rest assured that I am still checking the site everyday for
all the current news, and am have my fingers crossed that all this
hectic stuff will be over soon.
Tolkien Encyclopedia: 3 poems by
Turgon; 2 Plant page articles by Varda in response to questions from
artist who found our page.
DaoC: Last Sunday, the DaoC Valar
branch became official on Percival/Hibernia! Irmo is guildmaster.
of motherguild may join the guild branch since they've already
requirements. Use your guild name with a v on the end: Irmo would be
and email Irmo on how to join.
EQ: considering setting up guild branch.
we use a friends list to keep together on Zebuxoruk server, nothing
but may have enough people now. Is anyone interested? Email Varda. The
at the end of the guild name also works for EQ.
Bnet: Gaming meeting. Is anyone interested
up a time during the week and/or weekend to meet for games? If you have
and times you play regularly, these can be listed on the Games page to
others join you. Email Eonwe and/or Varda.
Maiar name question: Should Landroval
considered okay as a Guild Maia name? How about all eagles? Should we
ents in the future to be Guild Maiar names or just the leader Fangorn?
7 Dwarf fathers although we only know Durin's name?
Tolkien chat topic: from Eonwe-(Valar):
Concerning this quote from "The
Black Gate is Closed":
Frodo to Smeagol: "'Give it back
Smeagol', you said. Do not say that again. Do not let that thought grow
you! You will never get it back. But the desire of it may betray you to
bitter end. You will never get it back. In the last need, Smeagol,
I should put on the Precious,
and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to
you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or cast
into the fire. And such would be my command. So have a care, Smeagol."
Topic: Frodo arguably sets up conditions leading to
demise and the destruction of the Ring. However, did he also set up a
where he succumbs to the Ring?
Erestor: Agrees with Eru.
Eonwe: Does it show insight into the future?
Discussion continued on the first and second question.
Look carefully at the quote, gentle reader, as Eonwe
does make a very interesting point.
The topic shifted to the ability to resist the Ring,
having it to the greatest degree. The hobbits were by and large
in power which was the Ring's main purpose. Talk was lively.
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Nain came to us from Dark Age of Camelot, where he was invited by
and tested by Irmo. He's 19, from the USA in the CST time zone, one
earlier than Valar Standard Time. He's read the LotR. He tried the Sil
was unenthusiastic about it. He has also played D2 and EQ, but is now
in DaoC. His favorite LotR character is Gimli, since he has more depth
less stereotype than your average dwarf.
Jan. 16, 2003
page: New poem by Turgon-(V): "Fingolfin's Arrival"
Jan. 15, 2003
Page: Two new poems by Turgon-(V): "Gondorian
Two new articles by Varda: "Elanor", "Niphredil"
Letter from Eol:
Jan. 14, 2003
Just checking in with my friends at the
Valar Guild. I regret that my online absence continues, however
plans are in the works to fix this problem. I will continue to
check out the webpage whenever I can.
Dark Age of
Camelot: New updated page for the branch now that it's on
Percival/Hibernia. Great job, guys!
Jan. 13, 2003
Hey Finrod! If you can read this, LotR
Online's Jeff Ledoux is
looking for you, would like to have you around again, and can't reach
you by email.
Jan. 12, 2003
Sunday Meeting 5pm EST, East Realm Battle.net
the Discussion Board chat room and DaoC (5:30pm and listed in DaoC
of Gaming, building own web page).
Members (13 of about 136):
Daeron-V, Eonwe-(Valar), Erestor-V, Eru-Valar,
Feanor-V, Finwe-V, Gil-galad-V@Azeroth, Gwaihir-Valar, Huan-Valar,
Maedhros-V@Azeroth, Turgon(V)@Azeroth, Varda-(Valar) (presiding)
Visitor: Gimli_02@Azeroth (reading books and
intends to join)
Discussion Board: Eru until switching to
New members are Lindir (see Jan 11), and Tuvo
(Jan 12) from Dark Age of Camelot.
Thranduil's corrected email is
email@example.com He joined Jan 5.
Tolkien Encyc and Names pages: Eonwe
sent 36 short entries Jan 10, 26 on Jan 11.
Tolkien Encyc: Elrond sent in an article on
"Elladan and Elrohir" for the Elf page.
Games page: Eonwe asked if anyone could help
find a picture of the Two Lamps standing and giving off light. He has
but needs Ormal. He also needs good pictures of Valar besides Melkor
Ulmo of which there are plenty.
EQ: Eru is on the Prexus server. His
are listed on our EverQuesters page if you would like to drop by there.
is the official guild server.
Dark Age of Camelot (DaoC): 5:30 EST the
met to officially form a branch of the Valar Guild on
the most Tolkien-like of the areas offered. Report by Irmo follows:
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Tuvo joined in Dark Age of Camelot (DaoC), recruited by Irmo. His
name was Amnon. He's 26, from Belgium in Europe. He's read the H and
He's played MMORPG Mushes, EQ, Asheron, and AO before DaoC. He helped
establish the new guild branch in DaoC Jan 12.
Yesterday, sunday januari 13, at
5:30 Guild Time (EST), the Valar Guild has been officially founded at
Dark Age of Camelot, on the server Percival, realm Hibernia!
For this joyful occasion the
following members were assembled at the Guild Registrator in Tir Na NoG:
Elatan, Falathar, Gandalf,
Haleth, Irmo, Lindir, Melkor, Orome and Tuvo.
These will now forever be remembered
as the founding fathers of Valar at DaoC!
The occasion brought old friends and
new friends togther, together we toasted many merry chats and hunts to
May the Guild prosper on DaoC as it
has been prosperous in so many virtual worlds since 1997!
Tolkien Chat (bnet):
Turgon recited an original poem. He will be
emailing this one and another for the Tolkien Encyclopedia's Poetry
Varda's topic: What or who is Caradhras? It
seems to be alive. How can this be?
The chat was lively and I had to leave after a
of hours. Here is a part, sentences and areas often abbreviated in my
hand notes. Some of us played Devil's Advocate here and there to keep
Erestor: Trees seem to be alive.
Eru: Need to establish what we mean by it seeming to
alive. Did anything happen that might not be explained as natural?
Varda: Sudden demarcation of snow, timing.
Erestor: Gandalf spoke of Caradhras as entity.
Varda: It had done this before.
Eru: "There are fell voices on the air"
Erestor: Call it the wind.
Eru: 1. Saruman calling down a storm.
storm, Orcs or Trolls casting stones.
3. Mountain is
an earth elemental.
made storm to force them through Moria and face the Balrog.
forced them into Moria to face the Balrog.
Elrond: Or stone giants throwing stones.
Erestor: Legolas listened to the ground in Hollin,
which seemed to speak to him.
Turgon: Thought stone giants were found only far
north of Rivendell.
Eru: Why aren't all mountains alive? Rumor made by
dwarves that it's alive to keep people from crossing it?
Elrond: Elves hear voices in all things.
Turgon: Both Saruman and Caradhras.
Finwe: Manifesting Balrog's will, not Saruman's.
Turgon: Balrog didn't know they were there until
Pippin and the well.
Finwe: Balrog may have known but Orcs didn't.
Elrond: It was Caradhras. In days of old dwarves
made him beautiful, then Orcs ruined him. Angry.
Erestor: His hand has grown long indeed.
Eru: Orcs on the pass working for Saruman wouldn't
necessarily converse with Balrog's troop
Daeron: Doubt orcs on pass
Elrond; No one wants to help Caradhras; Caradhras
won't help anyone.
Erestor: Orcs in mountain, why not on it?
Daeron: If Orcs above, company would know.
Eru: If too far above, Sting and Glamdring wouldn't
Turgon: Caradhras having grudge against dwarves
seems weird though. meaning Khazad-dum existed in First Age.
Elrond: Not grudge against dwarves but all people.
Daeron: If orcs so far above not even an elf could
see, how could orcs see Fellowship?
Erestor: Aragorn said when sun goes down, hills
would be alive with orcs. Why not mountain too?
Turgon: Natural storm enhanced by Saruman.
Eru: Moria is actually under the Silvertine, not the
(Caradhras). pass between the two mountains, Redhorn to the north.
Elrond: But why would Saruman halt? Storm stopped
but clouds hung with threat.
Daeron: Maybe casting storm takes a lot of energy.
Elrond: Saruman would've killed them and taken Ring.
Eru: Saruman wanted them to go for the Gap of Rohan.
Turgon: Might be showing will of the Valar. Maybe
Saruman didn't want to get his feet cold.
Elrond: Force them back. If didn't make it, orcs
find bodies. If they did, conveniently go through Moria.
Elrond: How did Balrog get deep and trapped? What is
down there for? (Digression begins, Silmarillion tale of Melkor's fall,
fleeing Thangorodrim, Balrog and nameless evils hid here.)
Eonwe: Melkor dug deep, could've fled and let wrack
of Thangorodrim cover tracks.
Elrond: Balrog could've used shadow as disguise.
Erestor: may have been trapped with the changing of
Eru: TA 1980 dwarves uncovered deep chasm while
for mithril. Sound could have traveled and alerted dormant Balrog. No
to be stealthy. Might not have appeared immediately.
Digressed into talk about movie treatment of
Jan. 11, 2003
Eonwe added more names or versions to the Names page, most of which
were also included in the Encyclopedia:
Dwarves: Fundin, Narvi,
Floi, Frar, Loni, Nali
Banks, Brockhouse, Longholes, Mugwort, Puddifoot, Sandheaver, Tunnelly
Mankind: Bain, Brand,
Grimbeorn, Meneldil, Ohtar, Valandil, Witch-King/Morgul-Lord
Appledore, Goatleaf, Heathertoes, Rushlight, Thistlewool
Bombadil/Forn/Orald. Caradhras might be a possible Maia
name, could be discussed.
Eru emailed. He says he plays on Prexus server
where his real
life friends play and where he was before the guild got into Zebuxoruk.
characters are now listed on the EverQuester Member Page.
Welcome to the Valar Guild!
Lindir is the first person to be recruited into the guild from outside
setting the precedent for many more to come. Members who don't have
are welcome to come to the Discussion Board for chats during the
meeting where Eonwe keeps a double presence. Irmo tells us a bit about
Invited by Gandalf/Olorinv on DaoC,
tested by Irmo/Yrma Loriena. He was Oloriin on DaoC. His main character
in the Guild on DaoC will be Raime, the ranger. He is 31 years old,
lives Oklahoma USA, used to play UO and EQ. He has read LOTR and is
committed to starting on the Silmarillion and the Histories.
Dark Age of Camelot: STARTING OFFICIAL
GUILD! Be sure to come help the start-up if you're on DaoC!
Percival/Hibernia. You can drop into bnet to say hi briefly for
regular meeting at 5pm EST, then skip over to DaoC before 5:30pm EST.
Use your regular guild name with a v on the end,. For instance, Orome
would use Oromev. Details below.
DaoC Letter from Irmo fka Salmar:
First of all, a warm welcome to
Lindir, who has joined the Valarguild and will be joining us at Valar
on Perc/Hib. His main character will be Raime the Ranger.
Then to Amnon, we all wish you a safe
journey. Enjoy your trip to the other end of the world, and may your
path be clear and protected. Return to us healthy and well!
Establishing Valar on
Percival/Hibernia will be tomorrow, sunday 11th, 5:30 PM EST as
planned. This is 23:30 PM for our NW-European members. We will be
assembled at the Guild Registrar in Tir Na Nog. You are kindly
requested to move your characters there before this time in time.
Thanks for your feedback on our Code
of Foundation. I have edited your comments into the text, which is now
the following. (Nothing decided yet, so throw me your Boo's and Cheers,
1. The Valar Guild
The Valar Guild was established on
october 4, 1997, and is a worldwide interactive community of Tolkien
fans, students and scholars. Membership has been steady around 150
members. We have our web site at http://www.valarguild.org,
with an interactive Tolkien Encyclopedia. Many of our members come
together to play online games, where we advocate mutual friendship,
comraderie and honorable behaviour. Originally founded as a B.net
community - specifially Diablo 1/2/LoD - the Valar Guild has been
spreading over many online games. On januari 11, 2003 the Valar Guild
is officially established in the world of Dark Age Of Camelot, on
server Percival, realm Hibernia.
2. Who we
are on DaoC
We are a
group of friends who do not strive to be the strongest or the biggest
or the most powerful on DaoC. We share an interest in the world of
Tolkien, not only his literature, but also and especially his
definition of honour and light. We advocate altruism and
courteousness and chivalry.
language is unaceptable. Some of us like to fully role-play, others
have their own fine ways of expressing themselves. But we all chose a
roleplaying server for good reasons.
is not supported by our Guild. We strive to group with
players of comparable levels, if you cannot contribute to the
performance of the group than you should not be in it. Put otherwise,
it is unlikely we will have players grouping being "grey" or "purple""
friends, especially Guildfriends, we give and exchange gifts
without looking at reciprocity. We seek always to help eachother. Our
greatest joy is bringing joy to eachother.
Trading betwen friends means that in
principle only the costs of production - including material loss
and invested time - will be asked.
players unknown to us, trading will mean asking for reasonable
current prices, but we will not be a merchandising Guild.
2. How to
invite new members.
coming from the motherguild is - of course - very welcome. New members
we will only invite for good reasons. We will invite
players who strike us as very honorable and whom we have had great
pleasure hunting or speaking with. We will never offer money to enlarge
our community. We will only seek alliances with Guilds who share the
principles of our Code.
has the tradition of asking aspirant new members 5 simple
questions ("entree test") to ascertain that they have at any time
read The Lord of The Rings.
With the above in mind, any member is
free to invite a player into the Guild. Entree tests however can only
be given by members who have the position of Maia or Vala within the
Valarguild. See http://www.valarguild.org/varda/guild/recruit.html
Meetings will be held regularly in
Guild chat. Attendance of these meeting is voluntary. For the future we will seek a method of occasionally
combining meetings with the Motherguild meetings, especially for
discussing Tolkien topics.
Elatan are willing to start as Guildmasters to get the Guild on its
feet, with Irmo responsible for organising the Guild in general, Elatan
as his back-up and being a DaoC - especially RvR - expert.
members will be asked to choose one of the Tolkien names that are
available to new members (see our names page, http://httpd.chello.nl/d.berkhout/ for
member - new or old - is required to have or to make a character with
his chosen Tolkien name within the Guild, ending with the extension of
v or V for Valar. Within the motherguild he or she will primarilly be
known under that name. How much and how often (s)he will play that
character - or any character at all for that matter - is solely his or
her business. There can be no question of a minimum time investment and
if members like to play other characters than their Guild ones - even
in other Guilds -, or on other realms, then they are completely free to
are free to choose other names for characters at will, and to tag them
as Valar. Members are free to roleplay within the Valar Guild whomever
they want, as long as the character is honourable and has an honourable
name. It is not advocated to use other Tolkien names - t.i. not related
to our primary character name - for Valar Guild alternates, for those
names could be names that other (even future) Guildmembers consider
their own. This could obviously cause confusion.
Hoping to see you all tomorrow, 5:30
PM EST, in Tir Na Nog,
Jan. 10, 2003
Eonwe's been re-reading and came up with 36 short, new goodies for us
from the Fellowship for the Names page and the Encyc:
Adelard Took, Angelica Baggins, "Blanco" (and "Marcho") first settlers;
Twofoot, Dora Baggins, Esmerelda Brandybuck, Everard Took, Folco
Fredegar (Fatty) Bolger, Gorbadoc Brandybuck, Gorhendad Oldbuck, Hal,
Hugo Bracegirdle, Lotho, Melilot Brandybuck, Milo Burrows, Mrs.
Mugwort family, Noakes, Nob, Odo Proudfoot, Otho, Rory Brandybuck,
Proudfoot, Ted Sandyman,
Mankind (7): "Barahir",
grandson of Faramir II; "Bill Ferny", "Bob" the stablehand, "Findegil",
the king's writer; " Harry" the gatekeeper,
Merry's ponies, Fatty Lumpkin
Jan. 6, 2003
Encyclopedia: "Elladan and Elrohir", new article by
Elrond-(V). Listed under Elves/Elrohir.
Thranduil, we need a correction on your
email address. Please email Varda at firstname.lastname@example.org. Thanks!
Letter from Menelvagor on Jan 1:
The vertigo site is down for the time being cause the project is on hold. I
unfortunately have not had access to the internet for the last four months
due to the costs of setup and my living arrangements in San Francisco.
However I along with my new buds have moved out into a fantastic 3 bedroom
apartment in downtown san fran and they are fortunately avid gamers. When i
return to my apartment on the 17th at which my new dsl should be installed
our hope is to begin playing diablo2 on my return. A note coming this spring
i may be a part time employee at a game development company upon review of
my portfolio i will keep you posted upon my return to battle.net. The last
four months have been hectic and crazed but I think things are finally all
put together so that i can do some online gaming. AND GOOD LORD DID U SEE
TWO TOWERS? BEST PICTURE BLAST IT.
Anyway if i get any free time to myself (pshht right!)i plan on trying to
launch my own website this spring showing my continuing work on my own
projects. If u can offer a chat client that i can use to get on battle.net
this sunday id greatly appreciate it cause they don't seem to exist anymore
(Im in CHicago right now and dont have access to any blizzard games). Well
back to modeling and drawing.
Menelvagor A.K.A. Kingfisher
Jan. 5, 2002
Sunday Meeting 5pm EST East Realm, bnet channel Clan
ValarGuild, some on Discussion Board also
Members: Alatar, Aragorn-V@Azeroth,
Draugluin, Elrond, Eonwe/Fionwe, Erestor, FarmerMaggot,
Gandalf/Stormcrow, Gwaihir, Irmo, Khamul, Oropher, Thorondor,
Thror, Turgon, Varda (presiding)
Later: Bombur, Gil-galad
Visitors: *randomperson (joined after
meeting as Thranduil-V!), *EFH-HellWarrior (Gwaihir's friend)
Discussion Board: MerryPippin, Tolkien
member, visited with Eonwe
Beregond is now using a military
service for meetings and gaming, but has to get up early in the
so don't be keeping him up too late!
Khamul is back after being off since
Christmas, having had a birthday so that he is now 15!
Gil-galad is having comp problems when
trying to play WC3, keeps crashing.
Dark Age of Camelot:
Gandalf reported that he's been
for five days now. He said the best part was meeting old guild buddies
hasn't seen for a while. He played with Melkor, Haleth, Haleth's new
and Irmo. The second best part is the graphics. He says guilds and
are a big thing there. He also says the learning curve is very steep
there are lots of commands, guild buddies being a big help there or he
have been tempted to quit. Irmo told of the partying they had done
including the above list.
We started off talking about eagles for a
Varda's topic: What were the rangers like? We
from the little bits of information scattered around the books, the
being quite lively.
Maiar test: Thror tested with Eonwe, Irmo,
Varda and is now the Maia Huan! He and Bombur went right out into WC3
recoup the 200 human wins he dropped with the Thror name, which are
immortalized temporarily here. :) Congrats!!
Entry test: Welcome to the Valar Guild, Thranduil-(V)!
*randomperson was scouted by Feanor and met Kalmo at that time. His
after the meeting, the honor done by Thorondor. His favorite character
Thranduil, so he was lucky that the name was free! He's 15, living in
USA, EST. His email is said to be email@example.com, but isn't
"recipient isn't recognized". [Correction to email Jan 13, 2003: firstname.lastname@example.org]
He's read the H, LotR, and Sil. His AIM name is blizzard370. He was in
a StarCraft/BroodWar suit, so we
presume he plays BW.
Funny detail: report from Irmo: Histoire
repete: :) . I who was once Huan co-tested Thror who became Huan;
who was once Thranduil tested randomperson who became Thranduil
Jan. 1, 2003
Happy New Year!!
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